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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 1:44pm On Sep 17, 2014
@augustus indicate throught official wesite into which areas the Nigerian Special Forces Brigade is specialising in, selection process, composition, training, weapons and Organogram not photos that are general and why the whole President pronounced on a need for a Special Forces Brigade and COIN concept is not a mono term applicable to every conflict.....I know Special Boat section which was fprmed two years ago and trained by British SAS AND WHY THE PRESIDENT DECIDE TO ANNOUNCE?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:48pm On Sep 17, 2014
agaugust:

Lol, you SA mofos said NAF has no Super Tucano, but now that Su-30 Flanker arrived for NAF, you say it was the Tucano that arrived. LOL, NAF will k.ill South Africans with hypertension now o !

Dude, NAF has ALL FOUR ....Super Tucano, Su-30 Flanker, JF-17 Thunder, Mi-35M Hind E.

Nigeria has made world history with the fastest rise of air power by any air force in the world at any point in time, that is the power of Nigeria, shocking the world with transformation at supersonic speed !

Now we shall soon invade South Africa, sink your navy from the air, sh.oot down your whole airforce, r.ape your army from the skies, enter your country, ship away 10,000 most beautiful South African girls aged 18 years to 22 years in their 'flowering age' with arrow pointed 'double mangoes' and well positioned heavy Southie corn-eating enlarged rear bumpers, all v.irgins, all clean after HIV tests to guarantee they have NEVER been touched by your ugly South African men.

We gonna have plenty of free fun in Lagos and South Africa will no longer be a republic but now an annexed 37th state/province of Nigeria to be ruled by a Nigerian governor.....and your companies and citizens will pay tax and mineral mining royalties to Abuja every month until we milk you dry.

@Fighter Pilot will be shining my boots, @Andrewza will be washing my camo uniform, @Patches will be scrubbing my toilet and flushing my sh1t daily....you all gonna work without pay, after all I will be feeding you and accommodating you free in my servants quarters in Abuja Maitama district .

South Africans have become prisoners of the Su-30 Flanker Nation Nigeria !


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Nigeria doesn't have:

-JF-17s
Su-30s
Tucano
T-72

So we are completely unconcerned by your "unicorn" military

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 1:49pm On Sep 17, 2014
Thiza: @augustus indicate throught official wesite into which areas the Nigerian Special Forces Brigade is specialising in, selection process, composition, training, weapons and Organogram not photos that are general and why the whole President pronounced on a need for a Special Forces Brigade and COIN concept is not a mono term applicable to every conflict.....I know Special Boat section which was fprmed two years ago and trained by British SAS AND WHY THE PRESIDENT DECIDE TO ANNOUNCE?


@THIZA-MY BROTHER, NIGERIAN SPECIAL OPERATIONS ARE STILL INFANTS IN THE LEAGUES OF SPECIAL FORCES IN THE WORLD. HENCE, THE MOST INEXPERIENCED IN THE WHOLE OF AFRICA. IT IS NOT A LIE, IT IS AS TRUE AS A FACT!!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 1:52pm On Sep 17, 2014
South AFrican Special Forces have been fighting a war since 1975 not piece meal operations in Sierra Leone against rag tag armies...The South African Special Forces Brigade is the only Special Forces unit of the South African National Defence Force (SANDF).

South Africa established a Special Forces capability in 1968 in line with international military trends. Initial planning and formation occurs, including studies of and visits to foreign Special Forces, formulation of appropriate structures and techniques for an African context, and formation and training of a core group of founder members. The capability realized in 1972 with the establishment of 1 Reconnaissance Commando at the Infantry School at Oudtshoorn.

The 1 Reconnaissance Commando was the first South African Special Forces unit, founded by General Fritz Loots - the founder of the South African Special Forces, and the first General Officer Commanding of the South African Special Forces. He appointed 12 qualified paratroopers (known as "The Dirty Dozen"wink as the founder members. Included in these 12 paratroopers was Jan Breytenbach, who was placed in command of the Founder Members by General Loots.

The South African Special Forces played a significant role in the country's 30 year long border war in Namibia and Angola.

The South African Special Forces Brigade's current structure is the result of a series of reorganizations, as well as rationalization and integration between 1992 and 1996. The close-knit community is organised as a “brigade”, consisting of a headquarters, a school, two regiments and a logistics unit. Both regiments are airborne qualified, with one specializing on seaward operations and the other landward.

The Brigade is directly under the command of the Joint Operations Division of the SANDF, and unlike other similar forces worldwide, is not a part of the South African Army nor the South African Navy .

Operations 1973–94 SADF Operations

Member of the South African Special Forces performing a ceremonial parachute jump The South African "Recces" were deployed to many local hot spots during the late 1970s and early 1980s, particularly Angola.

The main enemy then was South West Africa’s People Organization whose armed wing PLAN, was a guerrilla organization fighting for an independent Namibia.

One of the "Recces"' most effective operations came in 1982: Operation Mebos penetrated deep into Angola and destroyed the SWAPO Headquarters. In Operation Askari, in the winter of 1984, the "Recces" cut off almost all supply lines to and from the SWAPO in Angola. In 1985, a "Recce" team undertook the controversial Operation Cabinda, a failed attempt to sabotage Angolan oil installations run by Gulf Oil.

In early summer of 1985, another "Recce" team under the command of SADF Captain Andre Diedericks crossed into Angola's Cuando Cubango province, and with UNITA's help, protection and escort was secretly deployed around Menongue area. The team had at their disposal the 9K31 “Strela-1” AA system manned and operated by the team members. Team’s mission was to carry out covert combat operations, code names "Catamaran 1," "Catamaran 2" and "Cerberus" with the goal to disrupt air traffic in Cuando Cubango province by shooting down air transports, combat aircraft and gunships using the AA system.

On 11 June 1985, roughly 80 km from Menongue, the team shot down an Angolan airplane, a light utility aircraft, Britten-Norman BN-2 “Islander”. The "Islander", en route from Menongue to Cuito Cuanavale with a crew of 2 and 5 passengers was also carrying 69 million kwanzas (Angola’s currency), several months of salary for FAPLA’s 16th Brigade’s personnel based in Cuito Cuanavale. When the "Islander" fell to the ground the money was stolen and the remains of the dead passengers had been pillaged by UNITA soldiers attached to protect the "Recce" team. On 25 November 1985, the same "Recce" team had also shot down an “Aeroflot” Antonov AN-12, cargo airplane. The AN-12 transport en route from Cuito Cuanavale to Luanda carrying 8 crew members and 13 passengers crashed approximately 43 km south-east of Menongue. All people on board (twelve Soviet and nine Angolan nationals) died in the crash.

@AUGUSTUS DISPLAY NIGERIAN HISTORICAL OPERATIONS
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 1:55pm On Sep 17, 2014
@AUGUSTUS CHECK THIS OFFICIAL WEBSITE OF THE SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES BRIGADE AND SHALL BE GLAD AND VERY APPRECIATING IF YOU CAN POST THE NIGERIAN ONE...LETS TALK ABOUT FACTS NOT OPINIONS

https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEEQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.recce.co.za%2F&ei=P4QZVIHjFK_G7Aa0wYDoDQ&usg=AFQjCNFmhsyn3yoY3gorrSveddxEcnwU6Q
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 1:58pm On Sep 17, 2014
@AUGUSTUS THESE OPERATORS ARE STILL ACTIVE AND TRAINING THE FUTURE BATCH OF RECCES AND ALSO ACTIVE IN ADVISING...THEY ARE RETIRED BUT STILL ACTIVE

South African Special Forces have no equals

In June 1984 the South African port city of Cape Town held a secret meeting, attended by U.S. Assistant Secretary for African Affairs, Mr. Crocker, Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of South Africa Pieter Botha and George Savimbi, leader of the National Union for Total Independence of Angola (UNITA). It was after this secret meeting with SA intelligence UNITA has stepped up armed struggle against Angola.

The attack on the Soviet ships

In the first place South African security forces have decided to cut the sea channels of military and other supplies to Angola from the Soviet Union and Cuba. A major port Namib, near the city of Menongue has been attacked.
That's where the South African frogmen attacked first Soviet ships.

By the summer of 1986 the Angolan government troops came into operation in the province of Moxico. A base for offensive was the city connected with the port Namib by railway. At the same time to the port arrived three ships to supply offensive: at the beginning of June the Cuban vessel "Havana" with a cargo of food and equipment, and the Soviet cargo ships "Captain Chirkov" and "Captain Vislobokov." On shipboards was about 20 thousand of ammunition.

In the evening 5 June just hours before the arrival of "Captain Vislobokov" in the roads of Namib suddenly appeared dilapidated trawler under the Japanese flag. The next morning she quietly disappeared. Early in the morning powerful explosions occurred on the Cuban and Soviet ships and later bombs exploded on the fuel base "Sonagol."

Many years later the author learned the details of this diversion during his trip to South Africa from four directly involved in this operation participants. But let us speak about this meeting later.

The trawler "Japanese" delivered to the port three groups of frogmen-saboteurs, six people each, with full equipment. Late at night they went under the water to their targets. The first group was to destroy the Soviet and Cuban transports, and the second, apparently, was to blow up a railway bridge, cutting off communication with the port and the third, having made almost four miles under water, came to the shore fuel base "Sonagol." There it installed five RPG-5 with self-killers, targeting the fuel tanks and pumping stations. At 5 am one after the other three explosions occurred on "Captain Vislobokov." Fortunately, there were no casualties. It is surprising that no ammunition detonated.

Along with the explosion on "Vislobokov" thundered volleys of grenades at the fuel base "Sonagol." Four fuel tanks and pumping stations were destroyed. Mines also exploded under the transmission towers and on the railroad. Lights went out in the city and transport service with the port was interrupted.

Soon came the turn of "Chirkov": onboard blew up three out of four minutes. Her team, being helping the crew of "Vislobokov" rushed to save her own ship. Fortunately, there were no injuries, no ammunition detonated. If this had happened on both transports the port was completely ruined. The least fortunate was "Havana": all four installed mines played havoc with the bottom and by 10 am the boat overturned. The crew had time to evacuate. Soviet sailors managed to keep their "two captains" afloat.
By order of the then Premier Ryzhkov (Supreme Commander in Chief Gorbachev was at this time in Poland), the Navy immediately sent to the port of Namib a group of Soviet military specialists. Black Sea Fleet airlifted in Angola a group of frogmen. They were assigned the task to ensure the safety of our ships during repair work and at the same time to remove unexploded mines found, defused them and determine whose they were
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How rescued "two captains"

By the detachment of Soviet frogmen who arrived in Angola late in the evening on June 8 commanded 2nd Rank Captain Yuriy Plyachenko. He was the first to go under the water and look at the remaining mines that were attached to the bottoms of our freighters. Then he gave the order to collect the remnants of exploded ships.
For two days the ships unloaded ammunition. The mines were made of titanium alloy. It was very high-tech production. Their inventors did their best to defuse the mines was not possible. I had to look for unconventional ways. One of the mines was neutralized by small counter explosion. It broke away from the hull and exploded on the ground. But to defuse the second mine they had to spend 36 days. Surprisingly, a little seashell helped the frogmen. It somehow blocked the pin, which activated an explosive mechanism. It was impossible to establish who has assembled the mine: the parts were from different countries - Japan, England and Holland. The found only “DD" marking and serial number 13 on the mine.

On August 27 renovated "Captain Chirkov" arrived in Odessa and "Captain Vislobokov" after repairs in Luanda headed for Spain. For the results of the unprecedented operation three officers from Plyachenko’s group have been awarded the Red Star, and the rest - with medals "For Distinction in Military Service." The sunken in the harbor "Havana", in the holds of which remained a large number of projectiles caliber 162 mm was surfaced by the Cuban team of rescuers in the spring 1989. But then it was decided not to restore the ship it was dangerous because of the possibility of detonation of munitions. "Havana" was taken far out to sea and sunk.
Immediately after the attack an international scandal burst out. South Africa categorically denied any involvement in the sabotage. A little later, our investigation found that the operation was carried out the men of the fourth unit of "Rekkiz" commandos, specializing in maritime operations based in Langebane (Cape Province). They came to the area of Luanda on a "Daphne" submarine and using light diving equipment, entered the harbor and mined the ships. According to some reports, the saboteurs used equipment obtained from the Italian "Space" company and delivered via Israel.

After the attack it was decided to put frogmen on those ships that call at African ports.
Special Forces "closed book"

Special units of the armed forces of South Africa are among the least known and most private in the world. Their training, application, activities and operations remained secret for many years. This is explained by the fact that South Africa as a state of "apartheid" a long time was in international isolation and military ties of the South African Defense Force (SADF) with other countries was limited. Meanwhile, perhaps because of this isolation and lack of real military aid from the outside and uninterrupted war in the armed forces of South Africa appeared unique special units, notably reconnaissance commandos. They were a deeply specialized reconnaissance and sabotage units capable for a long time to act in isolation from the main forces in the enemy’s territory often relying only on ourselves. Commandos of the Defense Force of South Africa not only developed their own extremely effective and "ruthless" system of selection and training but also enriched tactics by specific techniques and modes of action. From a professional point of view, their experience is invaluable and unique.

For more than twenty years since its foundation the SA reconnaissance commandos were on full alert, they had dozens of secret special operations in the territory and coastal waters of Angola, Namibia, Mozambique, Tanzania and other African countries, and at the same time they remained deep secret. Among the units of special forces of South Africa stands 4th (naval) recon commandos. Famous French frogmen detachment of "Hubert", Israeli naval commandos from "Shayetet-13", and the U.S. SEAL could be proud of many of the operations carried out by its soldiers. SA frogmen are the oldest formal unit among the special forces of South Africa. It is believed that they trace their history in 1941 with the founding of the Naval School of Diving in the port city of Cape Town. The school staff trained specialists for South African Navy rescue service who took part in the hostilities of World War II. Divers of the South African Navy participated in some operations of allied forces in the Mediterranean region. However, after the end of the war SA units of naval divers were disbanded "as unnecessary." The service came almost in full decline and by early 1955 the Navy had only one skilled frogman.

The beginning of the revival of units of the South African Navy divers dates to September 1955, when South Africa organized the first in the first postwar period courses of Navy divers. July 1, 1957 in the city of Simons Town was re-opened diving school with a staff of 5 people and a small set of equipment that was constantly replenished.

Formally, the Special Forces of the SA Defense Force were created October 1, 1972 based on an infantry school in Oudtshoorn. There the three officers who had experience in conducting special operations in Namibia and Rhodesia, have formed the first special group, which was later known as the 1st recon commandos (1-st Reconnaissance Commando) or abbreviated Recce.

As later recalled one of the founders of the South African Special Forces Jan Breytenbah, military commanders faced with great difficulties. The fact is that since the establishment of Special Forces in the SA Army, it has been given "a very high standard", i.e. they formulated very high demands to future soldiers of Special Forces. In this case, the command of Special Forces has operated up to principle: it is better to train a reliable combat swimmer from the experienced scout or paratrooper than the outstanding rescue swimmer turn into a mediocre frogman.

As a result in 1977 was formed 4-th Reconnaissance Commando, whose task was the preparation and conduct of marine special operations, including for the organization of sabotage in the neighboring countries through which passed supplies from the Soviet Union and Cuba with arms, military equipment and food for Angolan Army (MPLA), the 40 000 Cuban Expeditionary Force, and the ANC structures ("Umkhonto we Sizwe" - "Spear of the Nation"wink. In addition, the group was charged with reconnoitering of the Angolan Navy and the group of Soviet warships in the ports of Angola and Mozambique and supplying weapons and special means for "special operations" to armed opposition in Angola and Mozambique (UVITA and RENAMO),.
The base was located in Langebaane on the west coast of South Africa, near Cape Town. Marine commandos had at their disposal high-speed vessels and rubber boats. In the absence of training experience and the relevant personnel at that time the group was formed gradually. Fully it took shape in the early 80's, having in its composition combat units capable of performing secret amphibious operations, several groups of frogmen-saboteurs, the training center and maintenance unit. Of all the Special Forces these commandos were the most closed in terms of structure, size, practical use, training and special operations.

In 1995 within the South African National Defense Force was created a special purposes brigade based on the commando reconnaissance units. It included the best airmobile and underwater commando units of ex-Special Forces in South Africa. Particular attention was paid to the naval commandos - one of the most unique and effective among reconnaissance commando of SA Defense Force, accounting for dozens of successful and still not declassified operations off the coast of Angola, Mozambique and even Tanzania.

Selection and training of SA naval commandos

All potential recruits are volunteers. SA commandos accepted only those who have passed the strictest initial selection, medical examination and psychological tests, tests on the "program of the armed forces" and, of course, a swimming test. Only then began the most important: a multistep process of physical and psychological screening in conditions close to the field. Tests on the "program of the armed forces" are fairly trivial tests that had to go through all the candidates to the Army and marine commandos.

Up to 30 percent of candidates are eliminated at the preliminary stage. The rest of them are granted the status of "special purpose units a receptee". To achieve the status of "special purpose units rookie" and then "special purpose units operator ", ie a full-fledged Special Forces soldier, they have to go through a multi-course qualifying, and then through no less difficult a special course.

The first stage of selection, which is one of the most complicated in comparison with similar groups in the world, lasts three days and includes heavy march-throws and overcoming of water obstacles. Physical activity is such that not everyone is able to withstand them. It "shakes the whole soul" from the rookie, as the saying goes. Those who passed up it to the end described it as "ruthless test."

All the candidates who passed the preliminary stage again shall undergo very high in comparison with the requirements of the Army physical fitness assessment. They must manage in six hour to overcome the 30-kilometer race in full equipment: with the standard rifle ammunition, camouflage clothing and regular 30-pound backpack, usually full of sand.

Then 45 minutes to run an 8-kilometer distance, carrying a full-time rifle. Also, wrung from the floor with their fists at least 40 times, 8 times to catch up on the bar and do not less than 75 sit-ups without a break. And in the end of the test swim 50 meters without crediting time.

The emphasis is on psychological training. During a special test several people subject the candidates to "cross examine". And since South Africa's historically a very painful issue is the relationship of people with different skin colors, psychological compatibility of different races receive special attention. Questions can be different from the innocuous ("Do you love your children and your parents?", "Are you afraid of the dark?"wink and frankly provocative, "How would you react to what your family had a child with different skin color?", "Would you rescue a drowning man if he is suspected in a bloody murder?" etc. The purpose of these tests is creating a real psychological portrait of the candidate.

How hard it was to pass a training course, says the following fact: after a successful qualifying courses conducted from three hundred and twenty candidates remained twenty-nine. Of these, more than half were not citizens of South Africa, but many were from other elite units for special purposes, in particular, from Rhodesia.
This is followed by a two-week phase, during which the candidate performs the exercises and firing practice. This stage is replaced by a two-week orientation course in the desert. Despite the fact that during this phase, the candidate undergoes a real risk of dying from the bite of venomous snakes, in the claws of wild animals, in the jaws of a crocodile or a shark (a lot of cases observed), the main task of the test is to test the ability of the candidate to navigate in extreme conditions.

This is followed by stage, called "Bushkraft", that is learning the fighting in the bush (the bush of Africa). During learning the movement in the savanna, methods of concealment and ambushes they constantly screen candidates. However, at this stage has already begun training. After two weeks, they get weapons and start learning how to kill a bull or a lion, how to catch a snake. They are taught to seek out and foul the trail, guided by a map and without it, to withstand attack of a shark or to escape from a crocodile. Candidates who have undergone this not quite the usual training enter into a contract for three years. Most of them serve two terms.

The descendants of the Boers

Another special unit of South Africa not as widely known as SAS or "Alpha", "Green Berets" or DELTA is RECCE, a special intelligence unit of South Africa. It obtained the highest level of training and also has very good results for tasks behind enemy lines during the fighting.

One of the first major RECCE’s diversions is the operation code-named "Savannah" with 18 commandos. They seriously damaged in several places the railway on which the ore was transported from Zaire to Angola. To accomplish this task the force was divided into three groups of six people each. After the assignment, each group independently emerged in the area of evacuation. One of them was ambushed by Cuban troops, one commando was killed and three wounded. However, none of the RECCE men was captured. Departing from the chase the commandos walked more than 170 kilometers of desert and jungle and had been successfully evacuated.
Later, when Cuban pilots entered into the war the RECCE soldiers began to take missiles "Stinger" on them. Very often they set up ambushes near aerodromes, which based Angolan aircraft. Once they managed to shoot down on the rise two MiG in a row. But they could not fix success because of the organized search for saboteurs. Here, however, the men went to the trick. The fact is that in the group there were only black scouts, even though it was rare for Special Forces in South Africa. Dressed in the form of the enemy they hid the launchers and took part in their own quest.
The team that goes to the operations consists of from two to twelve people. As a rule, the duration of the operation is from two days to several weeks. In the history of the group was a case where in Angola, one group of eight people acted in the rear about two months and completely autonomous. The group not only carried out reconnaissance and corrected artillery strikes, but also set industrial sabotage and fought against the enemy. Very high in disguise training enables it to act occasionally in a few dozen meters from the enemy and remain undetected. Often the fighters disguised themselves in the form of enemy soldiers.

By the way, the RECCE soldiers had to fight against the regular army of Angola, trained by Soviet specialists, and with the Cuban military units. It also fought against a group of North Korean Special Forces. It is known that one of the "meetings" with them took place in 1987 in the valley of Kambia. The SA group faced with fifteen Koreans. Subsequently, one of the former RECCE fighters recalled "All decide seconds: who will react faster and open fire. As a result, Koreans lost eight men killed, and we are only two. However, the group was "blown up" and we had to hastily retreat." At the end of the last century the staffing structure and the number of the RECCE units has changed. Based on them have been deployed reconnaissance regiments. Later they had been transformed into a parachute brigade. They are now united in a brigade of special purpose, but each of its member regiment has its original trend. In particular, the motto of a regiment "We do not fear anyone except God" has not changed since the foundation of RECCE.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 2:00pm On Sep 17, 2014
@AUGUSTUS I DONT NEED YOUR MISPLACED OPINION ONLY FACTS SHALL SETTLE THE DEBATE.....BRING FACTS AND OFFICIAL WEBSITE NOT SOME FLABBARGASTING OPINIONS
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:08pm On Sep 17, 2014
agaugust:

Mumu, President Jonathan wants to establish another special forces specially assigned for anti-Boko Haram war and any COIN war.

How can a 150 year old Nigerian army have no special forces? Even the army of Togo republic have special forces.

We have naval special forces SBS equal to the British SBS, we have NAF SF equal to the British SAS, we have NA SF equal to the British Army SF. They are the ones that k.illed the original Shekau inside his own Boko Haram stronghold forest camp around about 2 years ago.

Nigerian special forces fought in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Niger Delta war, and now in Boko Haram war.

We have a bigger number of special forces than South Africa, and we have lots of fresh war experience, plus overseas training with US Navy Seals, Israeli SF, Pakistani SF, Ukranian SF, in addition to our domestic military academy training.

Look, if you want to see Nigerian special forces, click on the weblink below, over 100 photos

https://www.nairaland.com/1386870/african-militaries-security-services-strictly

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Your military is not 150 years old

Your units are in no way comparable to those units

Your units are in no way comparable to our own either

Launch an attack from a submarine, or have 500km deeprecon patrols behind enemy lines as SOP and then you can get back to us.

We have SF who jump out of planes in the middle of the ocean and randevouz with submarines. You are so outclassed its not even a joke.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:28pm On Sep 17, 2014
[size=15pt]SAAF sets a reminder as to whom is the best in Sub-Saharan Africa
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Following the insertion of Pathfinders dropped from a C208 Caravan at 6,000ft in order to collect intelligence and mark targets, a Hawk fitted with a Vinten reconnaissance pod, escorted by a Gripen, obtained tactical information over the battlefield. The Gripen, having been targeted by a SAM, released flares.

Various simulated exercises, including a South African Army element, comprised scenarios ranging from mortar attacks, air supply drops and troop insertions. A low-level supply drop by a C-130 Hercules was followed by two Gripens and a Hawk performed a 2v1 dogfight.

Oryx medium-transport helicopters demonstrated water bombing with Bambi buckets and continuously dropped off and picked up troops while an Agusta A109 Light Utility Helicopter performed observation and co-ordination of ground force duties.

With a BK-117 performing an ‘emergency landing’ after the pilot was hit by ground fire, a combat Search & Rescue scenario was enacted. The ensuing mock battle included the firing of 81mm motors, with Oryx helicopters inserting and extracting troops whilst two Rooivalk attack helicopters provided covering fire with 20mm cannon and 70mm FFAR rockets.

Close air support was proved by a Hawk firing its 30mm Aden cannon and dropping 120kg bombs, whilst three Gripens dropped 250kg bombs on targets on the range, creating some impressively huge explosions and accompanying vibrations.

-from DefenceWeb

[size=15pt]Augugbgugug talks about imaginary fighter jets
We talk about what we can actually do [/size]

cool
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:37pm On Sep 17, 2014
So, the Nigerian government has confirmed that it owns the money confiscated in South Africa.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/fg-defends-9-3m-cash-seized-s-africa-releases-data-transaction/

Who was the emotional debater the rejected the story of these people working with Nigerian intelligentsia? So much for trying to buy South African weapons undercover. So much for "having everything SA has".
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:38pm On Sep 17, 2014
Now the question is how intelligent is Nigerian intelligentsia if they are busted by a low-level customs setup at Lanseria? Hmmm?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:40pm On Sep 17, 2014
•Leased aircraft released to Nigerian govt • Oritsejafor, others clarify ownership of private jet
• Military, Boko Haram clash in Konduga

Senator Iroegbu and Paul Obi
Following the admission by the Nigerian government that the $9.3 million cash, which was seized by South African customs officials, was legitimate and had the stamp of approval of the Nigerian intelligence community, the federal government has opened diplomatic talks with the South African government to reach an amicable resolution of the incident, THISDAY has learnt.

The South African police had on Monday said they had launched an investigation, following the seizure of the $9.3 million cash found stashed in the luggage of two Nigerians and an Israeli who had flown into Johannesburg’s Lanseria Airport in a private aircraft.


The money, which was meant for the procurement of arms, was detained and passed on to the South African central bank, because it was undisclosed, undeclared and above the prescribed legal limit for bringing cash into the country, the country’s customs officials explained.

However, a source from the presidency, who disclosed the government-to-government talks yesterday to some select journalists, also said the federal government had released data and documents on the arms deal to the South African authorities.
According to the source, “The bi-focal diplomatic talks with South Africa are at the governmental level and exchanges by intelligence services of the two nations.”

The source said following the preliminary diplomatic talks, the Bombardier Challenger aircraft, with US registration N808HG, might have been released to the Nigerian government pending the conclusion of a comprehensive investigation by the South African government.

It was further revealed that the high level discussion also covered sharing of vital security information to prove that the deal was legitimate and necessary.
The government’s position was said to have been strengthened by the fact that findings revealed that the South African government had only faulted the non-declaration of the cash by the two Nigerian passengers and the Israeli.

Speaking on the efforts being made so far to resolve the incident, the source said: “Nigeria and South Africa are getting closer to a diplomatic resolution of the incident over the $9.3 million cash. The two nations have opened up discussions.

“The federal government has submitted relevant data and documents on the arms transaction to South Africa and insisted that the transaction was legitimate.


“It also clarified that the funds were not laundered or smuggled for any covert activites. No person will be that audacious to fly into a country in a chartered jet with such a huge amount of cash.

“The technical details on security matters, which necessitated the desk had been availed to South Africa for screening, but a procedural error occurred.”
Based on initial scrutiny of the documents, the source disclosed that the Challenger aircraft has been released to the Nigerian government, pending the conclusion of a full-scale investigation by South Africa.

The source further provided clarification on why South Africa impounded the cash, saying: “There was a procedural error at the airport, the team did not declare the $9.3 million contrary to the aviation and customs laws in South Africa.

“So there was an oversight on the part of the delegation that went to complete the transaction. Nigeria is trying to complete the formalities and we are confident that the cash will be released for the purpose it was meant for.”

He maintained that the movement of cash for the strategic purchase of security equipment by the intelligence service is not new, adding, “It is a global trend. The FBI, KGB, MOSSAD and others do it.”

THISDAY further learnt that the ammunition, which was being procured for the immediate prosecution of the war against Boko Haram, included arms and a military helicopter, and was approved by an intelligence office close to the presidency.

An official in the office informed THISDAY that the matter would soon be resolved and that the decision to use cash instead of routing it through the banking system stemmed from the urgency of the transaction.

He said the purchase of arms from countries like the US and other Western nations often take much longer because of compliance issues.

As a result, certain security organisations resort to the use of cash for the purchase of ammunition from certain defence equipment manufacturers to speed up the process.


Meanwhile, a news report linking the President of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN), Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, with the aircraft was clarified by the cleric yesterday.

In a statement by his aide, Bayo Adewoye, Oritsejafor admitted that he owned some residual interest in the company, Eagle Air, but said he was not the operator of the aircraft.

In the statement, the CAN president said: “The Word of Life Bible Church has been made aware of the recent media interest regarding an aircraft (Bombardier Challenger 600, Registration No N808HG) owned by The Company Eagle Air in which our Pastor, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, holds a residual interest.

“We can confirm that although he holds an interest in Eagle Air, the aircraft in question is not operated by Pastor Oritsejafor.

The aircraft owned by Eagle Air Company, which has confirmed that since 2nd August 2014, the aircraft has been leased to and is operated by Green Coast Produce Limited.”


He explained that this is standard practice in the industry and advised that any and all enquiries in respect of the day-to-day operations of this aircraft should be directed to the management of Green Coast Produce Limited.
He added that he would be happy to help the authorities with any enquiries. ...

More...http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/-9-3m-traced-to-intelligence-agency-as-nigeria-s-africa-open-talks-on-seized-cash/189231/
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:55pm On Sep 17, 2014
Here's a rare picture. SAAF and Rhodesian air force bombing in Angola.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:08pm On Sep 17, 2014
SAAF doing what they do in Angola. What experience does the NAF have?

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:14pm On Sep 17, 2014
Our Gripiddy grip. "Wot it do"

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:17pm On Sep 17, 2014
That dude.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:21pm On Sep 17, 2014
WWII logbook entry. "Clare Scott's granddad's". Note the last entry: dual dive bombing wink.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:23pm On Sep 17, 2014
A COUNTRY THAT HAS THE BEST CIVIL AND BUILDING ENGINEERS IN AFRICA KILLED MORE THAN 67 SOUTH AFRICANS WITH AN AMATURE STRUCTURE WHICH COLLAPSED AND CLAIM LIVES OF BREADWINNERS. WHY IS IT THAT SOUTH AFRICANS WITH THEIR SECOND DULLEST BRAINS ALWAYS BUILD MORE SECURE BUILDINGS THAT ENSURE SAFETY OF GOOD STANDARDS TO ITS OCCUPANTS?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:25pm On Sep 17, 2014
1950. Dornier 27. Y'all know what time it is. That's it right thurrrr. I love this photo.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:29pm On Sep 17, 2014
Msauza: A COUNTRY THAT HAS THE BEST CIVIL AND BUILDING ENGINEERS IN AFRICA KILLED MORE THAN 67 SOUTH AFRICANS WITH AN AMATURE STRUCTURE WHICH COLLAPSED AND CLAIM LIVES OF BREADWINNERS. WHY IS IT THAT SOUTH AFRICANS WITH THEIR SECOND DULLEST BRAINS ALWAYS BUILD MORE SECURE BUILDINGS THAT ENSURE SAFETY OF GOOD STANDARDS TO ITS OCCUPANTS?

Good question.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:35pm On Sep 17, 2014
Patrolling ze wotters. WWII. Catalina.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:39pm On Sep 17, 2014
Ze capshon says:"In 1939, South Africa was ill-prepared for large-scale, prolonged warfare.Within two years she was able to supply armaments and other war supplies to her own troops in the field, as well as to the armed forces of other Allied countries".

To everyone talking about the SANDF being underfunded (during times of peace wink ), take note.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 3:40pm On Sep 17, 2014
Msauza: A COUNTRY THAT HAS THE BEST CIVIL AND BUILDING ENGINEERS IN AFRICA KILLED MORE THAN 67 SOUTH AFRICANS WITH AN AMATURE STRUCTURE WHICH COLLAPSED AND CLAIM LIVES OF BREADWINNERS. WHY IS IT THAT SOUTH AFRICANS WITH THEIR SECOND DULLEST BRAINS ALWAYS BUILD MORE SECURE BUILDINGS THAT ENSURE SAFETY OF GOOD STANDARDS TO ITS OCCUPANTS?


WOW!!!! THAT WAS SAD NEWS INDEED. I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT NIGERIANS WITH THE KIND OF EDUCATION PURPORTED TO BE THE BEST BY @AGAUGUST AND HIS BUDDIES CAN EVER PRODUCE SUCH A WEAK STRUCTURE OF BUILDING WHICH COLLAPSED AS A RESULT OF BEING OVERBURDENNED BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF EXTRA FLOORS. WHAT KIND OF EDUCATION DO NIGERIAN TRAINED ENGINEERS RECEIVE IF THEY ALL HAVE THE AUDACITY TO CRITISIZE OURS?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:41pm On Sep 17, 2014
Armoured vehicles have always been our thing. This is at El Gumu where we captured an enemy outpost.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:43pm On Sep 17, 2014
FighterPilot:


WOW!!!! THAT WAS SAD NEWS INDEED. I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT NIGERIANS WITH THE KIND OF EDUCATION PURPORTED TO BE THE BEST BY @AGAUGUST AND HIS BUDDIES CAN EVER PRODUCE SUCH A WEAK STRUCTURE OF BUILDING WHICH COLLAPSED

The cause of all this is the same thing that has rendered their military effectively toothless. Corruption. Such a conspicuous building. How could they just pile on additional floors just like that?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:45pm On Sep 17, 2014
1st S.A. Division columns cross the rolling grasslands during their advance to into Abyssinia. WWII

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Helghast: 3:47pm On Sep 17, 2014
Thiza: The South African Air force (SAAF) impressed foreign military dignitaries at Tuesday’s Air Capability Demonstration (ACD) with an impressive display of firepower and synchronised manoeuvring.

The air power display is held twice a year at the Roodewal weapons range outside Polokwane in Limpopo. The event provides the SAAF with an opportunity to demonstrate its operational capabilities, including co-operation with the others arms of the South African National Defence Force (SANDF). Ancillary to the ACD was the requirement to set up a temporary airbase at the weapons range.

It is also the only time invited dignitaries and guests are able to witness aircraft firing live weapons at close range.

The Air Force timed the event to take place on the day prior to the official opening of the eighth biennial Africa Aerospace and Defence (AAD) exhibition taking place at AFB Waterkloof from 17 to 20 September. According to Chief of the Air Force, Lt. Gen. Fabian Msimang, the ACD provided the various international air force chiefs visiting AAD with an “intimate gathering” at which to showcase the flexible military capabilities of the SAAF. Senior SANDF members of the National Security Program were also in attendance.

What made this ACD event particularly interesting was that it was timed to coincide with dusk, demonstrating the Air Force’s ability to operate at any time of the day or night.

Proceedings commenced with introductory speeches and background information, followed by 80 minutes of incredible noise caused by the live firing of rockets, mortars, cannon, machine guns and the dropping of bombs, all with the continuous clatter of rotor blades overhead.

Following the insertion of Pathfinders dropped from a C208 Caravan at 6,000ft in order to collect intelligence and mark targets, a Hawk fitted with a Vinten reconnaissance pod, escorted by a Gripen, obtained tactical information over the battlefield. The Gripen, having been targeted by a SAM, released flares.

Various simulated exercises, including a South African Army element, comprised scenarios ranging from mortar attacks, air supply drops and troop insertions. A low-level supply drop by a C-130 Hercules was followed by two Gripens and a Hawk performed a 2v1 dogfight.

Oryx medium-transport helicopters demonstrated water bombing with Bambi buckets and continuously dropped off and picked up troops while an Agusta A109 Light Utility Helicopter performed observation and co-ordination of ground force duties.

With a BK-117 performing an ‘emergency landing’ after the pilot was hit by ground fire, a combat Search & Rescue scenario was enacted. The ensuing mock battle included the firing of 81mm motors, with Oryx helicopters inserting and extracting troops whilst two Rooivalk attack helicopters provided covering fire with 20mm cannon and 70mm FFAR rockets.

Close air support was proved by a Hawk firing its 30mm Aden cannon and dropping 120kg bombs, whilst three Gripens dropped 250kg bombs on targets on the range, creating some impressively huge explosions and accompanying vibrations.

The demonstration concluded with a flypast by all the participants, with flares being fired from the Hercules, Gripen and Oryx.

The ACD clearly achieved its aim. Many of the senior foreign military dignitaries interviewed by defenceWeb afterwards commented on how impressed they were with the coordination, command & control and professionalism of the SAAF.

In the words of Deputy Chief of the South African Air Force, Maj. Gen. Gerald Malinga, “there is no task the SAAF cannot carry out
successfully.”

S.A Pathfinders Parachuting "Behind enemy lines"

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:47pm On Sep 17, 2014
It is what it is y'all. Real experience. SA 1st infantry division. East Africa. WWII. Wot it do.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:51pm On Sep 17, 2014
Real experience. At fort Mega. Ethiopia.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by kikuyu1(m): 4:01pm On Sep 17, 2014
Many of you admire the Israelis and wish your forces could be more like them-if only you knew!
Today is the first anniversary of their Westgate false flag:
False flag (or black flag) describes covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by entities, groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them. Operations carried out during peace-time by civilian organizations, as well as covert government agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek to hide the real organization behind an operation. Geraint Hughes uses the term to refer to those acts carried out by "military or security force personnel, which are then blamed on terrorists."[1]

Here's the most cited Israeli false flag:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Hoping of course the Egyptians get hammered by the US. Luckily the ship and the sailors just refused to die.

So that you appreciate just how inhuman these Israelis are here are some pics for their fanboys.

Jewish Block family owned Norfolk 1980



Mombasa Paradise 2002



Frank Lowy's Westgate. In fact
Actually,Bwana Lowy has many questions concerning bombings at his hotel chain-at last count 2 have been extensively damaged!
http://karanjazplace..com/2014/09/the-first-anniversary-of-westgate-false.html
See those pics of Islamabad and Jakarta!




Btw,he's still wanted along with fellow Chosenites to explain exactly what happened at the WTC where he was co owner.

[imghttp://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Israel-did-911-640x563.jpg][/img]

Naijans,keep the Synagogue of Satan away from your security/intel networks! Some time back some of you were amazingly overtjoyed they were handling security at Aso Rock-GODDDAMMMITTT!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:21pm On Sep 17, 2014
SAAF 24 Squadron. Motto: "Per Noctem Per Diem" (Through Night, Through Day). Unofficial motto: "Hit the Floor it's Two Four" (lowflying attacks). Below: 24 Squadron Buccaneer over Southern Angola. Operation Modular.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 4:24pm On Sep 17, 2014
I love this caption: "Many veterans will remember this ride into and out of battle - in a tactic similar to the Vietnam War where the helicopter became the new work-horse of battle to fight fast moving insurgency, so too during the Bush War - and here is a typical image of the close support of the SAAF and the army in co-ordinated operations.

Here is a never before published photograph taken from the cockpit of a SAAF Puma Helicopter airlifting Paratrooper Fire-Force troops into action during the Border War."

Real best practice. Real skill. Real experience.

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