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Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:36am On Dec 15, 2017 |
Was Jesus being rude to Mary when He referred to her as "woman"? Why didn't Jesus show more respect to His mother in John 2:4? |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by HeyCorleone(m): 10:48am On Dec 15, 2017 |
I don't understand the disrespect you're meaning here. Isn't she a woman? Besides, Jesus is begotten of God. He didn't have to attach any special attention or reverence to Mary. Still he doesn't mean he didn't respect here. The fact that he honoured her every wish is surefire proof. |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by PaChukwudi44(m): 10:52am On Dec 15, 2017 |
so you want to also start calling her woman? |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by emmie14: 10:52am On Dec 15, 2017 |
Jesus is not from Nigeria or Africa. Different countries different tradition. So people have tradition of calling there parents by name doesn't mean disrespectfulness? 1 Like |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by GraGra247(m): 10:53am On Dec 15, 2017 |
He wasn't trying to disrespect her. He foreknew that in time to come ignorant people will turn her to a deity. He wanted everyone to know that she's only a woman and nothing more. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by wtfcoded: 10:58am On Dec 15, 2017 |
Nnaa Op, no start wetin pass u! |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:27pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
HeyCorleone: Do you refer to your mother as "Woman?" |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:28pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
PaChukwudi44: Who are you directing your question to? |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:29pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
emmie14: What tradition or culture calls their mother by name? |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:30pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
GraGra247: Way to go! |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:31pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
wtfcoded: What do you mean? |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by emmie14: 6:30pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:Bro travel. Ask guys from Europe. South Americans. |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:32pm On Dec 27, 2017 |
emmie14: Thanks for that but Jesus did not call His 'mother' by name, did He? |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:07am On Sep 06, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Suggested answer: https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Mary-woman.html |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by amzounslide95: 4:37pm On Sep 06, 2019 |
Woman (women) stands between the hetero world and the androgynous (uni-form, uni-sex) world envisioned by the masters of the one-world, beehive vision. That which was left imperfect must be perfected. Bluestacks Kodi Lucky Patcher |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by Nobody: 5:07pm On Sep 06, 2019 |
GraGra247:Do you have biblical backing for this assertion of yours? |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by GraGra247(m): 5:30am On Sep 07, 2019 |
asuustrike1: Do you have a biblical backing for using your God given intellect to figure out things. |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by MuttleyLaff: 7:50am On Sep 07, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: GraGra247:The "woman" word usage had nothing to do with guarding against deification or Mary being perceived as a god because as a matter fact, Jesus used the "woman" word for other females on at least on three different ocassions asuustrike1:I dont think he will have any GraGra247:"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat." - Genesis 3:6 "Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception; in sorrow you shall bring forth children; and your desire shall be to your husband, and he shall rule over you." - Genesis 3:16 "And Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does this have to do with me? My hour has not yet come.”" - John 2:4 "10When Jesus had lifted himself up, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those your accusers? has no man condemned you? 11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn you: go, and sin no more." - John 8:10-11 "And when Jesus saw her, He called her to him, and said unto her, Woman, thou art loosed from thine infirmity(i.e. meaning, she henceforth is free from that mental condition which deprived her of enjoying or accomplishing what she would like to do" - Luke 13:12 Jesus' "woman" comment has nothing remotely at all connected to male chauvinism. It has nothing to do with being disrespectful to neither His mother, the woman allegedly caught in the act of adultery or the woman He healed who couldnt lift up herself. People havent cop on to how John 8:11b and Luke 13:12 above was reversing, overturning and negating Genesis 3:16. If you know, you know. Who no know, no go know but las las, we will get there and know. God did not chastise Eve for being a badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman, but He told her off for openly disregarding His express command not to eat of the fruit, this because man's dominion mandate didnt last more than a day though, as everything crumbled and came crashingly tumbling down, in the last hour, as a result of the woman taking off the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil before God's approval of them eating from it. It is the same "woman" spirit in Eve, from Genesis 3:6 above, manifesting in Jesus' mother Mary, as seen in John 2:4 above, that Jesus was talking to you. Equally it also is the same "woman" spirit in Eve, from Genesis 3:6 above, present in John 8:11b and Luke 13:12 that Jesus is seeing, and so addressing His comments to, with reversing, overturning and negating Genesis 3:16 blip. This is Jesus asking the "woman" why do you want to jump the gun again like in Genesis 3:6. It is Jesus letting the "woman" know, she is loosen from the curse of Genesis 3:16. It is Jesus letting the "woman" know, she is is to rise up and be free from the Genesis 3:16 mental condition which deprived her of enjoying or accomplishing what she would like to do Jesus wasn't being rude, He was comforting, He was healing, He was restoring the "woman" |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by GraGra247(m): 10:21am On Sep 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: You simply and ignorantly buttressed my fact by the Bible verses you quoted. He called her WOMAN and not MOTHER. He called her WOMAN, an ordinary common word used to address so many ordinary common females all through the Bible. He simply showed everyone Mary is not a deity and certainly not the MOTHER OF GOD. |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by Nobody: 10:55am On Sep 07, 2019 |
Asking this kind of question not only brings confusion but doesn't speak well of our acclaimed knowledge in Christ. First. Jesus is Lord, the son of God doesn't live by the traditions of this world therefore, that word doesn't signify any disrespect. Why do you as a Christian call Jesus by name, why not just put uncle before the name...God is not a man that he will start to think like us. He created a man and a woman and he therefore calls them by name. Remove your cultural tradition from this question and you LL see that there's nothing wrong there. Mark.5.34 - He said to her, "Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace and be freed from your suffering." Is calling her "daughter" also a disrespect?? Jesus did not come to the world to play mother and son, He came to preach the message of salvation and deliverance. So, it's either you are a believer or unbeleiver. I don't want to go into Mary's discussion. But note that, Jesus made it clear that His only family on earth are the ones who are doing the will of His father. Mark3:35 At Op, please mind the heading you give your posts. If you want to know, say so, if you want to teach, make it clear. Thanks |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by MuttleyLaff: 11:03am On Sep 07, 2019 |
GraGra247:Hmm, now I am beginning to understand the concept behind the meaning of your moniker ID. GraGra247:"When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!" - John 19:26 So when Jesus, in John 8:10-11 and Luke 13:12 called the other two females woman, was He, simply showing everyone they too are not deities and certainly not the MOTHER OF GOD too, hmm? Can you imagine the effect it would have had on Mary, if at that moment of His last dying hours, in John 19:26 above, when Jesus was handing Mary over to and in the care John, He had used the word mother instead of "woman" (i.e. an honorific title), hmm? Mary, technically and by virtue of birthing and nurtured Jesus, is the Mother of God. This cant be denied her, nor taking aware from her, it is more the reason she was addressed by the angel who came unto her in Luke 1:28 & 48, and said, "Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women" |
Re: Was Jesus Being Rude To Mary When He Referred To Her As "Woman"? by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:10pm On Sep 09, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: Question: "Was Jesus being rude to Mary when He referred to her as 'woman' in John 2:4?" |
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