true2home:
Hi, you did a good job on this project in terms of neatness.

That said, pls dont get offended when people ask you questions on your project. They are trying to understand your methods and the reason for them.

On piler issue, this particular one level project can do without it. The reason beening that there are lots of divider vertical wall such that it can support the roof both horizontally and vertically... we also dont experience seizmic condition much in Nigeria too. So you are good. Six units, with Kitchenettes and toilet wall, all cramed into one small build.

saydfact:
The next group of pics shows that Foundation digging completed, foundation is been cast and while one set were casting, the other set was laying the first course of blocks before it solidifies

No Time - To Waste Time

Also, Soak-away digging was 100% and Septic Tank in progress......

we started the foundation closer to those digging so as they dug out the soil/rock, they threw them into the foundation (filling) AT NO EXTRA COST advantage me.... (as shown in pics 4)

Daboomb:


Below is a picture you supplied on page zero.

What do you call this sort of Piping?

Conduit or Surface Piping?

Again, you seem not to remember that "forces on a Building" are not just vertical?
They could be vertical, Horizontal and even sheer forces (that pull things apart)

The building elements themselves themselves (including weight of Blocks and Mortar, wood noggins and roofing sheets, e.t.c) all introduce different forces due to their weight, no matter how small (especially sheer forces) that can only be counter-balanced by adequate linking/chaining together.
And to think that because your ground is "Rock" therefore the building does not experience "ground forces" is like saying Earthquakes can NEVER occur where the ground is hard!
The Earth's crust is in continous motion and upheveal, that is a fact

Anyone who has done a little Physics would have encountered all these in a section called "Moment and Froces". (Basic level physics).

Most of us talking about adding pillars at specific points in thebuilding at looking at the "long-term" stability fo the building, not the short term.
Blocks wear and disintegrate over time, it is the concrete elements that last longer.

Anyway, what is done, is done.
We are not here to argue but to commend your work and encourage people like you even further.

DEXTROVERT:


Op please enlightened us
I noticed you using granite for foundations
I used to think it's done with rock /stone....especially for houses, and not fence...hoping to start a 4-bedroom flat next year

DEXTROVERT:


Op please enlightened us
I noticed you using granite for foundations
I used to think it's done with rock /stone....especially for houses, and not fence...hoping to start a 4-bedroom flat next year

saydfact:


SIR, THE SHOPRITE AT SANGOTEDO (after Ajah) WAS DONE BY THE COMPANY WHERE I'M EMPLOYED.

ITS AS HIGH AS 30 COURSES OF BLOCK WITHOUT A BREAK (NO LINTEL - NO BEAM)

I'll advice you read more on construction methods.... What if i decided to use wood or angle bars, you wld say the building done collapse already..

lol

Mrkumareze:

I don't believe you bros and, That Mr A built without beam or lintel doesn't make it right. My father's house was built with short lintel (then they have solid cement and other materials unlike the present building materials) yet we have cracking that went from foundation to the Last block. .bear it in mind that most professional builder erect structures with pillars, beam and lintel before fixing blocks or bricks however, your idea is economical but the quality is reduced!!

saydfact:



I'm an Architect... We even did approval and survey plans...

Approval cost about 400k and that's not part of the 8m spent on the building itself

okikigsm:


Good of you Sir .pls can we see the plan

okikigsm:
I envy and copy your boldness about your work.weldone

saydfact:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/4541923_wp20160216185826pro_jpege78c52533b67e943fe72c609145b7520

@ Mrkumareze:
the pics above shows shoprite walls (googled) with about 30 courses of blocks (to the right side of the pics) WITHOUT a beam dividing it. The distance between those columns are about 6-9m apart....

The method used in erecting those block is different from the normal block setting way - thats an info for another day and time.

Hope now you believe my statements earlier?

Thanks Bro...

saydfact:
Hi NL Property Followers,

I just completed this project some months back and I purposely followed my advice to you all on how to save / reduce cost of construction (see my signature - if you missed those threads) and its time to share them with you....

For each stage, I'll be explaining how cost was saved where we did, and other advice along the way....

Lets start with DAY1 pics below where againt my expectation the 'bushes' on site had not been cleared 100% - so we had to get to business and quickly so.

Lesson 1: Always make sure the site has been cleared days to; on this day we were lucky there was no trees, just overgrown bushes.

YelloweWest:

Pls price of wc and bathtubs pls.

Thanks

gbolex:
Your client will be spending over 23 years before ROI

saydfact:



Prices from my sellers last week:

Tyford WC & WHB with tap 26700
Twyford without the Tap 23500
Virony 69000
Sweet home 35000

Ditto all with WC & WHB to match

All with Top flush..

The normal flush with handles are cheaper..
Eg N21k for Tyford

I'll find out bathtubs on my next market survey.

Thanks sir

Daboomb:


Stop comparing Apples and Oranges.

That Shoprite picture you showed, has answered the question itself.
That building is basically an Iron structure with Blocks just inserted to fill the walls.
Once the Blocks are staright/balanced, their weight will act vetically downwards on each other while the iron columns carry all the load and help the walls to maintain stability as well

It is different from the kind of building you have here where the Blocks are the load-carrying elements themselves.
Any building wall without columns/beams (no matter how few), is an accident waiting to happen, ....it is just a question of time and when.

Mrkumareze:


Convincing the Op is a difficult task, I wondered how he's comparing the shoprite with what he present us here. That house is a disaster waiting for the right time to occur .
My father's house was built in 70s without Columns and beams, just like what the Op presented, today the crack on the walls keeps developing and, we can't even compare the durability of cement then with what we
Presently .
Op is just trying to cover up his lapses, I discovered he built the house for someone who's not within the country & he probably he charged for both Labour and materials

saydfact:




I'll advice you talk to a structural engineer for enlightening.... Not everyone is a fraud.... And let me hammer it in once again.

That building type on that soil type DOES NOT need a column.... . Quote me any day.


Everyone and anyone Who KNOWS A QUALITY JOB SHD TELL FROM THE PICS I SENT.... DO U THINK PICKING 6 PAINTS IS AS CHEAP AS USING ONE PAINT?

DO YOU THINK THAT CASEMENT WINDOWS ARE CHEAP AND THE ALUMINUM ROOF...

DID YOU SEE THE KITCHEN SINK AND I USED THE MOST EXPENSIVE CABLES IN THE NIGERIAN MARKET.

HILARIOUS UR COMMENT ABOVE.... HILARIOUS

DID YOU SEE THE ROOF CARCASS, NO CONTRACTOR USES 2by6, 2by4 and 3by4 THE WAY I USED IT.... I DOUBT YOU SAW ALL THOSE...

Talk to a professional Bro....... Or google.
Thanks

saydfact:


about 100k but this method is always used as an estimate depending on foundation type

davodyguy:


Chief what the gross area the building is sitting on out of the site? = 130m2

And also what is the gross area of each romm = 23m2 (with convenience etc)

davodyguy:


Thanks.

A friend is planning of getting a site with land area of minimum 250 sqm ( 10m * 25m) or 350sqm (15m * 23m)

Would want to do a bungalow that would be decked, so in the future, when finance increase, the family can put another structure above the bungalow.

kindly advice on

1. Cost to such, putting in mind site is really water logged and height of the foundation must be as high as 1m from the road level
2. what space that can be used from a 250sqm land and 350sqm land

Thanks.

May be na u go do the construction sef

davodyguy:


Thanks.

A friend is planning of getting a site with land area of minimum 250 sqm ( 10m * 25m) or 350sqm (15m * 23m)

Would want to do a bungalow that would be decked, so in the future, when finance increase, the family can put another structure above the bungalow.

kindly advice on

1. Cost to such, putting in mind site is really water logged and height of the foundation must be as high as 1m from the road level
2. what space that can be used from a 250sqm land and 350sqm land

Thanks.

May be na u go do the construction sef

saydfact:
Architect

Glocal1:
Good to know sir, keep up the good work. Please how much could successfully complete a 4-bedroom flat exclusive of the land cost?. Thanks

saydfact:


Don't bother yourself with HOW MUCH - just start and you wld be surprised... However to answer your question, a quality 4bed wld cost about 5-6m or 4.5 on low budget and finishing.

Goodluck

Daboomb:


Stop comparing Apples and Oranges.

That Shoprite picture you showed, has answered the question itself.
That building is basically an Iron structure with Blocks just inserted to fill the walls.
Once the Blocks are staright/balanced, their weight will act vetically downwards on each other while the iron columns carry all the load and help the walls to maintain stability as well

It is different from the kind of building you have here where the Blocks are the load-carrying elements themselves.
Any building wall without columns/beams (no matter how few), is an accident waiting to happen, ....it is just a question of time and when.

gbolex:
I did a similar project, 10 rooms in total cost like 15m including cost of the land and other paper works. Cost of another 10 rooms foundation is inclusive. Find attached picture. Technically when you investing in such project, you need to confirm the cost of renting a self-contain hostel in that area. I doubt if the student there can pay 80K annually, i had to sell the land i bought there after completing 1st phase of this project. I will rather invest in TBills than building hostel for now. Its all about ROI, i dont think you need to use such expensive windows. Ileshe sch of health is not a high profile school (Sorry to say that but that is the truth). You really saved cost there, i made some mistakes while building mine but learnt my lesson.

simplynace:


Please how much is a plot of land at this Ileshe?