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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 6:05pm On May 17, 2017
OtemAtum:
there has never been any real life miracle videos. Whenever something miraculous would happen, nobody would be ready for it. It happens so unexpectedly that you won't even have imagined it could.

WRONG !

If you want to know how miracle works read the Bible .

Matthew 9:27-30
27 And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou Son of David, have mercy on us. 28 And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. 29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you. 30 And their eyes were opened; and Jesus straitly charged them, saying, See that no man know it.

Matthew 12:13
13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.


If this were captured by camera you would call it acted
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by kevoh(m): 6:08pm On May 17, 2017
I am not watching any silly video jare. It's Sir Joe na? grin grin Sir Joe's miracle claims on nairaland and being busted weeks after on nairaland are 5 and 6. tongue anyone remember the miracle case that was busted by one Sirjohn, what about the Kenyan28 lady....abegiii

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by hahn(m): 6:13pm On May 17, 2017
kevoh:
I am not watching any silly video jare. It's Sir Joe na? grin grin Sir Joe's miracle claims on nairaland and being busted weeks after on nairaland are 5 and 6. tongue

That miracle is real bro. I dey tell you

You need to watch the video
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Nobody: 6:13pm On May 17, 2017
spacetacular:


I beg to differ sir. People with mental disorders such as Hysteria, schizophrenia,autism spectrum disorder or even bipolar disorder are not always violent. They also experience mood swings but generally receive antidepressants such as Zoloft as a safe guard for the one mentally ill and not due to constant violent behaviour or a perceived danger to others.

One of the most misleading assumptions out there is that people with mental conditions are dangerous and violent. This is not true. I think you watch too many movies and follow what is depicted in the movies about people with mental illness.

The face of mental illness can be the same as any other. It doesn’t make people look or behave in any way we are guaranteed to notice or perceive as abnormal. However in this case the simple chaffing on his wrists and waist and dark rings around his wrists and ankles plus the lacerations can only come about from prolonged periods of being bound using something very uncomfortable like a chain which has uneven links and loops. If he was bound with a rope you would only see dark rings but not chaffing. Lacerations of that nature in those regions from being bound is often caused by attempted struggle not once or twice but often.

My focus has been on his injuries and if they were real or not and i can very well say that they are real. Regarding his mental state without a proper check i cannot say but the physical signs were there in the video however if i combine that with his being bound for lengthy periods as i already observed then i can say he most likely was mentally ill.

Thank you for your comments. Truth be told my comments about the gentleman’s composure in church were slightly tongue-in-cheek but the ever so slightly serious aspect of my comment was to demonstrate how easy it is to lead an observer down a chosen path. Of course I am aware of various aspects of mental illness evidently not as much as you are, but aware nonetheless.

The facts are there is no certifiable evidence of the man’s lunacy and injuries from bondage chains in themselves do not constitute evidence as such, you refer to the lacerations, fine, going purely by some of the darkish marks around some of these lacerations it appears there has been some healing and then fresher lacerations and I would agree with you it seems the guy had been bound up for quite a while.

Now, the producers of the video are very careful not to disclose when the guy arrived in Nigeria from Ghana all we can say is that he seems to have arrived fairly recently to deal with a bereavement, and then his evil kinsmen “got him” we do not know of his antecedents prior to his arrival, it would seem to me from the coloration of his skin that some of his injuries pre-date his arrival in the country, in my opinion, if so, why?

During the so-called healing, the pastor calls five or so witnesses apparently from different parts of the country who testify variously that the man is “terrible”, “chronically mad” “e.t.c, so, clearly he was expected. The pronouncements by those gentlemen constitute the only diagnosis of non compos mentis we have in the entire charade. I could be wrong but they did not seem like medical practitioners to me.

The pastor tries to give the impression he is giving a revelation by asking the lunatics family about "Ghana" whereupon they all chorus "Yes", but we know the pastor is lying, we know this because he has already arranged for five stooges to come in from various parts of the country to witness the charade and bear his testimony, why?

The man is lifted in his chair and placed on the magic mat whereupon the chains being unlocked he jumps up and pronounces himself “fine” and he is apparently healed, don’t you see the absurdity?

You see, in high magic the illusion takes place in two stages, first the magician declares the implausibility of what he is about to do and then you can be sure that his next actions are a lie. He can even begin with the lie and then declare the manifestation of his implausibility. Either way, it is a sham.

The diversion here is to draw attention to the man’s preconceived injuries and use them to substantiate lunacy and to that effect he brought in the five “stooges” to validate his charade.

A miracle did indeed take place that day, he emptied the pockets of his congregants.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by kevoh(m): 6:14pm On May 17, 2017
hahn:


That miracle is real bro. I dey tell you

You need to watch the video
I rather use my MB to download DIY books. cool Some illusions/magic tricks have been known to have been planned years before the day of execution.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by hahn(m): 6:15pm On May 17, 2017
Sarassin:


A miracle did indeed take place that day, he emptied the pockets of his congregants.

cheesy grin
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by hahn(m): 6:16pm On May 17, 2017
kevoh:

I rather use my MB to download DIY books. cool

Waste an mb today cheesy grin
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by kevoh(m): 6:19pm On May 17, 2017
hahn:


Waste an mb today cheesy grin
Oya na, make I watch am. cool
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by akintom(m): 6:35pm On May 17, 2017
Joagbaje:


And who's fault is that? It depends on faith Even not everyone got healed even under jesus.
Your shameful and stale song of lack of faith, comes round again.

But because you folks are suffering from chronic self contradictions, i ask you, your fabled healing at the beautiful gate, did the lame folk have faith?

The charade of Oyakhilome and his fellow con artists, being packaged today, is just the same abracadabra that was weaved into the fictional story of Jesus.




Joagbaje:

Did they claim there are no miracles there?
Of course, the Nollywood style of miracles occurred.



Joagbaje:

Your clients were bribing to be in the front seat .if the miracles were fake why would they want to be in front .
The sick folks are at their most depressive and psychologically pliable state. The very reason they will seek out liars like you and your prophets.

They did all that because, the fake videos and unverifiable stories of make believe miracles, had primed them, to desperation.

The fact that you can't agree to a public test, of this your powerful God, renders all your bragging here balloonic.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by spacetacular(f): 6:50pm On May 17, 2017
In my line of work i witness miracles happen a lot. Impossible saves and all. Can those criticizing this kindly look at these videos and give me their honest opinions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI-bQhfRUQk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkTx6AxHB-Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JLHnRX1WE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQJjUb_kD4
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by CatfishBilly: 6:53pm On May 17, 2017
I'll pass on this one, before the medics and paramedics come for my head. It's shameful that scientists are lending credence to this charade. Whatever happened to evidence based medicine?
Mental slavery at its finest.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 6:54pm On May 17, 2017
Joagbaje:


WRONG !

If you want to know how miracle works read the Bible .

Matthew 9:27-30
27 And when Jesus departed thence, two blind men followed him, crying, and saying, Thou Son of David, have mercy on us. 28 And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. 29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you. 30 And their eyes were opened; and Jesus straitly charged them, saying, See that no man know it.

Matthew 12:13
13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.


If this were captured by camera you would call it acted
I am not talking about storybook miracles.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by spacetacular(f): 6:57pm On May 17, 2017
CatfishBilly:
I'll pass on this one, before the medics and paramedics come for my head. It's shameful that scientists are lending credence to this charade. Whatever happened to evidence based medicine?
Mental slavery at its finest.

I suggest you take a look at the first video out of the 4 i posted. It would interest you.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by akintom(m): 6:58pm On May 17, 2017
CatfishBilly:
I'll pass on this one, before the medics and paramedics come for my head. It's shameful that scientists are lending credence to this charade. Whatever happened to evidence based medicine?
Mental slavery at its finest.

I particularly wondered why you went that long yesterday, with a paramedic, who is obviously superficial, as far as basic medical science is concerned, talk less about clinical science.

I will not be surprised, if this crusading paramedic, turns out a mere charlatan.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by spacetacular(f): 7:12pm On May 17, 2017
akintom:


I particularly wondered why you went that long yesterday, with a paramedic, who is obviously superficial, as far as basic medical science is concerned, talk less about clinical science.

I will not be surprised, if this crusading paramedic, turns out a mere charlatan.


So you tag me as being superficial simply because i hold a contrary more authentic experience based opinion from yours? Thank you for noticing me at least. Its not my fault you have a complex.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Topgainer: 7:54pm On May 17, 2017
spacetacular:


So you tag me as being superficial simply because i hold a contrary more authentic experience based opinion from yours? Thank you for noticing me at least. Its not my fault you have a complex.
You are not superficial, my dear. Wrong choice of words Mr Akintom.
I like your expressions and I can attest your mental capacity is above average regardless of what you are. There's dearth of graduate ladies whose expressions in words or writing give reflections that they studied something at school aside looking for sugar 'dandies', boyfriends, manfriends and makeupology.
I understand that you set out to prove there were actual injuries and healing processes as seen on the clip therefore, validating the meniac claims. But you have gone further to debate that other miracles do happen to buttress that the Prophet Jerry and the mad man clip.
My simple advice for you, don't make yourself an instrument in the hand of Nigeria Stage Prophets for the validation of their plots. That display as real as it may seem (I believe a transformation happened there) can be scripted.

There are no better actors and actresses anywhere in the world than Nigerian Superstar Prophets they put up a script, get the best hands train them on what to say and how to say it, fund it to the latter, bring up the best equipments in digital filming and editing, some employ expatriates who man the studios and ensure the best picture packages for the audience all to the glory of gods and to the applause/veneration of the man of gods. You may not believe that some of them have digital equipments that 3 billion naira can't buy at today's exchange rate like one Church at Oregun.

Don't mistake me for some unbeliever, I don't accept that some other mediators in the forms of Nigerian Prophets and man of gods came after Christ as being propagated by some dubious Pentecostal movements. I am strongly against that because I believe in the one Priesthood (I Peter 2:5,9. Rev1:6) for all. Those nonsense ended with Moses, the reinvention by talknado prophets is most unfortunate and shameful. That in itself is the genesis of all forms of charade on Church stage and the quest for members.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by adepeter26(m): 8:15pm On May 17, 2017
CatfishBilly:
I'll pass on this one, before the medics and paramedics come for my head. It's shameful that scientists are lending credence to this charade. Whatever happened to evidence based medicine?
Mental slavery at its finest.
LOl
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by adepeter26(m): 8:19pm On May 17, 2017
spacetacular:
In my line of work i witness miracles happen a lot. Impossible saves and all. Can those criticizing this kindly look at these videos and give me their hones opinions
Lol.... Miracles You say? I bet all this said miracles of yours are because you can't comprehend what's caused them....

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by spacetacular(f): 8:45pm On May 17, 2017
adepeter26:

Lol.... Miracles You say? I bet all this said miracles of yours are because you can't comprehend what's caused them....

Sir, the ability to comprehend and assess medical issues is part of my EMT training. When i am unable to comprehend something which was supposed to have a medical explanation yet doesn't then simply put, it defies medical explanation so comprehension is out of the question.

Medical Mysteries line up whole shelves in hospitals and people study and restudy them in an attempt to make sense of it all but still cannot because it runs against all that medicine dictates.

I posted a few videos earlier why not try watching number 1, 2 and 3 or even all 4 and then you decide on your personal view of comprehension and your sole right to it.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Ishilove: 8:50pm On May 17, 2017
IdeyFindWife:
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And haven't they turned the thing into a "cult of science" already where every halfwit with a skewed perspective on life and reality gets to parrot borrowed thoughts without any new originality of philosophy, logic or astrophysics.

I don't know how they sleep at night dismissing so much just to uphold unproven conjectures.
.
E taya person

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 8:58pm On May 17, 2017
OtemAtum:
I am not talking about storybook miracles.

Then keep off miracle matters . It will be folly to you

1 Corinthians 2:14
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by michaelwestern(m): 9:03pm On May 17, 2017
spacetacular:
In my line of work i witness miracles happen a lot. Impossible saves and all. Can those criticizing this kindly look at these videos and give me their honest opinions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI-bQhfRUQk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkTx6AxHB-Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JLHnRX1WE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQJjUb_kD4




How come the so called mental slaves are more successful than the free ones.

Or do you think miracles only happen in Africa? Do you know how many miracles happen in the United States alone every year?
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 9:05pm On May 17, 2017
spacetacular:
In my line of work i witness miracles happen a lot. Impossible saves and all. Can those criticizing this kindly look at these videos and give me their honest opinions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI-bQhfRUQk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkTx6AxHB-Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JLHnRX1WE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQJjUb_kD4


this is beautiful
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 9:28pm On May 17, 2017
felixomor:

Sorry
You have not provided proof that u had watched it
I don't believe u. because u took screenshots and fast forwarded
I still insist that you lied

Yes he lied . Just so much in a haste to oppose God

Proverbs 18:13 (AMP)
13 He who answers a matter before he hears the facts—it is folly and shame to him.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by spacetacular(f): 9:31pm On May 17, 2017
michaelwestern:




How come the so called mental slaves are more successful than the free ones.

Or do you think miracles only happen in Africa? Do you know how many miracles happen in the United States alone every year?


I do not know how to respond to your comment or if it was even meant to be directed at me. I have never mentioned Africa or the west in any of my comments so how you chose to make a sudden comparison leaves me befuddled. I am in England by the way. I hope that helps in your comparison.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by CatfishBilly: 9:35pm On May 17, 2017
spacetacular:


I suggest you take a look at the first video out of the 4 i posted. It would interest you.
I watched the first video. The only one that comes close to a miracle is the one of the baby. Pulling people out of burning cars isn't a miracle, it's people being proactive. They should have just prayed and watch them burn to death.
Waking up from coma is nothing new all in medical journals.
Coding for 45 minutes, we already covered that, same with the black old man.
Stop calling them mysteries and miracles, pick up books, someone must have captured it happening more than once and offered an explanation.
If everyone called every little a miracle/mystery I'm sure we won't have come up with our "evidence based medicine" modalities.
Let me give you an example, people who reared cows were found to be immune to smallpox. If the rest of the world was just small minded and chalked it up to mystery/miracle, smallpox would still be killing millions of people till today. But, no, it led them to the development of a vaccine.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by Joagbaje(m): 9:37pm On May 17, 2017
akintom:

Your shameful and stale song of lack of faith, comes round again.

When you people have criticized miracles you are blaming God now for not receiving . Make Una keep paying for front seat . Repent first . And humble yourself
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by CatfishBilly: 9:41pm On May 17, 2017
akintom:


I particularly wondered why you went that long yesterday, with a paramedic, who is obviously superficial, as far as basic medical science is concerned, talk less about clinical science.

I will not be surprised, if this crusading paramedic, turns out a mere charlatan.

I have no issue with anyone, no matter their profession in the medical world, I'm happy to engage anyone, but the outburst to the simple question was just something I didn't expect from her. It's cool though. Learnt my lessons.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by OtemAtum: 9:54pm On May 17, 2017
Joagbaje:


Then keep off miracle matters . It will be folly to you

1 Corinthians 2:14
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
TAKE this too
DOCTUFOS: Ikilo 3:1
Chapter Three
1. Now know this early before you fall into errors; the house of healing is the hospital. The house of worshipping a god is the temple. Therefore do not go to the temple to seek healing, as you will not also go to the hospital to worship a god.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by spacetacular(f): 10:04pm On May 17, 2017
CatfishBilly:

I watched the first video. The only one that comes close to a miracle is the one of the baby. Pulling people out of burning cars isn't a miracle, it's people being proactive. They should have just prayed and watch them burn to death.
Waking up from coma is nothing new all in medical journals.
Coding for 45 minutes, we already covered that, same with the black old man.
Stop calling them mysteries and miracles, pick up books, someone must have captured it happening more than once and offered an explanation.
If everyone called every little a miracle/mystery I'm sure we won't have come up with our "evidence based medicine" modalities.
Let me give you an example, people who reared cows were found to be immune to smallpox. If the rest of the world was just small minded and chalked it up to mystery/miracle, smallpox would still be killing millions of people till today. But, no, it led them to the development of a vaccine.

As suspected i knew you would look for wriggle space. I asked you to watch it so you would know that your so called medical journals containing 38 cases cannot hold a light to the hundreds of unrecorded autoresuscitations that occur worldwide and go unrecorded. No single medical practitioner in any part of the world large or small who can explain it. It is an impossible medical occurrence. We are not talking about diseases sir we are talking about the dead coming back spontaneously without any medical assistance at the time of revival.

Regarding the others you term as people being proactive, know that God uses people to carry out his purpose. Man has the ability to act but in such situations as emergencies which seems like all hope is lost, they act under Gods unseen and sometimes unrealized guidance. They only realize it after everything has ended and they begin to playback the entire scenario. I have seen this ever so often.

Was the voice the officers heard from the car pulled from the river imagined? The woman was long dead but all the officers heard the same voice shouting out the same thing from inside the sunken, damaged car. Did they all imagine the same thing? in the other video was the man in Priestly apparel who appeared on the scene of the car crash out of nowhere to assist and anoint and pray for the trapped young lady also imagined? Especially since they all heard him and interacted with him and saw him and heard him say their tools could now work and moments later a more equipped fire truck arrived but immediately after she was rescued he was nowhere to be found and all 15 churches in that area had no record of anyone like that. Neither did this man appear on over 70 pictures taken during the entire rescue of which he was part of yet the police men, the fire rescue crew all said he was there.

Mysteries exist and they often come to us in form of miracles. Unable to be explained yet real.

My team has been called to a crash site with a mother and her 2 kids being the occupants of the vehicle. The mother and one of the daughters were unconscious and still in the car. We got them out and strapped down ready to be transported when a man came out from the woods in front of us pointed into a line of trees and said we should save his daughter. We thought it was another incident and Mattie went downhill into the line of trees and there was this 13yr old girl with a broken leg and fractured collar bone but conscious. she said her mom and sister were in an accident and she was thrown from the vehicle downhill and we did not know this. We thought the vehicle only had the woman and 1 daughter and since both were unconscious we couldnt get any further info from them.

Mattie called for me and as i was going downhill another team of paramedics arrived and they assisted in bringing her up but when we got back up to the road the man who yelled save my daughter was gone. We later learned that the father of the girls died 4 months prior to this incident and with the picture we were shown we identified him as the same man who told us to save his daughter. We had to tell the doctors what happened when we dropped them off and they told the woman when she came to thats how we got the follow up information.
Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by akintom(m): 10:04pm On May 17, 2017
spacetacular:


So you tag me as being superficial simply because i hold a contrary more authentic experience based opinion from yours? Thank you for noticing me at least. Its not my fault you have a complex.
You know what complex is?

*you shoving your claimed qualification around here
*you trumpeting egoistic "more authentic experience based opinion"
*you misconstruing my quoting you, as finding your gist weighty.

Your superficiality, is betrayed by your hypersensitivity for awe, rather than curiosity.

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Re: Prophet Jeremiah healed Known Mad Man On Live TV. by spacetacular(f): 10:13pm On May 17, 2017
akintom:

You know what complex is?

*you shoving your claimed qualification around here
*you trumpeting egoistic "more authentic experience based opinion"
*you misconstruing my quoting you, as finding your gist weighty.

Your superficiality, is betrayed by your hypersensitivity for awe, rather than curiosity.

In a nutshell, you have a complex.

If my personal opinion based on experience makes you feel i am massaging my ego then for sure you have a complex.

Your quoting me in the first instance shows you found my comment weighty otherwise you would have looked the other way but you couldnt and you know why? Complex.

Your negativity and rude disposition can be likened to a tantrum throwing baby but in your case its a tantrum throwing adult with a complex.

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