ELECTCHIBU:
You should get wise and know it that for giving a man of God such horrible name, you won't go free, you must pay for it. And you think he can scam a church of over 1 million.

Nukilia:


There is nothing deceptive about the word "We"..Leadership is team work.
When you say "toiling" that means fruitless effort; the people are not toiling but labouring in grace. Show me someone in the church who's labouring in grace and I will tell you his/her blessings.
He doesn't need to convince people to donate money, the people are moved by what God is doing in their lives and they support the work of the ministry.
Show me someone who has emptied his bank account for the sake of the gospel and has not been blessed in return.
The church belongs to God and his trusted servant is doing the job so well.
Shalom

Nukilia:

Ha ha @ topgainer, where did you hear all these? Stop listening to hearsay, have a firsthand experience and your life will forever be blessed.

Nukilia:


You dont have to be impressed @ all. The last time I checked, the church has been able to cater for students whose hope would have been dashed by the corrupt political system in this country. The last time I checked, the people teaching in their universities are getting paid.

Let's demand accountability from the politicians looting our resources without doing anything for the people.

Shalom

Statsocial:

They do offer scholarships

feelgoodInc:

tithing is not money

Topgainer:

Yes they are
They know what they worship and my interactions with people of such assemblies show that holy living is the least considerations in their warped minds. Fellowship is more about money and testimonies of money. Give money, take money or the promise of miracle money. Sometimes I wonder the Spirit behind those movements because that Spirit has little emphasis on the Salvation that Jesus bought for us rather its focus is on exaltation of Money in every meeting. The meaning of Salvation has been completely changed under this dispensation of 'Churches'. But they can't mock God, he can cut them down while they are busy manipulating the New Testaments and altering portions of the Bible, planning and allocating financial harvests.

Nodogragra4me:



Ungullible soul what is your networth? Hope you are richer than Dangote ekpa... you get any title document Tom your name anywhere in the world

Malakh:
ode! yr much aint gonna be worth shiit once IMF,World Bank,B.I.S in done with the nations, John the Revelator already told you the Beast(Gentiles) makes everyman to receive the mark,name and number, without it you cant buy or sell, it's apparent that money of today will be rendered worthless.For your info all you pagan pastors, xtianity and islam will be done away with,it's the war between these two largest pagan religions that triggers world war 3 and brings about white man worship who says he is God in Jerusalem Rev 13:6,2 Thes 2:4-, [s]no wonder they've given you white jesus to condition your mind that your saviour is a white boy with blue eyes, whom we know to be farg Ceasar Borgia[/s]

Jebosh:
I claim it,I will be richer than Paris club

eleojo23:



Why do people always have problem with Christians prospering?
People shouldn't be because even the bible says Christians will lend to nations. The underlining issue is that, Christ's message was centred on charity. How well are this so called Christians given back "showing the act of charity". A close look at their lifestyle suggest that their mind are on the financial aspects, church building, schools, hospitals which are even accessed by selected persons. The same reason father secure the position for wife, wife to son, etc. It is becoming a family business.

Well, whatever you call it, the fact is, Christians/christian organisations are going to prosper beyond what people have ever seen and many will be surprised.
Just watch out.
No doubt about that but who controls what. And from whom will the fund be sourced " you". Church growth is good but church development is better. The growth only affect structures, the owners, like Nigeria. But development affect the members who truly are the church. While you celebrate the church expansion and success as a member. The pastors are busy enjoying the wealth and securing it for their family. God help us all.

Statsocial:
I am kind of disputing the figure Mr Leke gave for Canaancity though. The last I heard of it. It was a 1.6 billion USD project that should be around 500 billion naira.

Also both Calabar university and Abuja one are being built at the same time. I really cant wait to see the Abuja one. I know it would be super grand since it is being built on request of FG.

In all the Federal government needs to learn from these mega churches what administration is. You can argue about this being money of the poor all you want but you cant take away the good administration that exist in indigenous Nigerian churches. Also I doubt "only poor" made this church this wealthy.


*And for all of u complaining I hope you know that the wealthiest Organization in the world is d catholic church-which is wealthier than the first five corporations in the world put together. The Church was ordained for wealth!

Statsocial:


http://churchgistinfo..com.ng/2017/05/bombshell-we-will-soon-be-richer-than.html?m=1

Statsocial:

Really? I am sure the place is quite big. Yeah living faith seem to prefer to fence their befor completion.

sanpipita:


I don't have any of the above mentioned but I'm smarter than allowing a fellow human who calls himself Daddy GO deceive me, IMF ni Paris club kor

Malakh:
ode! yr much aint gonna be worth shiit once IMF,World Bank,B.I.S in done with the nations, John the Revelator already told you the Beast(Gentiles) makes everyman to receive the mark,name and number, without it you cant buy or sell, it's apparent that money of today will be rendered worthless.For your info all you pagan pastors, xtianity and islam will be done away with,it's the war between these two largest pagan religions that triggers world war 3 and brings about white man worship who says he is God in Jerusalem Rev 13:6,2 Thes 2:4-, no wonder they've given you white jesus to condition your mind that your saviour is a white boy with blue eyes, whom we know to be farg Ceasar Borgia

Nodogragra4me:



Yeah it is along the Tinapa road. We had issues with the community when they came to ask for money and thy were referred to the state government. ..you know winners have a policy against any form of bribery

felixomor:
Wow, great
I need to hear about more projects like this.

alignacademy:


This is not a contest about "knowing Scripture better than the average winner"

What would you say about billionaire atheists? How is their "spirit" linked to their wealth?

Look, making money isn't as spooky as we make it in this part of the world.

If you can SELL a needed product or service, you will make money, regardless of your affiliation

But then again, you're free to make up your mind anyhow you choose.

It's another thing altogether to quote Scriptures out of context to give the impression that GOD only blesses people who "sow" their money in a particular enterprise.

Nodogragra4me:


Your smartness is very local for it is unprofitable to you and yours..... I allowed him deceive me to the point where I could afford to marry within three years of joining the commission , acquire my own property for millions and feed my family without making a prayer point out of it ..... you are not even a quality customer of your bank but in I go to first bank and I am taken into a cozy room reserve for gold customer and they send somebody to run my errand while I sip cold drink .....it was not like that until I left the Catholic birch to pursue God rather than religion .........I am a fool for the winners commission for life .... Have you ever seen a gold member ATM card, do you have your name and surname printed on any? So what is the use of your smartness

Topgainer:


Your fallacious (show me this or that) views are not original at all. You only spoke what you were thought to say. Plan to store up money like IMF is part up the gospel that people should empty bank account for ? Toiling or labouring is common to the people who are coerced to give to the gods of Canaan. I am not trashing out any semantics with you.
Convincing and Coercing people to give is what I have seen Oyedepo do times without number with a promise that he carries the mediatory abilities to force God to return the money given out.
I insist that the 'We' used there should not mean that Winners belong to all its partners. I don't agree with you that it belongs to God, the registered trustees are not 'all members' or Almighty God. Call a spade a spade.
You don't have a claim even to a pencil in that complex. But the Bishop David Senior, David Junior and the other members of the family have a legal claim to everything in that complex. If you buy a house in that estate, your restrictions will so stare you on the face that you will know it is only partially yours. The Bishop, knowing his temperament can eject you anytime he feels like. He may refund you even if he does not you can't win him in court with the number of Senior Advocates representing him in cases he has with people.

Sorry dear, I don't believe in the mediatory roles of Bishop Oyedepo. I have disputed some of his methods and his version of Christianity in some of my topics on this forum.
Jesus is sufficient for me and dead or alive. I will never again be found seating inside any complex listening to any man whose definitions of salvation I don't agree with. Aside Oyedepo, others are Prophet Biodun, Prophet T.B Joshua, Prophet Iginla, Pastor Ayo, Bishop Isaac Idahosa, Pastor Ibiyeomie, Rev King Ezeugo, Bishop Chris ODM and so on.
Once there is a resemblance of Judaism (or occults) in practice and prayer forms count me out be it mantle, human mediators, oil, anointed water, almanac, stickers, idol figure of General Overseer, selling of salvation in whatever disguise, assignments, coerced sacrifices to accelerate answers to prayers and all forms of Elijahs, Moses and Joshuas of our time. Count me out.
Jesus is enough for me.

lexy2014:
when u say d church are u referring 2d leaders of d church or its followers?cos thus wealth seems 2 most b reflected in d lives of d leaders not d ordinary Christians

SUGARDADDY55:
I tap from ur prosperity

Nodogragra4me:


Your smartness is very local for it is unprofitable to you and yours..... I allowed him deceive me to the point where I could afford to marry within three years of joining the commission , acquire my own property for millions and feed my family without making a prayer point out of it ..... you are not even a quality customer of your bank but in I go to first bank and I am taken into a cozy room reserve for gold customer and they send somebody to run my errand while I sip cold drink .....it was not like that until I left the Catholic birch to pursue God rather than religion .........I am a fool for the winners commission for life .... Have you ever seen a gold member ATM card, do you have your name and surname printed on any? So what is the use of your smartness

Nodogragra4me:



Yeah it is along the Tinapa road. We had issues with the community when they came to ask for money and thy were referred to the state government. ..you know winners have a policy against any form of bribery

Dantee005:
Look...keep calm....wat am trying to say is dat since a lot is being preached about generosity. .perphaps a few scholarships can be offered to the less privileged members of the church...

bbbabes:
Someone say Amen

bbbabes:
Someone say Amen

lexy2014:
I have heard oyedepo use d word "we"..." your church " several times but in reality its his church cos d other people in d "we" don't even know jack about all this money talk less of partaking in it.people should read Acts 4:32-35 to c how d early church handled church offering and donations. I don't understand all these hoarding and property acquisition

durentchigozie:
Yahoo pastor. Stupid tithe thief.

sanpipita:


Modern Christians and their materialism, Christianity has suffered at una hands, its now nothing about salvation its all about money money money which is nothing but vanity, a little info whether every man is same before Gods eyes whether you have billons or whatever, stop bragging about things of the world and seek salvation.