shaybebaby:

In light of the first bolded statement of yours, shouldn't the last one read "man" instead of woman?

shaybebaby:

Nah mate, his spirit is strong with you guys. He grabs them by the pvssy because he thinks he is man and the leader. Right in the same school of thought as you.

See, if he was like me, he'd do it in a strip club instead because there, for the right amount of money, you can. You know, do what you want, your way without infringing on anyone else's right. (you have their permission)

2buffagain:


I like girls who don't mind going to stripclubs. They are cool babes.
But knowing how you feel about men, and the negative way you paint us all, I wouldn't see our jaiye going past BF/GF level!

Blackhawk01:


Me? Hate men? You've gat the wrong pesin biko, I love men but I hate chauvinist, especially senseless ones. And you would agree with me that we've got them in large number, even here on nairaland.

Submission - I'm giving yield, ready to accept your opinions.

Subjection - you're controlling me, with or without my approval. Whether it's good enough for me or not, I'm under your control.

supersystemsnig:



Marriage comes with responsibilities...if babes go to clubs for clubbing, should it continue into marriage? How about the imagery of the institution...All those engagement should end during relationships and not into marriage nau

2buffagain:


If you don't trust him to LEAD you then why did you accept his proposal?
You don't accept a job as vice president if you don't trust the president to be an effective leader in his own capacity.
Because your job would be to support his rule.
If not, You only did so if your whole goal from the start was to usurp the president.

That is what marriage is.
You are agreeing to be LED by the man.
You are agreeing to yield to him.

This comes with respect.

If you have no respect for the man, you cannot love him the way he is meant to be loved.

If you want marriage to be any other way, then YOU WOMEN need to nut up and start buying rings; kneeling and proposing; paying for weddings/groom prices & lists and all that (the equivalent of you starting your own company). You really can't eat your cake and have it by everything being done for you.

tosyne2much:
I will quote you each time I stumble on some of your old posts

Okay, I will be careful with choice of words

tosyne2much:
I don't know we still have right thinking people like this on Nairaland

The whole idea of "a man can't control me" is the reason why many ladies get kicked out of the home.

A marriage is not an institution where two people wrestle for who should be in a position of authority. By default, power is bestowed on men to be in position of authority, a leader of a family with the support of the wife. You know what happens in homes where it's the other way round.

This is the way it has been and that's the way it should be. I'm just surprised these days are not cool with the idea that a man should have control over them. What many of them don't is that, a man having control over wife doesn't mean he will be beating her or she won't have a say in the home

pocohantas:


Thanks for your understanding, that's why I like you...sometimes.
Nah, except I want to annoy some people intentionally, there are things I don't support...infidelity is one of them.



Not every man wants to control a woman in the name of marriage. I've met a few who don't give a fuk, just respect them. Marry the woman you can control, everyone should find his or her spec.

2buffagain:


That first post was pointing out the sheer absurdity of trying to run a ship with 2 captains.
It doesn't work.

There are people who abuse this...that's unfortunate.
But it doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day, there HAS to be someone who makes the call for that organization.

That's why CHOOSING a leader is important.
Does the leader act like Trump? Or does he mediate and appoint the call to most skilled/relevant person?
Is the leader abusive and emotional? Or is he a rock of stability and logic?
These things lie in the quality of the leader...and in the ability of the woman to CHOOSE the right leader (and be leadable herself).
At the end of the day, this leader must be seen as "The Lead".
A marriage will not last without this understanding.

Dating is one thing, marriage is another. Not understanding this is why a lot of marriages are doomed in this generation.
I have not deviated from what I've been telling you in this thread.

shaybebaby:

And the whole point is that arrangement no longer works. Women are fighting for more rights to be equal not to be superior.

And even within the same organisational structures that you as examples, there are checks to counter abuse of power by those in position of leadership. You fail to perform as president, you are voted out, act unconstitutionally,-impeachment.
CEO- mess up? Replaced by the shareholders.

What you advocate has no place in civilised societies, maybe in North Korea, that style of leadership is akin to what you proscribe as leadership.

So tell me, what checks exist for your male leadership in marriage?

2buffagain:


I like girls who don't mind going to stripclubs. They are cool babes.
But knowing how you feel about men, and the negative way you paint us all, I wouldn't see our jaiye going past BF/GF level!

pocohantas:


Thanks for your understanding, that's why I like you...sometimes.
Nah, except I want to annoy some people intentionally, there are things I don't support...infidelity is one of them.



Not every man wants to control a woman in the name of marriage. I've met a few who don't give a fuk, just respect them. Marry the woman you can control, everyone should find his or her spec.

lefulefu:
op all these feminism stuff i dey always dey avoid their discussion oo

Can you see the reason why most men don't ever want to wife such ladies? . They will always look for a way to twist things and turn them upside down

Very arrogant set of people!

tosyne2much:
What has kneeling down to serve food got to do with subjecting yourself to your husband? Or is it that you just want to argue blindly just to sound intelligent?

2buffagain:


There you;ve gone again to the extreme end.
I think you're focused on seeing red. We won't see eye to eye on these matters.

In the mean time, when you heading out to the stripclub?

Linux007:
The above question have generated a lot of controversies as long as sexual politics, equality of sexes is concerned.

The feminist have always tried to persuade the world that women are powerless in the society, saying men are natural oppressors of women.
Like a popular feminist Ellen Galford would say : wives are subordinate to their husbands in the home, and outside the home, men have excluded women from political, economical and cultural power.

On counter opinion, a wise man once said : if however powerful a man may be, his powers is used to serve the woman in his life, everyman has a boss as his wife,mother or anyother woman in his life.
Men may rule the world but women rule the men who rule the world.

Nairalanders, what do tou think? Give yout opinion and reason.

ZandhaZaraZ:
Can you kneel down to serve food to your wife?

Who be this one again? Hahahahaha

Nothing wey person no go see for this thread

shaybebaby:

Why is it extreme?
Answer my question.

2buffagain:


There you;ve gone again to the extreme end.
I think you're focused on seeing red. We won't see eye to eye on these matters.

In the mean time, when you heading out to the stripclub?

2buffagain:


Definitely bros.
The stripclub is different from clubbing though. People don't go to the stip club to "meet" members of the opposite sex as they would in a club.
It's more like a burlesque show. People eat and stuff at the stripclub. Out here in ATL going to the stripclub is a culturally normal thing.

As long as both couples are into it, that all boils down to couple compatibility and them having fun together.

supersystemsnig:



Marriage comes with responsibilities...if babes go to clubs for clubbing, should it continue into marriage? How about the imagery of the institution...All those engagement should end during relationships and not into marriage nau

tosyne2much:
Can you see the reason why most men don't ever want to wife such ladies? . They will always look for a way to twist things and turn them upside down

Very arrogant set of people!

shaybebaby:

Then men shouldn't go clubbing either.

supersystemsnig:



You must be fucken kiddin me brov, couples going to strip clubs together...Hilarious...Little wonder why the world's going bananas, how would such hopeless degenerates raise up healthy children and instill sound values and principles in them?

tosyne2much:
Do you know where you're actually getting it wrong? When someone says "control" or "submissiveness", what most of you think is that "So, I have to go on my knees while serving him food?; So, I have to ask for his permission before wearing my pants and bras?, So, he will cheat on me, beat me up and expect me to keep mum?" Oooooh yeah! That's where many of you get it wrong

I can subject to my woman's leading especially on a subject she is more experienced or skilled at. In fact, often times, I seek the consent and opinions of my girlfriend before taking a step because I know she's highly intelligent and logical in reasoning.

I want you to know that there's no reasonable man who just makes decisions without taking the opinions of his wife into consideration

2buffagain:


I agree with you, such should be toned down after serious unions.
But lemme level with you, there are more honest couples in a strip club than there are in church. I dey tell you.

2buffagain:


I can understand a leader like Trump needing impeachment (abuse of power), but is that your mindset for every single time a leader doesn't do things YOUR WAY?
Because by that very same logic, you yourself won't be able to lead a person like you! You wouldn't last in any leadership capacity in anything.

Is your definition of "Abuse of power" = "Disagreeing with me"?

You are just projecting your own inability to lead at men, which is why you've been hell-bent on this "I expect power to be abused by men 100%" mindset..

lefulefu:

bro when i see a feminazi(feminist) i always run .u can have dem as a friend but say na relationship mba ooo

Egbon Lefulefu, na the men wey go carry them put for house I pity ooo

Me sef dey always grab race the moment I don see any woman wey get "I don't take nonsense" attitude

These are ladies that are always right in their own path, they want to be in control of relationships/ marriage whereby the man will oblige to anything they do

pocohantas:


I have never mentioned kneeling to serve food, I don't know where you got that from. It's not my business how they serve food...so far they are both happy with the arrangement.

Control means, rule, command, restrain. There are women who are okay with you reminding them you will control them, marry them.
I respect a husband and his position as the head of the home, but I won't tolerate him telling me he will control me. We will control and respect each other. This is the kind of man I seek.

Every organised set has a leader, be it office, religious or family. The day a leader comes out and starts telling his subordinates "I will control you", rather than saying "we are a team, but since we need a spokesperson...I am that person", there would be chaos. Dassall

2buffagain:


I twale for this babe.
She gets it!