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Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 10:13am On Mar 23, 2018 |
shaybebaby: If the law was not created specifically for the benefit of women, so why did the makers of the law exclude family heirlooms as the only rings that have to be returned? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 10:26am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Only1mi: If the ring was worth £400,000 and the law says you don't have to give it back it is yours (an absolute gift), would you? Remember: If the ring is worth that much, and your engagement just got cancelled, that means you are no more marrying a multimillionaire. Probably back to normal guys. Would you still return it? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 10:36am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Escobar7: The more you take time to understand the average woman, the more you would shudder. I have observed them for too long to drop my guard or be a "real man". 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Shugavee(f): 10:52am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:this has nothing to do with feminism firstly!! 2ndly it was a gift n its her decision to make!!! She didnt buy it but it was given to her!!! |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 10:59am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Shugavee: How is it a gift? What was the reason it was given to her for? Tell me about any other "gift" you know of that is given for one singular intent. Also tell me about any other "gift" you know of that can be given to you by only one kind of person. It is about feminism. It shows the selfishness of feminism. Which is really not a shock considering the gender that is primarily advocating feminism. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by ADENIKETINA2015(f): 11:06am On Mar 23, 2018 |
NwaAmaikpe: Craycray |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by PreciousBro: 11:10am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Shugavee: Madam, why so much focus on the word gift'' ? Gift can be something immaterial or intangible. In the context of this scenerio,the gift here is the "engagement/proposal. The "ring" is just a physical symbolism or essence of the true gift(the engagement). And the ring is preceded with an intent, and the intent of it is the engagement/proposal. Instead of beating around in circles, why not return the essence of the gift(ring),when you truly don't want the gift(engagement) ? By the virtue standards of all things being equal, it is expected to be returned. At least that is what a morally classy woman without greed would do. 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Only1mi(f): 11:14am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite: Haba, ask me a reasonable question naw. But truth be told, if it cost that much, I'd still return it. Anyone who knows me knows I don't like any hassle of any form. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 11:15am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Only1mi: AAAAAAHHHHHH! Only1mi, true talk? Say the truth and let the devil be ashamed pata pata. You go return wetin? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by baby124: 11:43am On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:That’s different. In marriage there are laws because of shared property or assets. At a divorce, both are entitled to something that can equitably compensate for their contribution. Staying at home to raise kids within a marriage is not a bad thing. Before a woman can do that, the husband would be in agreement. Raising kids at home is a full time job. This is why we pay a lot of money for Others to do it for us. Absolutely nothing wrong in a stay at home mother being compensated in a divorce. I don’t even support stay at home without something little going on. What if God forbid the husband dies and she has no source of income whatsoever? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by linearity: 12:03pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Suaimhneas: An engagement ring by definition is not a gift. It was given in anticipation of a specific event to occur in the future. It given conditional, remember that before giving the ring you asked something along the lines of...’Baby will you marry me?’...you gave her the ring because she said YES, if her response was NO, she wouldn’t have gotten the ring...likewise, if along the line it become a NO, legally the ring should be returned. Even if you didn’t ask her the above question, legally engagement rings are given conditional. Ideally, the lady should return it, but if she does not the guy can forget it, but if the guy sued her, he will get the ring back or monetary compensation. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by linearity: 12:08pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Shugavee: Engagement ring is not a gift....you agreed to marry the guy, hence he gave it to you. If you had said NO to his proposal, he would not have given you the ring, therefore once the prospect of marrying becomes a NO, it should be returned. If the guy sues, he will get his ring or monetary compensation back. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 12:14pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
baby124: Men, don't you just love the average woman's logical compass? Logic 1: When it is to the disadvantage of women, and to the advantage of men = It is just plainly wrong Logic 2: When it is to the disadvantage of men, and to the advantage of women = rationalise it Here was another case of "rationalisation". https://www.nairaland.com/4316979/marriage-finally-over/15#64651190 So it is the law is what makes it right? You still did not explain to me how an engagement ring is a "gift". 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by baby124: 12:43pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:In a divorce, male or female can be compensated. Don’t make it a one sided thing to prove your point. About engagement ring being a gift, did he give it to her as a symbol of his love and commitment to her. Or did he lend it to her and tell her explicitly that the ring is only conditional on them being married? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by vivaciousvivi(f): 12:50pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite: Please shut your trap and stop spewing smelly saliva all over the place. You mentioned the point of the thread to an earlier question and I can read so all your baseless rants here are just that...baseless. Peanuts are not brains, agreed. But neither is the cold space in your head dear sir. Yeye dey smell! |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by shaybebaby(f): 1:15pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:An engagement is a verbal contract between two people showing their intention to commit to each other. As with any other contract, there are express and implied terms when entering into it. Implied contract is a little bit more ambiguous so the law generally looks at the conduct of the parties to determine if there are implicit terms. The giver of the ring would have to demonstrate that he/she intended for all gifts to be returned in the event of a breakdown in relation or that it was gifted on the condition that the wedding must hold. So they are given the opportunity to demonstrate this fact by law. . If they do, they get their ring back. Ofcourse with family heirlooms, it is easier to prove this as the gift which is handed down within the family is passed to someone who is believed to be about to join the family. It fits that purpose. Once the person is no longer family, they no longer meet that criteria. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Shugavee(f): 1:39pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:said my peace, am done with this topic, its was a gift to her, n she would give it back if she wants to!!! If u want the ring back ask politely , don't think she will forcefully give u! Cause it's hers!! Good day |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 1:48pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
baby124: shaybebaby: Shugavee: Standing ovation! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcuzB4wlebA&index=106 I love it! This is why I opened the thread and called the feminists in to comment. I just fcking love it! The pure "me, me, me, me, me", "it is alright if it is going my way but an outrage if not". 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 1:58pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
baby124: Don't you just love the average woman's logic and rationalisation when something is likely to be to their advantage. As I stated earlier, this is what feminist push: Sagamite: Pure selfishness! I bet if a government refuses to deal with domestical violence or a senior government leader vocalises support for it, you would not say it is not because of misogyny since both men and women suffer domestic violence? baby124: He gave it to her as a sign that we should get married. It is a cultural gesture. Pure and simple! Easy logic! Not rocket science! No way you can argue otherwise with any warped feminine logic even if you tried from now till Jesu Kristi returns. But feminine selfishness would find a way to rationalise otherwise. I would soon move to the "contract" rationalisation. 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 2:01pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
shaybebaby: What contract? How is it a contract? Do you understand the meaning of a contract? Which court do you go to when engagement ends? National Indutrial Court? A commercial court? Oh God! Women never cease to amaze me! Escobar7, wetin I tell you? You go shudder till you start generating electricity pass PHCN! 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 2:03pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Shugavee: You can't explain how it is a gift? You will just defiantly stick with your illogicality as long as you feel it is to your advantage and then froth with anger if others refuse to side with you if something is to your disadvantage? And when people highlight your hypocrisy, you would scream they are just "sexist" or "misogynists"? 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 2:08pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
vivaciousvivi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCIyhUi2zBo You are so daft, you even struggle to realise that I am calling your brain a peanut as a reflection of your cerebral power? KAI! Moronic fuuktard to the core. 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Only1mi(f): 2:28pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite: Swear down |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by cococandy(f): 2:53pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
But everything you wrote here doesn’t have anything to do with rings. there are no (feminism-driven) laws that mandate people on what to do with engagement rings after the engagement is broken. It’s a personal thing. Some people may want to give it back while others may not want to regardless of their stance on feminism. You anti-feminists often reach far and wide in search for shyt to toss at feminism. No matter how unrelated. Well you tried to make the connection. In my opinion, it didn’t stick. Have a wonderful day Sagamite: 2 Likes |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by baby124: 2:55pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite:Answer my question. Stop dancing around it now. You know my question hook you well. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by PrimadonnaO(f): 3:06pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
nkemdi89: Hmm. Why didn't you give it back? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by vivaciousvivi(f): 3:25pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
Sagamite: Clearly the word sarcasm is lost on a loser like you. No wonder the flossie dumped ur a.ss. Lol. Even wasted time uploading a video for a "moronic fuuktard" who won't be bothered to watch it. Loser who is intimidated by so called feminists. Shameless goat. Be here arguing with a woman while your mates are out there being productive. Oh I forget, that's exactly what gives u the hots. Moving on jare..... |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Nobody: 4:19pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
lol @ Sagamite calling me a feminist. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by nonut: 11:04pm On Mar 23, 2018 |
idu1:Hahahahhaha! Bad guy. It's true. We used to be on each others throats then. I had to change cos I got tired of using it. And no, I ain't telling you my old username. |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by duduade: 2:06am On Mar 24, 2018 |
Return it... Why keep it? |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by skimmy39: 4:42am On Mar 24, 2018 |
i love you MissWrite: 1 Like |
Re: What Happens To The Engagement Ring? by Sagamite(m): 12:47pm On Mar 27, 2018 |
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