philip0906:

@vedaxcool
I'm not replying u,so stop wasting your time.I am posting 2 let others know.U r free 2 post whatever,but don't make any reference 2 my posts

philip0906:

Marriage is a picture of the Trinity.

At the present time marriage, and particularly marriage between believers, is a picture of the Trinity. It has been marred by sin and is no longer the nearly perfect picture presented by the first couple in their time of innocence. Nevertheless, man and wife, though distinct individuals, become joined by God as one flesh in a manner analogous to Adam and Eve, who were distinct persons though literally created from the same flesh. Matthew 19:4-6. Neither mate owns his or her own body; that body belongs to the other mate, to them both jointly. I Corinthians 7:4. Further, it remains true that a married couple, joined by God, to a large degree shares a single, merged spirit. Malachi 2:15.

However, the New Testament also clearly states that Christian marriage is a picture of the relationship between Christ and the Church. Ephesians 5:22-33. The Church is the body of Christ, and every believer is a member of that body. I Corinthians 12:27. The Church exists only because Jesus the Son died to bring it into existence and the Father and the Spirit raised him from the dead to empower it to live (6). Christ is the Head of the Church, his Body, and the Church is growing out of its Head, just as the Son eternally comes out of the Father. Ephesians 4:15-16; Colossians 2:19,  Yet, the Church is also the Bride of Christ, and Christ is at the present time (as we see time) perfecting his Bride so that he can present it to Himself without spot or wrinkle. Ephesians 5:25-27; Colossians 3:22. The Son and his Bride are, thus, distinct persons, yet a single body-----> (as in what are you writing in english or drawing pencils?), just as the Father and the Son are distinct yet one. Moreover, the Son and his Bride share a single Spirit, that same Holy Spirit which the Father and the Son share (7

nopuqeater:

Except that you do not know arithmetic. If I start out with a whole value. I will always end up with the maximum, the same value. That is common sense, though that common sense is not common. Every thinking person will say a valued number is what 100% is. In class quizzes, or tests, marks are based on curves, sometimes depending on the outcome of the grades of the students. Those professors who curve out the final grades, are the rubbishing education?

nopuqeater:

I pity your deficient mind. If a man left 36000 instead of 40500 to satisfy his beneficiaries after his debt and legacy have been settled, good thinking which you dont have tells us that every beneficiary realized that whatever they get, X, Y and Z amounts are windfall. What if the man hadnt left anything, would the beneficiaries not continue to go on with their lives?

nopuqeater:

So the division in the Quran is the ONLY one applicable,

nopuqeater:

36000/40500=360/405. This fraction is now inserted into the exact amount that each person will get; so the one expecting to receive 24000 will get 360/405 of that amount. the one expecting to get 12000 will get half of what the one who was expecting 24000 gets by the same formulae 12000 times 360/405. the last will get 4500 times 360/405.

nopuqeater:

Now tell me what the Bible say about inheritance?

imhotep:

Fanaticism can be defined as an overcompensation for doubt . . .

vedaxcool:

2 Chronicles 21:20 Thirty and two years old was he when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem eight years, and departed without being desired. Howbeit they buried him in the city of David, but not in the sepulchres of the kings.

2 Chronicles 22:1 And the inhabitants of Jerusalem made Ahaziah his youngest son king in his stead: for the band of men that came with the Arabians to the camp had slain all the eldest. So Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah reigned.
22:2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri

Now the quwestion arises how can a son be older than his father?
it says Ahaziah, 42, when he began to reign and his father was 32 when he died, how is it possible unless christians and Jews call their Children father.

nuclearboy:

The Spirit of God knows EVERYTHING because there is NO distance and no limitations in the spirit.

Jesus DELIBERATELY limited Himself because of Aletheia myself, etc, and ALL the people making noise here about Him. He limited Himself by putting on flesh and that is why the Bible says "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God". "And the Word became flesh and dwelt amongst men". Our own God lives with us in LOVE and does not promise us hellfire as reward but His presence for always!----. [size=14pt][b]Are the blind and the seeing alike, no indeed, ignoramus have ever bothered to research who first said those words,"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."Please note, these are not the words of Jesus. They are the words of John (or whoever wrote them). Acknowledged by every erudite Christian scholar of the  Bible as being the words of another Jew, Philo of Alexandria, who had written them even before John and Jesus were born. And Philo claimed no divine inspiration for them. No matter what mystical meaning that Philo had woven around these words (which our John has plagiarized), we will accept them for what they are worth. This was an interaction between a Muslim and a Reverend Father Since the European (including the North American) has evolved a system of using capital letters to start a proper noun and small letters for common nouns, we would accept his giving a capital "G" for God; in other words Hotheos is rendered "the god"which in turn is rendered "God". "Now tell me, what is the Greek word for "God" in the second occurrence in your quotation - "and the Word was God"? The Reverend still kept silent. Not that he did not know Greek, or that he had lied, but he knew more than that; the game was up. I said:"the word was Tontheos, which means "a god".According to your own system of translating you aught to have spelt this word 'God' a second time with a small 'g' i.e. 'god', and not 'God' with a capital 'G'; in other words Tontheos is rendered "a god". Both of these, "god" or "a god" are correct.I told the Reverend: "But in 2 Corinthians 4:4 you have dishonestly reversed your system by using a small 'g' when spelling 'God' "(and the devil is) the god of this world." The Greek word for "the god" is Hotheos the same as in John 1:1. "Why have you not been consistent in your translations ?" "If Paul was inspired to write hotheos the God for the Devil, why don't you use that capital 'G'?" And in the Old Testament, the Lord said unto Moses: "See, I have made thee a god to Pharoah" (Exodus 7:1). "Why do you use a small 'g' for 'God' when referring to Mosesinstead of a capital 'G' as you do for a mere word 'Word' - "and the Word was God."? vedaxcool:The question is "is Moses the god of Pharoah, please bring sensible points not all this yama yama stuff.
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When He "became" flesh, He limited Himself. The limitation made it to be true that "AS FLESH", He did not know the day or time! As limited as He was however, He MADE SURE THERE WOULD be no controversy about who He was as even your own Koran testifies that Jesus is God. There is NO attribute you can find for God outside of Flesh that is not recorded in your Koran as being manifested in Jesus Christ. NONE![/b]----> [size=14pt][b]If you do not quote the verse in the Qur'an that said jesus is God then know that you and Missionary apparartus are Cheap liars with no regard for the Truth, and are a disgrace to the commadment of the bible that says thou shall not lie, Paul indeed has not only Perseceuted Christians but has spoilt them with a deep craving to lie at any instance.[/size]

All the ATANATU rubbish is simply that - rubbish!!! God is a Spirit. Therefore if you want to show us your scholarship, the "truth" in you and the honesty of your belief system, remove the flesh portion of Jesus (if you have enough imagination) and show us ONE thing God can do that Jesus cannot do.----> [size=14pt]are you a cannibal? is that is why you are an expert in removing flesh from the skin,.[/size]

Show it to us even from your Koran which you say is infallible. Or keep quiet! Remember your own Koran says we are to teach you!--->  [size=15pt]can a child teach its parents? Pagan go cry for God to give you wisdom, and please point the verse that says so, if you don't you are nothing more than a satanic Liar, with limited intelligence you chooses[/size]

On the infallibility of your Koran, you still have not and cannot explain how "god" does not know arithmetric. 2/3 + 1/3 + 1/8 = 9/8  NOT 8/8 which is 1-----> [size=14pt]Dimwit I told you that your biblical method of reading does not hold water in the Quran, as the verses 4:11 and 4:12 are to be read separately, you and Alithia have dumbly refuse to heed that advise as any reaonble mind that read the verses in their context, wiln come to note that each line gave a possibility if there is only one daughter, or a mother;;;;;,, rather than holy-ghoul rush to read approach use a more rational way of reading, you dig. [/size]

nuclearboy:

^^ He did not remove it because of me AND you! Go sit on that.

nuclearboy:

And all you need do is tell us one thing the TRUE God can do that Christ could not. ergo Jesus IS Lord

nopuqeater:

Inna aa tainaka kautar, fa salli li Rabbika, wan ar, inna shaniaka huwa abtar. The abundance of knowledge is what Islam is. why is it difficult that if one introduces a particular constant to 3 and 4, the same constant will make 5 equal to them? we can introduce a different constant to them and 5 will be greater than them. why is it that you do not think like a modern man? You are too backward and its surprising that you have great education with this shabby ability. Just imagine if you think?
abundance of knowledge? where.you dont even know your islam-attemptin to intellectualise it. I pity you


@Almuhandis: « #553 on: Yesterday at 11:44:19 PM »Dont worry about the Yorubas. We are fine in Islam. Allah says it is the Tawakkul of the heart He looks at. Man is not better than woman. Woman is not better than man. Arab is not better non arab. Whites are not better non whites. everyone is valued independently, separate based on their God Consciousness; belief and good deeds. For sure christian arabs will end up in Hell, InshaAllah for their disobedience in belief. Non Arab muslims will be rewarded with paradise, InshaAllah for their true faith and good deeds. Enough of your foolishness as if Muslims depend on your artificial divisions of them. I have many many hausas who call me their brothers, while a yoruba man like the keferis on this site see me as their enemy.

Laa, you dont know nothing yoruba muslims are 2nd class period.you cant prove otherwise.Ode! dont you know that no pure Arewa male will stand behind an Alfa to lead him in prayers-what is it you dont understand in what i have said.you pick the easy topics to blow your mouth-I have raised fundamental issues from the quran with refrences, offcourse you are still consulting your alfas for evasive answers.
how do you know the Arab xtians will go to hell? your Quran told you so Abi? fine. My Bible says if the muslims dont accept the Almasihu they go to Hell. Ok fine. the only way to clarify the legitimacy of the religion is to look at the core tenants and the presenters of the religion. Mohammed was a pedophile? Jesus was what? you tell me


Who told jesus of the Bible to conquer the world? imself or the ghost or Eloi? He failed be cause he was conquered.



Who designed the OT with actual fights? We do know at least 2 or more harb (War in Arabic)[Jihad is not necessarily War, strugglefor sure] that no one died. Tell us any war in the Bible with the same no lost of life.


War, in arabic is "HARB". This word occurs in two chapters; Baqarah were Allah is stopping Riba. And in Al Maidah. What a man in Misri (Egypt) does is on his own when it is against Islam. Afterall, Misri, they discriminate among other another by mere color of the skin, and they have haussaine Mubarack as president and cant anything about it. Is this an ideal society of Islam based on what Quran says> Of course there is no idea Islammic country on earth. My breaking news, Youtube; Christian Missionary Atrocities.


Onward marching christians soldiers. Christian hymm; Fight the good fight with all thy might,


And you have been warned. Sayiddina Abdullah Abdusalaam, one of the children of Israel in Madina, in the Gazwattul Huud, the joined the muslims, saying that they have the description of the Messenger (AS) in Taurah, even at that time, the reason they migrated heavily to Madina, thinking that he wil from among them in Madina.


You dont deserve a reply except that do not fear.

Whats my business with a contaminated jew in medina! your ignorance is becoming legendary.if we asumed that what you understood of jesus's statement is true-did his lifestyle reflect that. compare that with the lifestyle of mohamed. Jesus NEVER led an army of followers to attack and take over a city-you see the difference in their Ideology
I am in Jihad against you now. And Allah will gie me victory from Him over your disbelieving ways.
stop decievin yourself-moderate muslims all over the world are all ways using your above statement to decieve other people. jihad means cobvert people to Islam by all means(see my earlier quranic citations) includin HARBUN
Why do you think the mujahedeens all over the world are succeeding in killin innocent people, because its clear in the quran-there is a grat reward from Alla for doing Jihad the only way-killin.not by talking, but by both.

Sure women have rights. Hadith explains the verse it relates to in the Quran. So a woman came to the Prophet (AS) in Madina complaining that she does not want her husband. The Messenger after dialogue asked her if she wil return his dowry, since she was the one who initiated it, and got the dowry, she said yes. So he asked to return it and granted her her wish; a divorce from the husband she does not want. I see you as a deceitful human being. Truth is further from your lips.
Sharrap! women have which rights? where. Is the whole world not seein how women in the ummah are being soffocated.silly  mumu-your religion likes to decieve people.the current iranian woman that is to be dealt with is rights abi? Jesus forgave a woman in a similar situation and he forgives all sins, what did your mohammed recommended? youare here talking nonesense-i pity you (The Holy spirit deliver your good soul from the demon controlling it now in Jesus name-Amen)
Allah cautions no harm on the woma, because men are generally stronger, and get excited more if refused sexual intimacy. You know this with your Zina parters. However the way it has been demostrated since the prophet (AS) beat any of his wives (RA), even Umar who is feisty never beat his wife, it then becomes that a man can raise the tip of the kimar of a woman to show that he was angry and if he didnt fear harm will be done, he easily could violated her. I dont beat any woman. By the way christian men beat women. Where did they have instructions for or against itZ? or they just act as they desire, without guidelines? I remember the Another Comforter is given the charge of complete guidance. And he came and you people refuse to accept him, in Islam.

Oh no gosh indeed the spirit of mohammed is all over you guys-you cant do or say any thing without thinkin in the flesh,all you think of a woman is sex-no wonder. 'Men get excited more if refused sexual intimacy' who said so/ where was the practicals done that you where told.yet you didnt answer the quranic verse I quoted. you are a full mumu, ode niyen. the issue is not wheather xtian men beat their wives, because their God did not tell them to do so. In Malachi the xtian God even said he hate divorce.In Eph it is said that only a 'mumu' like you would beat himself, because you and your wife are one inSpirit. but you own useless prophet and quran said you can raise your filthy hands and beat a woman-your wife. And you are here modifyin the answers and the truth.

And you didnt give us the verse?

all the verses i have quoted here have you given answers to them you keep evading the core issues I raised. I cant even waste time on you again. Long before now xtianity has defeated Islam and now long ago from my earlier posts i have defeated you-up till now you can comment on NASIKH.
Abeg people in the house make una tell this Ode to tell us the concept and operation of NASIKH in ISLAM.untill then I consign you to the bola of theological discuss.
Hourin is mate. Adam was mate to Eve. Eve was Mate to Adam.

Almuhandis:

Ekaro sir !do you know you are an interesting man nopuqeater, you make me to laugh so hard i almost fall from my seat. Again you have evaded core issues i raised again in my last post. Just the way you love and believe in your religion, so do I. so you can not claim access to heaven (assuming we are talking of the same heaven).we both are!

vedaxcool:


(HOLY BIBLE) Luke 12:49 & 51
New International Version (©1984)
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"

New Living Translation (©2007)
And as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king--bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.'"

English Standard Version (©2001)
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."

International Standard Version (©2008)
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!'"

nOW IGNORAMUS THAT DO NOT KNOW THE BIBLE BUT CLAIM TO SPEAK ARABIC WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY?

[size=14pt]Veda:BUT you do not expect Almudais to reply
Xcool:Yes I expect him to answer it
Veda: you are on a long thing, he have probably ran out of the thread, on spotting this dangerous verses
xcool:Really?
Veda:Just as alethia sneaks out of the thread when the going gets tuff , no insult intended
Xcool: na so this Missionaries be? [/size]

Almuhandis:

Sorry i just went back to your posts and discovered some hidden ques. Ans:there are 30 juzzu (Ajiza) if you want the name of each of the juzzu just dial my number-mumu like you . I told you, I will torpedo you any day any time t

vedaxcool:

asalamualaikum. Yesua gives peace


"Think NOT that I am come to send PEACE on earth; I. came NOT to send PEACE, but a SWORD."

(HOLY BIBLE) Matthew 10:34

"I am come to send FIRE on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
Suppose ye that I am come to give PEACE on earth? I tell you, NAY; but rather DIVISION."

(HOLY BIBLE) Luke 12:49 & 51
New International Version (©1984)
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"

New Living Translation (©2007)
And as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king--bring them in and execute them right here in front of me.'"

English Standard Version (©2001)
But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence."

International Standard Version (©2008)
But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!'"

nOW IGNORAMUS THAT DO NOT KNOW THE BIBLE BUT CLAIM TO SPEAK ARABIC WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY?

[size=14pt]Veda:BUT you do not expect Almudais to reply
Xcool:Yes I expect him to answer it
Veda: you are on a long thing, he have probably ran out of the thread, on spotting this dangerous verses
xcool:Really?
Veda:Just as alethia sneaks out of the thread when the going gets tuff , no insult intended
Xcool: na so this Missionaries be? [/size]

nopuqeater:

^^^ parables are about jesus. no? if they are not about him, all the parables that you people use to say he is a king, a judge go to zero since he wasnt a king and didnt judge anyone really.

if there is a single parable that you will claim for him, you will have to claim everyone of them, unless you have clear knowledge from jesus [where it is written from him, we will like to read it from there],then your deeper meaning is a copout.

what is clear is clear. the rest is your vain desire. and you are on your own.

Mark 4:2-20:

(2) And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine,
(3) Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:
(4) And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.
(5) And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:
(6) But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.
(7) And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.
(8 ) And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.
(9) And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
(10) And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.
(11) And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
(12) That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
(13) And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
(14) The sower soweth the word.
(15) And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
(16) And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
(17) And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
(18) And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
(19) And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
(20) And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.

vedaxcool:

Luke 19:20-27 (King James Version)

20And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:

21For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.

22And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:

23Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

24And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.

25(And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)

26For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

27But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

28And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.

29And it came to pass, when he was come nigh to Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount called the mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples,

30Saying, Go ye into the village over against you; in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither.

Luke 19:11-19:

(11) And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
(12) He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
(13) And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
(14) But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
(15) And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
(16) Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
(17) And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
(18) And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
(19) And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.