", the new nation called Nigeria should be an estate from our great grand father Othman Dan Fodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use the minorities in the north as willing tools and the south as conquered territories and never allow them to have control of their future".
Sir Ahmadu Bello, The patriot 12 Oct 1960 (Thisday 14/1/10 page 40).

bayo1:

Please tell me, is this quote above true? Then if it is, we should better go our different ways. You pple that are trying to preach one Nigeria, u should better rethink! If we refuse to do the right thing now(breaking into our different ethnic group), a generation is coming and very soon that will not take all these nonsense. If you think we are one, you are simply deceiving yourself! Let us siddon look, until this enemy of progress/modernization spread their wicked act to the south and start killing everyone, i think the pple that are left will do the right thing then. Abo oro l'anso f'omoluabi,

cola:

hmmmm!

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If there is any evidence I need that the perpetrators of the dastardly acts in Jos do not stand for Islaam, the kiling of women and children provided it.

Even in a state of all out war, Islaam[b] prohibits[/b] the killing of women, children, non-combatants (whether men or women), animals and destruction of plant life.

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I read many hate-filled verbal attacks on this thread, just like on many threads on this board. While I understand the background for those hate-filled verbose, I think it is better if it is directed at the people as a tribe or ethnic group, not at their religion.

The verbal attacks are actually many times unprovoked. If ever there was a truly religious crisis, it is such unwarranted verbal attacks and expressions of hate for a religion that's the cause.

Imagine a verbal attack on the religion of a short-tempered man on the street of Funtua, a reaction (most probably over-reaction) from a short tempered people, then a counter-reaction and it snowballs into a big crisis.

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justfash50:

[b]hmmmm!

I just feel a need to add my perspective to this issue. maybe, just maybe, a couple of people might appreciate it.
Even if only one person does appreciate it, the purpose would have been served.

Firstly let me say categorically that I consider the killings in Jos horrific.

If there is any evidence I need that the perpetrators of the dastardly acts in Jos do not stand for Islaam, the kiling of women and children provided it.

Even in a state of all out war, Islaam prohibits the killing of women, children, non-combatants (whether men or women), animals and destruction of plant life.

I've always had the feeling that every time crisis breaks out in the north, it's painted as religious when most times, it's tribal, ethnic and most often political. The media however, because they are either too imcompetent to do some investigative work or they are compromised by the politicians who are the architects of this crisis, they paint it with the easy and ready brush of religion - the same way the Nigerian Police find it easy to quickly call every assassination in the country armed robbery incidents.

Every time there is a problem north of the Niger, all I hear is blood-thirsty Islamic Jihadist, but the times there had been problems in the south, we didn't attach it to a particuar religion, we were content to call it ethnic.

Hausa-Fulanis are maybe mostly muslim, but their actions many times DO NOT represent Islaam. The actions many times tell of tribes of people who are short on temperament and quick to anger. Many here do not or pretend not to understand that.

People from many of the tribes in the north, whether muslim or christian (and I'm sure you know there are many christians there) are more often than not short on temperamnent and quick to anger.

In the current crisis, REPORTS THAT THOUSAND OF COWS WERE KILLED in the January attacks are correct, then I don't see this later attacks would be difficult to fathom. YOU DONT KILL A FULANI MAN' EVEN ONE AND GO BED WITH YOUR EYES CLOSED. The security agencies failed woefully here. This was preventable. qI read many hate-filled verbal attacks on this thread, just like [/size] on many threads on this board. While I understand the background for those hate-filled verbose, I think it is better if it is directed at the people as a tribe or ethnic group, not at their religion.

The verbal attacks are actually many times unprovoked. If ever there was a truly religious crisis, it is such unwarranted verbal attacks and expressions of hate for a religion that's the cause.

Imagine a verbal attack on the religion of a short-tempered man on the street of Funtua, a reaction (most probably over-reaction) from a short tempered people, then a counter-reaction and it snowballs into a big crisis.

@uplawal

I think you should check this your unhelpful attitude to the kiling of children and defenceless women. Must you be happy that children have been killed? What purpose does it serve? The killing of children and women is everything against the rules of engagement in Islaam. I don't see how you are helping Islaam with your perspective and attitude.[/b]
@cola

May ALLAH bless u with this incisive and rich contribution.


@uplawal,
Please this is condemnable in ISLAM and am sure you know that this massacre is not allow in ISLAM.

Please seek for forgiveness from ALLAH.

justfash50:

@Abu Maryam

Please heed the call of peace and tone down this vulgar of yours.

I am sooo sober and i wept with the family that count their loss amongst these ethnic groups. I am alays of the opinion that Politicians will always have their way if we masses that voted them their have this kind of mindset.there are so many questions for jang ( i dont see him as a governor) and the military men plus the politicians.

I pray that all the culprit in this mayhem is brought to book and also pray for the repose souls of those that have died.

Please those putting religious sentiment should know that this case is purely tribal and ethnic fight.The media are sooo corrupt and are changing the mindset of gullible people into hatred for one another.

nagoma:

", the new nation called Nigeria should be an estate from our great grand father Othman Dan Fodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We must use the minorities in the north as willing tools and the south as conquered territories and never allow them to have control of their future".
Sir Ahmadu Bello, The patriot 12 Oct 1960 (Thisday 14/1/10 page 40).

Please tell me, is this quote above true? Then if it is, we should better go our different ways. You pple that are trying to preach one Nigeria, u should better rethink! If we refuse to do the right thing now(breaking into our different ethnic group), a generation is coming and very soon that will not take all these nonsense. If you think we are one, you are simply deceiving yourself! Let us siddon look, until this enemy of progress/modernization spread their wicked act to the south and start killing everyone, i think the pple that are left will do the right thing then. Abo oro l'anso f'omoluabi,

nd thats what is happening to our brothers in the far east,the Americans and the british feels okay about their perpetuated acts cos the UMMAH is not too united in war,they are not fighting togetherly like they should hence theres is division in the UMMAH which is not supposed to be so,every muslim irrespective of whatever tribe

i dnt think revenge is a sin in ISLAM even if its fine to forgive,as for the children,am sorry for the loss, they will be fine with their Lord

uplawal:

@Abu Mayryam,thanks and weldone,all thier hypocricy comments just boils me more,how can they kill a fulani and thier cattles then expect peace to reign,hell no peace shall not reign until we fight back,very irritating people,they make noise about children dying,the attack on the muslims dnt women and children die?in as much as they continue then we take  hot revenge

“For more than 45 years, we gave them our land free-of-charge and they  raised their families and cattle here and we had no problem with them. It is therefore painful that it is those who had benefitted from our generosity and good neighbourliness that would do this to us”, he said almost in tears.