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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Alectrona11: 6:44am On Dec 05, 2018
budaatum:
Trump's countless scams are finally catching up to him. it seems likely that for the first time in his life, nothing can protect Donald J Trump from the trouble he’s made, and the sheer scale of it is astonishing.
The Guardian


Is the Guardian on the liberal list, by the way?



It is generally on the left. Also, you have provided an opinion piece. However, none of it disqualifies the article and the next weeks/months will prove it right or wrong. Personally, I love having access to right and left leaning media, news reports (factual) and op-eds (subjective opinion pieces) to get a balanced view. I choose not to live in an echo chamber where I get to hear what I would like to hear or read.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 7:07am On Dec 05, 2018
obixcel:
Stop whipping yourself into frenzy, or do you really have a cartoon brain, eh? Just relax! sit and watch as it unfolds. One thing is for sure, America now has a President who knows and recognizes the worth and value of Money, labour, and sweat. Not the one who wastes them chasing shadows.
Trump and his supporters is just building an ice castle, winter is coming to an end soon and all the glittering structure will start to melt.

The US economy is already showing signs of heading into a major recession.
https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjY6oCGgYjfAhWB4YUKHa7ADaMQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fnextavenue%2F2018%2F08%2F03%2Fis-the-next-recession-on-its-way%2F&psig=AOvVaw1GZyufVyUUONxveYBCg22Q&ust=1544075884345911

I really pity the administration that will come after Trump.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 7:12am On Dec 05, 2018
budaatum:
Trump's countless scams are finally catching up to him. it seems likely that for the first time in his life, nothing can protect Donald J Trump from the trouble he’s made, and the sheer scale of it is astonishing.
The Guardian


Is the Guardian on the liberal list, by the way?


Did they Itemize some of the "countless scams" that are catching up with him (with evidence to support). Seems like we heard this before for the past 2 yrs. Take a look at the famous phrases:
"The walls are closing in on him"
"Trump is finished and won't recover from this"
"No way Trump would get to 270...there is no path!"
*to name a few*
What you posted of course was an opinion piece from the Guardian

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 7:24am On Dec 05, 2018
wirinet:

Trump and his supporters is just building an ice castle, winter is coming to an end soon and all the glittering structure will start to melt.

The US economy is already showing signs of heading into a major recession.
https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjY6oCGgYjfAhWB4YUKHa7ADaMQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fnextavenue%2F2018%2F08%2F03%2Fis-the-next-recession-on-its-way%2F&psig=AOvVaw1GZyufVyUUONxveYBCg22Q&ust=1544075884345911

I really pity the administration that will come after Trump.
@Bolded Will Obama take credit for that too grin grin grin You are actually praying for that to happen so you can say Aha! we said it. Remember the liberal media predicted that the economy will crash as soon as Donald Trump gets into Office. Remember that? What happened? This is two years into d new administration. I'll continue to advise you to not leave your brains to The Simpsons or CNN.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 7:27am On Dec 05, 2018
budaatum:
US-China Trade deal?
Where is it?!
Negotiations has begun for the period of the 90 days - which is subject to further extension, depending on the progress.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 7:39am On Dec 05, 2018
obixcel:
@Bolded Will Obama take credit for that too grin grin grin You are actually praying for that to happen so you can say Aha! we said it. Remember the liberal media predicted that the economy will crash as soon as Donald Trump gets into Office. Remember that? What happened? This is two years into d new administration. I'll continue to advise you to not leave your brains to The Simpsons or CNN.
GM will lay off 14.000 workers and so many farmers are losing their farms all over America. Thanks to the tariffs. Imported cars will cost average of 10% more on America courtesy of the Orange one. How will you know that when you do not face realty of life in US except swallowing the junk being put out by the Orange pig and his Amen corner.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 7:41am On Dec 05, 2018
obixcel:
Did they Itemize some of the "countless scams" that are catching up with him (with evidence to support). Seems like we heard this before for the past 2 yrs. Take a look at the famous phrases:
"The walls are closing in on him"
"Trump is finished and won't recover from this"
"No way Trump would get to 270...there is no path!"
*to name a few*
What you posted of course was an opinion piece from the Guardian
The beginning of trump's craziness is the Democrats gaining 40 seats in the House and come Jan 3, there's a new Sheriff in town headed by Speaker Pelosi. You will know the meaning of real Democracy not the Brown envelope democracy you are used to .

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 7:58am On Dec 05, 2018
Abbeybailey:
GM will lay off 14.000 workers and so many farmers are losing their farms all over America. Thanks to the tariffs. Imported cars will cost average of 10% more on America courtesy of the Orange one. How will you know that when you do not face realty of life in US except swallowing the junk being put out by the Orange pig and his Amen corner.
Abbeybailey:
The beginning of trump's craziness is the Democrats gaining 40 seats in the House and come Jan 3, there's a new Sheriff in town headed by Speaker Pelosi. You will know the meaning of real Democracy not the Brown envelope democracy you are used to .

Shut up and stop talking nonsense!!!

God Bless President Donald John Trump !!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 8:00am On Dec 05, 2018
Anduku:



Shut up and stop talking nonsense!!!

God Bless President Donald John Trump !!!
Local boy, Keep deluding yourself in the village like the Orange pig give a hoot about you in your unlit dungeon.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 8:06am On Dec 05, 2018
Abbeybailey:
Local boy, Keep deluding yourself in the village like the Orange pig give a hoot about you in your unlit dungeon.
Stale, don't you have anything else to say? We have already heard this one about 1 billion times already. You need to borrow a leaf from the smart and innovative President Donald John Trump, the greatest president of the US in your lifetime!!!

God Bless President Donald John Trump!!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 12:34pm On Dec 05, 2018
Anduku:

Stale, don't you have anything else to say? We have already heard this one about 1 billion times already. You need to borrow a leaf from the smart and innovative President Donald John Trump, the greatest president of the US in your lifetime!!!

God Bless President Donald John Trump!!!
Coming from a foool whose only line in life is blessing Donald the Orange pig.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Alectrona11: 3:31pm On Dec 05, 2018
wirinet:

Trump and his supporters is just building an ice castle, winter is coming to an end soon and all the glittering structure will start to melt.

The US economy is already showing signs of heading into a major recession.
https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjY6oCGgYjfAhWB4YUKHa7ADaMQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fnextavenue%2F2018%2F08%2F03%2Fis-the-next-recession-on-its-way%2F&psig=AOvVaw1GZyufVyUUONxveYBCg22Q&ust=1544075884345911

I really pity the administration that will come after Trump.

A recession would have to follow with or without Trump. It's the natural order of things. One can only argue how much Trump has contributed to its pace and intensity. The bigger problem is that Trump decided to lower taxes (mainly for the rich) when the economy was booming instead of saving for rainy days (though he promised to reduce the debt) in order to create more jobs when unemployment was at a record high (illogical). It was popular with many but highly irresponsible. You give tax breaks in times of recession and you can additionally invest in infrastructure to boost growth in a stalling economy. You save when the economy is booming and revenues are high. In the next major recession the US will have to run up more debt to save the economy.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:51pm On Dec 05, 2018
obixcel:
Did they Itemize some of the "countless scams" that are catching up with him (with evidence to support). Seems like we heard this before for the past 2 yrs. Take a look at the famous phrases:
"The walls are closing in on him"
"Trump is finished and won't recover from this"
"No way Trump would get to 270...there is no path!"
*to name a few*
What you posted of course was an opinion piece from the Guardian
They do say the wheels of the law grind slowly.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 4:31pm On Dec 05, 2018
Alectrona11:


A recession would have to follow with or without Trump. It's the natural order of things. One can only argue how much Trump has contributed to its pace and intensity. The bigger problem is that Trump decided to lower taxes (mainly for the rich) when the economy was booming instead of saving for rainy days (though he promised to reduce the debt) in order to create more jobs when unemployment was at a record high (illogical). It was popular with many but highly irresponsible. You give tax breaks in times of recession and you can additionally invest in infrastructure to boost growth in a stalling economy. You save when the economy is booming and revenues are high. In the next major recession the US will have to run up more debt to save the economy.
I am happy some people see beyond all the noise and are able to think clearly.
You forgot to add the added effect of an unnecessary trade war with China and the rest of the world. When you increase tarrifs on foreign steel and aluminium, who will pay for it? It's the Americans of course as it increases production costs, since most US companies will have to import these items.
When you increase tarrifs on industrial and consumer goods from China it only increases the costs to an average US consumer. China is essential to the supply chain of goods manufactured in the US.
Everybody agrees that China engages in unfair trade practices, but you do not bring the whole house down to fix faulty roof. He should have gotten the cooperation of other countries or trading blocks to get China to change.

Let me add that China is hitting the US where it bites hardest. They are hitting back with agricultural products. They simply stopped buying soy beans and other agricultural products from the US. This has hit US farmers badly, as agricultural products rot in a short time. China can source the agricultural products elsewhere. If we had leaders that have a grain of sense, they should have invested heavily and quickly in agricultural products like soy beans. In less than one year we should be supplying China with billions of not millions of dollars of soy beans. Wise countries like Brazil has started supplying China with millions of dollars worth of soy beans.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 5:26pm On Dec 05, 2018
wirinet:

I am happy some people see beyond all the noise and are able to think clearly.
You forgot to add the added effect of an unnecessary trade war with China and the rest of the world. When you increase tarrifs on foreign steel and aluminium, who will pay for it? It's the Americans of course as it increases production costs, since most US companies will have to import these items.
When you increase tarrifs on industrial and consumer goods from China it only increases the costs to an average US consumer. China is essential to the supply chain of goods manufactured in the US.
Everybody agrees that China engages in unfair trade practices, but you do not bring the whole house down to fix faulty roof. He should have gotten the cooperation of other countries or trading blocks to get China to change.

Let me add that China is hitting the US where it bites hardest. They are hitting back with agricultural products. They simply stopped buying soy beans and other agricultural products from the US. This has hit US farmers badly, as agricultural products rot in a short time. China can source the agricultural products elsewhere. If we had leaders that have a grain of sense, they should have invested heavily and quickly in agricultural products like soy beans. In less than one year we should be supplying China with billions of not millions of dollars of soy beans. Wise countries like Brazil has started supplying China with millions of dollars worth of soy beans.
Lol...you're just spewing trash... china has already agreed to Import U.S agric. product like Soy beans. The negotiations had already begun and that has already been dealt with. Besides The U.S is China's biggest trade partners. They really need the US to stay put economically and Trump knew dis from the inception and that was why he slammed dem with tarrifs knowing that they'll crawl back to the table. It was China that was hit hard... you just spitting trash grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Alectrona11: 5:45pm On Dec 05, 2018
wirinet:

I am happy some people see beyond all the noise and are able to think clearly.
You forgot to add the added effect of an unnecessary trade war with China and the rest of the world. When you increase tarrifs on foreign steel and aluminium, who will pay for it? It's the Americans of course as it increases production costs, since most US companies will have to import these items.
When you increase tarrifs on industrial and consumer goods from China it only increases the costs to an average US consumer. China is essential to the supply chain of goods manufactured in the US.
Everybody agrees that China engages in unfair trade practices, but you do not bring the whole house down to fix faulty roof. He should have gotten the cooperation of other countries or trading blocks to get China to change.

Let me add that China is hitting the US where it bites hardest. They are hitting back with agricultural products. They simply stopped buying soy beans and other agricultural products from the US. This has hit US farmers badly, as agricultural products rot in a short time. China can source the agricultural products elsewhere. If we had leaders that have a grain of sense, they should have invested heavily and quickly in agricultural products like soy beans. In less than one year we should be supplying China with billions of not millions of dollars of soy beans. Wise countries like Brazil has started supplying China with millions of dollars worth of soy beans.

I don't care about consumer prices to be honest. People elected Trump to save them from the consequences of, as they say, globalism and yet they buy plenty of products made in China and other Asian countries, many of which they do not even need. They show them off on Facebook or wherever possible but they do not care to ask where and how they were manufactured. Later they complain about not having a job and look up to Trump like Jesus the Savior and at the same time continue with mass consumption and environmental pollution. Their decisions have come to bite their ass and neither Trump nor Jesus will save them from the bad decisions they make out of ignorance.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 7:48pm On Dec 05, 2018
obixcel:
Lol...you're just spewing trash... [b] china has already agreed to Import U.S agric. product like Soy beans. [/b]The negotiations had already begun and that has already been dealt with. Besides The U.S is China's biggest trade partners. They really need the US to stay put economically and Trump knew dis from the inception and that was why he slammed dem with tarrifs knowing that they'll crawl back to the table. It was China that was hit hard... you just spitting trash grin grin grin
You people have started your lies again, where and when did China agree to import US agric like soy beans? Where is the agreement? Just like the agreement Kim jung un signed with Trump to de-nuclearize the Korean peninsula, it's in the imagination of Trump. O! I forgot, Trump has built a wall between Mexico and US, and Mexico paid for it.

Yes China is the US biggest trading partner, but also US is china's biggest trading partner. A trade war will negatively affect both countries. The only difference is China can absorb more economic instability than the US.
Where did you see China crawl back to the table? China is diverting it's trade to Europe, Russia and other third world countries.

The Argentina trade talks was only photo opportunity for Trump, it achieved nothing. Let's wait for the 90 days Trump called for a ceasefire and see what happens.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 8:30pm On Dec 05, 2018
wirinet:

You people have started your lies again, where and when did China agree to import US agric like soy beans? Where is the agreement? Just like the agreement Kim jung un signed with Trump to de-nuclearize the Korean peninsula, it's in the imagination of Trump. O! I forgot, Trump has built a wall between Mexico and US, and Mexico paid for it.

Yes China is the US biggest trading partner, but also US is china's biggest trading partner. A trade war will negatively affect both countries. The only difference is China can absorb more economic instability than the US.
Where did you see China crawl back to the table? China is diverting it's trade to Europe, Russia and other third world countries.

The Argentina trade talks was only photo opportunity for Trump, it achieved nothing. Let's wait for the 90 days Trump called for a ceasefire and see what happens.
You are absolutely right. Obixcel is a shameless guy who carries water for the Orange one. Like you rightly said, where is the wall and when is Mexico paying for the wall. Whatever happens to cancelling ACA also known as Obama care ?. What happens to NK denuclearization program ?. The Argentina trade agreement needs affirmation by the Congress and Democrats take over the House of Representatives in January and we know what that means. The tariffs is killing jobs in America ( General Motors ) laying off 14.000 jobs and so many farms in the Midwest and other parts of America are folding up. Just yesterday, Dow Jones lost 800 points in one day because of Mr Tariff. He's not only an aberration and abomination, his days at the presidency will end up in shame which he rightly deserves.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 8:44pm On Dec 05, 2018
https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1070376816131694593

Donald Trump's pose at the funeral...he should at least pay his respect...seems so uninterested...
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 8:50pm On Dec 05, 2018
wirinet:

You people have started your lies again, where and when did China agree to import US agric like soy beans? Where is the agreement? Just like the agreement Kim jung un signed with Trump to de-nuclearize the Korean peninsula, it's in the imagination of Trump. O! I forgot, Trump has built a wall between Mexico and US, and Mexico paid for it.

Yes China is the US biggest trading partner, but also US is china's biggest trading partner. A trade war will negatively affect both countries. The only difference is China can absorb more economic instability than the US.
Where did you see China crawl back to the table? China is diverting it's trade to Europe, Russia and other third world countries.

The Argentina trade talks was only photo opportunity for Trump, it achieved nothing. Let's wait for the 90 days Trump called for a ceasefire and see what happens.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-on-coming-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here-when-it-blows-up

Trump on Coming Debt Crisis: ‘I Won’t Be Here’ When It Blows Up

Since the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump’s aides and advisers have tried to convince him of the importance of tackling the national debt.

Sources close to the president say he has repeatedly shrugged it off, implying that he doesn’t have to worry about the money owed to America’s creditors—currently about $21 trillion—because he won’t be around to shoulder the blame when it becomes even more untenable.

The friction came to a head in early 2017 when senior officials offered Trump charts and graphics laying out the numbers and showing a “hockey stick” spike in the national debt in the not-too-distant future. In response, Trump noted that the data suggested the debt would reach a critical mass only after his possible second term in office.

“Yeah, but I won’t be here,” the president bluntly said, according to a source who was in the room when Trump made this comment during discussions on the debt.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by TheShopKeeper(m): 12:43am On Dec 06, 2018
Michael Flynn should get no prison time after providing "substantial assistance" - according to Robert Mueller:

...Mueller hasn't done this with any others charged which says it all. Flynn gave everything up...he recommended 6 months in prison for Papadopoulos, for example...documents say Flynn provided information on multiple investigations (about 19 meetings)...so indirectly Donald Trump's presidential pardon is not needed...

...link to document...

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5425861-Flynn-filing.html
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:27am On Dec 06, 2018
Charles is a bit of a doomsayer, and its a view, still, China’s Global Electricity Takeover!
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:11am On Dec 06, 2018
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:14am On Dec 06, 2018
Adieu George H.W Bush

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Naza25: 7:43am On Dec 06, 2018
TheShopKeeper:


https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-on-coming-debt-crisis-i-wont-be-here-when-it-blows-up

Trump on Coming Debt Crisis: ‘I Won’t Be Here’ When It Blows Up

Since the 2016 presidential campaign, Donald Trump’s aides and advisers have tried to convince him of the importance of tackling the national debt.

Sources close to the president say he has repeatedly shrugged it off, implying that he doesn’t have to worry about the money owed to America’s creditors—currently about $21 trillion—because he won’t be around to shoulder the blame when it becomes even more untenable.

The friction came to a head in early 2017 when senior officials offered Trump charts and graphics laying out the numbers and showing a “hockey stick” spike in the national debt in the not-too-distant future. In response, Trump noted that the data suggested the debt would reach a critical mass only after his possible second term in office.

“Yeah, but I won’t be here,” the president bluntly said, according to a source who was in the room when Trump made this comment during discussions on the debt.
As usual, the source is anonymous and faceless. That's all the liberal media does, manufactures non existent stories and quote anonymous sources just like they did with the shithole story. This story is just another one of the endless stream of garbage journalism that the liberal media in the US have engaged in since Trump became president

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Naza25: 7:46am On Dec 06, 2018
TheShopKeeper:
https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1070376816131694593

Donald Trump's pose at the funeral...he should at least pay his respect...seems so uninterested...
Really? This is the latest thing you came up with to whine about? Jokers!!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 8:55am On Dec 06, 2018
Abbeybailey:
Coming from a foool whose only line in life is blessing Donald the Orange pig.
Shut up mumu, it is your father that is a fool not me.
And yes; GOD BLESS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP!!!

If you don't like it, FÜCK YOU!!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 1:58pm On Dec 06, 2018
Naza25:

Really? This is the latest thing you came up with to whine about? Jokers!!!
They whine about so many things....you haven't yet seen the last...more whining as President keeps winning.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 1:59pm On Dec 06, 2018
Mueller’s Flynn Memo Disappoints Resisters: No Jail Time or Hints of Collusion

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 10:19pm On Dec 06, 2018
Anduku:

Shut up mumu, it is your father that is a fool not me.
And yes; GOD BLESS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP!!!

If you don't like it, FÜCK YOU!!!
Not surprised at you because you come from a part of the country where you curse your father and wake him up from sleep with a sliding tackle. Worthless and hungry piece of Basura.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Anduku: 10:25pm On Dec 06, 2018
Abbeybailey:
Not surprised at you because you come from a part of the country where you curse your father and wake him up from sleep with a sliding tackle. Worthless and hungry piece of Basura.
Your father deserves the insults for giving birth to a stupid fool like you, if he brought you up well, nobody will be insulting him today because of your stupidity. He is a failure as a father and your are the most stupid human being on earth

Fück you stupid Abbeybailey!!!
Fück you stupid son of a foolish father!!!

God Bless President Donald John Trump !!!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Abbeybailey(m): 10:42pm On Dec 06, 2018
Anduku:

Your father deserves the insults for giving birth to a stupid fool like you, if he brought you up well, nobody will be insulting him today because of your stupidity. He is a failure as a father and your are the most stupid human being on earth

Fück you stupid Abbeybailey!!!
Fück you stupid son of a foolish father!!!

God Bless President Donald John Trump !!!
Go beat your hungry father as your people wont do.

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