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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by PastorAIO: 7:56pm On Dec 27, 2017
analize701:


The same horsehit you quoted from earlier and you Moslems can't stand on without?

Lol! grin grin grin If only you knew how far the person you were talking to there is from being a moslem....

I bet you see moslems around every corner. In the dark. When you dream (or have nightmares as is probably your case). Under every rock. In your bowl of pap. everywhere. They are coming they are coming. They are coming to take your land and kill you. lolol.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by analize701: 7:58pm On Dec 27, 2017
PastorAIO:


Okay, let's see who the angry, hateful liar is here.

Please compare and contrast the following posts.
























So from the above, who is the person that has been lying from her father for lies since the beginning of this thread? Is it not you. I believe that is about 3 or 4 directly contradicting statements that you have made out of one single mouth. Jesus said when you right hand is doing something don't let your left hand know, but I think he will be shocked to see that you've taken that to the extreme of when your mouth says something immediately the same mouth will be ignorant of it and say something totally contradictory in the next breath.

I kind of feel sorry for you because I can tell that you have a lot of angst and to seek relief you are just lashing out incoherently and islam is one of the things that serves as your kind of punchbag to give you a little bit of relief from your violent torment.
Oga, there's nothing you guys can do to take Jerusalem.

Angry frustrated Muslim is calling another person a angry. When you are done shouting at me, proceed to Jerusalem and take it. hahahahahahahahaha.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by frosbel2: 8:04pm On Dec 27, 2017
analize701:

Oga, there's nothing you guys can do to take Jerusalem.

Angry frustrated Muslim is calling another person a angry. When you are done shouting at me, proceed to Jerusalem and take it. hahahahahahahahaha.

typical brainwashed fanatic!

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by PastorAIO: 8:05pm On Dec 27, 2017
analize701:

Oga, there's nothing you guys can do to take Jerusalem.

Angry frustrated Muslim is calling another person a angry. When you are done shouting at me, proceed to Jerusalem and take it. hahahahahahahahaha.

This ought to be a time for reflection for you. You have blatantly been exposed as a twisted mind that is drenched in mendacity. This is an opportunity for you to grow, to learn. This is not a competition. I don't actually care about Jerusalem. I was drawn to this thread by your outrageous and blatantly mendacious claim that Muhammad attacked Jewish Land.

Here:
https://www.nairaland.com/4244908/why-history-says-jerusalem-belongs/1#63584400

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by PastorAIO: 8:18pm On Dec 27, 2017
Olu317:
Abram wasn't an Hebrew name because he wasn't an Hebrew in the first place but his descendants were identified with such name.


Word Origin and History for Abraham

masc. proper name, name of the first of the patriarchs in the Old Testament, from Hebrew Abraham "father of a multitude," from abh "father" + *raham (cognate with Arabic ruham "multitude"wink; the name he altered from [b]Abram "high father," from second element ram "high, exalted." [/b]Related: Abrahamic.

Genesis 17:5

5"No longer shall your name be called Abram, But your name shall be Abraham; For I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.






Is it just me or is anyone else noticing a trend whereby the most rabid and incoherent drivel is posted by those professing christianity. It is as if they are under some kind of demonic possession.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by analize701: 9:07pm On Dec 27, 2017
frosbel2:

typical brainwashed fanatic!
Frosbel, you are the last person i will waste my time on.
Gerarahia.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Olu317(m): 10:07pm On Dec 27, 2017
PastorAIO:




Genesis 17:5

5"No longer shall your name be called Abram, But your name shall be Abraham; For I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.






Is it just me or is anyone else noticing a trend whereby the most rabid and incoherent drivel is posted by those professing christianity. It is as if they are under some kind of demonic possession.
Do you even know the meaning of drivel? I won't reply you anymore because you have no knowledge of Christianity, talkless whom Abraham was. However, I will let you answer one or two questions openly without quoting me. Show a place in the Bible where Abram was called an Hebrew man? Secondly ,show us, in any archeological finding where Abram was from the land of Hebrew?Please don't quote me again because your kind of words shows that you are intolerant to the truth.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by PastorAIO: 11:05pm On Dec 27, 2017
Olu317:
Do you even know the meaning of drivel? I won't reply you anymore because you have no knowledge of Christianity, talkless whom Abraham was. However, I will let you answer one or two questions openly without quoting me. Show a place in the Bible where Abram was called an Hebrew man? Secondly ,show us, in any archeological finding where Abram was from the land of Hebrew?Please don't quote me again because your kind of words shows that you are intolerant to the truth.

My own question is simple.

Why did a man who was not a Hebrew have a Hebrew name. Abram means 'exalted father' in hebrew. Is it when he was born that they knew that he was going to be an exalted father? Or is that not even possibly a nickname or title that his descendants gave him later?

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Olu317(m): 6:25am On Dec 28, 2017
PastorAIO:


My own question is simple.

Why did a man who was not a Hebrew have a Hebrew name. Abram means 'exalted father' in hebrew. Is it when he was born that they knew that he was going to be an exalted father? Or is that not even possibly a nickname or title that his descendants gave him later?
As I have mentioned earlier which is the correct information about Abram,who was of Chaldean origin within Mesopotamia and I still wait for a genuine information to counter this. As you have quoted the Bible,you should also remember, that the writer of the first set of scroll known as “TORAH"was Moses, who was born in the land of Egypt even bore an Egyptian name known as “MOSES". This solve the question you asked . Moses was the one that mentioned in the scroll, the myth of creation, one God,Abram etc. Furthermore, Hebrew language didn't exist for long because of Israel's captivity . There is no place in the Bible, where Abram was referred as Hebrew's name ,despite your pinned point,which a well studious individual of the Bible will have knowledge of it .Do you now claim God called him Hebrew? Secondly, Israelis language and religion formation developed through Egyptians language and religion . How do you now look up to wiki to determine, Abram's language? He lived in many places before settling finally in Ur, where his descendants dwell before the next face of ancient Israelis and the absolute scattering of the language into different part of the world. This was how Aramaic existed and its near extinction as well.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Rilwayne001: 8:16am On Dec 28, 2017
PastorAIO:


Lol! grin grin grin If only you knew how far the person you were talking to there is from being a moslem....

I bet you see moslems around every corner. In the dark. When you dream (or have nightmares as is probably your case). Under every rock. In your bowl of pap. everywhere. They are coming they are coming. They are coming to take your land and kill you. lolol.

Even when no one is coming for her grin grin grin grin you should by now know that the girl is suffering from a terrible mental illness called schizophrenia. I really pity her condition.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by PastorAIO: 9:53pm On Dec 28, 2017
Olu317:
As I have mentioned earlier which is the correct information about Abram,who was of Chaldean origin within Mesopotamia and I still wait for a genuine information to counter this. As you have quoted the Bible,you should also remember, that the writer of the first set of scroll known as “TORAH"was Moses, who was born in the land of Egypt even bore an Egyptian name known as “MOSES". This solve the question you asked . Moses was the one that mentioned in the scroll, the myth of creation, one God,Abram etc. Furthermore, Hebrew language didn't exist for long because of Israel's captivity . There is no place in the Bible, where Abram was referred as Hebrew's name ,despite your pinned point,which a well studious individual of the Bible will have knowledge of it .Do you now claim God called him Hebrew? Secondly, Israelis language and religion formation developed through Egyptians language and religion . How do you now look up to wiki to determine, Abram's language? He lived in many places before settling finally in Ur, where his descendants dwell before the next face of ancient Israelis and the absolute scattering of the language into different part of the world. This was how Aramaic existed and its near extinction as well.

Abeg, where in the bible did it say that Hebrew 'through Egyptians language and religion'? If you can't find it in the bible I even allow you to bring any other scholarly text comparing the 2 languages.

According to the bible Moses is not an Egyptian name. That is according to the bible o.

10The child grew, and she brought him to Pharaoh's daughter and he became her son. And she named him Moses, and said, "Because I drew him out of the water."

Exodus 2:10


Abram also mean 'Exalted Father' in Hebrew. God changed his name from that to Abraham which means the 'father of many' in hebrew.

So here is a Chaldean man with a hebrew name that corresponds with his later mythological status. The name gets changed to another hebrew name that further depicts his mythological status.

He had a son and named him Isaac which is Hebrew for Laughter, because Isaac's mother laughed when told he would be born.

Why is a Chaldean man speaking Hebrew like this and giving hebrew names to his children?

The only conclusion is that these names could not have been the real names of the characters. These names were given to them many centuries later when their stories were being told and the names were chosen to match their stories. In other words we are firmly in the realm of Myth.

Even the first man Adam. ... This name just means Man in Hebrew. And his wife? Eve, or Ha'wah.. Well that means 'Mother of all living'. How comes they have hebrew names if Hebrews didn't even exist at that time.

lol lol lol.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Olu317(m): 6:10am On Dec 29, 2017
PastorAIO:


Abeg, where in the bible did it say that Hebrew 'through Egyptians language and religion'? If you can't find it in the bible I even allow you to bring any other scholarly text comparing the 2 languages.

According to the bible Moses is not an Egyptian name. That is according to the bible o.

10The child grew, and she brought him to Pharaoh's daughter and he became her son. And she named him Moses, and said, "Because I drew him out of the water."

Exodus 2:10


Abram also mean 'Exalted Father' in Hebrew. God changed his name from that to Abraham which means the 'father of many' in hebrew.

So here is a Chaldean man with a hebrew name that corresponds with his later mythological status. The name gets changed to another hebrew name that further depicts his mythological status.

He had a son and named him Isaac which is Hebrew for Laughter, because Isaac's mother laughed when told he would be born.

Why is a Chaldean man speaking Hebrew like this and giving hebrew names to his children?

The only conclusion is that these names could not have been the real names of the characters. These names were given to them many centuries later when their stories were being told and the names were chosen to match their stories. In other words we are firmly in the realm of Myth.

Even the first man Adam. ... This name just means Man in Hebrew. And his wife? Eve, or Ha'wah.. Well that means 'Mother of all living'. How comes they have hebrew names if Hebrews didn't even exist at that time.

lol lol lol.
If you don't know that Hebrew language developed from Egyptians language, then I am convinced you have not studied many books and people's history. Perhaps, your Biblical perspective has overdrawn your emotions strictly to the Bible's open interpretation without giving specific to its clarification as an Egyptian description to the advent of Moses meaning . Must such be written in the Bible? Do you know the Bible came in contact with the Greek before the English? The Assyrians had a writing method likewise The Persians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Roman Empire etc. The Israelis had no known writing form, no kingdom, no country of their own until Moses manifested through the power of supernatural force known as Eli —ohim (YHWH). What's is your point? Even another pharaoh fought and captured Israel during his campaign through Meggido was known as Necho II. He single-handedly changed the name of Judah's king from Joakin / Joachin/Joachim to Eliakin/Eliakim which testified the might of Egypt. If you claim Moses was an Hebrew name, which is was an Egyptian name because Hebrews language had not developed independently and a pharaoh's princess whose language was kmt (Egyptians) and spoke Egyptians language, in which she used in the descriptive circumstance to name him as Moses. But come on here to denounce such conspicuous info , then I quit.

Cheers

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by orisa37: 7:43am On Dec 29, 2017
Jerusalem spiritually means "The City of God".
And so Donald Trump is an Apostle of God sent to Reserve and Prepare it for Jesus' coming back.
The Yorubas should appeal to Trump to repossess Ilorin for Oduduwa.
And move U.N to Jerusalem!!!

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Hati13(m): 11:48pm On Dec 29, 2017
Olu317,

Semitic and Ancient Egyptian languages didn't have mother-son relationship. They have only common ancestry (Afroasiatic), so this Hebrew didn't develop from Ancient Egyptian language.

Omotic was 1st and Semitic was the last to split from Afroasiatic.

Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Olu317(m): 12:56pm On Dec 30, 2017
Hati13:
Olu317,

Semitic and Ancient Egyptian languages didn't have mother-son relationship. They have only common ancestry (Afroasiatic), so this Hebrew didn't develop from Ancient Egyptian language.

Omotic was 1st and Semitic was the last to split from Afroasiatic.
Yes they do have connection. You need to read books outside Africa authors before you can understand more about the complexity of ancient language of the kmt (Egypt) Language . This classification you referred came barely in 20th century. Do you know the Ibo language is being pointed out to as the ancient Kmt language?Kindly point to any group in Africa speaking Egyptian language if you doubt about my information? If you think the Hebrew language didn't developed out,how did Abram communicated with the Egyptians during his life time? How did his descendants communicated in Kmt during the over 400 years stay in Egypt? Why didn't Moses change his Egyptian(drawn out of water) name after he had contact with God?

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by kolawoleibukun: 1:22pm On Dec 30, 2017
Muslims are thieves who want to take that Jerusalem. Jerusalem has always belonged to the people of Israel. Muslims need to be booted out completely from there.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by BeansAndBread(m): 2:45pm On Dec 30, 2017
kolawoleibukun:
Muslims are thieves who want to take that Jerusalem. Jerusalem has always belonged to the people of Israel. Muslims need to be booted out completely from there.
Olori buruku, alie ni iruno

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by kolawoleibukun: 3:32pm On Dec 30, 2017
BeansAndBread:
Olori buruku, alie ni iruno
ode nie

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by BeansAndBread(m): 3:58pm On Dec 30, 2017
kolawoleibukun:
ode nie
O ni oponu se, won ko e sugbon o gba eko

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by kolawoleibukun: 4:06pm On Dec 30, 2017
BeansAndBread:
O ni oponu se, won ko e sugbon o gba eko
gbenu soun, ole ni e

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by BeansAndBread(m): 4:13pm On Dec 30, 2017
kolawoleibukun:
gbenu soun, ole ni e
Oloshi, yerusalem ti wa ni. Wa ri, Ode buruku

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by kolawoleibukun: 4:22pm On Dec 30, 2017
BeansAndBread:
Oloshi, yerusalem ti wa ni. Wa ri, Ode buruku
ode

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Hati13(m): 1:24pm On Dec 31, 2017
Olu317:
Yes they do have connection. You need to read books outside Africa authors before you can understand more about the complexity of ancient language of the kmt (Egypt) Language . This classification you referred came barely in 20th century. Do you know the Ibo language is being pointed out to as the ancient Kmt language?Kindly point to any group in Africa speaking Egyptian language if you doubt about my information? If you think the Hebrew language didn't developed out,how did Abram communicated with the Egyptians during his life time? How did his descendants communicated in Kmt during the over 400 years stay in Egypt? Why didn't Moses change his Egyptian(drawn out of water) name after he had contact with God?
What I said wasn't proposed by African authors, but by the international linguistic scholars.

Yes the classification come in 20th century AD, but this even make the classification to be authentic compared to the past. Science improve though time, so this means 20th is better than 19th or other century.

Abraham and his descendants communicate with Egyptians using mutual language/s (Egyptian or other language in which both had understood).

According to recent linguistic studies, Semitic languages are more related to Berber languages than Ancient Egyptian language.
Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Alariiwo: 1:39pm On Dec 31, 2017
This is why Yorubas must wake up now and chase these uncultured osus away.

Give them an inch, they will attempt to take a mile and even displace you. People that can comfortably sit and call another man's land a "no man's land"

Later in future, they'll want to lay claim to SW as place of origin and even fight Yorubas.

Cut the iroko to size now before it gets too late.. abo oro la n so fun omoluabi
#Yoruba ronu

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by mildflame: 1:47pm On Dec 31, 2017
analize701:

What was he? A child had outside of marriage is called what in Islam? In Christianity we call them bastards.

Come chop, she want come commot food for madam mouth.

Muslims are thieves. I just pity anyone who allows those creatures close to them.

Animals like dogs and Cats are better as companions that muslims.

Just give them a little space, they will pretend to be humans and bring their smelling folks around, before you know, they'll want you out of your own land.

A child outside marriage is a CHILD in CHRISTIANITY not a BASTARD...
Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by BeijinDossier: 1:47pm On Dec 31, 2017
History and Bible corroborated that Jerusalem is the capital of Jewish nation.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Kennedy767(m): 1:49pm On Dec 31, 2017
analize701:

What was he? A child had outside of marriage is called what in Islam? In Christianity we call them bastards.

Come chop, she want come commot food for madam mouth.

Muslims are thieves. I just pity anyone who allows those creatures close to them.

Animals like dogs and Cats are better as companions that muslims.

Just give them a little space, they will pretend to be humans and bring their smelling folks around, before you know, they'll want you out of your own land.
a child had outside marriage Is called bastard in Christianity?.... guy go n look at the meaning of bastard in dictionary before u keep messing urself up here....n were did u read that in the bible?...FALSE prophet LIKE U... I av never seen that in the bible...maybe u show me here so I read it as well

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Bollinger(m): 1:49pm On Dec 31, 2017
analize701:
Satan came not, but, to steal, to kill and to destroy.


Actually, you got it all wrong. Religion came not, but, to steal, to kill and to destroy. Take Religion out of the equation, sprinkle in some common sense and the world will be a safer place to live in.

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by Terminator1234g: 1:50pm On Dec 31, 2017
analize701:
Satan came not, but, to steal, to kill and to destroy. Take a closer look at Muhammed and Islam from inception.

They kill,

they still

they destroy mostly what belongs to the Christians and Jews.


From Hagar, they have been trying to steal from the Jews.


Hagar was brought in as a surrogate to have a child, she tried to.throw sarah out of her home.


Ismael the bastard son, tried to steal Isaac's place by claiming we was the one Abraham sacrificed.


Muslims steals every major character in the Jewish Bible and make them Muslims. All the Jewish prophets were Muslims, leaving the Jews with nothing.

They tried to steal the Jewish God and name him allah. God for bit.


They stole Jesus and named him Isa.

After exile, the Jews ran into the dry desert and turned it into an oasis, Muhammed attacked them on Sabbath day, knowing they will not fight back, he killed them all, and stole their land.

He commissioned his followers to make sure to steal everything which belongs to the Jews.

After his death, they went after Jerusalem the Jewish Holy City.

Allah is satan and false prophet Muhammed was his messenger.

That's why you will find it very difficult to make heaven.
Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by mujahid777(m): 1:51pm On Dec 31, 2017
analize701:

And God also cursed him by saying, He shall be a WILD MAN, (A BEAST OF NO NATION). Wherever he finds himself, they shall be no peace, for his hands shall always be against the people around him.

Look around you Muslim, Is the curse working?


You never stop to display your ignorance by quoting the Bible you call corrupt to validate your claims, albeit, out of context.

only a statement was made;not a curse.
In what ways has your so-called 'curse' worked?
Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by frosbel2: 1:51pm On Dec 31, 2017
Let us some simple logic.

Imagine if you and your ancestors have been living on a stretch of land for over a 1000 years and then a group of people come to show you a book that suggests the land you are living on belongs to them and therefore you have to uproot your entire families, farms, cattle, and sheep, property, and businesses, and relocate into a slum or a small parcel of land shared by millions akin to living a Ghetto.

How would you react, say the truth ??

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Re: Why History Says Jerusalem Belongs To The Jews by AFONJAPIG(f): 1:56pm On Dec 31, 2017
why are these uncircumcised cursed mallams stealing and claiming every available piece of land that belong to other religion as if all the desert around the world never full them... one day they will claim my village shrine as Muham-MAD raping site before flight took him to aljanna... Ndi Ara... Thank God Israeli will give them the trouble in full

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