removetheturban:
WOULD YOU BE MAN ENOUGH TO TENDER AN APOLOGY TO THE JEHOVAH's WITNESSES FOR YOUR IRREVERENT AND BLASPHEMOUS COMMENTS?

Deuteronomy 12:23

New Living Translation
But never consume the blood, for the blood is the life, and you must not consume the lifeblood with the meat.

International Standard Version
Only be sure to refrain from eating blood, because blood is the source of life and you must not consume blood with the meat.

Deuteronomy 12:16

New Living Translation
But you must not consume the blood. You must pour it out on the ground like water.

International Standard Version
Only, you must not consume the blood; instead, pour it out on the ground as you would water.

Acts 15:20

New Living Translation
Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood.

Deuces or aces?


Tender that APOLOGY

No be only apology. You will wait for apology which you won't see till your new system in other words it would never happen.

removetheturban:
I never told you that we don't believe in Miracle. I told you that we believe in miracle and we do not believe in magic but you called my God a dar-aged God. Was that not out of a programmed heart? You do not care what a JW tells you. Your mind is made up. You do not even listen or read properly to hear us. You are just programmed to defame and to reject whatever we tell you. But the Bible said that the gifts would cease and only three things would remain and love is the greatest out of them. That was a quote from a medical journal in that article. I inserted the article there for your reference. Everyone knows that our publications incorporate scientific opinions to keep us updated and maintain a balance. You singled out that quote for your malicious games. That is a quote that was published by medical encyclopedia. The issue being talked about was medicine, reference was made to a medical encyclopedia and that information was inserted into our publication. But then, we concluded by saying that the matter was left to each one to decide. You have an intention to malign that is why i asked you to post the entire article. Thank God you did it by yourself and everyone can compare. So, does it make me evil if I wrote about air travel, inserted a negative opinion published by the aviation ministry about the risks involved in flying, and concluded that air transport was a matter of choice? Granted, that opinion can influence the decisions of others but it is not a law. Our article also has the potential to influence people's decision but it was not a doctrine. It is the same thing that you read in the medical encyclopedia. We never taught it in our meetings as a law or preached against it. That was a fair article at the time and no one read it negatively except your new generation of bloggers injecting cancerous life into it. Every story has the potential to influence positively and negatively. Are you trying to narrow it down to Nigeria? You think that you have a better chance to hold any water there? We do not play that game, girl. I am representing the name of Jehovah and I must do that in a dignifying manner. We bring the good news not to tear down but to build up. We respect everyone's decision to serve whatever they want and do whatever as long as they are not against our will to preach the good news and serve our God. I am not the one to expose you. You know it all, and you will not drag me into that. Just Google it and you will find interesting things about your religion. And do not get me wrong, I am not condemning your religion. Before you will take the story to town that the JW hate yall, we do not. We simply preach the word of God TO ALL (Pentecostals inclusive).
It has become a competition for you already and you are trying to outdo yourself.
Like I told you, we are not looking for mere mortals to take us seriously. If we wanted it, we would have gotten it.
The JW pulled out of Babylon the great. Not Catholic! We pulled out of every defilement that has to do with the harlot described in the book of Revelation. Jehovah asked us to get out of her if we do not want to partake of her plagues. We did just so, just like Noah. All the Hellenistic doctrines and fetish conducts that originate from the devil, we are not a part of it. Homosexuality, fornication, reviling, greed, paganism, stealers, deceivers, murderers, killers of their own kinds, haters, blasphemers, malicious, bitterness etc.
You are not free from Catholic hold. You are still in that clan just in case you didn't know. Most of your doctrines are Catholic-oriented.
I asked you a question earlier. Who represents your church when the bell for ecumenical prayer for peace rings?
In my neighbourhood, we call comments like that 'Troll's jibes'. I just came to discover that you know nothing about Pentecostalism. When did you start attending Church in Nigeria? I have met your type many times and they all believe that Idahosa started Pentecostalism in Nigeria. Guess what! He was only the first Christian celebrity magician in Nigeria not that he started the movement. You may consult your pastor for further briefing on this. This is not my kind of story but for your edification, read the links to stay updated. It is your Church and not mine.

http://www.pewforum.org/2006/10/05/historical-overview-of-pentecostalism-in-nigeria/

http://www.cacworldwideonline.org/cac_history.html


And, save your apology for calling me a pathological liar. I do not need it.

There you go again with the "we believe in miracle and not magic" hogwash.. You don't even believe in the jehova u so much revere? U don't believe dat u can ask him for an egg and he wont give you scorpion.. U don't believe u can ask for a miracle and the devil won't take over. Dat is not the God of the Israelite.. D God of Israel makes a mess of Pharoah magicians. Just go on YouTube and search for the name pete Cabrera. You will see live miracles in his street evangelism. I know you will say its magic cos u are taught to disbelieve anything not coming from ur society. Den i remembered that the powerless pharisees too accused Jesus of healing ppl with the spirit of belzebub den i am not worried.

Wat medical journal did you copy it from? Was it a medical journal dat was quoting scriptures? U are ashamed to admit the inconsistencies in ur doctrines over the years. Wat is the fate of those who followed those Russell teachings dat av now become obsolete in ur society?its even in record that there was a time u guys allowed transfusion of blood, wat happens to those who find themselves in such generation? Dey were taught a lie and dey believed it, wat makes u think ur case is different?

I expected u would post the names of pentecostal churches who do not accept medicine.. It would av been honorable if u could mention their names.
U r still repeating ursef. U pulled out yeh? Why didn't u remain since God is not a God of confusion? And since u pulled out from something wat gives u d moral justification to condemn those pentecostals who also pulled out from something .?

Obviously u guys didn't come out of catholics.. Obviously you didn't come out of any denomination.. U don't av a root with Christ no wonder u believe all u do.

Benson Idahosa was a magician .. Den reinhard bonnke was a magician too huh? Cos Idahosa laid hands on him magicians winning millions all over the world to Jesus doesn't make bible sense
[b] And the teachers of the law from Jerusalem said, “Satan is living inside him! He uses power from the ruler of demons to force demons out of people.” So Jesus called them together and talked to them using some stories. He said, “Satan will not force his own demons out of people. A kingdom that fights against itself will not survive. And a family that is divided will not survive. If Satan is against himself and is fighting against his own people, he will not survive. That would be the end of Satan. “Whoever wants to enter a strong man’s house and steal his things must first tie him up. Then they can steal the things from his house. “I want you to know that people can be forgiven for all the sinful things they do. They can even be forgiven for the bad things they say against God. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. They will always be guilty of that sin.” Jesus said this because the teachers of the law had accused him of having an evil spirit inside him.
Mark 3:22‭-‬30 ERV[/b]
Well u were never supposed to make sense anyway cos all uv known is wat dey av been feeding u. May the good Lord open ur eyes.. I see how u also stylishly avoided my request to show me the message i took 2 days to reply like u accused.. Well i forgive u for dat blatant lie and i am not surprised..

Season greetings by d way... If u hate Christmas, u definitely won't hate New year

salvation101:

There you go again with the "we believe in miracle and not magic" hogwash.. You don't even believe in the jehova u so much revere? U don't believe dat u can ask him for an egg and he wont give you scorpion.. U don't believe u can ask for a miracle and the devil won't take over. Dat is not the God of the Israelite.. D God of Israel makes a mess of Pharoah magicians. Just go on YouTube and search for the name pete Cabrera. You will see live miracles in his street evangelism. I know you will say its magic cos u are taught to disbelieve anything not coming from ur society. Den i remembered that the powerless pharisees too accused Jesus of healing ppl with the spirit of belzebub den i am not worried.

Wat medical journal did you copy it from? Was it a medical journal dat was quoting scriptures? U are ashamed to admit the inconsistencies in ur doctrines over the years. Wat is the fate of those who followed those Russell teachings dat av now become obsolete in ur society?its even in record that there was a time u guys allowed transfusion of blood, wat happens to those who find themselves in such generation? Dey were taught a lie and dey believed it, wat makes u think ur case is different?

I expected u would post the names of pentecostal churches who do not accept medicine.. It would av been honorable if u could mention their names.
U r still repeating ursef. U pulled out yeh? Why didn't u remain since God is not a God of confusion? And since u pulled out from something wat gives u d moral justification to condemn those pentecostals who also pulled out from something .?

Obviously u guys didn't come out of catholics.. Obviously you didn't come out of any denomination.. U don't av a root with Christ no wonder u believe all u do.

Benson Idahosa was a magician .. Den reinhard bonnke was a magician too huh? Cos Idahosa laid hands on him magicians winning millions all over the world to Jesus doesn't make bible sense
[b] And the teachers of the law from Jerusalem said, “Satan is living inside him! He uses power from the ruler of demons to force demons out of people.” So Jesus called them together and talked to them using some stories. He said, “Satan will not force his own demons out of people. A kingdom that fights against itself will not survive. And a family that is divided will not survive. If Satan is against himself and is fighting against his own people, he will not survive. That would be the end of Satan. “Whoever wants to enter a strong man’s house and steal his things must first tie him up. Then they can steal the things from his house. “I want you to know that people can be forgiven for all the sinful things they do. They can even be forgiven for the bad things they say against God. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. They will always be guilty of that sin.” Jesus said this because the teachers of the law had accused him of having an evil spirit inside him.
Mark 3:22‭-‬30 ERV[/b]
Well u were never supposed to make sense anyway cos all uv known is wat dey av been feeding u. May the good Lord open ur eyes.. I see how u also stylishly avoided my request to show me the message i took 2 days to reply like u accused.. Well i forgive u for dat blatant lie and i am not surprised..

Season greetings by d way... If u hate Christmas, u definitely won't hate New year

The Bible says that in the last days imposters will arise performing many works of iniquities. So are these the men that you revere today? I notice how you stand in defence of them LOL.
I do not celebrate Christmas and new year. And why do you celebrate them? Do you have a biblical instruction to celebrate it? How do you distinguish yourself from Pagans on days like this?

removetheturban:

The Bible says that in the last days imposters will arise performing many works of iniquities. So are these the men that you revere today? I notice how you stand in defence of them LOL.
I do not celebrate Christmas and new year. And why do you celebrate them? Do you have a biblical instruction to celebrate it? How do you distinguish yourself from Pagans on days like this?

oh really?? do the jw have instructions to drink beer??

you want to condemn someone from celebrating what does the Bible say about observing days months for justification ?

what does the Bible teach about conversion .... even you who thinks you on the right way is as guilty as the guy you arguing with

do you convert someone by words of foolish argument or prayers .... if an unbelievers checks this thread which of you would he think is better ....since both of you are Judges

removetheturban:
No! But you told me that my God is dead when I told you that I didn't believe in magic. Why did you make that remark? You are the one feeding me, so I can imagine your definition of garbage. I presented your own logic to you but now it sounds illogical? The weather is good when it rains on my roof but on yours, it is a bad weather, isn't it? You claim that you need a miracle for a minor headache, which alone is a rejection of medicine. What are Paracetamol and Advil for? I said that you can help yourself with them instead of putting your God to the test. Do you agree that Paracetamol can alleviate a headache? Like I said, Many JW are doctors and we seek the best medical care for ourselves. Search “Jehovah's witnesses and bloodless medicine” on Google. Do a little research. The entire world is canvassing for bloodless medicine today because of our firm conviction in the word of Jehovah.

Bloodless medicine that you accept autologous blood transfusion. Your Jehovah told you allogenous blood transfusion is asking while autologous blood transfusion is acceptable
Your Jehovah told you that accepting components of blood which are gotten from worldly donors are acceptable yet told you donating blood is a sin.
So your Jehovah told you cow (bovine) blood transfusion aka hemopure is acceptable but human blood transfusion is acceptable. Your Jehovah is hilarious. Your God said you can eat the blood of animals you kill for food and sacrifice while he said you shouldn't eat the blood of humans who tries to save your life and you wouldn't kill the human for food or sacrifice. Your Jehovah is just a comedian.
Bloodless medicine my foot. Bloodless medicine that you won't try in very bad cases and children when blood transfusion is the only option. Keep lying to unsuspecting masses. You can't deceive me cos I am a good thinker.

Or is it only negative information about JW. How come you are now oblivious of the log in your own eye? Come on, Lady! The record is for the reading. Or, are you just kidding? Google "Pentecostal and medicine". You do not have any moral cojones to judge the JW. You have done far worse than you think. You know how to research deeper, don't you?

Is it by having something to do in the medical field that makes you the truth? I don't think so. Your religion remains a destructive cult even with all these your ramblings.

I will see how you jump out of this ship. How many people has blood transfusion killed?

Way Fewer than the number of people blood transfusion refusal has killed. Watchtower cult reasoning is appalling. So now their job is to scare people by saying so many deaths are caused by blood transfusion. Have they run out of biblical verses?

Look it up! And then tell me how many people died from not receiving blood. Look who is canvassing for medicine! LOL

See how pen down rubbish to support your queer doctrines. People die from refusal too. 1994 awake issue on youth who put God first says so. I think it featured 26 children who chose to die rather than get a blood transfusion. So it does kill. In my life I have seen people die from refusal of blood transfusion and never seen anyone die from receiving blood transfusion

Transfusing blood is not a guarantee to survival. Get some update, girl! Our doctors are well sourced out for because we take your health seriously.

According to reports cross:
Every two seconds someone in the U.S. needs blood.
Approximately 36,000 units of red blood cells are needed every day.
Nearly 7,000 units of platelets and 10,000 units of plasma are needed daily in the U.S.
Nearly 21 million blood components are transfused each year in the U.S.
The average red blood cell transfusion is approximately 3 pints.
The blood type most often requested by hospitals is Type O.
The blood used in an emergency is already on the shelves before the event occurs.
It is estimated that sickle cell disease affects 90,000 to 100,000 people in the U.S. About 1,000 babies are born with the disease each year. Sickle cell patients can require frequent blood transfusions throughout their lives.
More than 1.68 million people are expected to be diagnosed with cancer in 2016. Many of them will need blood, sometimes daily during their chemotherapy treatment.
A single car accident victim can require as many as 100 pints of blood

According to fda:
In 2013, for example, there were approximately 19 million blood components
transfused.1During the proximate period of Fiscal Year (FY) 2011, there were 58 reported
transfusion-associated fatalities, with subsequent reports of 65 in 2012, and 59 in 2013, 56
in 2014, and 41 in 2015 In USA


That means out of the 19 million components (fractions) transfused in 2013 only 59 people died
From transfusion related reactions. The number of deaths is very small compared to the number of components transfused yearly. It does guarantee life to an extent.

Life is precious to us and we do our very best to be honest even in our secular endeavours.

Yet you put the symbol of life (blood) over the life it represents. Instead just say your imaginary life paradise earth is what is precious to you because your leaders told you you won't make the new system if you accept blood transfusion you have decided to obey the rule

1 Corinthians 14:33 God is not a God of disorder or confusion. JW are the same home and abroad

If you read the other verses surrounding it, the church had disagreement. It shows that diverse views in a church exist. Having a common ground on certain issues is what is necessary.
God is not o God of disorder and confusion yet no Jehovah witness can explain why their Jehovah favors accepting some forms blood fractions over the others.

We are one association of brotherhood. We hold the same doctrine and values and there is no distinction amongst us. No other organization of earth can ever boast of such oneness. Jesus said just as he and his father are one, so we should be one

And so? Amish, fundamentalist latter Day Saints, Judaism, Muslims etc all say the same thing it doesn't make them the true religion


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Apparently, we are the only global organization of over 8 million active members working together in selfless love and respect for each other; The only organization to hold a consistent view globally and having a strong conviction in the message that they carry; The only organization known for its members to walk into a shrine to spread a message of hope to a voodoo priest and not to criticize him, consult him or burn his shrine

Morning say the same thing and they are twice your number yet their movement started the same time with your own.

The only organization that sustains itself without collecting tithes;

Muslims don't collect tithe. They don't even make public announcement for members to donate for world wide work.
Your leaders constantly remind it's members to donate money, stocks, bonds, jewelry, property and free services and even has a guide to donating on their website. Even if it doesn't sustain itself on tithe, members of the organization contribute financially and materially to it. Money doesn't fall from trees. At the end of the day all organized religions get money from only their members.

The only religious organization that publicly announces its finances;

Publicly announcing your finances doesn't make you the true religion. Most religions publish their annual income and expenditure. It's nothing new.

The only organization that practices 1 Corinthians 5:13 and still stands;

Thank God the Bible said expel the immoral person among you. I am aware disfellowshipped people still attend meetings before they can get reinstated. You don't practice what that verse says at all. You practice what your leaders say the verse meant. You still stand because you practice shunning and because the immoral people still come to meetings. that you practice Shunning doesn't make you the true religion.

The only organization that can hold a convention without the presence of the military or police

But when there is problem you call the police. Last last all religions need the police to maintain law and order. That gassing in Angola I am aware the wordly police intervened.

The only organization spending milliards of hours day and night, in the city and in the jungle, to the mountain and to the valley just to spread a message of hope without getting paid;

I am aware bethelites get monthly stipends so don't give rubbish explanation. Mormons are twice your size yet they started the same time with you. No be only jungle and city. I think all religions evangelize it isn't in any way perculiar to your sect.

The only organization that believes in Revelation 21:3-4 and Matthew 5:5;10

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And the only religion who doesn't believe in the verses before and after those verses. SMH. Thank God revelation said new heavens and a new earth and not heaven on earth or paradise earth. Since you are the meek good for you. I am the peacemaker, the poor in spirit, merciful, righteous etc. Because I am going to heaven that is the place your 7 old men in New York told you they are going to

In South Africa, Afrikaner Pentecostals would not allow blacks Pentecostal into their Church.

It can happen anywhere. I heard your founding fathers where racists too. The way you heard this one I also heard yours. I heard the governing body members have luxury apartments in Warwick and the servants or maids, bricklayers, Electricians live in dormitories. Therefore segregation based on social status within the organization exists just like worldly societies.

You cannot stand before your Pentecostal G.O, you must go on your knees or bow.

It's similar to the way you feel those 7 old men in New York are the only communication channel between yourself and God and their bible interpretation is law until they decide to change it. It's the same thing

No, Ma'am! Do not compare Christianity to Pentecostalism. They are not synonymous and we know the 'T'. LOL

They are better. Your religion and Pentecostalism have similar origin. But they are better. They don't shun and they accept blood transfusion.

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Peacefullove:


Nope, who own the Copyright Lol . ?

The Owner of the image owns the credit . You Wont say your daughter was made in your image because you take part in her coming to earth , or because she is human as you , will you ?

Jesus didn't own the image, he was given . the Giver owns the credit

@bold where was it written that Jesus was given the image of God?

Peacefullove:


I don't know your problem, Ruach means spirit . Ruach appeared in verse 19 and 21 . it reads man and animal have same Ruach .


so its clear , if your ENGLISH translator like they should change it to whatever they like . it still remains man and animal have same Ruach ( Spirit) .


so you make no reasonable point . using the work of English translator to confuse yourself .

Animals have spirit according to verse 21 , So its obvious verse 19 can read Sprit too ( Check the footnote of NIV Bible , it was indicated there )

so upgrade and learn

do you even know the meaning of context?

solite3:
do you even know the meaning of context?

the JW's and some Christians don't understand context....

Ferisidowu:

the JW's and some Christians don't understand context....

they just so blind

Explain what you mean by context

Ferisidowu:

the JW's and some Christians don't understand context....

removetheturban:
Explain what you mean by context

context is easy surprised you asking this you can Google for more info

1) context has to do with the aim of the letter
2) those it's written directly to
3) the understanding of the scriptures by Early church members and apostles
4)the scope and message ..

e.g the context of Galatians is justification by faith not by works .....
it fulfils point 1-4

You find it difficult to answer simple questions.

Using your eagle eyesight, can you tell me if the Holy spirit dropped its Godship before coming to the earth to take up the flesh of a dove at Jesus' baptism?

What is the context of these two Bible verses?
Ephesians 1:3 Praised be[b] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Chris[/b]t, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ

Genesis 17:4 “As for me, look! my covenant is with you, and you will certainly become a father of many nations

solite3:
they just so blind

Question: "Why is it important to study the Bible in context?
What is wrong with taking verses out of context?"

Answer: It's important to study Bible passages and stories within their context. Taking verses out of context leads to all kinds of error and misunderstanding. Understanding context begins with four principles: literal meaning (what it says),

historical setting (the events of the story, to whom is it addressed, and how it was understood at that time), grammar (the immediate sentence and paragraph within which a word or phrase is found) and synthesis (comparing it with other parts of Scripture for a fuller meaning). Context is crucial to biblical exegesis in that it is one of its most important fundamentals. After we account for the literal, historical, and grammatical nature of a passage, we must then focus on the outline and structure of the book, then the chapter, then the paragraph. All of these things refer to "context." To illustrate, it is like looking at Google Maps and zooming in on one house.
Taking phrases and verses out of context always leads to misunderstanding. For instance, taking the phrase "God is love" ( 1 John 4:7-16 ) out of its context, we might come away thinking that our God loves everything and everyone at all times with a gushing, romantic love. But in its literal and grammatical context, “love” here refers to agape love, the essence of which is sacrifice for the benefit of another, not a sentimental, romantic love. The historical context is also crucial, because John was addressing believers in the first century church and instructing them not on God’s love per se, but on how to identify true believers from false professors. True love—the sacrificial, beneficial kind—is the mark of the true believer (v. 7), those who do not love do not belong to God (v. , God loved us before we loved Him (vv. 9-10), and all of this is why we should love one another and thereby prove that we are His (v. 11-12).
Furthermore, considering the phrase "God is love" in the context of all of Scripture (synthesis) will keep us from coming to the false, and all-too-common, conclusion that God is only love or that His love is greater than all His other attributes, which is simply not the case. We know from many other passages that God is also holy and righteous, faithful and trustworthy, graceful and merciful, kind and compassionate, omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, and many, many other things. We also know from other passages that God not only loves,
but He also hates.
The Bible is the Word of God, literally "God-breathed" ( 2 Timothy 3:16 ), and we are commanded to read, study, and understand it through the use of good Bible study methods and always with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to guide us ( 1 Corinthians 2:14 ). Our study is greatly enhanced by maintaining diligence in the use of context because it is quite easy to come to wrong conclusions by taking phrases and verses out of context. It is not difficult to point out places that seemingly contradict other portions of Scripture, but if we carefully look at their context and use the entirety of Scripture as a reference, we can understand the meaning of a passage. “Context is king” means that the context often drives the meaning of a phrase. To ignore context is to put ourselves at a tremendous disadvantage.

removetheturban:
You find it difficult to answer simple questions.

Using your eagle eyesight, can you tell me if the Holy spirit dropped its Godship before coming to the earth to take up the flesh of a dove at Jesus' baptism?

What is the context of these two Bible verses?
Ephesians 1:3 Praised be[b] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Chris[/b]t, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ

Genesis 17:4 “As for me, look! my covenant is with you, and you will certainly become a father of many nations

Even your question isn't in right context of this argument

Ferisidowu:


context is easy surprised you asking this you can Google for more info

We ask to learn.

Ferisidowu:

1) context has to do with the aim of the letter

John 20:17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

What is the aim of the emboldened above?

Ferisidowu:

2) those it's written directly to

John 20:17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

Who was the emboldened written to?

Ferisidowu:

3) the understanding of the scriptures by Early church members and apostles

John 20:17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

How did the early Church members understand Jesus' words in the emboldened above having in mind their written after his death in the following verses:

Ephesians 1:3 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ

1 Corinthians 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.

Ferisidowu:

4)the scope and message ..

What is the scope and message in the following verses:
John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

Matthew 24:36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father

Ferisidowu:


e.g the context of Galatians is justification by faith not by works .....
it fulfils point 1-4

So, the entire book of Galatians is contextualised to mean "faith not works"?

There has never been an argument. Though, for the sake of forgiveness, kindly reconstruct my question to the right context and answer the question that I asked you.

Ferisidowu:


Even your question isn't in right context of this argument

removetheturban:

The Bible says that in the last days imposters will arise performing many works of iniquities. So are these the men that you revere today? I notice how you stand in defence of them LOL.
I do not celebrate Christmas and new year. And why do you celebrate them? Do you have a biblical instruction to celebrate it? How do you distinguish yourself from Pagans on days like this?

the first difference between tge power of God and dat of devil is dat d power of devil holds captive and the power of God liberates. Where the Spirit of God is, there is liberty. How do you explain a drunk getting empowered to quit drinking totally or any form of addiction?how do you explain a furious person like a beast becoming like a lamb? How can the devil help us to be better people? Doesn't make biblical sense

WOULD YOU BE MAN ENOUGH TO TENDER AN APOLOGY TO THE JEHOVAH's WITNESSES FOR YOUR IRREVERENT AND BLASPHEMOUS COMMENTS?

Deuteronomy 12:23

New Living Translation
But never consume the blood, for the blood is the life, and you must not consume the lifeblood with the meat.

International Standard Version
Only be sure to refrain from eating blood, because blood is the source of life and you must not consume blood with the meat.

Deuteronomy 12:16

New Living Translation
But you must not consume the blood. You must pour it out on the ground like water.

International Standard Version
Only, you must not consume the blood; instead, pour it out on the ground as you would water.

Acts 15:20

New Living Translation
Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood.

Deuces or aces?

Hairyrapunzel:

It is called context. Bible says do not eat blood of animals meant for food and sacrifice. Or is it that you people forget that part?
Its only Watchtower magazine that abstain from consuming blood is seen. Eat and consume are synonymous. But consume also means other things. Blood can be eaten as food and used during transfusions they both mean entirely different thing. Why assume that bible says abstain from consuming blood when the bible is specific saying do not eat blood of animals meant for food and sacrifice?

Why do you people leave out the part of not eating blood of animals meant for food and sacrifice.
I know blood components are allowed. Then if you say your Jehovah asked you to abstain from consuming blood, then explain why using blood components and eating blood sausages are allowed. What is the biblical verse that supports your doctrines.

This is a Christian forum so do not tell us about Muslim organisations. You can go over to their forum and free yourself.

JW are not looking to populate our organisation, we are looking for sincere-hearted ones. Save your hate and APOLOGIZE

I agree with that power of God. Evidently, that is not the kind of power that the men display. Healing and not rehabilitation. A magical or extraterrestrial display of works that are beyond what a miracle should be. And the one thing is that they are all caught on camera.

Let me ask you this question. Why doesn't the cameraman ever fall under the power?

salvation101:
the first difference between tge power of God and dat of devil is dat d power of devil holds captive and the power of God liberates. Where the Spirit of God is, there is liberty. How do you explain a drunk getting empowered to quit drinking totally or any form of addiction?how do you explain a furious person like a beast becoming like a lamb? How can the devil help us to be better people? Doesn't make biblical sense

removetheturban:
We ask to learn.
John 20:17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

What is the aim of the emboldened above?
John 20:17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

Who was the emboldened written to? John 20:17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

How did the early Church members understand Jesus' words in the emboldened above having in mind their written after his death in the following verses:

Ephesians 1:3 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for he has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in union with Christ

1 Corinthians 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.
What is the scope and message in the following verses:
John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.

Matthew 24:36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father
So, the entire book of Galatians is contextualised to mean "faith not works"?

You seem not to have discerned that am not in this argument with you . I only wanted you to know what context is .....

In context of what you quoted God is Jesus father even greater than him .... That's the context of the places you quoted no true person who attest to Trinity says God isnt greater than the earthly manifested Christ...

What we affirm is that he is in the same nature as his father and he isn't a molecule or atom (so to say) behind his father .... Oh that's why he humbled himself and according to his mediatorial office he is the son ...
But according to his divine nature ..... He is the same as God .... Co eternal ... Equal ... One with his father

Concerning the book of Galatians ... Its context is justification by faith....
I can more cheerfully discourse this with you .....

Ferisidowu:
You seem not to have discerned that am not in this argument with you . I only wanted you to know what context is .....

No one here is below 18, I guess. Coming here only to teach people about contextualisation is insulting. You do not know the level of education attained by any of the contributors in this forum. The veracity of it all is that I am not here to argue with anyone and I do not believe some of the contributors will be happy to argue over issues. Most of us convene to have a discussion here as Christians and iron out issues. We do not necessarily have to agree but everyone's belief should be respected. As humans, we do cross the line sometimes and endeavour to prove a point in a cantankerous manner, which is crazy. Nevertheless, the ultimate goal should be to interchange and align our doctrines and faiths with the Bible. I mean, there is a reason why we assembled in a religion section.

Ferisidowu:

In context of what you quoted God is Jesus father even greater than him .... That's the context of the places you quoted no true person who attest to Trinity says God isnt greater than the earthly manifested Christ...

Is God greater than Jesus or greater than the earthly Jesus? Is there a heavenly Jesus and an earthly Jesus?

Ferisidowu:

What we affirm is that he is in the same nature as his father and he isn't a molecule or atom (so to say) behind his father ....

When you said nature, can you explain in detail what you mean?

Ferisidowu:
Oh that's why he humbled himself and according to his mediatorial office he is the son ...

Office Before he became a mediator, what was he?

Ferisidowu:

But according to his divine nature ..... He is the same as God .... Co eternal ... Equal ... One with his father

Does your comment correspond with Colossians 1:15 and Ephesians 1:3?

Ferisidowu:

Concerning the book of Galatians ... Its context is justification by faith....
I can more cheerfully discourse this with you .....

Can you differentiate between context and content?

removetheturban:

No one here is below 18, I guess. Coming here only to teach people about contextualisation is insulting. You do not know the level of education attained by any of the contributors in this forum. The veracity of it all is that I am not here to argue with anyone and I do not believe some of the contributors will be happy to argue over issues. Most of us convene to have a discussion here as Christians and iron out issues. We do not necessarily have to agree but everyone's belief should be respected. As humans, we do cross the line sometimes and endeavour to prove a point in a cantankerous manner, which is crazy. Nevertheless, the ultimate goal should be to interchange and align our doctrines and faiths with the Bible. I mean, there is a reason why we assembled in a religion section.
Is God greater than Jesus or greater than the earthly Jesus? Is there a heavenly Jesus and an earthly Jesus?
When you said nature, can you explain in detail what you mean? Office Before he became a mediator, what was he? Does your comment correspond with Colossians 1:15 and Ephesians 1:3?
Can you differentiate between context and content?

I will answer you in your words . .. why ask me to differentiate BTW context and content isn't that ridiculous?

since our views don't matter to you why engage us.......

that's why I don't stay long on jw threads.....
not that they are good debaters but they never engage you to learn .... they attack you and say the source of something is paganism ... as if dates ,,,some clothing ,,,calendar ,,,,,,device were not gotten from pagan source ....

since you know better let it be ......

if you want to talk about Galatians in context no problems if not you win your debate

thanks a lot

removetheturban:
I agree with that power of God. Evidently, that is not the kind of power that the men display. Healing and not rehabilitation. A magical or extraterrestrial display of works that are beyond what a miracle should be. And the one thing is that they are all caught on camera.

Let me ask you this question. Why doesn't the cameraman ever fall under the power?

first, u av programmed ur mind to see dat those power are from men hence u will see nothing good in dem.. I told u about Pete Cabrera, av u seen any of his videos? Does anyone look like wat u just talked about? "How Jesus of Nazareth went everywhere doing good, healing all oppressed by the devil".. Do u agree dat d devil still oppresses today? If u do, do u think Jesus has stopped doing good and healing ppl oppressed by the devil? Do u want to refute the fact that God has been changing lives and delivering the oppressed? Blind eyes start seeing and u attribute dat to devil?

Ferisidowu:


I will answer you in your words . .. why ask me to differentiate BTW context and content isn't that ridiculous?

No! You made a wrong statement and I will recommend that you ponder over those two words before making such conclusive remarks.

Ferisidowu:

since our views don't matter to you why engage us.......

I never said that your views were invalid. I only asked you some questions and I expected answers in return.

Ferisidowu:

that's why I don't stay long on jw threads.....

No! You only disappear when I ask you questions. Go through our previous convos and you will discover that many questions were not answered.

Ferisidowu:

not that they are good debaters but they never engage you to learn ....

JW do not come like newborns for you to breastfeed. We come here somehow prepared. We are always ready to make a defence of the truth. The Bible is before you and before us. We are not debaters but proclaimers of the good news. Did you think that we are morons you will just give instructions to and we will run with it? Prove that you have the good news by answering my questions. JW do that every time. We knock at doors and answer questions from many people with joy. If you want to be a good debater, you must be poised and convincing.

Ferisidowu:

they attack you and say the source of something is paganism ... as if dates ,,,some clothing ,,,calendar ,,,,,,device were not gotten from pagan source ....

Even in Jesus day, the coin having the face of Caesar was not a Jewish item. You must understand that the above items you listed, are not doctrines.
Date is not Pagan. It is time or nature. Are you referring to the fruit called date palm? It is also biblical. Are you referring to Calendar?

Ferisidowu:

since you know better let it be ......

No one ever claimed that

Ferisidowu:

if you want to talk about Galatians in context no problems if not you win your debate

thanks a lot

No one is here to debate with you. It is not our motive. you made a comment that we do not understand the meaning of "context" and the other one said that we argue blindly. It turns out that you cannot explain to me the basic things you said that we are ignorant of.

Is the entire Bible in context? The deal is, whatever Bible verse that agrees with your doctrine is in line while whatever verse that opposes your doctrine should be in context.
Nopes!

removetheturban:
No! You made a wrong statement and I will recommend that you ponder over those two words before making such conclusive remarks.
I never said that your views were invalid. I only asked you some questions and I expected answers in return.
No! You only disappear when I ask you questions. Go through our previous convos and you will discover that many questions were not answered. JW do not come like newborns for you to feed. We come here somehow prepared. We are always ready to make a defense of the truth. The Bible is before you and before us. We are not debaters but proclaimers of the good news. Did you think that we are morons you will just give instructions to and we will run with it? Prove that you have the good news by answering my questions. JW do that every time. We knock at doors and answer questions from many people with joy. If you want to be a good debater, you must be poised and convincing. Even in Jesus day, the coin having the face of Caesar was not a Jewish item. You must understand that the above items you listed, are not doctrines.
Date is not Pagan. It is time or nature. Are you referring to the fruit called date palm? It is also biblical. Are you referring to Calendar?
No one ever claimed that
No one is here to debate with you. It is not our motive. you made a comment that we do not understand the meaning of "context" and the other one said that we argue blindly. It turns out that you cannot explain to me the basic things you said that we are ignorant of.

Is the entire Bible in context? The deal is, whatever Bible verse that agrees with your doctrine is in line while whatever verse that opposes your doctrine should be in context.
Nopes!

thanks you win ....... Tell me the fact ... don't you want me to believe that Jesus isn't divine , that he was a created being?
and you said its not a debate , lolz

what is the gospel
define the gospel from the Bible....

removetheturban:
No! You made a wrong statement and I will recommend that you ponder over those two words before making such conclusive remarks.
I never said that your views were invalid. I only asked you some questions and I expected answers in return.
No! You only disappear when I ask you questions. Go through our previous convos and you will discover that many questions were not answered. JW do not come like newborns for you to breastfeed. We come here somehow prepared. We are always ready to make a defence of the truth. The Bible is before you and before us. We are not debaters but proclaimers of the good news. Did you think that we are morons you will just give instructions to and we will run with it? Prove that you have the good news by answering my questions. JW do that every time. We knock at doors and answer questions from many people with joy. If you want to be a good debater, you must be poised and convincing. Even in Jesus day, the coin having the face of Caesar was not a Jewish item. You must understand that the above items you listed, are not doctrines.
Date is not Pagan. It is time or nature. Are you referring to the fruit called date palm? It is also biblical. Are you referring to Calendar?
No one ever claimed that
No one is here to debate with you. It is not our motive. you made a comment that we do not understand the meaning of "context" and the other one said that we argue blindly. It turns out that you cannot explain to me the basic things you said that we are ignorant of.

Is the entire Bible in context? The deal is, whatever Bible verse that agrees with your doctrine is in line while whatever verse that opposes your doctrine should be in context.
Nopes!

lolz prove to me from the Bible that God has no beginning

removetheturban:
No! You made a wrong statement and I will recommend that you ponder over those two words before making such conclusive remarks.
I never said that your views were invalid. I only asked you some questions and I expected answers in return.
No! You only disappear when I ask you questions. Go through our previous convos and you will discover that many questions were not answered. JW do not come like newborns for you to breastfeed. We come here somehow prepared. We are always ready to make a defence of the truth. The Bible is before you and before us. We are not debaters but proclaimers of the good news. Did you think that we are morons you will just give instructions to and we will run with it? Prove that you have the good news by answering my questions. JW do that every time. We knock at doors and answer questions from many people with joy. If you want to be a good debater, you must be poised and convincing. Even in Jesus day, the coin having the face of Caesar was not a Jewish item. You must understand that the above items you listed, are not doctrines.
Date is not Pagan. It is time or nature. Are you referring to the fruit called date palm? It is also biblical. Are you referring to Calendar?
No one ever claimed that
No one is here to debate with you. It is not our motive. you made a comment that we do not understand the meaning of "context" and the other one said that we argue blindly. It turns out that you cannot explain to me the basic things you said that we are ignorant of.

Is the entire Bible in context? The deal is, whatever Bible verse that agrees with your doctrine is in line while whatever verse that opposes your doctrine should be in context.
Nopes!

lolz what's a debate

be sincere with yourself don't you want me to accept your doctrines concerning Jesus?

Hahahaha. I have seen your miracles. No comment. I will not judge you.
Let me ask you. Do you have such power?

salvation101:
first, u av programmed ur mind to see dat those power are from men hence u will see nothing good in dem.. I told u about Pete Cabrera, av u seen any of his videos? Does anyone look like wat u just talked about? "How Jesus of Nazareth went everywhere doing good, healing all oppressed by the devil".. Do u agree dat d devil still oppresses today? If u do, do u think Jesus has stopped doing good and healing ppl oppressed by the devil? Do u want to refute the fact that God has been changing lives and delivering the oppressed? Blind eyes start seeing and u attribute dat to devil?

I am not here for a debate I am here for a 'discussion' based on the Bible. It is called a forum for Christians, a place for interchange. I hope we get to iron out the issues on the ground. It will be of benefit to us.

Ferisidowu:

lolz what's a debate
be sincere with yourself don't you want me to accept your doctrines concerning Jesus?

removetheturban:
Hahahaha. I have seen your miracles. No comment. I will not judge you.
Let me ask you. Do you have such power?

u obviously didn't go tru Pete's video else u wouldn't be asking me dat questions. One of the first things he usually makes clear that he isn't superhuman and usually encourages ppl who believes to do d same things he does even on camera. Yep i av prayed for myself nd ppl and Jesus didn't disappoint me cos He has promised me in His word dat He is with me always. I was born into a pentecostal church but my parents were initially orthodox. My parents saw d light wen my grandpa was healed from stroke after the prayers of two pentecostal chaps who were going on door to door evangelism in d 1980s. That single event convinced the whole household and most of the children moved to d pentecostal church cos wen Jesus is lifted he draws men to himself

removetheturban:



Just have the fear of God and be honest with the truth. Catholics are more definitive in their responses. A Catholic will tell you where he belongs outright. Sneaking into the shoes of Christianity is callow.

You are just afraid of shunning and getting slaughtered by your Jehovah in Armageddon.
Why is it that you people can never talk about your religion without smearing the name of the Catholic Church? What did they do to your organization? Even Catholics don't say bad things about you people the way you talk about them.

Just tell me the name of your Church. I am proud to be a JW. Go far and wide, everyone knows what that means

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Where in the Bible did they say you will get salvation when you attend a particular sect? Mention it. The only place where you will see associating with a particular sect or denomination will earn you salvation is watchtower publications

2 Corinthians 6:17 “‘Therefore, get out from among them, and separate yourselves,’ says Jehovah, ‘and quit touching the unclean thing’”; “‘and I will take you in.’” 18 “‘And I will become a father to you, and you will become sons and daughters to me,’ says Jehovah,* the Almighty.”
The Bible gave us a command above and we obeyed. The thing is that you call yourselves 'mainsteam religion'. We are not Mainstream, we are Jehovah's witnesses. We do not entertain Hellenistic doctrines and celebrations. There is no other way but to come out of yous. The Bible's message is clear and we must obey.

Become like the Amish then we will see you people as separating yourselves from unclean thing. Your religion screams CULT. Rutherford stopped you guys from having celebrations in 1926 because he wanted you to cut off relationship with your non jw family cos he thought they where going to be slaughtered by his Jehovah and would increase the pain amongst his followers in his imaginary new system. It was a way to increase the dedication of his followers to his cause. Cult leaders use these tactics to enable followers increase their commitment to them

The killing and warring and contention and racism and competition and extortion and etc that go on in the mainstream, we do not want to be a part of.

Like I said before there is segregation according to status within your organization. Don't come here and tell us rubbish.

Imagine how many Pentecostals that Pentecostals killed during the wars. Imagine the hate that Pentecostals have for the Hausa people not thinking that there are also Hausa people who are Christians in the North or Hausa people who can become Christians. Imagine the loot and rape of widows' purses that Pentecostal Churches do every day. Imagine the tribalism in Pentecostal Churches in Nigeria. Imagine how many Pentecostal Hutus were killed by Pentecostal Tutsis during the civil war in Rwanda. Imagine how many Pentecostal Biafrans that Pentecostal Nigerians killed during the civil war. Imagine how many Pentecostal pastors that have been busted involved in heinous crimes and fraud and even looting of government funds and frolicking with thieves and embezzlers.

You people's normal line of reasoning. Well it's only in your imagination that Pentecostals did this. You want to breed hatred of Pentecostals by saying this. It wasn't mentioned that Hutu Pentecostals killed Tutsi Pentecostals what we have is hutus killing Tutsi. It wasn't a religious fight but rather a tribal genocide. You are attacking the straw man.

Of recent your organization has been preaching that unrighteous riches can be made righteous by donating it to watchtower organization. So after you embezzle funds in your worldly life you donate it to watchtower so it will become clean and your sins will be washed away. Clap for yourself. Your religion is just like the others. That means it's a scam and racket.

John Lennon says 'IMAGINE'. Are you, a Pentecostal coming to judge me? Are you referring to the victims that you victimized? They were normal people going about their businesses but you took up devastating war artilleries and destroyed their hopes and families and claim to send reliefs

Well, John Lennon's only word there is " imagine." that means it's imaginary. John Lennon is a worldly person so I don't think he was referring to your new system that comes after your Jehovah has killed billions of non jws. My take on the matter is this: when we start doing the right things and live peacefully, then the world we be a better place. I don't believe joining an organization that says their Jehovah will destroy all non jws because they refuse to pay allegiance to watchtower so 8 million can inherit earth because they consider themselves meek is any better.
At least they sent relief the only thing you send is magazines.


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JW have been in the forefront in self-sacrificing their time and resources. Tell me about your selfless relief efforts, lady. We do not kill our neighbours and we do not go to war. Read the news and get informed

Sacrificing their time distributing magazines because they fear dying in Armageddon. You do not kill your neighbor but want your God to slaughter them and vultures to eat their corpses because they refused to believe what you believe. Let me hear word.

Are you going to deny that Pentecostals engaged in the killing of Igbos in Udi?

Source please.

You cannot feign oblivion here, baby girl. Haha. You have not enough weapons in the world. I know your sources of information. That is why I will keep referring you to the actual sources. It took you two days to get that single article that I asked for. It shows that you never do any research concerning the malicious lies that you promulgate.

So ban on organ transplant and vaccination for 27 and 13 years by your organization is now a lie right? Watchtower articles are now lies. Is it new light to consider old beliefs lies?

So far so good I am sure that you have learned some truth concerning the lies that you have told and the ones on those sites.

Which truths? It's only bashing of Christians I have seen. She showed you articles concerning your ban on organ transplant and vaccine describing them as cannibalism. Who does that? Only watchtower. So I should consider people who once described having organ transplant and vaccination as engaging in cannibalism as the only true religion on earth I think your jehovah is a prick because he likes passing the wrong information.

We have been dealing with anti-JW for hundreds of years. We keep increasing because people are seeing the truth and no matter what you do, you cannot stop the work of Jehovah. You are not pro-Christ, you are anti-JW.
We do not care about your anti-JW sites and we have no time to make a response blog. We focus on what is more important, sounding the words of the truth. Jesus gave us an assignment in Matthew 24:14 so we have to listen to our king rather than going low with anti-JW bloggers. They are hiding behind their anonymous lives. No one knows them (including you. What CHURCH do you represent?). They are not credible sources. You do not know what organizations they belong. You cannot hold them accountable for their blog posts. They are not an authority. Not a match! You can hold us responsible for our materials

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Thanks to the exjw bloggers. Now we know the dangers of joining your religion. You don't expect me to get the truth about your beliefs from jw. Org. They are authorities because they use watchtowers own words to criticize them.

Simple question and you have been dragging it for eons. What Church do you represent?

Like name of the church matters. She told you she attends salvation ministry and you are still asking.

You know that you are guilty and that is why you cannot answer that question. 1 Corinthians 11:14 explains you and your cohort as masquerades pretending to be angels of the light

You are the person pretending to be an angel of light. You claim your religion is the truth yet you do evil things that lead to death. Angel of light pretender

Come out in your own toxic skins if you will not be dragged around with the truth. We are JW and we are here in your faces amidst the insults and blasphemy. We are always ready to defend the truth about God's kingdom; always knocking at your doors to preach the good news about Jehovah. You are not our problems; the Bible says that we are fighting against the evil one, the one masterminding you. You are pained that millions are realizing the lies that you have told against us.

Good news that your Jehovah is coming to kill all non jws. Is that one the good news?
You preach what's not seen in the bible or rather, your doctrines are based on assumptions and yet you talk about blasphemy. You are just too funny

Imagine y'all being dragged by a single man (a fellow Trinitarian, DADDY FREEZE) and you cannot defend your doctrine before him. You need to answer to Daddy Freeze before coming for the JW. Imagine how he has been humiliating the revered men that you call Pentecostal warlords using the word of God. That is why you will NEVER reveal the name of your Church. You know deep in your heart that you are very guilty of so many ills and twists.

Daddy freeze has his own views. At least tithe is mentioned in the Bible. Blood transfusion isn't shunning isn't, governing body isn't, organization isn't, governing body as the only channel of communication between God and man ain't even in the Bible. Yet you call daddy freeze mtcheww. Face front

Absolutely! That is what the movement implies to you. Pentecostal is a movement and that movement is your religion. Ludicrous! I would not waste my time digging up your trash. It is trivial to me. That is not what I am here for. I only presented some meals prepared by your fellow Trinitarians for you to digest. I didn’t even care to read it because I know the score

Why all the noise when you are just like Pentecostals?
Always persecuting Christians because of their beliefs. Everything about Christendom is considered pagan yet they don't change their doctrines like you people do.

If I would go that route you will only get violent and aggressive like the others. Your skin is made of glass. I trust you for one thing, you will never sink with any ship. Which one? You keep jumping from one topic to another. You are simply broadcasting. You never stay to finish anything because you just do not want to admit. You simply consult Hairyrap or whatever or anti-JW blogs for distracting topics I hear you. I can give you more links to anti-JW blogs to get more information if you desire.

Jw.org is anti Christendom too. Birds of a feather flock together. You ain't different. Always playing the blame game

You sound very frail on some of these issues. It took you two days to get a single article. I will not insult or attack your religion. I pray for you. We still love you all and that is why we stop by to bring you the message of the kingdom of God. Which of the teachings are you referring? Exposing the truth about Hellfire? Purgatory? Limbo? Tithing? Christmas? Easter? Trinity? Santa "Cross"? or...

All your doctrines ain't even in the Bible. They are all based on assumptions. They love the teaching like that. The way you can explain your own that's the way they can explain theirs.

Talking about pathological liars, you said that Christ left his Godship in heaven and took up flesh. Then you said that the three Gods convened at Jesus' baptism. How can the Godship that he left in heaven suddenly assemble on earth with other Gods when he was still in the flesh? Did he have a spirit when he was on earth or did he leave it in heaven? If he left his Godship in heaven and the three Gods convened to form the Godhead, did the Holy 'Spirit' also leave its Godship and took up the flesh of a dove? Did the Gods convene or did flesh and God convene? Do you want to change that lie or do you want to continue in it. You thought you could use that as a base but you sank your cruise ship yourself in Bermuda. When Stephen looked into the heaven, did he name the Holy Spirit as one of the two entities that he saw in Heaven? Didn't you discredit the account of an apostle, Matthew and claimed that Matthew was wrong in his write up? You did not know the languages spoken in Israel at the time and you concluded? Didn't you say that we BANNED organ transplant when the matter was left for each member to decide their own choice of medical treatment? Who really is a liar?

Your leaders have lied to you about trinity doctrine for 149 years so it's expected.

removetheturban:
WOULD YOU BE MAN ENOUGH TO TENDER AN APOLOGY TO THE JEHOVAH's WITNESSES FOR YOUR IRREVERENT AND BLASPHEMOUS COMMENTS?

Deuteronomy 12:23

New Living Translation
But never consume the blood, for the blood is the life, and you must not consume the lifeblood with the meat.

International Standard Version
Only be sure to refrain from eating blood, because blood is the source of life and you must not consume blood with the meat.

Deuteronomy 12:16

New Living Translation
But you must not consume the blood. You must pour it out on the ground like water.

International Standard Version
Only, you must not consume the blood; instead, pour it out on the ground as you would water.

Acts 15:20

New Living Translation
Instead, we should write and tell them to abstain from eating food offered to idols, from sexual immorality, from eating the meat of strangled animals, and from consuming blood.

Deuces or aces?


This is a Christian forum so do not tell us about Muslim organisations. You can go over to their forum and free yourself.

JW are not looking to populate our organisation, we are looking for sincere-hearted ones. Save your hate and APOLOGIZE

No be only tender apology. Mtcheww. Propagandist.