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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 8:47am On May 23, 2021
wirinet:


Concluding files were deleted means something sinister or fraudulent is going on. Saying you can find the files just means you have not found them. They do not mean the same thing.

If the auditors did not initially find the files, why not ask the election officials for it before going to press and accusing them of deleting it? The cyberninja people are just desperate to prove election rigging.

As far as I know he said he recovered the file. Not finding the files in the correct(default) directory and not complying about the files till they say files were deleted is what we should be looking on.

Like I said in my previous post to basilico. From all the stuff I have seen about this issue. It could be the files were no deleted and also it could be the files were deleted. At this point it is not really clear which one is the case. Hence I said we should move on from this and look forward to the result.

But the leftwing media are just reporting their usual lies about this issue.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 8:52am On May 23, 2021
Ibime come o. I have so much free time for you. You like to yap so today is your lucky day. Come and tell us how your haircut cust more than the cash I make in a year. We want to hear cheesy

We both agree Islam is a problem. So you are a bigot and I am a bigot but I am also happy you and I can talk about Islam.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Ibime(m): 9:10am On May 23, 2021
benalvino2:


Money money money. I don't have money so what? I can still breath air, sleep under a roof with a good bed, gas cooker to make my nice meal and two cars to take me around. What more do I need? grin please tell me.

Shut up about your kabukabu cars. You sleeping under roof you are paying rent for.

benalvino2:
Ibime come o. I have so much free time for you. You like to yap so today is your lucky day. Come and tell us how your haircut cust more than the cash I make in a year. We want to hear cheesy

We both agree Islam is a problem. So you are a bigot and I am a bigot but I am also happy you and I can talk about Islam.

I am not discussing any Islam with you. These are friends of mine who became fundamentalists and terrorist supporters just like you are a bloody fundamentalist. Many of my mates in reunion group are still Muslims and still have problem with that ISIS sympathiser. Don't equate my disdain for fundamentalism with your rabid Islamophobia. When you start living life outside poverty and oppression, you will escape fundamentalism and stop ranting like a frustrated he-goat everyday.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 9:22am On May 23, 2021
benalvino2:


As far as I know he said he recovered the file. Not finding the files in the correct(default) directory and not complying about the files till they say files were deleted is what we should be looking on.

Like I said in my previous post to basilico. From all the stuff I have seen about this issue. It could be the files were no deleted and also it could be the files were deleted. At this point it is not really clear which one is the case. Hence I said we should move on from this and look forward to the result.

But the leftwing media are just reporting their usual lies about this issue.
That's why people refer to Trump supporters as cultists. You guys make many ridiculous allegations, you twist and turn logic on it's head when these allegations are debunk. When there is no longer room to twist and turn, you then turn to the maybe (It could be the files were no deleted and also it could be the files were deleted) argument.

This is not a maybe argument. The facts are no files were deleted as first alleged by cyberninja.

I know any one that reports the truth to you is labelled left wing media. So I won't be surprised if you label Reuters left wing media.

Fact Check-Maricopa County database was not deleted
Posts sharing information that the entire database of Maricopa County in Arizona was deleted amid an audit of the 2020 presidential election results are false.
The claim appears to stem from the fact that the auditing company struggled to access some files within the database.

The posts being shared with the claim appear to copy a statement released by former President Donald J. Trump on May 15, 2021 on his website here which says: “The entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!”

Trump’s tweet came after the official Twitter account of the Senate liaison for the audit said in a May 12, 2021 tweet here : “Breaking Update: Maricopa County deleted a directory full of election databases from the 2020 election cycle days before the election equipment was delivered to the audit. This is spoliation of evidence!”

Read the full report here - https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL2N2N8266

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:25am On May 23, 2021
Ibime:


Shut up about your kabukabu cars. You sleeping under roof you are paying rent for.



I am not discussing any Islam with you. These are friends of mine who became fundamentalists and terrorist supporters just like you are a bloody fundamentalist. Many of my mates in reunion group are still Muslims and still have problem with that ISIS sympathiser. When you start living life outside poverty and oppression, you will escape fundamentalism and stop ranting like a frustrated he-goat everyday.

Ibime cabu cabu? grin
We should Make this a rap battle.
But how did what you say make any difference? You and I still show concern for Islam. Yeah most of your friends become fundamentalists because of Islam.

You are about as bigot as I am

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 9:51am On May 23, 2021
wirinet:

That's why people refer to Trump supporters as cultists. You guys make many ridiculous allegations, you twist and turn logic on it's head when these allegations are debunk. When there is no longer room to twist and turn, you then turn to the maybe (It could be the files were no deleted and also it could be the files were deleted) argument.

This is not a maybe argument. The facts are no files were deleted as first alleged by cyberninja.

I know any one that reports the truth to you is labelled left wing media. So I won't be surprised if you label Reuters left wing media.

Where is your proof disproving what the auditors said? They stated they recovered the files, the other side said they did not delete it and me I am being neutral saying maybe they deleted it maybe they did not delete it and you are still not okay.

Please give us a video of the auditors admitting the files were not deleted or a written statement from them.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 10:05am On May 23, 2021
These cultists here just keep shouting leftists and abortion, preprogrammed fools spouting all their nonsense politics
but wait, who did this?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 10:25am On May 23, 2021
benalvino2:


Where is your proof disproving what the auditors said? They stated they recovered the files, the other side said they did not delete it and me I am being neutral saying maybe they deleted it maybe they did not delete it and you are still not okay.

Please give us a video of the auditors admitting the files were not deleted or a written statement from them.


Arizona auditors backtrack, say no election data destroyed

PHOENIX -- Firms hired to run a partisan audit of the 2020 election for Senate Republicans in Arizona said Tuesday that data was not destroyed, reversing earlier allegations that election officials in the state's most populated county eliminated evidence.

The claim of deleted databases was amplified by former President Donald Trump and his supporters, who believe conspiracy theories about election irregularities.

Ben Cotton, founder of a computer forensics firm working on the audit, told key senators that he had recovered all data. The revelation came a day after Maricopa County officials released a scathing letter saying the auditors couldn't find the data because they didn't know where to look.

I have the information I need from the recovery efforts of the data,” said Cotton, founder of CyFIR LLC.
I am sure you will not believe even the auditors that confirmed that the files were never deleted. Until your cult leader permits you to believe that no files were deleted before you believe.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by DissTroy(m): 10:38am On May 23, 2021
Biden unequivocally declared support for Israel yesterday and stated the Democratic Party is pro-Israel. Interesting, considering the fact that Leftist minions, even on Nairaland, kept attacking Trump for his pro-Israel stance.

All of a sudden the minions are dyslexic and have developed severe glaucoma - they can't see. Need eye surgery, gentlemen? You could use text-to-speech apps for a start.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 10:54am On May 23, 2021
wirinet:



I am sure you will not believe even the auditors that confirmed that the files were never deleted. Until your cult leader permits you to believe that no files were deleted before you believe.

That is the propaganda and you are not aware of what they are doing. You cannot recover what was not deleted. He said he recovered he did not say he found. Has the auditor said the database was not deleted or it is the media spin to what he said during the senate hearing?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:10am On May 23, 2021
benalvino2:


That is the propaganda and you are not aware of what they are doing. You cannot recover what was not deleted. He said he recovered he did not say he found. Has the auditor said the database was not deleted or it is the media spin to what he said during the senate hearing?


He said he recovered the deleted files.Media told us this was the most secure election.
The media is lying because to admit there was fraud would be opposite of what they repeat all day all night.
Even google is part of this charade of no files deleted. Search and left wing sites come up disputing the deleted.

I

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 11:18am On May 23, 2021
basilico:


He said he recovered the deleted files.Media told us this was the most secure election.
The media is lying because to admit there was fraud would be opposite of what they repeat all day all night.
Even google is part of this charade of no files deleted. Search and left wing sites come up disputing the deleted.

I


Don't mind them. Till today they still think Trump called white Supremacist very fine people. Media lie about it by cutting the video out of context. Even Jake tapper of cnn has admitted trump did not call white supranational fine people. They still run with that false narrative even the fact checkers

He said they recovered the files media lied they admitted the files were not deleted. The contradiction is open for anyone with open mind to see

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 11:33am On May 23, 2021
wirinet:



I am sure you will not believe even the auditors that confirmed that the files were never deleted. Until your cult leader permits you to believe that no files were deleted before you believe.

The image below shows all the contradiction you failed to see. Read the headline with the arrow you see below pointing out contradiction.

He clearly said he recovered the data and no where did he say the files were not deleted

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 11:34am On May 23, 2021
benalvino2:


That is the propaganda and you are not aware of what they are doing. You cannot recover what was not deleted. He said he recovered he did not say he found. Has the auditor said the database was not deleted or it is the media spin to what he said during the senate hearing?


It's now been reduced to semantics. Because he used the word recovered now means the files were deleted? You guys are completely and hopelessly lost.

Re-read the coloured part of the link I posted to understand the sequence of events.

Maricopa County officials wrote a letter saying the auditors could not find the data because they don't know where to look. The very next day the auditor said they now have the information they need to recover the data, but Trump's worshippers are still shouting fraud and deleted data. Na wa o! This obsession is becoming a psychological trauma. Even me most times can't find my own files on my own computer.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 11:40am On May 23, 2021
benalvino2:


The image below shows all the contradiction you failed to see. Read the headline with the arrow you see below pointing out contradiction.

He clearly said he recovered the data and no where did he say the files were not deleted

Hiw did the auditor not know where the data was on the hard drive and how did he recover the files. I forgot, he already told you but you refused to listen - he was told by Maricopa County officials.

You think if the auditors have to use specialized software and specialists to recover data from a hard drive, they would not say so. And besides, I have recovered data from a crashed hard drive before, it's an expensive and elaborated process, and you can never recover 100% of the data. You will be lucky if you recover 60%.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 11:44am On May 23, 2021
wirinet:


It's now been reduced to semantics. Because he used the word recovered now means the files were deleted? You guys are completely and hopelessly lost.

Re-read the coloured part of the link I posted to understand the sequence of events.

Maricopa County officials wrote a letter saying the auditors could not find the data because they don't know where to look. The very next day the auditor said they now have the information they need to recover the data, but Trump's worshippers are still shouting fraud and deleted data. Na wa o! This obsession is becoming a psychological trauma. Even me most times can't find my own files on my own computer.

In computer term, when you use the word recover with the word files. It means data was damaged or deleted and it is back to its default state. When you use the word found it means no damage to the data or no deletion happened. It is not semantics it is propaganda you are falling for.

There is no sequence of event from the colored part. The article you presented contradiction occurred in 3 areas. They stupidly quote him saying he recovered the files what was not present is the claim from the headline or heading.

And he explained in the video below that the database was not where it was suppose to be.

In the video he made it clear they recovered the deleted files but the media says he they walk back their claim. That's a lie.

Watch this video and tell me if the media are not lying to you
https://twitter.com/controscience/status/1395397299082186755?s=19
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 11:54am On May 23, 2021
wirinet:


Hiw did the auditor not know where the data was on the hard drive and how did he recover the files. I forgot, he already told you but you refused to listen - he was told by Maricopa County officials.

You think if the auditors have to use specialized software and specialists to recover data from a hard drive, they would not say so. And besides, I have recovered data from a crashed hard drive before, it's an expensive and elaborated process, and you can never recover 100% of the data. You will be lucky if you recover 60%.

They said they recovered it. If they are using Linux distro they may not even need a specialize software for that and even if they use they don't have to say the software they use.

The auditors know where the files are located even I can look at the directory of the software and find where the database table should be in no time.

You can recover 100% of the data. In computing, take 1% off a data and that data will be corrupted unusable not to talk about 40%.

Let's not kid ourselves. Even to get the password for the machines are not going down easy. They are trying to stall the audit by any means necessary
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:56am On May 23, 2021
wirinet:


Concluding files were deleted means something sinister or fraudulent is going on. Saying you can find the files just means you have not found them. They do not mean the same thing.

If the auditors did not initially find the files, why not ask the election officials for it before going to press and accusing them of deleting it? The cyberninja people are just desperate to prove election rigging.

Can you say that nothing fraudulent is
Now going on
Has been going on
Went on in the Nov elections
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 11:58am On May 23, 2021
basilico:


Can you say that nothing fraudulent is
Now going on
Has been going on
Went on in the Nov elections

Wirinet and Basilico this is directly from their handle addressing the media lies.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 12:02pm On May 23, 2021
basilico:


Can you say that nothing fraudulent is
Now going on
Has been going on
Went on in the Nov elections
For you to claim something fraudulent, you need proof. Just shouting fraud fraud everyday does not make it true.

If truly someone deleted the files as alleged, that would be a criminal offense that would send all those involved to jail. Why has the Senate committee carrying out the audits not recommend criminal prosecution if truly the data was deleted. That would shame the election officials and give some credence to Republican allegations that something fraudulent was going on. You guys are just clutching hot air.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 12:16pm On May 23, 2021
benalvino2:


Wirinet and Basilico this is directly from their handle addressing the media lies.

You guy are still clutching hot air. You guys just take sniper of clips or screen shot and magnify it out out of proportion and create a whole universe of of it.

Here is the complete story;

Arizona Audit: Audit Contractor Says He "Recovered" Deleted Files
A contractor said he was able to recover data that the Senate’s election audit team previously accused Maricopa County of deleting, undermining a serious allegation the audit publicly lodged against county election officials.

During a hearing in the Senate on Tuesday afternoon, Ben Cotton, founder of the digital forensics company CyFIR, a subcontractor on Senate President Karen Fann’s audit team, said he recovered the files after properly configuring the hard drive where the data was stored.

“I’ve been able to recover all of those deleted files, and I have access to that data,” Cotton said.

Cotton’s explanation indicates that county officials were correct when they said no files had been deleted.

The audit’s official Twitter account explicitly claimed the county “deleted a directory full of election databases from the 2020 election cycle” shortly before turning over its ballot tabulation machines to the audit. To back up its claim, it posted a screenshot purporting to show a list of deleted files, all of which were shown as being modified on April 12, about a week and a half before the county delivered the machines to Veterans Memorial Coliseum, where the audit is being conducted.

In a response letter to Fann on Monday, the county Board of Supervisors said the elections department shut down the servers on that date, and that the “modified” date only indicates changes the software made to the files’ metadata, which it said was a routine occurrence. Cotton said the audit team didn’t turn on the machines after receiving them.

Rather than examine the machines themselves, the audit team made digital copies of the equipment. The third-party software CyFIR used to analyze those digital copies gave the appearance that files were missing or deleted because the files were not in their original place, the county speculated.

Nonetheless, Cotton repeatedly used the word “deleted,” as did Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Petersen, who questioned audit team members with Fann at the hearing. After the hearing, Fann stood by Cotton’s assertion that the files had been deleted but he was able to recover them, though she said she wouldn’t refer the issue to the Attorney General’s Office or other law enforcement because “ we never said there was any wrongdoing.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch.com/arizona/across-az/amp/29527124/arizona-audit-audit-contractor-says-he-recovered-deleted-files

If the auditors had simply asked the Maricopa County officials where the files were in the first place instead of going to press with "deleted files"conspiracy. All these distractions would have been avoided. But then Trump's cult members love conspiracy theories, it's the air that keeps them alive.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 12:49pm On May 23, 2021
wirinet:


You guy are still clutching hot air. You guys just take sniper of clips or screen shot and magnify it out out of proportion and create a whole universe of of it.

Here is the complete story;


If the auditors had simply asked the Maricopa County officials where the files were in the first place instead of going to press with "deleted files"conspiracy. All these distractions would have been avoided. But then Trump's cult members love conspiracy theories, it's the air that keeps them alive.

From everything they said including files logs they showed indicated the database was missing. It was not where it was supposed to be. There is no point pushing this.

You still haven't provided anything or statement from the auditors claiming what the media say they claimed. When he speaks on video or twitter(Ben) he says he recovered deleted files.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:56pm On May 23, 2021
wirinet:


You guy are still clutching hot air. You guys just take sniper of clips or screen shot and magnify it out out of proportion and create a whole universe of of it.

Here is the complete story;


If the auditors had simply asked the Maricopa County officials where the files were in the first place instead of going to press with "deleted files"conspiracy. All these distractions would have been avoided. But then Trump's cult members love conspiracy theories, it's the air that keeps them alive.

The hard disks were most likely mirrored.
The fact checker is twisting facts. Its clearly indicated the database folder was on Drive D. This means the image made of the Hard drive actually picked up the logical partitions of the server. The clients were referencing Drive D to a specific folder.
The files were deleted period. The meeting called was not about the deleted folders specifically but there were other issues the senate wanted answers on.. eg chain of custody, and why indicated ballots were different than the actual ballots in some hatches.
They never went to meeting- they still have not answered those queries.
A professional can never say I recovered deleted files if they had not been deleted. He would have said missing or something like that.

The media is now fully commie.They make up stories and run them as true.They ignore true stories , deleting and cancelling individuals.
They twist stories to set a particular narrative.
They know simpletons will believe them if a story is repeated by most of the media working in tandem.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino2(m): 1:16pm On May 23, 2021
ABC Arizona grin grin
See the like to dislike ratio.
ABC reporters are saying the recovery of deleted files is proof no file was deleted grin this people no go kill person with lies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbvEXixaXkU

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 1:48pm On May 23, 2021
Obrigardo:
These cultists here just keep shouting leftists and abortion, preprogrammed fools spouting all their nonsense politics
but wait, who did this?
I was going to post the news here but you have already posted it.

So let me post this one instead,the GQP is truly a party of family values grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:10pm On May 23, 2021
benalvino2:


Wirinet and Basilico this is directly from their handle addressing the media lies.

Thats it.
Database was deleted and are checking the recovered one for usability.

Anything else is the media helping the board conceal their criminal action of deleting the data.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:11pm On May 23, 2021
AmazonTopaz:

I was going to post the news here but you have already posted it.

So let me post this one instead,the GQP is truly a party of family values grin
Hi

For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of the Lord.
Conservatives are not saints.
Democrats glorify such especially abortion. My body my choice.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:16pm On May 23, 2021
[s]

You guy are still clutching hot air. You guys just take sniper of clips or screen shot and magnify it out out of proportion and create a whole universe of of it.

Here is the complete story;


If the auditors had simply asked the Maricopa County officials where the files were in the first place instead of going to press with "deleted files"conspiracy. All these distractions would have been avoided. But then Trump's cult members love conspiracy theories, it's the air that keeps them alive.[/s]
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 3:47pm On May 23, 2021
AmazonTopaz:

I was going to post the news here but you have already posted it.

So let me post this one instead,the GQP is truly a party of family values grin




Leftist and lack of intellectual capacity for critical thinking and analysis

Using the action of one man to make hasty generalization of a big poliltcal platform, fvcking outlier fallacy

Liberals don't think even the ones with IQ,very good at sophistry but lack the ability to apply deductive logic, making only plausible opinions

Only good at rationalizations and gaslighting, no wonder their party accepts the absurdity of Tran-women being real Biological women


Nonsense

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:54pm On May 23, 2021
Lol Texas banning racism,White supremacy and current events from being taught in schools

Does banning racism from being taught stop racism?That is why they have chosen to wage a war on the critical race theory


grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 4:17pm On May 23, 2021
AmazonTopaz:
Lol Texas banning racism,White supremacy and current events from being taught in schools

Does banning racism from being taught stop racism?That is why they have chosen to wage a war on the critical race theory


grin




Poor intellectual capacity
No evidence of systematic racism via legislative actions like segregation
No prove of widespread white supremacy and systematic police brutality

Few anomalies but that doesn't change the general fact, if racism exists like in the past every one would leave America no one would want to come

Black Americans perform poorest in every societal statistics because they don't have IQ
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 4:19pm On May 23, 2021
Critical race theory is Neo-marxism which causes class warfare between different races, like all marxist theories and ideologies they were never valid and they didn't solve anything but led to chaos , destruction and loss of lives

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