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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:31pm On Mar 18, 2015
stillchris:


lemme get this straight.. when you say light maintenance, i hope it's about just changing oil and adding fuel.

because the picture of the cuban mechanic i see working on your truck doesn't look like heavy maintenance and your fat minister also exposed the lack of skilled engineers in SANDF.

"Dlamini said that private South African companies to whom work was outsourced were reluctant to pass on their skills to the SANDF and maintained military vehicles poorly. The Cubans, on the other hand, are experts at keeping equipment running despite sanctions and Cuba continues to enjoy good military relations with South Africa."

fact of the matter is that your army is short of skilled personel and broke.

that's why the cubans had to fly their army engineers(not private contractors) to maintain your vehicles for you and save you from paying private contractors to milk the remaining change your army has left.

in peace time for that matter... damn shame


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Chai !!!! See insult oooo !!!!

South African army engineering corps stripped N..A..K..E..D with embarrassment !!!!

Cuba, tiny Cuba to the rescue ! No wonder Cuba defeated them in Angolan war ! Superior Cuban brains !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:07pm On Mar 18, 2015
Patchesagain:


Foreign media have shown that he is telling lies.

Photographs have been posted of white men commanding vehicals at the front


Nope, media photos showed MRAPs of foreign PMC technicians inside Maiduguri city that has ZERO fighting and ZERO Boko Haram men since the final NA+NAF offensive began, the white PMC guys were photographed moving around inside a 100% peaceful, safe, and quiet Maduguri city that has been and is still under 100% control of Nigerian army 24 hours of every day since 1960 independence till today, get it ?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:10pm On Mar 18, 2015
Patchesagain:


I dont have to show you.

The source says so quite clearly.

“Through this agreement the SANDF will be able to develop its own internal capacity and save on costs while bringing up its vehicle serviceability.”
http://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/cuban-team-to-assist-sandf-1.1825681#.VQl7v46Ud8E

If you bothered to read you would see so

True bro, you are right, we saw in that photo, the Cuban mercenaries inside SANDF base training your soldiers and officers
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:50pm On Mar 18, 2015
DieVluit:


The New York Times is similar to "wordpress"? Please tell us how?

Whenever you are ready.

Again,

:Hundreds of mercenaries from South Africa and other countries are playing a decisive role in Nigeria’s military campaign against Boko Haram, operating attack helicopters and armored personnel carriers and fighting to retake towns and villages captured by the Islamist militant group, according to senior officials in the region.

The Nigerian government has not acknowledged the presence of the mercenaries, but a senior government official in northern Nigeria said the South Africans — camped out in a remote portion of the airport in Maiduguri, the city at the heart of Boko Haram’s uprising — conducted most of their operations at night because “they really don’t want to let people know what is going on.”


The mercenaries “are in the vanguard in the liberation of some of the communities,” the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

You seriously and desperately WISH that foreign mercenaries were fighting for Nigeria, but unfortunately for you the Nigerian Army Chief Of Staff has wrecked your hopeless hopes.

You wish, you had photo evidence from battlefield, you wish a top level identified Nigerian government official will say you are right, you fast and pray, even ready to do juju to make your phantom mercenary story become true, but alas, your disappointment continues till infinity.

Cheer up kid, it's not as bad as you think, you are a white South African, and Nigeria is an African country with a might military force about to make world history by defeating Islamic terrorism connected to Al-Quaeda and ISIS with the barrel of a Nigerian made AK-47 rifle variant called OBJ-006, a great achievement that world super power America and Great Britain FAILED to achieve with 1,000 times superior weapons in Afghanistan against Taliban Islamic terrorists.

You are an African, your white skin not withstanding, Nigeria has made Africa proud, Nigeria has made YOU proud, so don't worry....be happy....don't worry be happy....oooooh...don't worry.. oh oh oh...be happy...oooh oh oh gringringrin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 11:53pm On Mar 18, 2015
Msauza:


Lagos, Enugu, Port Harcourt, (Akwa ibom) Abuja, Warri, Onitsha, Aba, Jos, llorin, Oyo, Calabar, Benin City etc is overflowing with AIDS that is not receiving treatment. The most hit are military men.
unconfirmed !!! So I'm chalking it down as trolling. Southafrica is still the unenviable top HIV producer of the world.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 12:12am On Mar 19, 2015

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:03am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


Citation needed.

Show proof of cheaper wages/salaries.

Cuban mercenaries have been hired by SANDF !
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I have posted the citation twice now

It is cheaper than sending them to private companies
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:04am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


Old story from grandfather. 1980s expired war. Dead, retired, or gray haired old men SADF disbanded apartheid army.

Show us war fought by today's new SANDF of HIV infected Southie soldiers, show us the enemy main battle tanks your internet army has destroyed in the last 20 years tonguetonguetongue
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We have been at peace for the last 20 years

The SANDF is full of veterans of the border war

SADF troops are trained in the same way as the SADF - meaning their combat effectiveness will be the same or better
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:05am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


That their fat woman minister threatening ex-soldiers, she had better watch her mouth or go ask Lucky Dube, make she know how far. Free AK-47 plenty for inside South Africa with no registered gun owner.....89 souls per day no be joke o!
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1. 49 per day
2. Over 6000 dead, 1,5 million displaced in Nigeria
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:06am On Mar 19, 2015
rka1:


Please show the photos of white men commanding vehicles in battle. They are doing what they were contracted for, instruct. Go and look up the meaning of the word if it is that difficult.

Do you often train men in the combat zone?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:10am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


That's an old man, 43 year old soldiers, and SADF is apartheid era army, now defunct, almost all the whites left or were forced to retire.

Show us proof that 17 year old soldiers were engaged in combat for SADF in Angola, age 17 is legally a minor, how does your law deploy 17 year old boys in battle 1,000 km away from home? That is below international standard of legal age.

When did he join the army and get trained, age 15 ?

Show us proof that 17 year olds were deployed to SADF war zone in Angola.

SADF officer Colonel Eben is now about 65 years old and he left SANDF long time ago because Mandela flushed out white soldiers and replaced them with incompetent Soweto bushmen hunters and maize farm laborers to form Africa's most ridiculous army
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Augustus

You are wasting my time

SADF = SANDF

There are thousands of veterans within its ranks, not to mention that the SADF had black South African units who fought in Angola

45 is the perfect age for middle leadership

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:12am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


BBC has confirmed with BBC recorded and published video evidence Nigeria has guided missile armed drones CH-3 and confirmed we used if to set an African military record of the first drone kill from Capetown to Cairo.

SANDF is technologically behind Nigerian military in the art of war, you cannot even attempt what our armed forces are achieving, you have an obsolescent military in SANDF
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Post the BBC link

Do you want me to list how we are superior to you in ever feild again?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:13am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


The only two sides on ground inside the battlefields with verified information about who is fighting the war, are Nigerian army and Boko Haram.

Nigerian army has spoken throught the ultimate boss on ground, Chief of army staff, and confirmed NO MERCENARY IS FIGHTING FOR NIGERIA.....anybody with any other argument or opinion is NOT on ground inside the bloody battlefield and thus becomes a speculator and liar.

Did foreign media hire mercenaries for Nigeria and signed the contract papers or paid the service fee for the fighters?

Your argument is demolished by the Nigerian chief of army staff, sorry loser, you southies lose again tonguetonguetongue
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Nope journalists are on the ground, collecting information and writing reports

Your general is a liar who is afraid of losing his job
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:14am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


You just did that by your comment above
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Why are you unable to counter my argument?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:17am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


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Chai !!!! See insult oooo !!!!

South African army engineering corps stripped N..A..K..E..D with embarrassment !!!!

Cuba, tiny Cuba to the rescue ! No wonder Cuba defeated them in Angolan war ! Superior Cuban brains !
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Augustus

This has been explained many times

If your tiny ape mind cannot comprehend then that is fine, but no engineer corps has been stripped naked

SANDF has simply switched service providors - the overhaul and refurbishment of vehicals has never been the duty of SANDF feild workshops. They perform maintenance.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:19am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


Nope, media photos showed MRAPs of foreign PMC technicians inside Maiduguri city that has ZERO fighting and ZERO Boko Haram men since the final NA+NAF offensive began, the white PMC guys were photographed moving around inside a 100% peaceful, safe, and quiet Maduguri city that has been and is still under 100% control of Nigerian army 24 hours of every day since 1960 independence till today, get it ?

.

Reporters have gathered info that says otherwise, reporters dont make things up - foreign mercenaries have been leading your attacks

Mercanaries have been photographed commanding a convoy of vehicals on their way to the front

Get it?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:21am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


True bro, you are right, we saw in that photo, the Cuban mercenaries inside SANDF base training your soldiers and officers
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Not reading the citations again?

Are you a 6 year old who can only read picture books?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:52am On Mar 19, 2015
patches689:


Post the BBC link

Do you want me to list how we are superior to you in ever feild again?



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31902503
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:55am On Mar 19, 2015
patches689:


I have posted the citation twice now

It is cheaper than sending them to private companies

Nope, you posted nothing about salaries. Your own source says the Cuban mercenaries were hired by SANDF because local South African private companies refused to transfer technical skills to SANDF men.

You wanted Cuba to come back as your master second time around after Angola episode, to teach you how to repair your own SAMIL trucks that you manufacture in South Africa....dull army grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:01am On Mar 19, 2015
patches689:


Augustus

This has been explained many times

If your tiny ape mind cannot comprehend then that is fine, but no engineer corps has been stripped naked

SANDF has simply switched service providors - the overhaul and refurbishment of vehicals has never been the duty of SANDF feild workshops. They perform maintenance.

Cuba is teaching South Africa Lessons II of Angolan Bush war.....maintenance of made in South Africa military vehicles tongue tongue
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:02am On Mar 19, 2015
patches689:


Nope journalists are on the ground, collecting information and writing reports

Your general is a liar who is afraid of losing his job

Show us photo of foreign journalist inside artillery and bombing zone or Sambisa forest....on ground !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:14am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


You seriously and desperately WISH that foreign mercenaries were fighting for Nigeria, but unfortunately for you the Nigerian Army Chief Of Staff has wrecked your hopeless hopes.

You wish, you had photo evidence from battlefield, you wish a top level identified Nigerian government official will say you are right, you fast and pray, even ready to do juju to make your phantom mercenary story become true, but alas, your disappointment continues till infinity.

Cheer up kid, it's not as bad as you think, you are a white Southie African, and Nigeria is an African country with a might military force about to make world history by defeating Islamic terrorism likened to Al-Quaeda and ISIS with the barrel of a Nigerian made AK-47 variant called OBJ-006, a great achievement that world super power America and Great Britain FAILED to achieve with 1,000 times superior weapons in Afghanistan against Islamic Taliban terrorists.

You are an Africa, your white skin notwithstanding, Nigeria has made Africa proud, Nigeria has made YOU proud, so don't worry....be happy....don't worry be happy....oooooh...don't worry.. oh oh oh...be happy...oooh oh oh gringringrin

.

Nigeria has allways and will allways be an embarrasement to africa

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:16am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:




http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31902503
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That is not a drone strike.

You said that the BBc explicitally confirmed that you had a specific type of drone and had used it to drop PgMs - post the link

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:20am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


Nope, you posted nothing about salaries. Your own source says the Cuban mercenaries were hired by SANDF because local South African private companies refused to transfer technical skills to SANDF men.

You wanted Cuba to come back as your master second time around after Angola episode, to teach you how to repair your own SAMIL trucks that you manufacture in South Africa....dull army grin grin
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Augustus

That is not all the link says

The link also says that it it cheaper than following the usual practice of outsourcing heavy maintenance and refurburation to private companies, as is standard practice.

This has nothing to do with day to day maintenance

On the other hand, south africans are training YOU in how to maintain vehicals on a day to day basis

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 3:51am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


Cuba is teaching South Africa Lessons II of Angolan Bush war.....maintenance of made in South Africa military vehicles tongue tongue
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South Africa is teaching Nigeria many lessons to maintain their equipment.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:59am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:


Cuba is teaching South Africa Lessons II of Angolan Bush war.....maintenance of made in South Africa military vehicles tongue tongue
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They arent performing maintennace

They are refurbishing and overhauling vehicals - 250 of them in a year. The feild workshops will continue their normal duties of performing day to day maintenance on the rest of the over 12 000 soft skinned vehicals the SANDF operates

Overhauls and refurbishment has allways fallen to private enterprises
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 4:05am On Mar 19, 2015
[size=20]Immediately you recruit foreigners to train your regular army in whatever area, it does not matter what kind of assistance they offer to your own forces, in the right sense they must be regarded as mercenaries.

Nigeria has always been using mercenaries to fight their battle. It doesn't matter how hard they will always refute the allegations. The question is what are foreigners doing on their country, especially those who are not linked to the arms industries. It is clear and final that NIGERIA IS MAKING USE OF MERCENARIES TO KILL BOKO HARAM.

NIGERIAN MILITARY IS INCAPABLE, NO SKILLS TO MAINTAIN THEIR EQUIPMENT NOT EVEN ON THEIR PRIVATE SECTOR NOTHING. INSTEAD, HAVE SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLAR TO PRIVATISE THEIR WAR.

BOKO HARAM IS DEFEATED BY MERCENARIES.


"FINISH AND KLAAR"
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 5:45am On Mar 19, 2015
Record video of vehicle being destroyed by 3rd party, and call it a "drone stroke". Only in Nigeria grin


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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 5:53am On Mar 19, 2015
saengine:
https://beegeagle./2015/03/18/boko-haram-and-mercenaries-in-borno-the-myth-the-reality-hearing-it-from-a-pmc-operative/#comment-86734


Interesting

beegeagle is a very close friend to colonel Eben. so it's very easy for him to have access to these guys.

now you know the true story.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:47am On Mar 19, 2015
stillchris:


beegeagle is a very close friend to colonel Eben. so it's very easy for him to have access to these guys.

now you know the true story.

That is not the true story, just ask Beegeagle to inquire colonel Eben why are foreigners bulking up in Nigeria on a large scale, some of whom are not linked to arms industries to can train Nigeria on any weapon. What are they doing there and how sure is he if they are not being used as secret weapons that kill Boko haram.

Nigeria in the past refused AU assistance and has told international media that Nigeria's problems must be solved by Nigerians and now why are foreigners with white skins massing up on their land. Foreigners whom majority of them have previously served as mercenaries in Iraq, an example would be that of Leon Lotz. Nigeria can continue with their agenda of fooling people through propaganda, but they will not fool all the people all the time and that one person is me.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:50am On Mar 19, 2015
agaugust:




http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31902503
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Nigerian trained fighter pilots do not have that skill only mercenaries can achieve that.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:57am On Mar 19, 2015
The Nigerian government is packed with propagandists, even their president admits. If they tell lies about certain issues why would they not lie about their clandestine extensive use of mercenaries.


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/178441-breaking-jonathan-admits-nigeria-lied-over-morocco-phone-row-orders-probe.html

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