agathamari:

i know the history of haiti, i also know that the over 70% of haiti's economy is based on trade with the us. again there are far more cost effective ways to "take over" a country. especialy a country that would welcome you with open arms.

as for this so called weapon tell me this. the energy the earthquake produced is equal to 32 gigtons that is 1,000 times that relased in nagasaki. that much force applied on the surface would have created a shockwave that would have made tunguska look like a bad windstorm. the entire island would have been leveled. depending on the nature of said "weapon" there would have been a EMP, which there wasnt. that force applied on the surface to cause an earthquake would have left behind noticible ground distruptions, instead the plate shifted 8.1KM down with no ground disruption? this "weapon" would have caused compretion damage to buildings and trees, instead there was only vibration and sheer damage. did the us military find a way to negate the laws of physics and quantum mechanics as well?

Please do not appeal to them to use common sense. They've abdicated all claims to having that a long time ago.

Do not talk about the laws of Physics. As far as they are concerned, the 'CIA' is more powerful than Physics and have conquered all such laws.
Hurricane machines? Check. Earthquake weapons? Check. UFOs? Check!

THey are so dumb that if any of those hastily scrawled websites 'confirms' and 'reveals' that the CIA has mastered Faster-than-light travel, they'd believe that with ease.

I've begged them (especially pcmecon) to explain how a so called 'weather weapon' that works on transmitting high-frequency waves into the ionosphere can move tectonic plates with no surface impact. Instead of wracking their brains, guess what they do? Provide yet another web link with similarly wild allegations.

Please do not appeal to them to use common sense. They've abdicated all claims to having that a long time ago.

Do not talk about the laws of Physics. As far as they are concerned, the 'CIA' is more powerful than Physics and have conquered all such laws.
Hurricane machines? Check. Earthquake weapons? Check. UFOs? Check!

THey are so dumb that if any of those hastily scrawled websites 'confirms' and 'reveals' that the CIA has mastered Faster-than-light travel, they'd believe that with ease.

I've begged them (especially pcmecon) to explain how a so called 'weather weapon' that works on transmitting high-frequency waves into the ionosphere can move tectonic plates with no surface impact. Instead of wracking their brains, guess what they do? Provide yet another web link with similarly wild allegations.

@texappette

I have been readin this debate for quite some time now and I feel I should make my own contribution. However how outrageous the claim may be, h evidence suggest that H.A.A.R.P aka earthquake weapon does exist. Pcmecom and shootkill have provided proof as to the potential of the weapons. I have read nicolas tesla works and I know he worked on something similar to H.A.A.RP,however due to the controversial area of this area of science access to information regarding H.A.A.R.P has been restricted to the general public. In 2004 the US military took over the H.A.A.R.P facility in alaska, and some of the scientist who were not comfortable with that development left the institute and published their works in a book titled "Angels dont play this H.A.A.R.P by Dr Nick Begich(ex-employee of H.A.A.R.P). I would strongly recommend this book for you as well as books on "nicolas tesla".

texazzpete:

Please do not appeal to them to use common sense. They've abdicated all claims to having that a long time ago.

Do not talk about the laws of Physics. As far as they are concerned, the 'CIA' is more powerful than Physics and have conquered all such laws.
Hurricane machines? Check. Earthquake weapons? Check. UFOs? Check!

THey are so dumb that if any of those hastily scrawled websites 'confirms' and 'reveals' that the CIA has mastered Faster-than-light travel, they'd believe that with ease.

I've begged them (especially pcmecon) to explain how a so called 'weather weapon' that works on transmitting high-frequency waves into the ionosphere can move tectonic plates with no surface impact. Instead of wracking their brains, guess what they do? Provide yet another web link with similarly wild allegations.

i just think it is hilarious that these anti-us conspiracy theorist base thier ideas off information on the internet - a redundant comunication protocal created FOR the us military, where only a portion of it has been decomissioned for civilian use. basicaly they find all thier anti-us government propaganda on a system developed by and still operated by (mostly) said govenment.

^^^^ Well said

I was able to do some research on H.A.A.R.P aka earthquake weapons. It might interest you to know that H.A.A.R.P can also function as a weather modification device. Research in this area of science has been restricted in the U.S because it involves the use of "tesla technology". Nicolas tesla was the first scientist to venture into this area of science, however after his death, his works went underground. I am not surprised why people still regarded it as a "conspiracy" because information surrounding its technology is highly classified. It might also surprise you to know that a patent for this device currently exist in the U.S

Follow the link
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605.PN.&OS=PN/4,686,605&RS=PN/4,686,605

HAARP will zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam. It is an advanced model of an "ionospheric heater." (The ionosphere is the electrically-charged sphere surrounding Earth's upper atmosphere. It ranges between 40 to 60 miles above the surface of the Earth.)

Put simply, the apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope; antenna send out signals instead of receiving. HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead.



HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other U.S. military documents put it more clearly -- HAARP aims to learn how to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." Communicating with submarines is only one of those purposes.

Press releases and other information from the military on HAARP continually downplay what it could do. Publicity documents insist that the HAARP project is no different than other ionospheric heaters operating safely throughout the world in places such as Arecibo, Puerto Rico, Tromso, Norway, and the former Soviet Union. However, a 1990 government document indicates that the radio-frequency (RF) power zap will drive the ionosphere to unnatural activities.

" , at the highest HF powers available in the West, the instabilities commonly studied are approaching their maximum RF energy dissipative capability, beyond which the plasma processes will 'runaway' until the next limiting factor is reached."

If the military, in cooperation with the University of Alaska Fairbanks, can show that this new ground-based "Star Wars" technology is sound, they both win. The military has a relatively-inexpensive defense shield and the University can brag about the most dramatic geophysical manipulation since atmospheric explosions of nuclear bombs. After successful testing, they would have the military megaprojects of the future and huge markets for Alaska's North Slope natural gas.

Looking at the other patents which built on the work of a Texas' physicist named Bernard Eastlund, it becomes clearer how the military intends to use the HAARP transmitter. It also makes governmental denials less believable. The military knows how it intends to use this technology, and has made it clear in their documents. The military has deliberately misled the public, through sophisticated word games, deceit and outright disinformation.


http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605.PN.&OS=PN/4,686,605&RS=PN/4,686,605

I was able to do some research on H.A.A.R.P aka earthquake weapons. It might interest you to know that H.A.A.R.P can also function as a weather modification device. Research in this area of science has been restricted in the U.S because it involves the use of "tesla technology". Nicolas tesla was the first scientist to venture into this area of science, however after his death, his works went underground. I am not surprised why people still regarded it as a "conspiracy" because information surrounding its technology is highly classified. It might also surprise you to know that a patent for this device currently exist in the U.S

Follow the link
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605.PN.&OS=PN/4,686,605&RS=PN/4,686,605

HAARP will zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam. It is an advanced model of an "ionospheric heater." (The ionosphere is the electrically-charged sphere surrounding Earth's upper atmosphere. It ranges between 40 to 60 miles above the surface of the Earth.)

Put simply, the apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope; antenna send out signals instead of receiving. HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead.



HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other U.S. military documents put it more clearly -- HAARP aims to learn how to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." Communicating with submarines is only one of those purposes.



Press releases and other information from the military on HAARP continually downplay what it could do. Publicity documents insist that the HAARP project is no different than other ionospheric heaters operating safely throughout the world in places such as Arecibo, Puerto Rico, Tromso, Norway, and the former Soviet Union. However, a 1990 government document indicates that the radio-frequency (RF) power zap will drive the ionosphere to unnatural activities.



" , at the highest HF powers available in the West, the instabilities commonly studied are approaching their maximum RF energy dissipative capability, beyond which the plasma processes will 'runaway' until the next limiting factor is reached."

If the military, in cooperation with the University of Alaska Fairbanks, can show that this new ground-based "Star Wars" technology is sound, they both win. The military has a relatively-inexpensive defense shield and the University can brag about the most dramatic geophysical manipulation since atmospheric explosions of nuclear bombs. After successful testing, they would have the military megaprojects of the future and huge markets for Alaska's North Slope natural gas.



Looking at the other patents which built on the work of a Texas' physicist named Bernard Eastlund, it becomes clearer how the military intends to use the HAARP transmitter. It also makes governmental denials less believable. The military knows how it intends to use this technology, and has made it clear in their documents. The military has deliberately misled the public, through sophisticated word games, deceit and outright disinformation.


http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605.PN.&OS=PN/4,686,605&RS=PN/4,686,605

I was able to do some research on H.A.A.R.P aka earthquake weapons. It might interest you to know that H.A.A.R.P can also function as a weather modification device. Research in this area of science has been restricted in the U.S because it involves the use of "tesla technology". Nicolas tesla was the first scientist to venture into this area of science, however after his death, his works went underground. I am not surprised why people still regarded it as a "conspiracy" because information surrounding its technology is highly classified. It might also surprise you to know that a patent for this device currently exist in the U.S

Follow the link
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605.PN.&OS=PN/4,686,605&RS=PN/4,686,605

HAARP will zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam. It is an advanced model of an "ionospheric heater." (The ionosphere is the electrically-charged sphere surrounding Earth's upper atmosphere. It ranges between 40 to 60 miles above the surface of the Earth.)

Put simply, the apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope; antenna send out signals instead of receiving. HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead.



HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other U.S. military documents put it more clearly -- HAARP aims to learn how to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." Communicating with submarines is only one of those purposes.



Press releases and other information from the military on HAARP continually downplay what it could do. Publicity documents insist that the HAARP project is no different than other ionospheric heaters operating safely throughout the world in places such as Arecibo, Puerto Rico, Tromso, Norway, and the former Soviet Union. However, a 1990 government document indicates that the radio-frequency (RF) power zap will drive the ionosphere to unnatural activities.



" , at the highest HF powers available in the West, the instabilities commonly studied are approaching their maximum RF energy dissipative capability, beyond which the plasma processes will 'runaway' until the next limiting factor is reached."

If the military, in cooperation with the University of Alaska Fairbanks, can show that this new ground-based "Star Wars" technology is sound, they both win. The military has a relatively-inexpensive defense shield and the University can brag about the most dramatic geophysical manipulation since atmospheric explosions of nuclear bombs. After successful testing, they would have the military megaprojects of the future and huge markets for Alaska's North Slope natural gas.



Looking at the other patents which built on the work of a Texas' physicist named Bernard Eastlund, it becomes clearer how the military intends to use the HAARP transmitter. It also makes governmental denials less believable. The military knows how it intends to use this technology, and has made it clear in their documents. The military has deliberately misled the public, through sophisticated word games, deceit and outright disinformation.


http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=4,686,605.PN.&OS=PN/4,686,605&RS=PN/4,686,605

^^^^^^pcmecom we heard you the first time

Some people will believe anything. Some people want to believe anything. Next time it rains heavily, they will say "the US caused it so that our oil fields will be too wet to work in so they have to take it over therefore watch out for American submarines and stealth aircraft in the Niger Delta"

BULL SH*T!!

Can any of these people give a correlation between radio waves (no matter how powerful) and tectonic plate movements? Why not link it up with 2012 (THE MOVIE)?

GO TO SCHOOL AND GET A SOUND EDUCATION, BELIEVE IN GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND YOU WONT BE FOOLED BY SAHARA REPORTERS AND THEIR ILK!

mshew!

agathamari:

^^^^^^pcmecom we heard you the first time

Lmao!

LewsTherin:

Some people will believe anything. Some people want to believe anything. Next time it rains heavily, they will say "the US caused it so that our oil fields will be too wet to work in so they have to take it over therefore watch out for American submarines and stealth aircraft in the Niger Delta"

BULL excreta!!

Can any of these people give a correlation between radio waves (no matter how powerful) and tectonic plate movements? Why not link it up with 2012 (THE MOVIE)?

GO TO SCHOOL AND GET A SOUND EDUCATION, BELIEVE IN GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND YOU WONT BE FOOLED BY SAHARA REPORTERS AND THEIR ILK!

mshew!

You wait till they tell you how uneducated and misguided you are!

I dont think its a case of ignorance, its rather the unwillingness to accept the fact that such device can exist. Lets all for a second believe that there is no such thing as H.A.A.R.P or earthquake weapons. It may be a conspiracy after all, but how do we explain the fact that a patent for this device exist?
Could that be another conspiracy?

john_blaze:

I dont think its a case of ignorance, its rather the unwillingness to accept the fact that such device can exist. Lets all for a second believe that there is no such thing as H.A.A.R.P or earthquake weapons. It may be a conspiracy after all, but how do we explain the fact that a patent for this device exist?
Could that be another conspiracy?

For crying out loud.

Do the device exist? Well, there is a device called Harrp that do exsit.

Can it cause earthquake? Put it this way, there is no power on earth enough to cause the kind of earthquake in haiti. It is a thousand times stronger than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima and as such, no nation on earth have that kind of power. So NO Harrp do not posses the kind of power needed to cause an earthquake measuring almost 7 on the Richter scale. etc

As for claiming some scientist who participated in the project wrote a book. Excuse me, they sound more like disgruntled ex-employee who have an axe to grind. Imagine the copies it will sell - thanks to people who like you - when he makes such ridiculous claims!

The point is, there is a weapon called Harrp that exist. I have stated this from the first few threads [see the foreign section] that started all this crap about how US was behind it all. Yes, this weapon exist, but it do not have the kind of power most of you are suggesting. Why? Refer back to the second paragraph above.

For crying out loud.

Do the device exist? Well, there is a device called Harrp that do exsit.

Can it cause earthquake? Put it this way, there is no power on earth enough to cause the kind of earthquake in haiti. It is a thousand times stronger than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima and as such, no nation on earth have that kind of power. So NO Harrp do not posses the kind of power needed to cause an earthquake measuring almost 7 on the Richter scale. etc

As for claiming some scientist who participated in the project wrote a book. Excuse me, they sound more like disgruntled ex-employee who have an axe to grind. Imagine the copies it will sell - thanks to people who like you - when he makes such ridiculous claims!

The point is, there is a weapon called Harrp that exist. I have stated this from the first few threads [see the foreign section] that started all this crap about how US was behind it all. Yes, this weapon exist, but it do not have the kind of power most of you are suggesting. Why? Refer back to the second paragraph above.

Are you conversant with the works of

"nicolas tesla"

?

Read my post again. I know what TESLA is before it was a "point of knowledge" around here.

TESLA weaponry do not have the kind of power needed to cause such destruction. Do you not understand this?


Since it appears you keep throwing this whole tesla name around. Have a read on his wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla#Directed-energy_weapon

Perhaps that will shut you up a bit? No?

so nobody here knows the actual and simple mechanism that can trigger an earthquake?

tpia.:

so nobody here knows the actual and simple mechanism that can trigger an earthquake?

You know it is best to keep quite sometimes and just read and absorb.

Read the thread again instead of asking silly questions.

^^ I asked a basic and factual question.

Do you  or do you not know the actual and simple mechanism that can trigger an earthquake.

I'm not referring to HAARP or any other fancy technology.

tpia.:

^^ I asked a basic and factual question.

Do you  or do you not know the actual and simple mechanism that can trigger an earthquake.

I'm not referring to HAARP or any other fancy technology.

My apologies. I thought you were asking something else. My fault. Apologies for that. [Was in the middle of something when I posted that.]

Oh yeah I know, but people seem to ignore these things.

^^ what is it?

or what do you think it is?

Actually, I think I may have worded the question wrong.

what I mean to ask is:

Do you know what mechanism humans can use to trigger an actual earthquake.

Of course, if you dont believe an earthquake can be man made then dont worry about answering it.

tpia.:

^^ what is it?

or what do you think it is?

Actually, I think I may have worded the question wrong.

what I mean to ask is:

Do you know what mechanism humans can use to trigger an actual earthquake.

Of course, if you dont believe an earthquake can be man made then dont worry about answering it.

From what I know, there is no man made energy/weapon etc as of yet that can trigger an earth quake like we have seen in Haiti.  What have been posted as facts are nothing but supposed weapons etc. Even the Tesla guy been referred to appear to have made a "theoretical inventions" i.e proposed a theory on something that may sound feasible i.e able to work, but probably never proven etc.

ElRazur:


From what I know, there is no man made energy/weapon etc as of yet that can trigger an earth quake like we have seen in Haiti. What have been posted as facts are nothing but supposed weapons etc. Even the Tesla guy been referred to appear to have made a "theoretical inventions" i.e proposed a theory on something that may sound feasible i.e able to work, but probably never proven etc.

the atomic bombs (in japan as well as bikini atol) and the tunguska event (comet exploding above siberia) only ranked about a 2.5 on the richter scale (all were explosions above ground level and would be closest modern representation to what HARRP supposidly could do according to the other 2 people and thier alias), haiti was 7.1

agathamari:

the atomic bombs (in japan as well as bikini atol) and the tunguska event (comet exploding above siberia) only ranked about a 2.5 on the richter scale (all were explosions above ground level and would be closest modern representation to what HARRP supposidly could do according to the other 2 people and thier alias), haiti was 7.1

There is no single proof that the weapon can pull off such a thing. When this claim was made originally in the Foreign section. I replied with this [see below]

[b]Negro nts and horus, you guys are full of non-sense, and that is me putting it lightly.

For reference purposes, the largest nuclear bomb ever used emited about 50MT and in comparison, the earthquake that have struck haiti about 100mt equavalent of energy over a period of 30s. This equals to about 1.3 billion gigawatts and to put things into perspective, there is no man-made energy source that is THAT powerful. The total power is almost 1000 times the combined power of every power station in the world. How the heck does that even add up  in your theory

Also the US site you guys made reference to [or chavez and youtube conspiracist mentioned] is almost some hundreds of miles away and only generate 3.6mv of energy. How the heck do they manage to generate such a massive amount of energy than all power stations in the world combined and then send to some country hundreds of miles away without doing any damage in the process of transfer ?   

Once you guys can stop sprouting crap and then give logical explanations and facts, I will start taking you guys serious. [/b]

None of them have been able to come back and said anything about this point. [This is like the 3rd or 4th time I am having to quote this now]

Read full thread here.     https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-383522.0.html

Firstly, I am not speaking about the haiti case in particular, but more on the general topic of detonations and earthquakes.

Underground detonations cause seismic waves and their magnitude is usually not large enough to solely cause an earthquake. But 'causing' an earthquake is different from catalyzing it. At present it is impossible to precisely predict the time, location and magnitude of an earthquake. What you have is a probability of occurrence. Natural causes of major earthquakes are usually tectonic and volcanic. The process usually involves a buildup of forces (strain, shear, stress, pressure etc) and the measurements of these forces (and the restraining opposition) is used to predict the probability of occurrence. Fault lines are places where the earth's crust has been 'separated' and thus are more susceptible to earthquakes (as one side can more easily move independent of the other and are opposed mainly by friction). Given a fault location that has a build up of seismic forces, it wouldn't take much of an explosion to tip it over and result in a major earthquake. Thus while you cannot just point to a spot anywhere on the earth and hope to 'create' an earthquake, it is a much easier task to facilitate it in an earthquake prone region. Like ripping a paper, once an initial tear or strain is present (e.g. from folding), the rest is much easier. You only need a matchstick, and not a blow torch, to light up a fuel tanker.

How close the detonation needs to be to become a sufficient trigger would depend on several factors including the projected epicenter, the nature of the surrounding crust and upper mantle, and how much energy is required to tip it over i.e. how 'ripe' is the location for an earthquake. Seismic waves decay as they travel and can propagate for over a 1000km underground before losing most of their energy. They lose their energy faster in air and water due to fluidity of the medium (resulting in permanent displacement) and interference from other wave sources. Radiation from the explosion on the other hand doesn't propagate well underground because of the density, with very high frequency waves like x-rays and gamma-rays not going beyond a few meters (e.g. x-ray cannot penetrate dense objects like bones).

All these being said, there are too many ifs and maybes involved to make a weapon to trigger earthquakes practical, as the first thing you want in a weapon is control of where and when the damage occurs. Also countries affected by major fault lines are not high enough in number to spend that much money in designing a weapon that might one day, if we are lucky and are at war with them at the right time, might possibly, cause an earthquake. What is possible though is for irresponsible detonations to trigger an earthquake.

On HAARP: While theoretically it is possible to heat up the earth crust (like the sun does) using EM waves like you have in a microwave oven, it is practically impossible. First major problem is the amount of power that would be required to make a significant difference in the crust temps is not available, second is the lack of directionality in the radiation reflected from the ionosphere, thirdly is that radiation does not penetrate well beyond the earth crust, and fourth is that the effect is localized around the transmitter and decays as you move away as the angle of incidence/reflection increases and the propagation path increase and hence intensity decreases.

@biina
don't even bother. These guys are not even remotely interested in common sense.
When you throw up a challenge, the next thing they go looking for is a website to quote.

When you mention the laws of physics and plate tectonics, their only defense is to ask you "Have you read 'Angels don't play this H.A.A.R.P' by Nick Begich" as if the book gives them an excuse not to use their brains.

I thought so too!
This america is responsible for everything, do you know they gave yaradua churg-strauss syndrome so they can get our oil fields?infact i have it on good authority that they planned the jos crisis so they can bring in special forces to end the fracas.
I have proof believe me! walahi i get proof falafala that they are even planning to cause nothern cows become sterile so the north will eventually die of lack of meat and then america with the help of Igbos will rule over the stubbron west!
Please guys,is PressTV so powerful as to have infiltrated minds so deeply?That station is the most paranoid of TVs,NTA under abacha was more objective than that iranian charade.
I read through this thread from the beginning and no one has given any serious science as back up for the rumour, texazzpete gave some sound science no one has disproved, el razur raised some concerns, no answer!yet we just believe the almighty america can cause rains to fall in the kalahari.
I have to stop here and go off this thread so i dont start believing in some outlandish flights of fancy like this cock and bull story.
I guess i'm uneducated anyways.

reindeer:

I thought so too!
This america is responsible for everything, do you know they gave yaradua churg-strauss syndrome so they can get our oil fields?infact i have it on good authority that they planned the jos crisis so they can bring in special forces to end the fracas.
I have proof believe me! walahi i get proof falafala that they are even planning to cause nothern cows become sterile so the north will eventually die of lack of meat and then america with the help of Igbos will rule over the stubbron west!
Please guys,is PressTV so powerful as to have infiltrated minds so deeply?That station is the most paranoid of TVs,NTA under abacha was more objective than that iranian charade.
I read through this thread from the beginning and no one has given any serious science as back up for the rumour, texazzpete gave some sound science no one has disproved, el razur raised some concerns, no answer!yet we just believe the almighty america can cause rains to fall in the kalahari.
I have to stop here and go off this thread so i dont start believing in some outlandish flights of fancy like this cock and bull story.
I guess i'm uneducated anyways.

Yes you are uneducated!! How can you say you don't know that it was the CIA that set Tiger Woods up with those girls? Don't you know that swine flu was a secret weapon created by the CIA to invade Mexico?
Didn't you notice that there was hardly any harmattan in Nigeria this year? That is H.A.A.R.P in action.

Okay, if you say the CIA is not doing all these, explain to me why they have not found BigFoot or the Abominable Snowman yet. Or are you saying you do not know that the Loch Ness monster is a CIA sleeper agent put there since 1648 to spy on Europe (yes, the H.A.A.R.P allowed time travel so that the CIA could go back in time to 1648)

How can you say that you don't know that the best place to get reliable news is from hastily created websites with dubious theories? And what is this 'Law of Physics' you're so fixated with: The CIA has long since surpassed such trivial things!!!


By the way, have you read 'Angels don't play this H.A.A.R.P'? It solves all problems in life, you don't even need to use your common sense after you read it!!

The way some people want to equate the benevolence of the USA Government with that of God is very alarming.


Please google and find out if the USA was not the first country to use the elements of nature in warfare. When they developed rainmaking technology and caused rain in Vietnam for months, how do you think they achieved that? Do you people even believe that the rainmaking technology was not first tested in Africa or South America before it was taken to the warfront?


Someone was trying to make ridicule that soon conspiracy theorists will claim the USA can make rain in the Kalahari. Of course they can! Israel too Silver Iodide and made snow in the middle east. China took same Silver Iodide and made rain to clear dust and smoke particles in the polluted atmosphere just before the Olympics. The question is why the USA is always trying to weaponize everything.


Someone else says the Haiti earthquake is 1000 times the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. Well, most of the nuclear bombs today are thousands of times more powerful than the bombs dropped on Japan. So?


This is the problem I always face everytime I visit Nairaland. Not ignorance from the ignorant, but ignorance among the educated and well travelled. Are people here trying to say that they first thought of an earthquake weapon before the US military thought of developing it? The Native Americans have been using rainmaking technology for hundreds of years, but the moment that US researchers laid hands on it, it was used as a weapon on Vietnam.



People are asking what there is to gain? When the USA tested the specific effects of nuclear fallouts on the people of the Marshall Islands, what did they stand to gain? Was it oil or clay or whatever resource? No! To find a victim on whom to test a multi-trillion dollar research weapon is enough to be gained.


When the US Military tested the effects of nuclear fallouts alone on the Marshall Islands, was it because of the clay there? Or because of the oil? Or simply because such a weapon just required guinea pigs in a third world country?


The USA will always have standby troops and good response time for another country, but when it's Louisiana or New Orleans, that's when they'll be handicapped and that's when they'll spend days and weeks and months trying to get aid through, and that's when their FEMA will be lost as to what to do, that's when the hand of the presidency would be slow to sign.



Now we hear that the USS Carl Vinson was already in Haiti within hours to start carrying out nuclear desalination of water. Feralination indeed! Or cleaning up any evidence? The eagerness of the USA in Haiti is nothing more than cleaning up the evidence and gathering specific onsite experiment results. Finito!

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The way some people want to equate the benevolence of the USA Government with that of God is very alarming.


Please google and find out if the USA was not the first country to use the elements of nature in warfare. When they developed rainmaking technology and caused rain in Vietnam for months, how do you think they achieved that? Do you people even believe that the rainmaking technology was not first tested in Africa or South America before it was taken to the warfront?


Someone was trying to make ridicule that soon conspiracy theorists will claim the USA can make rain in the Kalahari. Of course they can! Israel too Silver Iodide and made snow in the middle east. China took same Silver Iodide and made rain to clear dust and smoke particles in the polluted atmosphere just before the Olympics. The question is why the USA is always trying to weaponize everything.


Someone else says the Haiti earthquake is 1000 times the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. Well, most of the nuclear bombs today are thousands of times more powerful than the bombs dropped on Japan. So?


This is the problem I always face everytime I visit Nairaland. Not ignorance from the ignorant, but ignorance among the educated and well travelled. Are people here trying to say that they first thought of an earthquake weapon before the US military thought of developing it? The Native Americans have been using rainmaking technology for hundreds of years, but the moment that US researchers laid hands on it, it was used as a weapon on Vietnam.



People are asking what there is to gain? When the USA tested the specific effects of nuclear fallouts on the people of the Marshall Islands, what did they stand to gain? Was it oil or clay or whatever resource? No! To find a victim on whom to test a multi-trillion dollar research weapon is enough to be gained.


When the US Military tested the effects of nuclear fallouts alone on the Marshall Islands, was it because of the clay there? Or because of the oil? Or simply because such a weapon just required guinea pigs in a third world country?


The USA will always have standby troops and good response time for another country, but when it's Louisiana or New Orleans, that's when they'll be handicapped and that's when they'll spend days and weeks and months trying to get aid through, and that's when their FEMA will be lost as to what to do, that's when the hand of the presidency would be slow to sign.



Now we hear that the USS Carl Vinson was already in Haiti within hours to start carrying out nuclear desalination of water. Feralination indeed! Or cleaning up any evidence? The eagerness of the USA in Haiti is nothing more than cleaning up the evidence and gathering specific onsite experiment results. Finito!

You too? I must say i'm not surprised, though.

Seeding clouds to create rain has been in existence since the 1930s. And the US use of rainmaking technology is merely the use of what has been known since the 1930s to prolong the monsoon rains merely to ensure that roads for heavy vietnamese trucks remain boggy and unpassable. Hardly the 'weapon' you insinuate it is. Oya, how lethal was this 'rain weapon'?

You display an unfortunate lack of reading skills. No one here claimed that the energy released by the earthquake was '1000 times the power of the hiroshima bomb'. El Razur said it's 1000 times the energy generation capacity of all the power plants on the planet! If you have difficulty reading, i can easily arrange for evening classes for you.

But let's humour you for a moment. let's assume the US drilled down into haiti's soil and detonated the most powerful nuclear device known to man. Oya, where's the telltale indications on the surface?

You bluster on and on about 'ignorant people'. You're a prime example.

But you're an amusing diversion. At least you didn't go on and on about H.A.A.R.P

The major problem with many young Nigerians is that they think the things taught in school are a waste of time and is only needed to pass an exam. They have failed many times to realise these things are practicable in life and as such are held bound by urban myths, conspiracy theories and certain aspects of prosperity dogma.

Mr Goh Cheng Leong would be very disappointed by the comments made by people that claimed to have passed a subject having studied his book.

Speaking of myth. I think a program based on the popular Myth Busters on the Discovery Channel will be a big hit in Naija. Imagine it exposing all the superstitions and myth belief held by our people. I think it will be a big hit.

**Gets on the phone to NTA and AiT directors**

ElRazur:

Speaking of myth. I think a program based on the popular Myth Busters on the Discovery Channel will be a big hit in Naija. Imagine it exposing all the superstitions and myth belief held by our people. I think it will be a big hit.

**Gets on the phone to NTA and AiT directors**

You run the risk of being accused as using 'means' to bust such myths that hold the simple minds amongst us. I mean I have witnessed people attributing Late Steve Irwin's heroics to his use of special 'powers'.

People just don't want to learn. How do you explain a graduate believing and insisting that consumption of lots of water can lead to obesity.