Almuhandis:

In islam disenting voice(s) are never entatain. Infact there is no human rights in Islam.Which is a western concept from kafirs according to the great Sayyid Qutb the founding father of modern Jihad. Book ref;social justice in Islam.
There is a basic principle in the islamic Law called QAEDA AL-FAQUHIA which states that 'any one who denies ANY of the islamic truth is an infidel.And since all infidels must be killed, any such disenting voice must be silenced(eg the fatwa issued against Salman Rushdie by the iranian supreme leader khomeni)
if Qaeda Al-faquhia is applied-1Those who leave the Muslim faith must be killed(No! freedom of Religion)
 2.Those expressing opinions against Islam (no freedom of speech) Now you see the root of the senseless killings all around the world. To those who do not understand(including moderate muslims) why the true followers of Mohammed are killing even their own fellow muslim brothers and sisters, the reason lies in these laws derive from the Holy? quran.They aid secular govts , they disagree with their own views, they refuse to take part in Jihad etc. They must die, irespective of what we say here, they must continue to die, to be continued.

hmmmm and how many people have they kill around you cos of not accepting Islam? and why are you people like contradicting things soon you gonna said the first and second world war was caused by the Muslims and soon you gonna say the Biafra war also was caused by the Muslim even the cultist in our various Universities was the hand work of the muslim even your pastors visiting Erelu Agbaye for charms to use to perform miracles for you are also the handwork of Muslim guy you need to sleep tight and think better and ask your self does islamic really support terrorism and pls you have to give me proof from the Holy quran is not then you have to remain silent.

You have just displayed chronic ignorance of God,so if you like conjure ten or ten million tissue-of-lies and mountain-of-ignorance reasons why you think Jesus is not God,it still will not change that immutable fact that JESUS IS LORD

rasputinn:

You have just displayed chronic ignorance of God,so if you like conjure ten or ten million tissue-of-lies and mountain-of-ignorance reasons why you think Jesus is not God,it still will not change that immutable fact that JESUS IS LORD

OMG are you crazy? are you trying to ridicule God maybe you own god but my own God cannot be kill by anyone

Al-Muhandis, olodo ni e.

QAEDA AL-FAQUHIA!

Do you mean to say: 'Al-Qaaidah Al-Fiqihiyyah' which is singular form of 'Al-Qawaaid Al-Fiqihiyyah?'

I have said it on the other thread (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-506001.96.html#msg6744360) where you pose yourself as an Arabic lexicographer that you are a Jaahil of the Arabic Language.

Please stop murdering Islamic and Arabic terms, you have been warned.

Why do you claim what you do not have?

Why is this thread still on 
People forget elementary math?
1+1=1??

abulbanaat:

Al-Muhandis, olodo ni e.

QAEDA AL-FAQUHIA!

Do you mean to say: 'Al-Qaaidah Al-Fiqihiyyah' which is singular form of 'Al-Qawaaid Al-Fiqihiyyah?'

I have said it on the other thread (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-506001.96.html#msg6744360) where you pose yourself as an Arabic lexicographer that you are a Jaahil of the Arabic Language.

Please stop murdering Islamic and Arabic terms, you have been warned.

Why do you claim what you do not have?

FIRST REVELATION OF JIHAD-repay those who mistreat you(see why forgiveness in Islam is non applicable)
SECOND REVELATION OF JIHAD-conquer your region(no room for tolerance,especially if NASIKH is applied)
THE FINAL REVELATION OF JIHAD conquer the world.use jihad to subdue the world-which is what the true muslims are doing via blood shed.No quaranic revelation overrides this last revelation.
So fellas brace up for more blood bath in the name of Allah-the god who must be fought for

In my next expouse I shall show you the three stages of jihad, and why the religious killings in the North of Nigeria WILL never end for now.Instead the muslims are always in one of the 3 stages of ,

;DChristianity and Islam have different views of God. Both the Bible and the Qur'an claim to be the Word of God but the theology of God is often strikingly different in these two books. What we are particularly concerned about here, however, is to discover in which book we find the best revelation of God's love towards men. Let us begin by studying briefly the teaching of the Qur'an about the love of God.

Firstly, there is in the Qur'an an exhortation to men to love God. Perhaps the best verse in the Qur'an which contains this injunction is this one:

"Say, If ye love Allah, follow me; Allah will love you and forgive you your sins". Surah 3:31
Compare with the Love of God in the Bible

One of the striking features of the Christian Bible is the title "Father" for God. He is given no name in the Christian Scriptures (unlike the other major religions of the world where God is always given a name in their holy books) but is always called by this title - either as "the Father" or "our Father" or "God the Father". When one considers the intimate relationship that exists between a father and his children, it is very easy to understand why we have no name for God. [ A man is addressed by his name when other men speak to him but his child always calls him "father". He does not address him by his surname for he himself bears his father's name. A name is given to a person to identify him from other men and a child bears his father's name because of the very close relationship between them. But, in view of this intimacy, it is not necessary that a father and his son should address one another by that common name.

Therefore, if God is pleased to become the Father of his people, this must mean that he is willing to enter into such a deep personal relationship with them that no name will be in any way needed to distinguish him from them. Not only so, but the command to love him with all our hearts, souls and minds has the best prospect of fulfilment if God, in deep love for us, is willing to become our very own Father. What child is there whom his father does not love? As John put it:

"See what love the Father has given us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are". 1 John 3:1

@al-muhandis, why the total digression from the purport of the thread? Anyway no problem continue to claim what you do not know about Islam, we shall let you see your folly. Were you not the same person claiming to be thought the Arabic Language by the 'Holy Ghost' and yet your 'Holy Ghost' let you down. This time around your 'Holy Ghost' will lead you to perdition.

Will you reason?

Hmmmmm you see how you wrong with your explanation well when a son shout at his father cos he need money or things do you know how disrespectful that is? so xtains always shout at there father for no reason and have you read about the prodigal son that what xtains are and we are the humble son we beg or God we praise him with so many sweet names that make him so happy to bless us. back to the name names. you said you dont call God names what was your level of stupidity or maybe you dont understand you religion. who do xtains call Emmanuel,Elohi,El-Shaddai Yahwee,Jehovah,Yehovah, Elohim,Adonai,Jehoval Jireh,Jehoval Nissi, Jehoval Rophe,Jehoval Shalom etc pls who are this names for?

meyri:

Why is this thread still on 
People forget elementary math?
1+1=1??

play down the LOW LEVEL mathematics. . .

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1 body + 1 soul = 1 human being

God the Father + God the Son + God the Holy Spirit = 1 God

-----------------------------------

Significantly, however, one does not find in this verse (nor in any other in the Qur'an) the command to love God with "all your heart, soul and mind". The reason is fairly clear from the verse itself. The hearer is exhorted to love God so that he may thereby obtain God's love and forgiveness. The basic object, therefore, of this love is the acquittal and approval of God for the believer. Accordingly the motivation for such love must be the welfare and comfort of the believer. It is not suggested in the Qur'an that such love must be exercised in a disinterested and selfless manner with the glory of God foremost in the believer's mind. On the contrary the object of such love is really the believer himself. He seeks by this love fundamentally to turn aside God's wrath and to gain his approval in its place. Now this is not the fruit of genuine love. Such love, as we have seen, must be the exercise of the purest affections of the heart towards God - it cannot be accompanied by an ancillary motive such as the principal objective of obtaining God's forgiveness.
COMPARE
This does not mean that God has taken to himself offspring but rather that he is prepared to draw so near to us in love that the intimate communion which will result from this love between him and true believers can only be compared to that which exists between a loving father and his children.

Now we know that God is Judge of all the earth and that he will deal with the sins of men on the Day of Wrath to come when his righteous judgments will be revealed. If we only know God as Judge of all we can expect no mercy on that day for men are brought before judges to be tried and condemned for their misdeeds. But a father is very different to a judge. While he may, in love and with the purpose of correction, chastise his children, it is forgiveness that really characterises the relationship between him and them. They will always be his children and, while a servant must work to earn his place in a home, and even then only stays outside in the servant's quarters and can be dismissed at any time, a son has absolute freedom in his father's house. He does not need to work to earn a place there, nor does he reside outside the house. He cannot be dismissed, but remains the heir to all things in his fa-ther's house. That which is the father's is his also. We all surely know the expression "one day my son, this will all be yours", symbolising the inheritance the son has to all that the father has built up during his lifetime. The following brief conversation between Jesus and his close disciple Peter brings this fact out very clearly:

"What do you think Simon? From whom do kings of the earth take toll or tribute? From their sons or from others?" And when he said "From others", Jesus said to him "Then the sons are free". Matthew 17:25-26.

an ILEGITIMATE religion can never have the LOCI STANDI to draw men to a god or critizise any other religion-thats my point
the three stages of jihad preparation coming to to this thread soonest!

You never still answer my Question whose those names i mention up there

1 God+1 God's Son +1 God's Holy Spirit= God, God's Son and  God's Holy Spirit; 3 things

Almuhandis:

an ILEGITIMATE religion can never have the LOCI STANDI to draw men to a god or critizise any other religion-thats my point
the three stages of jihad preparation coming to to this thread soonest!

Carry on, you shall be exposed and 'flogged.'

meyri:

1 God+1 God's Son +1 God's Holy Spirit= God, God's Son and  God's Holy Spirit; 3 things

This would also mean that =>
1 body of meyri + 1 soul of meyri = 1 body of meryi and 1 soul of meyri [2 PEOPLE]

bashy_demy:

Hmmmmm you see how you wrong with your explanation well when a son shout at his father cos he need money or things do you know how disrespectful that is? so xtains always shout at there father for no reason and have you read about the prodigal son that what xtains are and we are the humble son we beg or God we praise him with so many sweet names that make him so happy to bless us. back to the name names.

May be you should polish your comm skills. this is one of the reasons i just abandoned this thread earlier. You people fail to carry other discussants along due to poor comm skills. see how i am struggling to even understand the point you are trying to pass across there.

you said you dont call God names what was your level of stupidity or maybe you dont understand you religion. who do xtains call Emmanuel,Elohi,El-Shaddai Yahwee,Jehovah,Yehovah, Elohim,Adonai,Jehoval Jireh,Jehoval Nissi, Jehoval Rophe,Jehoval Shalom etc pls who are this names for?

But why worry and confuse yourself in all of these? The same way you refer to that stone in the black cubicle back in mecca with 99 names, the same way we have names that describe God the Almighty by His deeds, character, personality, His revelations et al. Just what is your headache here ? May be you should do a study of the meaning of hebrew/jewish names before raising these needless questions.

cgift:

May be you should polish your comm skills. this is one of the reasons i just abandoned this thread earlier. You people fail to carry other discussants along due to poor comm skills. see how i am struggling to even understand the point you are trying to pass across there.

But why worry and confuse yourself in all of these? The same way you refer to that stone in the black cubicle back in mecca with 99 names, the same way we have names that describe God the Almighty by His deeds, character, personality, His revelations et al. Just what is your headache here ? May be you should do a study of the meaning of hebrew/jewish names before raising these needless questions.

Hey where you just discharge from the Yaba without complete medication? well i guess you need to be transfer to Aro in Abeokuta for proper treatment. dint you what the idiot post ealier before i make my comment? and maybe you need to read the meaning of 99 names of Allah and beside i believe my own God have more than 99 names even more than millions if you meet those that know how to praise him very well

@Almuhandis; « #616 on: Yesterday at 03:20:11 PM »
[QUote];DChristianity and Islam have different views of God. Both the Bible and the Qur'an claim to be the Word of God but the theology of God is often strikingly different in these two books. What we are particularly concerned about here, however, is to discover in which book we find the best revelation of God's love towards men. Let us begin by studying briefly the teaching of the Qur'an about the love of God.

Firstly, there is in the Qur'an an exhortation to men to love God. Perhaps the best verse in the Qur'an which contains this injunction is this one:

"Say, If ye love Allah, follow me; Allah will love you and forgive you your sins". Surah 3:31
Compare with the Love of God in the Bible Cool

One of the striking features of the Christian Bible is the title "Father" for God. He is given no name in the Christian Scriptures (unlike the other major religions of the world where God is always given a name in their holy books) but is always called by this title - either as "the Father" or "our Father" or "God the Father". When one considers the intimate relationship that exists between a father and his children, it is very easy to understand why we have no name for God. [ A man is addressed by his name when other men speak to him but his child always calls him "father". He does not address him by his surname for he himself bears his father's name. A name is given to a person to identify him from other men and a child bears his father's name because of the very close relationship between them. But, in view of this intimacy, it is not necessary that a father and his son should address one another by that common name.

Therefore, if God is pleased to become the Father of his people, this must mean that he is willing to enter into such a deep personal relationship with them that no name will be in any way needed to distinguish him from them. Not only so, but the command to love him with all our hearts, souls and minds has the best prospect of fulfilment if God, in deep love for us, is willing to become our very own Father. What child is there whom his father does not love? As John put it:

"See what love the Father has given us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are". 1 John 3:1[/Quote]Is your mother the wife or one of the wives of the Christian God (Jesus, Ghost, Yahweh, Jehovah, Adonia, Eloi, Elohim; your choice of one all any combination or even all of them) or is she the wife of your father in the place you said you come from in Nigeria? I wanna see how you love your mother, respecting her or you may disrespect her claiming her for a different entity altogether, along with your father, te nigerian man, or you may just eliminate him, altogether. I will not be surprised. But we wanna see how you are ason of the one who your mother is not married to. Tell us please.

This people in order to make themselves feel important, they turn their mothers out. to an imaginary husband, along with their real father. Yet they forget that a spirit (ghost god) and their human father do not truly agree with the arrangement. Making a woman into a loose woman is not exactly elevating her, She has a human husband because she is human. Now you throw a ghost on her. That is sad.

nopuqeater:

This people in order to make themselves feel important, they turn their mothers out. to an imaginary husband, along with their real father. Yet they forget that a spirit (ghost god) and their human father do not truly agree with the arrangement. Making a woman into a loose woman is not exactly elevating her, She has a human husband because she is human. Now you throw a ghost on her. That is sad.

bashy_demy:

Hey where you just discharge from the Yaba without complete medication? well i guess you need to be transfer to Aro in Abeokuta for proper treatment. dint you what the post ealier before i make my comment? and maybe you need to read the meaning of 99 names of Allah and beside i believe my own God have more than 99 names even more than millions if you meet those that know how to praise him very well

You and all your comrades unsurprisingly are headed in an irreersible destruction. Funny enough, the whole world can clearly see through the emptiness of your hearts and souls.Your incoherence and lack of sense is just too visible to miss even the eyes not looking too deep.

imhotep:

This would also mean that =>
1 body of meyri + 1 soul of meyri = 1 body of meryi and 1 soul of meyri [2 PEOPLE]

No! My soul is me. I am a living soul. That has nothing to with God and Christ. Christ is not the soul of God. God is a spirit. Christ is a spirit. And God has an holy spirit, his active force. 3 things.

meyri:

No! My soul is me. I am a living soul. That has nothing to with God and Christ. Christ is not the soul of God. God is a spirit. Christ is a spirit. And God has an holy spirit, his active force. 3 things.

what are the 3things? 1 turning your father to a dullard 2 impregnated mother and 3 giving birth to you to this odd world

meyri:

No! My soul is me. I am a living soul.

. . . And your body is NOT YOU Please explain further . . .

meyri:

That has nothing to with God and Christ. Christ is not the soul of God. God is a spirit. Christ is a spirit.

. . .nobody ever said that Christ is the soul of God.

meyri:

And God has an holy spirit, his active force. 3 things.

. . . and the Holy Spirit of God is NOT GOD, I suppose . . .

Ignorance is deadlier than HIV.
JESUS IS LORD,The MONARCH of the UNIVERSE.
I rest my case.

kola oloye:

Ignorance is deadlier than HIV.
JESUS IS LORD,The MONARCH of the UNIVERSE.
I rest my case.

just like satan right?

bashy_demy:

just like satan right?

Point of correction:The Earth is the Lords and the fullness thereof so Satan has no inheritance here.

kola oloye:

Point of correction:The Earth is the Lords and the fullness thereof so Satan has no inheritance here.

Didn't the bible said satan is the god of this world. keep deluding youself.

Wisdom is the principal thing,with all thy getting get understanding.
God has given the Earth to the Sons of men.

vedaxcool:

Didn't the bible said satan is the god of this world. keep deluding youself.

The Bible says;" Little children ye are gods,,,."We are above the Satan.
I don't care how you feel about it but that is the truth.
I rest my case.