redsun:


The mental controls the socalled spiritual. The only reason why men like him make waves in your world is because you are still in the dark age. An age that you are yet to understand what 1+1 really means in practice. .

redsun:


US is not exactly a model country for a mentally emancipated country,there are so many fundamentally ignorant people and institutions in that country that are just as bad as that of the 4th world. Anything near to a model society can only be found in western Europe, i.e.,Holland ,Germany and even reforming Great Britain.

redsun:


US is not exactly a model country for a mentally emancipated country,there are so many fundamentally ignorant people and institutions in that country that are just as bad as that of the 4th world. Anything near to a model society can only be found in western Europe, i.e.,Holland ,Germany and even reforming Great Britain.

NAVTINO45:
nope, that's wrong,
dirty politics is the main reason and causal factor

awesomeJ:

And you do?

Folks like yourself with IQs at best in the 70th percentile, would be the ones regarding those whose IQs exceed the 90th percentile as being of inferior intelligence.

Calm down man, you could use some smartness.

mabea:
Do you know why the jews rejected Jesus? Jesus brought the kingdom of God. Religion will subject you to certain rules and laws but faith in Christ sets you at liberty to serve God acceptly because Jesus is the righteousness of God.

There is an after life except if you think there is no difference between you and other animals.

plaetton:


I hear the BULLSHYT alarms going off everywhere.


You have said not one single sensible thing up there.

If you are a sincere subscriber to all the aforementioned Bullshyts up there, then I'm truly sorry to inform you that someone has left hold the bag, a big bag full of dung.

awesomeJ:

You didn't really think you'd be making any sense calling the world's largest economy a 4th world. Did you?

This is basically the country of reference in the world.
From currencies to commodities, stock market to technology, sports and entertainment, military and space exploration. Every nation references the US, and it will be that way for a long time. Because its founders christened it "God's Own Country".

redsun:


With the way you reason and live you are more or less a sub- human, and of course, with 0 IQ. IQ don't exist in your world,that is why you live in perpetual delusions and wanton want and miseries.

redsun:


It depends on what your idea of economy iso and ideal human interaction. I don't think a country where an ardent kkk man is the leader is an ideal civilised society. Where somebody can just wake and start killing people because he/she has had enough of the hateful rhetoric and rat race is an ideal society.

mabea:
Do you know why the jews rejected Jesus? Jesus brought the kingdom of God. Religion will subject you to certain rules and laws but faith in Christ sets you at liberty to serve God acceptly because Jesus is the righteousness of God.


There is an after life except if you think there is no difference between you and other animals.

hopefulLandlord:


Olukoya is a pastor that keeps his flock in constant fear of mundane things by spiritualising them

a student failed exam? the enemies of his mother's house is responsible

you don't have a job or you lost your job? there's a spiritual snail in your life

finding it hard/near impossible getting a husband? spiritual husbands are involved, they're the ones chasing your prospective husbands away

did you see a cockroach in your closet? that's definitely agents of your enemy at work

your business failed? its the gods of your grandfather that is responsible

so almost all prayers are directed at enemies/demons/gods of my father's house etc telling them to DIE!!!!!

but I understand cuz doing that's what the sheeples want to hear not the bitter truth, make them think they can pray away their problems and that some undetectable, invisible and intangible entity is responsible

No student really wants to hear he failed cuz he studied wrongly

No bachelor/spinster wants to hear they're finding getting spouse hard due to the fact that they're too damn ugly or have a shitty attitude or lack manners

someone whose business just failed doesn't want to hear its normal for businesses to fail as 9 out of 10 businesses fail within 5 years and he should take the lessons from that failed business to make another attempt

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YOU NAILED IT.

WE'RE JUST LIKE PLANTS AND ANIMALS WHEN WE DIE.

mabea:
What do you think is responsible for that since you've given reasons for that of 3rd world countries. Are they not whites too?

awesomeJ:

That's just you and others like yourself o. It's you guys that are mere vegetables.

I and several other Christians are spirit beings with eternal existence. soon we'll trade our current bodies for immortal ones and then live in eternal bliss.

Even if this were false (likelihood is less than zero), what do I lose? Absolutely nothing.

Now if it's true (likelihood is more than 100%), I PITY YOUR FOLKS!

OKAY.

awesomeJ:

That's just you and others like yourself o. It's you guys that are mere vegetables.

I and several other Christians are spirit beings with eternal existence. soon we'll trade our current bodies for immortal ones and then live in eternal bliss.

Even if this were false (likelihood is less than zero), what do I lose? Absolutely nothing.

Now if it's true (likelihood is more than 100%), I PITY YOUR FOLKS!

hopefulLandlord:


Olukoya is a pastor that keeps his flock in constant fear of mundane things by spiritualising them

a student failed exam? the enemies of his mother's house is responsible

you don't have a job or you lost your job? there's a spiritual snail in your life

finding it hard/near impossible getting a husband? spiritual husbands are involved, they're the ones chasing your prospective husbands away

did you see a cockroach in your closet? that's definitely agents of your enemy at work

your business failed? its the gods of your grandfather that is responsible

so almost all prayers are directed at enemies/demons/gods of my father's house etc telling them to DIE!!!!!

but I understand cuz doing that's what the sheeples want to hear not the bitter truth, make them think they can pray away their problems and that some undetectable, invisible and intangible entity is responsible

No student really wants to hear he failed cuz he studied wrongly

No bachelor/spinster wants to hear they're finding getting spouse hard due to the fact that they're too damn ugly or have a shitty attitude or lack manners

someone whose business just failed doesn't want to hear its normal for businesses to fail as 9 out of 10 businesses fail within 5 years and he should take the lessons from that failed business to make another attempt

LarryBee1k:



Forget man. There is no spiritual thing. Look at your steps. Find where you've made mistake.

kevoh:

Do you have concrete empirical evidence for the words in bold or it's just something you religious nutjobs in Nigeria are fond of uttering?

The Nigerian economy is suffering from bad leadership choices even Dangote is having his efforts thwarted and losing some money due to this let alone some man somewhere in Nigeria. Why does it have to be hidden in some vague statement as spiritual?

ameri9ja:


Where and when did he get his "Dr."

How come developed countries simply face problems on the physical level and solve them?Yet they are way ahead of Naija.
Just asking.

hopefulLandlord:
People like Olukoya are part of why we're in this sheet

These guys would encourage the country to pray its way out of issues rather than study it with commonsense and get solutions like developed countries do

seguno2:


Thanks.
In this case, we have to do nothing except pray and wait for God to intervene and deal with Olukoya’s witches.
Must we all be inherently stupid

awesomeJ:

You're minding the e-diot?

If he thinks the problem isn't witchcraft, why not define what the problem is and profer solutions.

The fool is quick to say it's government failure, and that things would be better if it was in a developed world. If his reasoning wasn't haphazard, wouldn't he have remembered that there was a terrorist attack in Nice a while back, was France not developed at the time, how about school shootings in the US?

The military has deployed that largest percentage of their human and material resources to fighting this insurgency, with even foreign assistance, yet the hair head thinks he knows better.

This is someone who probably failed Jamb more than once opening his mouth to call someone with academic achievements that will only remain dreams to his generations, calling him "not intelligent"

hopefulLandlord:


bad and good things would happen to everyone at varying degrees throughout their lifetime. its normal



Yes he teaches other aspects of life, like when he said evil spirits in the the lagoon was responsible for Unilag student's violent demonstration or this thread when he said evil spirits are responsible for bloodshed? Other aspects of life indeed

So let's pray for the end of Boko Haram rather than get physical weapons and help from international community to thwart Boko Haram. Its obvious none of the tens of millions of Christians in Nigeria have been praying against Boko Haram and for an end to bloodshed, amirite?

hopefulLandlord:


Olukoya is a pastor that keeps his flock in constant fear of mundane things by spiritualising them

a student failed exam? the enemies of his mother's house is responsible

you don't have a job or you lost your job? there's a spiritual snail in your life

finding it hard/near impossible getting a husband? spiritual husbands are involved, they're the ones chasing your prospective husbands away

did you see a cockroach in your closet? that's definitely agents of your enemy at work

your business failed? its the gods of your grandfather that is responsible

so almost all prayers are directed at enemies/demons/gods of my father's house etc telling them to DIE!!!!!

but I understand cuz doing that's what the sheeples want to hear not the bitter truth, make them think they can pray away their problems and that some undetectable, invisible and intangible entity is responsible

No student really wants to hear he failed cuz he studied wrongly

No bachelor/spinster wants to hear they're finding getting spouse hard due to the fact that they're too damn ugly or have a shitty attitude or lack manners

someone whose business just failed doesn't want to hear its normal for businesses to fail as 9 out of 10 businesses fail within 5 years and he should take the lessons from that failed business to make another attempt

johnnyvid:
General Overseer of the Mountain of Fire and Miracles ministries (MFM), Daniel Olukoya, says satanic witchcraft is behind the various bloodshed and massive attacks witnesed in different parts of the country.

The clergyman stated this while preaching at the church’s monthly “Power Must Change Hands” meeting held at the Prayer City, Ogun state , today April 7th.

“Anywhere you see any bloodshed or massive death of people it is not terrorism but the work of satanic witchcraft. An evil force is the one behind all those bloodshed. Do you expect a sane human being to just slaughter another human being who is still alive when he will even think twice when killing a hen or cow?

Nigerians need to wake up from their slumber as there is a massive resurgence of witchcraft all over the world. Nigeria is in the era of the great wrath where so many mysterious things have occurred; I mean unexplainable sexual perversion, unavoidable terrorism, emergence of kidnappers who are hungry for blood and terrible accidents. I urge all Nigerians to watch and pray and be vigilant as we are in the end time. So many things are happening'' he said.

https://www.pressnewsng.com.ng/2018/04/satanic-witchcraft-behind-bloodshed-and.html?m=0

asuustrike2009:

Is there empirical evidence for voodooism? If yes then I can provide mine

asuustrike2009:
some evil forces behind it. The spiritual controls the physical that is why whatever happens physically had already manifested in the spirit realm.

hopefulLandlord:
People like Olukoya are part of why we're in this sheet

These guys would encourage the country to pray its way out of issues rather than study it with commonsense and get solutions like developed countries do

kevoh:

We will get there, step by step. Let's start with the one you claimed below first

1. Explain what is spiritual
2. Explain what is evil forces
3.. Explain what is physical

The first three questions are for us to have an idea of what you are saying and not just repeating words Christians like repeating with zero meaning.
4. Explain how as I am typing these questions or the cup of tea I took this morning has already manifested in the so called spiritual realm
5. Finally, give with concrete empirical evidence how you came to conclude that spiritual controls physical.

I hope you understand what concrete empirical evidence is, if not please do not waste my time with word salads and beating around the subject!

paxonel:
this fictious olukoya pastor is not intelligent man at all.

He has already implicated himself, He is just passing wrong information to gullible Nigerians and Nigerians will never see this information as wrong that is his saving grace.
If he tries this in more educated and developed country his church is closed down immediately.

How can a man call himself man of God attritute the bloodshed in Nigeria to witchcraft when it is clearly the failures of the government to protect it people?

Should security agencies begin to search for witchcrafts?

I don't know how Nigerians are thinking o

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HERE'S A PHOTO PROOF THAT RELIGION DAMAGES THE BRAIN FASTER THAN HARD DRUGS.