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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:26pm On Sep 17, 2014
North Africa campaign. These guys were known as the Springboks. Here they are on patrol.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:28pm On Sep 17, 2014
SAAF 1 Squadron Canadair CL-13B Sabre Mk VI 380 flying in the area between Potgietersrust and Pietersburg.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:30pm On Sep 17, 2014
Just because it's so very stunningly stunning. That's all. The Grip.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:31pm On Sep 17, 2014
I don't think this needs to be captioned.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:32pm On Sep 17, 2014
Squadron 2. Korean war. Real experience.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:33pm On Sep 17, 2014
61 Mech - Charlie Squadron - sitting on a destroyed Russian T55 tank. Real stuff.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:35pm On Sep 17, 2014
Original caption: "South African offensives in WW1. A haunting image showing the destruction of innocence and the disillusionment of defeat - here a wounded German prisoner, aged only 16 years old - already demonstrates the "thousand yard stare" (a condition of emotional and physical exhaustion after prolonged combat exposure). He was captured near Potijze by Scottish and South African troops, during the Battle of the Menin Road Ridge, 20th September 1917."

Real history.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:35pm On Sep 17, 2014
DieVluit:
The cause of all this is the same thing that has rendered their military effectively toothless. Corruption. Such a conspicuous building. How could they just pile on additional floors just like that?



WHENEVER A NIGERIAN IS AT WORK YOU MUST KEEP AWAY.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:36pm On Sep 17, 2014
Original caption: "Operation FLOTSAM: the major supply drop to Yugoslav partisans by South African Air Force and Royal Air Force units of the Mediterranean Allied Air Forces. Here parachute containers, dropped from a Consolidated Liberator of No. 34 Squadron SAAF, are seen descending over the drop zone near the town of Predgrad, 30 miles south-west of Zagreb."

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:39pm On Sep 17, 2014
The Springboks on the Somme. WW1. Real experience right here.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:40pm On Sep 17, 2014
Fighterpilot, for you. Caption: "Here two Mirage III D2Zs, numbers 843 and 849 at the weapons camp in Langebaan in 1985 - one of which is having a 'wet start' - where excess fuel in the combustion chamber and tail pipe is burnt off in a phenomenon called 'torching' .. a flaming arse indeed."

Vlamgat wink

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:42pm On Sep 17, 2014
Original caption: "Another reason why South Africans can hold their heads high - this is the South African Air Force squadron which first 'discovered' and then photographed Auschwitz concentration camp.

Seen here is a SAAF De Haviland Mosquito FB mk VI of 60 Squadron in Italy - 3 September 1944.

The Squadron, equipped with photo-recce Mosquitoes, carried out detailed large-scale photographic surveys of German held areas, eventually ranging over the Alps and deep into Germany.

During one of these missions in Spring 1944, a 60 Squadron Mosquito piloted by Lt. C.H.H Barry and his navigator Lt. I McIntyre photographed Auschwitz when they went to photograph the rubber refinery plant next to the camp.

When the photos were analyzed, they found rows of people lining up in the camp. The photos also showed chimneys and all the other characteristics of a camp for prisoners. This, with other intelligence, brought them to the conclusions that extermination camps existed."

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:44pm On Sep 17, 2014
Private Myengwa Beleza. The Chaplain of the SNLAC Camp at Dannes. 1917. He served in France.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:47pm On Sep 17, 2014
New recruits at training. SAAF. 80s-90s

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:49pm On Sep 17, 2014
May 1943. SAAF. North Africa.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:49pm On Sep 17, 2014
To be continued another day.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:57pm On Sep 17, 2014
FighterPilot:


ALL THAT YOU HAVE SAID DOES NOT IN ANY TRUE SENSE HAVE ANY WEIGHT. THE FACT, HOWEVER, REMAINS THAT DAMAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. BY BH WHO BADLY DENTLY YOUR IMAGE. OUR CHILDREN WILL ONE DAY READ ABOUT THIS EMBARRASSMENT SINCE IT WILL GO DOWN THE ANNALS OF HISTORY.

Same story and history for South African military that was defeated by ordinary Rhino hunters.

For Nigerian army, when the war is over, history will read that we defeated the most powerful Islamic terrorist force is Africa.

Now there is no problem about a war in Nigeria, the sweet thing for history is that we got Victory at the end.

The end of story for South Africa is the read bad news, your Soweto grandchildren will read that Rhino hunters finally defeated SANDF and your government relocated your precious Rhinos to permanent exile to Botswana grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 5:05pm On Sep 17, 2014
Boko Haram: Over 400 killed in Konduga, Ngamdu as soldiers ambush insurgents
By Maina Maina on September 17, 2014@dailypostngr



Images (21)No fewer than 400 members of the dreaded Islamic sect, Boko Haram were reportedly killed in their latest clash with soldiers of the Nigerian 7 division.

The insurgents fell to the officers who ambushed them while they tried to attack Konduga local government area of Borno central senatorial district.

Locals also said, that, they attempted to attack Konduga from two directions with over 500 fighters when the military fought and defended the local government, killing over 200 before the insurgents retreated.


DailyPost also gathered that, after the attack was repelled, some of them went through the forest and were heading towards Mafa local government area when soldiers laid ambush on them again, killing over 100 while the rest escaped with bullet wounds.

In another development, over 100 sect members who came up to attack travelers along Maiduguri- Potiskum road met their Waterloo when the detachment along that route engaged them in a fierce battle, killing all of them.

http://dailypost.ng/2014/09/17/boko-haram-400-killed-konduga-ngamdu-soldiers-ambush-insurgents/

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/troops-recover-3-vehicles-1-apc-insurgents-laleye/


http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/troops-crush-terrorists-revenge-mission-at-konduga/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:09pm On Sep 17, 2014
Patchesagain:

yes, a state of decline from a level that Nigeria could not even comprehend, and a state that Nigeria will never acheive. A decline that is about to be ended by a boost in military spending that Nigeria has never achieved nor will it ever achieve - some $9 Billion is ear-marked

Our military is not broke, its underfunded... how many new projects have been announced this year alone? Does that sound broke to you?

Yes, our PEACETIME military would have trouble with conducting a long term war. But, if our security situation were to deteriorate we could feild an army that is superior to the SADF - which was the best military Africa had ever seen.

the fact remains that our PEACETIME military is superior to your WARTIME military.

the fact remains that our PEACETIME military is better funded than your WARTIME military

the fact remains that our PEACETIME military is better equipped than your WARTIME military

In times of peace we are superior, can you even comprehend what we are capable of in times of war?

and dont argue about definitions with me, clown

rev·o·lu·tion/ˌrɛvəˈluʃən/
–noun
1. an overthrow or repudiation and the thorough replacement of an established government or political system by the people governed.
2. Sociology. a radical and pervasive change in society and the social structure, esp. one made suddenly and often accompanied by violence. Compare social evolution.
3. a sudden, complete or marked change in something: the present revolution in church architecture.
4. a procedure or course, as if in a circuit, back to a starting point.


in·sur·gen·cy/ɪnˈsɜrdʒənsi
–noun, plural, -cies for 4.
1. the state or condition of being insurgent.
2. insurrection against an existing government, usually one's own, by a group not recognized as having the status of a belligerent.
3. rebellion within a group, as by members against leaders

Finally, we dealt with the insurgency, apartheid ended because of POLITICAL not MILITARY factors. ANC military formations bigger than small cells of bombers were a non-entity in South Africa. No enemy force was able to establish a permanent base in South African (and Namibian) territory after 1970. No South African towns were captured - Can Nigeria say the same?

Your argument has been weighed, measured and found wanting

Come back when you know what you are talking about


Your peacetime army is an untested army, and nothing makes an average football team that only trains at home, to be better than the average one that plays in the world cup.

From your own definitions above, a revolutionist is an insurgent who has taken over government, he is still an insurgent, just that he is a successful one that won political control of the territory.

ANC insurgents defeated South African military and established a revolutionary government of successful insurgents.

Successful Insurgency = Revolution.

A revolutionist is an insurgent. Simple
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:19pm On Sep 17, 2014
patches689:

So only 813 now?

813 airframes that don't compare to modern counterparts such as the Rafael, Eurofighter, Mirage 2000, Gripen, F-22

Wonderful

New version 1990s 813 F-16s is almost 3 times the 280 Gripens that exist.

The other older 1,200 F-16s have over 700 of them upgraded to modern versions in ALL advanced countries, no advanced country flies around in 3rd generation jets, when even Uganda is flying 4th generation.

You SA guys are classic dummies with your rubbish posts grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:27pm On Sep 17, 2014
DieVluit:

the question is simple - on what ground can South Africa's DEVELOPMENT not be compared to China's?

Do you even know what DEVELOPMENT is? Yes? No?


You are the one who does not know what development means.

Let me help you with a simple example.

China builds vehicle and aircraft engines, South Africa imports all such things.

"The composition of our bilateral trade remains a concern. Over 90% of South Africa’s top 10 exports to China are in raw materials while 100% of our top 10 imports from China are manufactured products," the minister said in a written reply to a parliamentary question by African National Congress (ANC) MP Freddie Adams."

http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/trade/2014/03/12/bilateral-trade-with-china-on-the-increase

The difference between candle flame and sunshine grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:35pm On Sep 17, 2014
Patchesagain:

And we are winning the war against poachers

No, you lost, Jacob Zuma begged Botswana to allow him transfer your Rhinos to them after SANDF was defeated by ragtag poachers grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:45pm On Sep 17, 2014
agaugust:
Same story and history for South African military that was defeated by ordinary Rhino hunters.
For Nigerian army, when the war is over, history will read that we defeated the most powerful Islamic terrorist force is Africa.
Now there is no problem about a war in Nigeria, the sweet thing for history is that we got Victory at the end.
The end of story for South Africa is the read bad news, your Soweto grandchildren will read that Rhino hunters finally defeated SANDF and your government relocated your precious Rhinos to permanent exile to Botswana grin grin
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agaugust:





Same story and history for South African military that was defeated by ordinary Rhino hunters.
For Nigerian army, when the war is over, history will read that we defeated the most powerful Islamic terrorist force is Africa.
Now there is no problem about a war in Nigeria, the sweet thing for history is that we got Victory at the end.
The end of story for South Africa is the read bad news, your Soweto grandchildren will read that Rhino hunters finally defeated SANDF and your government relocated your precious Rhinos to permanent exile to Botswana grin grin
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YOU ARE REALLY UNBELIEVABLE WITH THE LEVEL OF STUPIDITYY. I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO STOOP TO YOUR LEVEL BECAUSE YOU REALLY DO NOT SPEAK FACTS. ITS IT REALLY HOW NIGERIAN REASON? WOW! THATS EMBARRASSING.

CHIEF, THERE IS NO A SINGLE RHINO FROM SA WHICH EXILED TO BOTSWANA. THE GOVERNMENT OF BOTSWANA WAS DONATED NOT MORE THAN 20 RHINOS BY NORTH WEST PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT WHICH ALSO HAS ITS OWN RHINOS.


THERE HAD NEVER BEEN ANY WAR BETWEEN SANDF AND POACHERS, SO I DONT KNOW WHERE DOES DEFEAT COME FROM. SANDF ARRESTED HUNDREDS OF POACHERS SINCE THEIR INTERVENTION-FACT!!!

HERE UNDER ARE FACTS ABOUT NIGERIA.

-INSURGENTS GRABBED HOLD OF NIGERIAN TERRITORY, THE SIZE OF NORTHERN IRELAND. FACT!!! IT GOES DOWN THE ANNALS OF HISTORY.

AS FOR NIGERIAN PENDING VICTORY, STILL REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

#SPEAKFACTS
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 5:59pm On Sep 17, 2014
agaugust:
Same story and history for South African military that was defeated by ordinary Rhino hunters.
For Nigerian army, when the war is over, history will read that we defeated the most powerful Islamic terrorist force is Africa.
Now there is no problem about a war in Nigeria, the sweet thing for history is that we got Victory at the end.
The end of story for South Africa is the read bad news, your Soweto grandchildren will read that Rhino hunters finally defeated SANDF and your government relocated your precious Rhinos to permanent exile to Botswana grin grin
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agaugust:

IF YOU PLAY IT THAT WAY WITHOUT FACTS, I CAN DO IT A LOT BETTER THAN YOU.

BOKO HARAM VICTORIES HAS FORCED JONATHAN TO TEAM UP WITH NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES, BUT STILL WITHOUT SUCCESS.

THE ARMY IS WEAK AND IS EVEN HELPED BY CIVILIANS BUT TO NO AVAIL. BOKO HARAM IS JUST TOO STRONG FOR NAF TO DEFEAT. IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR YOU TO GIVE UP THE WAR AND TASK OTHER COUNTRIES TO HELP YOU. THE TASK IS JUST NOT EQUAL TO YOUR MEN. HEHEHEHEHE!!!!



Same story and history for South African military that was defeated by ordinary Rhino hunters.
For Nigerian army, when the war is over, history will read that we defeated the most powerful Islamic terrorist force is Africa.
Now there is no problem about a war in Nigeria, the sweet thing for history is that we got Victory at the end.
The end of story for South Africa is the read bad news, your Soweto grandchildren will read that Rhino hunters finally defeated SANDF and your government relocated your precious Rhinos to permanent exile to Botswana grin grin
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YOU ARE REALLY UNBELIEVABLE WITH THE LEVEL OF STUPIDITYY. I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO STOOP TO YOUR LEVEL BECAUSE YOU REALLY DO NOT SPEAK FACTS. ITS IT REALLY HOW NIGERIAN REASON? WOW! THATS EMBARRASSING.

CHIEF, THERE IS NO A SINGLE RHINO FROM SA WHICH EXILED TO BOTSWANA. THE GOVERNMENT OF BOTSWANA WAS DONATED NOT MORE THAN 20 RHINOS BY NORTH WEST PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT WHICH ALSO HAS ITS OWN RHINOS.


THERE HAD NEVER BEEN ANY WAR BETWEEN SANDF AND POACHERS, SO I DONT KNOW WHERE DOES DEFEAT COME FROM. SANDF ARRESTED HUNDREDS OF POACHERS SINCE THEIR INTERVENTION-FACT!!!

HERE UNDER ARE FACTS ABOUT NIGERIA.

-INSURGENTS GRABBED HOLD OF NIGERIAN TERRITORY, THE SIZE OF NORTHERN IRELAND. FACT!!! IT GOES DOWN THE ANNALS OF HISTORY.

AS FOR NIGERIAN PENDING VICTORY, STILL REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

#SPEAKFACTS
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:00pm On Sep 17, 2014
After what I've personally witnessed today. I can declare that no African nation is closer to SA in military technology.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:05pm On Sep 17, 2014
Thiza: The South African Air force (SAAF) impressed foreign military dignitaries at Tuesday’s Air Capability Demonstration (ACD) with an impressive display of firepower and synchronised manoeuvring.

It is also the only time invited dignitaries and guests are able to witness aircraft firing live weapons at close range.

Following the insertion of Pathfinders dropped from a C208 Caravan at 6,000ft in order to collect intelligence and mark targets, a Hawk fitted with a Vinten reconnaissance pod, escorted by a Gripen, obtained tactical information over the battlefield. The Gripen, having been targeted by a SAM, released flares.

Close air support was proved by a Hawk firing its 30mm Aden cannon and dropping 120kg bombs, whilst three Gripens dropped 250kg bombs on targets on the range, creating some impressively huge explosions and accompanying vibration.

In the words of Deputy Chief of the South African Air Force, Maj. Gen. Gerald Malinga, “there is no task the SAAF cannot carry out successfully.”

Every country in the world with an air force can drop bombs successfully in a testing-training location at home.

South African military keeps firing weapons at stones, sand and trees in the bush, when will your Gripen jets and Hawk jets ever fire at a real enemy that can fire back? In a battlefield where your own army is mixed with the enemy fighters inside a city with civilains, that is the true test of military skills and capability-professionalism.

Togo republic too can fire Alpha jets rockets and bombs against trees in the bush with no response from the enemy that does not exist grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:07pm On Sep 17, 2014
agaugust:

No, you lost, Jacob Zuma begged Botswana to allow him transfer your Rhinos to them after SANDF was defeated by ragtag poachers grin
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JONATHAN HAS APPEALED TO CIVILIANS TO HELP THE ARMY IN THEIR BATTLE REALISING THEIR INEFFECTIVENESS. YOUR ARMY IS TOO WEAK TO TAKE THE TASK AND SOON I KNOW IT WILL BECOME AU AND UN BUSINESS.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:10pm On Sep 17, 2014
FighterPilot:

CHIEF, THERE IS NO A SINGLE RHINO FROM SA WHICH EXILED TO BOTSWANA. THE GOVERNMENT OF BOTSWANA WAS DONATED NOT MORE THAN 20 RHINOS BY NORTH WEST PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT WHICH ALSO HAS ITS OWN RHINOS.

#SPEAKFACTS


My pleasure....


"Starting in January 2015, a conservation group will fly as many as 100 rhinos from South Africa to Botswana in an attempt to save the animal from extinction.

The relocation project comes after one of the deadliest years for rhinos on record, with more than 1,000 killed in South Africa alone, according to the South Africa Department of Environmental Affairs."

http://mashable.com/2014/08/13/south-africa-airlift-rhinos/


"(Reuters) - South Africa plans to move up to 500 rhinos from its flagship Kruger National Park to counter a wave of poaching of the animals for their horns, highly prized in newly affluent Asian countries as a sign of wealth.

Officials said on Tuesday the mission could see some of the animals shipped to nearby Botswana and Zambia as South Africa grapples with a poaching epidemic that has seen more than 630 rhinos killed so far this year, 408 of them in Kruger."


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/12/us-safrica-rhinos-idUSKBN0GC1AB20140812

[size=16pt]Proved : South African military defeated, Rhino Poachers win the war ![/size]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Troop101: 6:23pm On Sep 17, 2014
MikeZA: After what I've personally witnessed today. I can declare that no African nation is closer to SA in military technology.

o yaaaaa we can kick ashhhhhhh. I don't think those NI-apes ever experience that kind of thrilling air power demo. They will shitttttttt their pants.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:24pm On Sep 17, 2014
MikeZA: After what I've personally witnessed today. I can declare that no African nation is closer to SA in military technology.


South Africa has no military spy satellite and no dedicated ISTAR aircraft, and no amphibious armoured vehicles in year 2014 grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:26pm On Sep 17, 2014
rka1: Boko Haram: Over 400 killed in Konduga, Ngamdu as soldiers ambush insurgents
By Maina Maina on September 17, 2014@dailypostngr



Images (21)No fewer than 400 members of the dreaded Islamic sect, Boko Haram were reportedly killed in their latest clash with soldiers of the Nigerian 7 division.

The insurgents fell to the officers who ambushed them while they tried to attack Konduga local government area of Borno central senatorial district.

Locals also said, that, they attempted to attack Konduga from two directions with over 500 fighters when the military fought and defended the local government, killing over 200 before the insurgents retreated.


DailyPost also gathered that, after the attack was repelled, some of them went through the forest and were heading towards Mafa local government area when soldiers laid ambush on them again, killing over 100 while the rest escaped with bullet wounds.

In another development, over 100 sect members who came up to attack travelers along Maiduguri- Potiskum road met their Waterloo when the detachment along that route engaged them in a fierce battle, killing all of them.

http://dailypost.ng/2014/09/17/boko-haram-400-killed-konduga-ngamdu-soldiers-ambush-insurgents/

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/troops-recover-3-vehicles-1-apc-insurgents-laleye/


http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/troops-crush-terrorists-revenge-mission-at-konduga/



THESE NEWS REPORTS ALWAYS SMELL OF A RAT. WHY IS IT THAT WHEN BOKO HARAM AMBUSH SOLDIERS, THE NUMBER OF CASUALTIES ALWAYS TURNED TO BE DOWNPLAYED, BUT WHEN SOLDIERS AMBUSH THE INSUGENTS THEN THE NUMBERS ALWAYS ARE BALLOONED?

DO WE SAY THAT INSURGENTS ARE THAT INCAPABLE THAT EVEN WHEN THEY CAUGHT SOLDIERS FLAT FOOTED ONLY PICK THE FEW. PROPAGANDA NEVER WINS THE WAR. THE TRUTH WAS REVEALED WHEN SOLDIERS MUTINIED AGAINST OWN COMMANDER AFTER THEY LOST COMRADES WHICH YET AGAIN THE ARMY DOWNPLAYED. I REALLY DO NOT BELIEVE WHATEVER NONSENSE THAT COMES OUT OF NIGERIA'S MILITARY.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 6:28pm On Sep 17, 2014
agaugust:


My pleasure....


"Starting in January 2015, a conservation group will fly as many as 100 rhinos from South Africa to Botswana in an attempt to save the animal from extinction.

The relocation project comes after one of the deadliest years for rhinos on record, with more than 1,000 killed in South Africa alone, according to the South Africa Department of Environmental Affairs."

http://mashable.com/2014/08/13/south-africa-airlift-rhinos/


"(Reuters) - South Africa plans to move up to 500 rhinos from its flagship Kruger National Park to counter a wave of poaching of the animals for their horns, highly prized in newly affluent Asian countries as a sign of wealth.

Officials said on Tuesday the mission could see some of the animals shipped to nearby Botswana and Zambia as South Africa grapples with a poaching epidemic that has seen more than 630 rhinos killed so far this year, 408 of them in Kruger."


http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/12/us-safrica-rhinos-idUSKBN0GC1AB20140812

[size=16pt]Proved : South African military defeated, Rhino Poachers win the war ![/size]

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WHAT WAR? ARE YOU ON DRUGS AGAIN?

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