engrhorla:

Simple & precise comments! Fantastic!
Are u a teacher?

wellmax:


You have right to be stupid in private. But bringing it here on nairaland is a no no.

If you are trying to be sarcastic, then you are bad at it.

Nothing kills as fast as hatred.

Better outgrow this attitude before you pass it to innocent children.

deomelllo:




This is the most ignorant and unintelligent comment in the history of mankind.



1. Infrastructures creates jobs, boosts IGR, circulates hundreds of billions of NAIRA within the economy from contractors getting paid, painters, plumbers, roofers, bricklayers, engineers, architects, food vendors and so on are getting jobs and getting paid to buy food, pay rents, pay school fees and legitimately increases the state IGR that actually grew @ 10% last year.


2. Infrastructure upgrades attracts investments/Investors


3. Infrastructure upgrades facilitates and eases movement of goods, services, Agric products instead of wasting money, manpower and time on bad roads.


I do worry about your mental stability though.

Fawklicant:


My comment is going to be based on your responses and not the topic. This is a fight between brothers so I dare not intervene lest I be called ipob and what not.
I like the fact that you are able to see things from a different pov and hold steadfast to it while awaiting any reasonable or superior argument. Kudos for that. Unfortunately you are dealing with majority folks who would be quick to label you ipob because you hold a different view from theirs regardless of whether they have a superior argument or not. The aim of a debate is for a more logical argument to hold sway. That is a rare feature on Nairaland these days as everything is seen through apc /pdp lens and common sense takes flight.

Kudos for your approach, it is very commendable.

Y0ruba:



LOL why do you have to embarrass yourself ehn? Your use of English is bad and your grasp of minor socio-economic issue is subpar yet to typed ‘I schooled at OAU’. How did you graduate with this type of English and reasoning? Are you a 3rd class material or something? OAU used to be a good school though, SMH.

Anyway, stop being selfish. It is not about you driving, having a house there and your business. It is about the good lot there who are unemployed and the government workers not getting paid.

My question is - how does he intend to earn the money back in order to put the government’s purse back in shape? Yes you can drive up and down but are people getting paid? Is the road you are driving your jalopy through earning the state money?

No government in the world embarks on free projects. They give you infrastructures they know they can earn money from.

I wonder why it is so difficult for your likes to understand Osun is poor and lacks the luxury of embarking on projects it will not earn money from.

dannybee:

As a result of wanting to build what is nt needed, the state is in debt, no plan of paying...I wonder what will happen to the state, when he leaves

wahab63:
I have never seen dis kind Trumpet Bridge in gbongan, and I usually go dere everyday.

dannybee:

Oga forget theory and forget what they taught you in school, we are talking practicals here.

SmartyPants:


Not at all... it is being done in other places so there is no problem with this. Fundamentally, when a state goes deep into debt, the burden is transferred in the form of one tax or the other(or a tax hike), to the people. So a toll for using the road seems perfectly in order to me.

Y0ruba:










These posts are results of poor academic background & exposure as well as below par cognition.

This is why governments go away with under-performing because the youths can not think right to subject their governance to in-depth scrutiny.

How is it difficult to place IGR beside expenses to know a state is pure or if a state needs to embark on projects it won’t earn from?

Lagos is rich, the IGR is massive but does Lagos not toll its projects to earn its expenses back? A whole lot of you want the government to pay salaries but won’t help it brainstorm on how to generate the money; a whole lot of you want project but won’t questions its short or long term benefit to you and the state.

Truly, we get what we deserve as a people. No wonder a man who has never been known to engage in any economic venture but has lived off public funds for the most part of his life came with lofty ideas in 2015 and no one questioned how he intended to go about it or if he even understood the modern dynamics surrounding local and international economics.

With these set of youths, Nigeria is doomed for another century. SMH.

Fawklicant:


My comment is going to be based on your responses and not the topic. This is a fight between brothers so I dare not intervene lest I be called ipob and what not.
I like the fact that you are able to see things from a different pov and hold steadfast to it while awaiting any reasonable or superior argument. Kudos for that. Unfortunately you are dealing with majority folks who would be quick to label you ipob because you hold a different view from theirs regardless of whether they have a superior argument or not. The aim of a debate is for a more logical argument to hold sway. That is a rare feature on Nairaland these days as everything is seen through apc /pdp lens and common sense takes flight.

Kudos for your approach, it is very commendable.

Y0ruba:


Thank you again.

This brings me to my final question. How many of these roads apart from that Gbongan road, Okuku-Offa road & Ondo road can be tolled to generate funds?

Most of these roads cut into areas that see very little vehicular activity. It is good that he did them, I love the gesture but then all these roads at once, where does that leave recurrent expenditure?

Misterdhee1:

You still haven't answered my question. What should he have done differently? Gbogan-Ibadan road used to be a death trap, constructing the bridge is nothing but a wise decision. Before now, Osun used to be a rural state with very very few motorable roads. And for the first time in the history of the state, we got a governor that took infrastructural development serious...He ensured osogbo looks like a capital. That's unprecedented. He can't possibly achieve all at once...But my question remain - what should he have done differently? Please let's hear you out...

Bibidear:

lol,i am not

SmartyPants:


I'm not familiar enough with the area to really have a good picture of things. I can appreciate the theoretical nature of your argument though, but i think soon enough this is a gamble that will come good.

Y0ruba:



Osun is still a rural state and the street roads, although now good, see little to no vehicular activity.

My contention with the whole thing is where these projects leave the state. What he should have done differently, to answer your question, is not to make the project free. Tax it or toll it somehow to get expenses back to keep up with salaries if not offset loans.

Y0ruba:


Very laughable comment.

In relation to the socio-economic perculiarities of the state how has he done well?

Newly constructed roads & proper road network are good stuff but how do these roads contribute to the purse of the state & economic upgrade of the state?

I’m hoping he will toll that trumpet bridge and some of the roads to generate funds for the state as well as jobs. A number of those toads feed Federal roads which means high volume of vehicular [especially truck] pressure on the roads, he needs to toll them in order for the state to have a stable road maintenance fund stashed away.

Misterdhee1:


Osun looks different..I live there nd I know the different between what used to be obtainable and now. Taxing or tolling a project like the Gbogan-Ibadan road will be detrimental to the whole essence of the project..The project I think was embarked upon to ease movement from Osun-ibadan-Lagos where the bulk of the state's agricultural earnings come from...The road used to be a death trap...Even if he would tax or toll it, it shouldn't be now..Osun needs to leave its current status of being a civil servants state to a economical vibrant state. And I think that has been the basis of ogbeni's administration from the onset

GenOrumov:
@ YOruba, I salute how you did not resort to abusing those who abused you. Kudos to you. That was matured of you.

Now to the subject at hand.

As an indigene of Osun state who goes thru Osogbo, via Gbongan on the way to my village in Ibokun, Obokun LGA once in like every 3 months. At first, I wondered why the need for this project but it was later I realized the importance. Although, you cannot calculate the importance of infrastructure in Naira and Kobo but it's advantage in the short and long term is in no small measure.

Others have listed the expected benefits so I don't have to repeat it all over again. You can read more on the benefits of road infrastructure. cheers.

Nwades:
you are right, I onced lived in Osun state, most of the roads are not good at all even the good ones are just there for fancy, example is ILEOGBO to Kuta road at Ayedire LGA, my dear you can sleep in the middle of the road for hours and no car will horn at you. The road is just empty only goats and sheep's with few people uses the road. Osun has a long way to grow, the day I went to Osun was the day I knew what people means when they say "Brown roof republic"

Y0ruba:



LOL why do you have to embarrass yourself ehn? Your use of English is bad and your grasp of minor socio-economic issue is subpar yet to typed ‘I schooled at OAU’. How did you graduate with this type of English and reasoning? Are you a 3rd class material or something? OAU used to be a good school though, SMH.

Anyway, stop being selfish. It is not about you driving, having a house there and your business. It is about the good lot there who are unemployed and the government workers not getting paid.

My question is - how does he intend to earn the money back in order to put the government’s purse back in shape? Yes you can drive up and down but are people getting paid? Is the road you are driving your jalopy through earning the state money?

No government in the world embarks on free projects. They give you infrastructures they know they can earn money from.

I wonder why it is so difficult for your likes to understand Osun is poor and lacks the luxury of embarking on projects it will not earn money from.

Y0ruba:


Mr. Dee thank you for being level headed and sharing your thoughts.

Starting from the part of your post I emboldened, I agree with your thought there but it is a long term goal that may not happen in the next 5 years or anytime soon but before this viability happens, how do you suggest [right now] the state improves IGR to offset the loans incurred or keep up with recurrent expenditure - i.e salaries? How?

The Gbongan road is a very busy road. A lot of vehicles ply that place which means the road will be subjected to periodic maintenance or it will become damaged. How should the government maintain it? Dip hands in the lean purse of the state again?

The road can be Osun’s meal ticket, if 100 Naira is tolled for 24 hours every day, do you know how much the state will realize and how it will leap towards being economically vibrant because it will mean more money available for the government to spend to build the airport or invest in other stimulating projects that will yield further incomes.

That road is a gold mine, it should not be free. The government does not benefit from the agricultural produces that move from and through the states in anyway, they are private businesses. Getting 100 naira per car/bus vehicle and charging about 200 naira per truck that causew more damage isn’t so much.

Think about it, think Osun first.

Misterdhee1:

Firstly the state benefits from sales of agricultural products albeit indirectly..I understand your point of view but my problem with your first comment is that you attacked the whole project rather than "him not taxing the project."

I think taxing the project can actually earn the state a lot but trust me it can't be effected just immediately after finishing the project..That will be counter-productive. There seems to be much emphasis on taxing the public of late though. The guy has delivered social infrastructures, I think he has gained the public (at least non-civil servants, artisans, market women, farmers nd the likes)trust based on that.

Bibidear:

this thread isnt about the roads on the street of Gbongan but the trumpet one which cars ply

OmoEpe:

Am sure i can teach your English lecturer the language but that's besides the point. Your ignorance is appallingly embarrassing. Let me lecture you like an ignoramus that you are.
With infrastructural development commuting ftom place to place becomes easier this ensures easr of business. More people will move in and ultimately more money begins to circulate.
Osun is largely agrarian and the greatest cause of losses to Nigerian farmers is wastage. In fact a recent study shows that 89% of harvested crops endd up being wasted in Nigeria due to poor infrastructure.
Dumbo, fo you know that last ileya festival some cattle rearers moved their cows from the North to the West vis the rehabilitated rail? Of course you can't know because your bile is so intense that it has blinded you to reason and logic That is a simple example of the power of infrastructural development. . Your kind are the fayose crowd that only think of the next meal and not the interplay of factors that can improve their sociological and economical wellbeing, just like the Esau generation.
Ignoramus osun currently has one of the highest production of poultry products in the South West due to the construction of feeder roads to farms. All the next Gov need do is to focus on agriculture since the infrastructure needed to support it are already in place. Since you obviously are too dumb to know, Government is a continuum and no administration can do it all. Tinubu'sgreatest achievement in Lagos was shoring up the IGR because Lagos is a commercial state. Subsequent GOVERNORS could focus on infrastructure because the money was available but for Osun it's a different ball game as it isn't commercial but agrarian so what is fundamental is infrastructural development. This will ensure rapid and proper harnessing of its potentials
Lagos alone spends #3bn daily on agricultural products, if Osun can capture 5% of this market it will be the wealthiest SW state apart from Lagos
If after this you still don't understand, then i suggest u visit MFM