Henry120:


Difference is, they aren't 90% french.

Why doesn't Nigeria do the same? Ask for parts from France and then use the Igirigi's wheels to have a Nigerian attack helicopter?

GreenandGold:


Why doesn't Nigeria do the same? Ask for parts from France and then use the Igirigi's wheels to have a Nigerian attack helicopter?

You already did that.

GreenandGold:


Why doesn't Nigeria do the same? Ask for parts from France and then use the Igirigi's wheels to have a Nigerian attack helicopter?

What percentage French do you want?

Henry120:


Okay, tell us what percentage French you want them to be?

You seems to have a better knowledge of a machine you have never even seen.

All I ask for is a proof to your claim..... Prove it before I start proving that the Igirigi covers its ugly shame on South African armor.

SOUTH AFRICAN MADE COMPARE WITH IGIRIRIRIRI

Henry120:


What percentage French do you want?

IGIRIGI drives with an imported MTU Rolls-Royce diesel engine. Do we by anyway have to speculate that it is 90% foreign and 10% Nigerian. Please!! chief, refrain from this stupidity of yours, because that misinformed behavior can only be attributed to your fellow illiterate @agaugust.

NO COMPARISON WITH ANYTHING PRODUCED IN NIGERIA

mzilakazi:



IGIRIGI drives with an imported MTU Rolls-Royce diesel engine. Do we by anyway have to speculate that it is 90% foreign and 10% Nigerian. Please!! chief, refrain from this stupidity of yours, because that misinformed behavior can only be attributed to your fellow illiterate @agaugust.

It also uses South African armor (hull and reinforced glass)... the Igirigi is 50% British, 40% South African and 10% Ugly. Making it 0% Nigerian.

NIGERIANS MUST LEARN FIRST TO FIX ITS INFRASTRUCTURE BEFORE COMAPARING TO SOUTH AFRICA. SOUTH AFRICA IS A 1 000 YEARS AHEAD OF NIGERIA

NOT ONE VEHICLE BUT TENS AND TENS OF DIFFERENT VARIATIONS

SOUTH AFRICA IS NOT A BANANA REPUBLIC

mzilakazi:



IGIRIGI drives with an imported MTU Rolls-Royce diesel engine. Do we by anyway have to speculate that it is 90% foreign and 10% Nigerian. Please!! chief, refrain from this stupidity of yours, because that misinformed behavior can only be attributed to your fellow illiterate @agaugust.

How long have you visited this thread?

I asked a simply question, what percentage French do you guys want for the Rooivalk?

GreenandGold:


It also uses South African armor (hull and reinforced glass)... the Igirigi is 50% British, 40% South African and 10% Ugly. Making it 0% Nigerian.

Still doesn't change the Rooivalk been 10% south-african.

Henry120:


How long have you visited this thread?

I asked a simply question, what percentage French do you guys want for the Rooivalk?

What percentage do you guys want for your Rolls-Royce piece of cr*p. Hahahahaha lmao that thing ugly bro.

With all the money, time and existing designs Nigeria could have used as a bases point to design their vehicle, this is what the come up with?? LMFAO!!!

Army Col, 10 officers set Nigerian tankers ablaze
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There were shocking revelations at the weekend that an Army Colonel, some junior officers and soldiers who were taking part in the military offensive to reclaim communities taken over by the Boko Haram terrorists in Adamawa State, have been arrested for sabotage.

Top military sources said that the colonel (a Muslim) who was Commanding a team of three Armoured Personnel Carriers, APC’s, with the capability to fire up to a range of 1.5kilometres or even more, had instead of pursuing the terrorists, deliberately set the APCs on fire between Gulak and Madagali, before running away with his team of soldiers into the bush.

Saturday Vanguard gathered that the Army authorities were outraged over the development and ordered the arrest of both the commander, the junior officers as well as the soldiers under his command.

Narrating how the ‘’embarrassing incident occurred,’’ a source who was privy to the development noted that until the latest development, the Special Forces of the Nigerian Army who commenced the putsch to rout Boko Haram terrorists from Bazza, Michika, Gulak and Madagali from Vimtim, had successfully dealt with, and inflicted heavy casualties on the terrorists up till Gulak.

It was said that between Gulak and Madagali, the Colonel who had all along been prided with air surveillance reports, was again informed that Boko Haram terrorists were approaching his team in six Toyota Hilux Pick Up vans from the Madagali axis.

“However, rather than blasting and taking out the terrorists in their pick-up vans; he ordered his soldiers to jump out of the APC’s and set the armoured tanks on fire, without realising that he was being monitored. This was shocking because the terrorists were armed with weaponry which were grossly inferior to the firepower of the Nigerian Army Amoured tanks. After accomplishing the sabotage act, the Colonel and the junior officers and soldiers ran away into the bush, claiming that they were overpowered by a better armed group of Boko Haram terrorists,’’ Saturday Vanguard was told.

Military sources said that the action of the Colonel and soldiers under his command had given vent to the disclosure by the top hierarchy of the military that there were so many fifth columnists in the military working against the country’s determination to flush out Boko Haram terrorists in the land.

Consequently, Saturday Vanguard was told that a Board of Inquiry, BoI, had been set up by the Army authorities to investigate the Colonel and his soldiers after which a Military Court Martial would be set up to try them for conspiracy, treason and willful sabotage among others.

Also speaking on the development, a senior officer confided in Saturday Vanguard thus, “You can now see why the Military Court Martial which is currently sitting is inevitable. The uninformed would feel that soldiers who are fighting the nation’s battle are being unjustly punished. But the truth is that many of them are sabotaging Nigeria and making the insurgents look formidable for reasons that cannot be explained. Some of them appear sympathetic to the insurgents.

“How can it be explained that several APCs that cost up to $1million each in some cases or more will be willfully destroyed by Commissioned Officers, COs, who swore to defend the territorial integrity of their nation, just to help terrorists? That is treason of the highest order.”

The source added that the new vigour and determination with which Nigerian troops had been prosecuting the war, resulting in the killing of several commanders of the sect as well as hundreds of the insurgents, was the fallout of the new position of the military high command to deal with those pursuing a different agenda from that of the Federal Government.

The Chief of Defence Staff, CDS, Air Chief Marshal Alex Badeh said last week that the death penalty imposed on the 12 soldiers who were tried for treason was lawful and in accordance with military dictates. He spoke at a three-day conference organised by the National Security Adviser in collaboration with Trim Communication Nigeria Ltd on Media/Security relationship in crisis management.

According to him, “The day you join the military you have signed off, whether life or death, and it is obey before complaint. How can a soldier just jump out of the APC because you want to donate APC to Boko Haram; and somebody is there talking about constructive mutiny.

“The laws are there, if you run away from the enemy, you will die and that is what the military law says. Apart from the old Nigerian law, we abide by the military law. Nobody forces or conscripts anybody into the military. It is a voluntary service, and so if we have this type of challenge, you should be able to confront it and not to run away.”

– www.vanguardngr.com

Nine serving Generals in the Nigerian Army and other senior military officers are now under investigation for their alleged role in the sale of arms to members of the Boko Haram sect.

They are also fingered in the movement of weapons and Army armouries in some northern states, according to a report Nigerian Pilot.

The paper quoted an unnamed top security chief as confirming to it yesterday that the military authorities had made progress in the investigation of the affected Army officers, adding that they would soon be court-martialed.

The source reportedly attributed the delay in their arraignment before a military court to the concentration of activities on how to rescue the abducted schoolgirls from Chibok, Borno State, by Boko Haram sect.

According to the source, some detained Boko Haram suspects allegedly named the Generals and other military officers as supplying them arms, Nigerian Pilot said.

“He explained that the military High Command would only make the matter public after concluding its internal checks to ensure that there are no loose ends,” the paper said, adding:

“The security chief said that the Nigerian Army, headed by the Chief of Army Staff, Lt-Gen. Kenneth Minimah, in conjunction with other military top brass was working tirelessly to sanitise the armed forces and fish out collaborators with insurgents.”

The source, according to the report, hinted that the Army Chief had been briefed on the Generals’ arms deals with the insurgents, adding that “he (Army Chief) is currently carrying out a secret and independent investigation on the matter.”

Continuing, Nigerian Pilot said: “A few months ago, a soldier had told a foreign news agency that some top military chiefs were colluding with Boko Haram sect in their raging offensive in the North-East.

“In a swift reaction, The Defence Headquarters described the allegations as grave and promised to investigate the claims. The outcome of the probe is yet to be made public by the authorities as well as the names of the affected Generals.

“The insurgents operate with local and sophisticated weapons such as Improvised Explosives Devices, IEDs, AK-47rifles, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars.

“A United States, US Network TV, NBC, recently reported that most of the terror group’s weapons were either stolen from Nigerian military stocks or purchased from the thriving Central African arms black market.”

Centrifude:
With all the money, time and existing designs Nigeria could have used as a bases point to design their vehicle, this is what the come up with?? LMFAO!!!

Nkomo'ziyophuza (drinking cow) design

Henry120:


What does the businessday tittle say? Who say's value can't equal earnings?

Fact is for a single commodity, cocoa, Nigeria gets an estimated 10 billion dollars yearly. If Nigeria has an OPEC quota of 2.4 million barrels of oil at $100 per barrel, how much is nigeria's government earning?

Bwahahahaha, Nigeria and their fake figures.

That article was inaccurate and even got removed from the front page.

The $10billion figure is for the entire global cocoa exports not just Nigeria. Your exports are not even worth $1billion.

Everyone, go through the thread and read the comments.

lmao.

www.nairaland.com/1980413/nigeria-exports-10bn-raw-cocoa

Thiza:
Nine serving Generals in the Nigerian Army and other senior military officers are now under investigation for their alleged role in the sale of arms to members of the Boko Haram sect.

They are also fingered in the movement of weapons and Army armouries in some northern states, according to a report Nigerian Pilot.

The paper quoted an unnamed top security chief as confirming to it yesterday that the military authorities had made progress in the investigation of the affected Army officers, adding that they would soon be court-martialed.

The source reportedly attributed the delay in their arraignment before a military court to the concentration of activities on how to rescue the abducted schoolgirls from Chibok, Borno State, by Boko Haram sect.

According to the source, some detained Boko Haram suspects allegedly named the Generals and other military officers as supplying them arms, Nigerian Pilot said.

“He explained that the military High Command would only make the matter public after concluding its internal checks to ensure that there are no loose ends,” the paper said, adding:

“The security chief said that the Nigerian Army, headed by the Chief of Army Staff, Lt-Gen. Kenneth Minimah, in conjunction with other military top brass was working tirelessly to sanitise the armed forces and fish out collaborators with insurgents.”

The source, according to the report, hinted that the Army Chief had been briefed on the Generals’ arms deals with the insurgents, adding that “he (Army Chief) is currently carrying out a secret and independent investigation on the matter.”

Continuing, Nigerian Pilot said: “A few months ago, a soldier had told a foreign news agency that some top military chiefs were colluding with Boko Haram sect in their raging offensive in the North-East.

“In a swift reaction, The Defence Headquarters described the allegations as grave and promised to investigate the claims. The outcome of the probe is yet to be made public by the authorities as well as the names of the affected Generals.

“The insurgents operate with local and sophisticated weapons such as Improvised Explosives Devices, IEDs, AK-47rifles, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars.

“A United States, US Network TV, NBC, recently reported that most of the terror group’s weapons were either stolen from Nigerian military stocks or purchased from the thriving Central African arms black market.”

Nigeria is calling for a coup upon itself bit by bit. No army in the world must mess around with its top ranking structure unless they want to risk seeing soldiers taking up arms to depose the government.

Some 24 hours after Nigerian soldiers from the 234 battalion fled Mubi, Adamawa State as Islamist fighters advanced, the Defense Headquarters in Abuja has ordered the troops to return and retake the town from the militants. SaharaReporters was first to report yesterday that Islamist terrorists fighting under the banner of Boko Haram had captured the strategically important town of Mubi from Nigerian troops who were so overwhelmed by the insurgents’ firepower that they abandoned their barracks and weaponry as they fled.

A military source in Abuja told SaharaReporters this morning that the embarrassing retreat had infuriated the Chief of Defense Staff, Alex Badeh, whose hometown, Vimtim, is now less than 15 miles from the location of the insurgents.

Yesterday’s daring attack by the Boko Haram militants marked the first time in more than two months that the insurgents were able to send Nigerian soldiers fleeing. Before yesterday’s attack, Nigerian troops had scored a series of decisive triumphs over the insurgents, killing hundreds of them, capturing their weaponry and vehicles, and repelling their attempts to grab more territory in Adamawa or Borno States.

But military sources confirmed to us yesterday that Boko Haram militants were able to sweep into Mubi yesterday with little or no resistance from Nigerian troops based in the town. Newspaper accounts disclose that the militants have since bombed a prison yard and a major police facility in the town.

Our military sources said the insurgents had taken over the headquarters of the former Special Operations Battalion (SOB) now known as the 234 Battalion. One source said military authorities in Abuja were particularly nervous about the insurgents’ capture of the barracks because the retreating soldiers left behind a huge cache of sophisticated weapons kept at the armory in Mubi. “With the weapons in their possession, these militants can pose a serious threat to many other parts of the state and beyond,” a military officer told SaharaReporters.

One of our sources at Defense headquarters disclosed that some 300 soldiers who fled yesterday have now been ordered to converge at Song, a small township directly commanded by Brigadier Agbarefe, the Brigade Commander from the 213 Brigade in Yola. The troops are backed by two armored tanks and a few anti-personnel carriers (APCs) as they await final orders to march on Mubi to confront the insurgents and try to dislodge them.

Our source added that there was no aerial cover planned for the moment, but that the troops would proceed regardless.

The troops will be without their Commanding Officer, Lieutenant Colonel O. A. Agu and 234 Battalion Adjutant, Captain S.O Faseyi who were both injured yesterday when the pick up van they were fleeing in somersaulted several times.

Several soldiers in the battalion said morale was low, adding that their equipment were hardly adequate for the assignment to flush out the insurgents from Mubi.

However, a military source in Abuja denied the depiction of troop morale and equipment, insisting that the soldiers were well prepared and adequately armed to carry out the order to recapture Mubi. He said an additional brigade had been mobilized to provide additional firepower.

Nigeria Detains Military Commanders For Abandoning Mubi To Boko Haram

Five military commanders have been handcuffed and detained at the military police guard room at the 23 Brigade headquarters in Yola Adamawa state for abandoning Mubi in Adamawa state to Boko Haram militants last Wednesday.

The commander whose names and ranks were given as Colonel Ibrahim, Lt. Colonel Magaji and three others abandoned the 213 Brigade headquarters a few minutes after Boko Haram militants reached Mararaba and Hildi on the outskirts of Mubi.

Defense officials in Abuja had told Saharareporters that investigations were ongoing as to the cause of abandonment of the battle front by the commanders.

Another set of commanders from the 234 Brigade are expected to be detained by the military authorities as soon as they leave the MRS Hospital in Yola in a day or two according our sources.

The team includes Lt. Col O.A Agwu and his lieutenants. They equally fled the battle scene in Mubi and allowed Boko Haram militants to take the town with resistance. However, Lt. Col Agwu’s pick up van somersaulted twice and crashed injuring him and his lieutenants as they fled Mubi.

Mubi had three army battalions comprising of the "234 Brigade, the 213 Brigade and the 21 Support Group" when it fell to militants last Thursday. The soldiers fled alongside civilians to neighboring villages in Nigeria and Cameroon. A Punch newspaper report today claims that over 300 soldiers fled to Cameroon.

SaharaReporters could confirm that the rest of the soldiers are in "MIA" mode in Song Adamawa state where they await further orders to act against Boko Haram.

Hometown of Nigeria’s Defense Boss, Overrun By Boko Haram; Humanitarian Tragedy Evolving

In one of the worst ironies concerning the insecurity in Nigeria, Vimtin, the Adamawa State ho
metown of Nigeria’s Chief of Defence Staff, Air Chief Marshall Alex Badeh, was attacked by Boko Haram militants on Thursday. The apparently confident fighters paid a courtesy call of sorts at the home, suggesting they knew exactly where they were and what they were doing.

“They attacked Vimtim [on Thursday morning] and they went straight to the Chief of Defence Staff’s house,” John Kwale Vimtim, a former chairman of the Mubi North Local Government, told BBC Hausa radio yesterday.

But he said the militants did not kill or attack anyone at Air Marshall Badeh’s home, perhaps because it was empty. “All the people of Vimtim had already deserted the town,” John Kwale said, following news of Boko Haram’s exploits on Mubi, Adamawa’s second-largest town.

Vimtim is about 15 kilometres from Mubi. Daily Trust reported it was told that hundreds of Boko Haram fighters took over the village.

It would be recalled that early SaharaReporters reports from the onslaught on Mubi indicated that Nigerian soldiers fled the area along with civilians. Markets were reported to have been burnt down, banks looted and the palace of the Emir of Mubi occupied. Later on, military authorities said the fleeing troops were being ordered back to retake the town.

One local source who fled Mubi also said that the “withdrawal” of soldiers from the area on Wednesday was designed to give Air Force jets freedom to engage the insurgents from the air.

Daily Trust also said, quoting military sources, reinforcements were being sent to the state through the Yola airport in an effort to push back the attackers.

The newspaper said the militants had continued to tighten their grip on the town, forcing thousands of people to flee to other parts of Adamawa State.

Below is the rest of the newspaper’s report:

The insurgents marched on the state’s second-largest town on Wednesday, driving in about 14 trucks.

Mubi, a commercial hub, is home to about 151,000 people, according to the 2006 census.

Witnesses said Boko Haram fighters yesterday went round some streets, proclaiming a new government based on Islamic law. They told people to cooperate with the new regime.

The militants also engaged in killings, looting and arson. They set the main market on fire, looted banks, and occupied the palace of the Emir of Mubi.

A resident said they broke into the home of the District Head of Mubi, Alhaji Yarima Bello, and beheaded his son, Ibrahim, a judiciary staff.

Mubi market association chairman, Alhaji Abdulkadir Musa, told Daily Trust by telephone that the assailants set fire to sections of the market and looted some shops.

“The boys set ablaze shops dealing in secondhand clothes and looted others,” he said.

Musa said fleeing residents were dispossessed of their cellphone SIM cards before being allowed to leave.

“They blocked the road at Buladega, urging people not to leave, that they were not going to be attacked. They did not stop anyone from leaving, but collected peoples’ phones and removed the SIM cards,” he said.

A witness told Daily Trust that a Boko Haram militant mocked residents over their reliance on security forces for protection, saying the insurgents seized the town without much resistance.

“They have been rather boastful,” the man said by telephone from outside Mubi.

“A commander bragged that very soon they are taking Yola with the ease they captured Mubi and that government purchased weapons at high cost only for them to seize the arms.”

He said most of low-ranking insurgents he saw are teenagers.

“I just left the town, these Boko Haram boys cannot withstand a determined battalion of trained soldiers,” he said.

“Most of them are carrying AK 47. Some use rocket launchers but they do not have the type of armoured vehicles our soldiers deployed recently.”

Scared residents have been trooping out of the town since Wednesday. Thousands trekked in different directions yesterday, fearing for their lives.

Many people have been stranded in the bush along Mubi-Maiha-Pella road, with others crossing into Cameroon through the border town of Dumo. The border is about 30 kilometres from Mubi.

“I passed by at least 6,000 people including the sick with bandages and plasters to their arms and legs, all of them trekking to Maiha, some left through Gyala,” a village chief told Daily Trust.

“Some were heading for Cameroon through Dumo; it is pathetic. Please let our leaders act.”

James Audu, a student, told Reuters news agency: “I saw many dead bodies in the bush and many injured people were lying helpless especially children and women. They killed a lecturer and his entire family. I saw them get shot (in Mubi).”

Stephen Adaji, also a student, said he had been hiding in the bush since mid-morning on Wednesday when the fighting began until a farmer helped him cross to a nearby village and he fled to the nearest city of Yola.

“We couldn’t sleep in the bush because of the fear Boko Haram may get us,” he said. “We were so scared, shooting was going on throughout the night.”

Daily Trust learnt that hundreds of soldiers who fled Mubi have converged at a town about 60 kilometers away, with dozens of vans and many armoured vehicles.

The soldiers manned check points in the area with fleeing residents complaining that the checkpoints delay them unnecessarily.

Many people who fled Mubi on Wednesday were yet to reach Yola by yesterday evening, as only those who left in their personal cars or were picked up by trucks conveying cattle made it.

Many children separated from their parents during the stampede that followed the Boko Haram attack on Wednesday.

A man at the NYSC Orientation camp in Girei said he separated from his 14-year old younger sister, his elder brother and sister in-law when an explosive narrowly missed their vehicle, forcing them to stop and ran in different directions.

“I was able to make contact with my brother who is still in the bush but none of us heard about the girl. I hope she did not run back to Mubi. My prayer is she escaped with other people to the bush,” he said.

Another displaced man, Abdullahi Alai, said he did not know the whereabouts of his two sons and wife after fleeing when Boko Haram struck.

He said he fled Mubi in his car around 6pm Wednesday and drove overnight to Yola. He said thousands of worn-out people made brief stop-overs at different villages to beg for food before resuming their trek towards the state capital.

Adamu Mohammed, who also fled to Yola yesterday, said hundreds of people trekked to Hong, over 50 kilometres away. “The entire road was covered by human beings, herding out to Hong, like a group of sheep,” he said.

Our correspondent reported that the number of displaced people at the NYSC camp in Yola has surged as people from Mubi file in to register.

Executive Secretary of the state emergency agency ADSEMA, Haruna Furo, said hundreds of people were registered at the camp over the past 24 hours. The number of people at the camp stands at 6,800 as at yesterday.

A spokesman for the National Emergency Management Agency (NEMA) in the North-East, Abdul Ibrahim, told Reuters the agency had sent extra personnel to help manage people fleeing to Yola.

He said an attack on Uba just hours before the one on Mubi on Wednesday had forced 4,000 people who were in a displaced persons camp to vacate the camp and head for Yola.

Henry120:


Go through our archives in this thread. I've proven this multiple times.

I'll give a hint where to search, search around the pages where patches689 was caught lying (again) about mokopa missiles in SANDF service.

You have never ever ones posted any source about the rooivalk being 90% anything

Henry120:


The Z-10 = Chinese helicopter
T-129 = turkish variant of an Italian helicopter
Apache helicopter = American
MI series = Russian
Tiger helicopter = European
Rooivalk = 90% French.
Rooivalk = 10% south-african.

So when the Chinese use the same engine it's complettely chinese?

But when we do its suddenly French?

Butthurt detected

Henry120:


You provided a link which shows the BEE company bought 20% stake in their real-estate arm, how does that translate to 70% stake in their defence arm?

LIAR.

Again I recommend that you stop humiliating yourself and go read about paramount

They have no "real-estate" arm

Henry120:


And we simply say 90% french.

You say it but are unable to prove it

Because it is a lie driven by massive amounts of nigerian butthurt

Henry120:


Difference is, they aren't 90% french.

A perfect example of a double standard

Henry120:


Still doesn't change the Rooivalk been 10% south-african.

And it doesn't change the fact that the Igiri is more South African than nigerian

GreenandGold:


Nkomo'ziyophuza (drinking cow) design

LMFAO!! Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha! Ahh dude! Bruh you are insane, and it really does look like a drinking cow.

I hope the following information would bring to an end the misinformed debate about ROOIVALK being 90% French unless you lack comprehensive information relating to the subject at hand....REMEMBER SOUTH AFRICAN DO NOT TELL LIES AND CLAIM EASY VICTORIES

The Rooivalk was born from a need of the South African Airforce to field a capable attack helicopter. Atlas Arms Company ( Before becoming DENEL) produce the first HX-1 Alpha designed to which it serve the comapny well in terms of developmental research. The HX-1 was was based highly on French made- Aerospatiale Alouette III system, though hardly a dedicated attack platform and still utilizing 1960's technology. HX-1 started testing flights in 1986 folowed by two converted XTP-1 Beta gunship in the form of Aerospatiale SA 300 Pumas ( production version of the Rooivalk would indeed feature the SA 300 transmittion and rotor system), designed at the outset as test beds.

Utilising information gained from both test, designs were being drawn up for the ROOIVALK as early as 1984 with initial flyable XH-2 Rooivalk getting airborne by 1990.

Centrifude:


LMFAO!! Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha! Ahh dude! Bruh you are insane, and it really does look like a drinking cow.

This has to go down in history as the ugliest thing ever designed by the human race... then the second one has to be the bus-like APC with a CCTV attached to it.