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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:17pm On May 01, 2020
garetz:
Did you know:

The day after the made-up Julie Swetnick allegations surfaced, CNN gave disgraced lawyer & felon Michael Avenatti 35 minutes on 3 different primetime shows to attack Brett Kavanaugh

I wonder why they haven't given the same coverage to Tara Reade's allegations


Tara Reade is not a woman, Maybe she uses a transgender bathroom.
When Americans see these hypocritical attitudes that is why they laugh at liberals

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:19pm On May 01, 2020
fieryy:


This is ridiculous. Nobody ever said that. Those who are guilty should simply be held accountable period!

Was Kavanaugh ever guilty before the liberals tried to block his supreme court nomination for alleged sexual assualt?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:21pm On May 01, 2020
feedthenation:


Why didn't Tara Reade bring up this allegation against Joe Biden when he was Vice President for 8 solid years, suddenly this came when he is about to be the nominated presidential candidate for the DNC.

Why didnt Blaisey Ford and Swetnick bring up their accusations all through Kavanaughs career until he was about to be appointed into the supreme court?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 3:35pm On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


Was Kavanaugh ever guilty before the liberals tried to block his supreme court nomination for alleged sexual assualt?

I don't think you understood my comment. Everyone found guilty should be held accountable, either Republicans or Democrats! Joe Biden now being accused doesn't mean Kavanaugh's innocent

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 4:41pm On May 01, 2020
coluka:
I never thought this thread could get worse, see how the TDS afflicted liberal vermins are running amok all over the thread. Who opened the door of the liberal plantations? Who let all these Plantation niggers out?
in your foolishness (no apologies) you brandish the term plantation nigger as an insult, if not for your foolishness like I mentioned earlier and your lack of historical perspective, or lack of basic history at all, you would have known that amongst blacks, plantation niggers is no insult, it is actually praising the fortitude and resilience of the blacks who chose to resist and put up a fight against slavery and oppression as against house niggers which you and black tRump supporters belong to by default who took pride in their slave status inasmuch as they were placed on step above their brothers in the plantation and were the moles and saboteurs who betrayed other blacks who strove for freedom! So yours is the insult! House nigger! Continue hustling for crumbs from your white slave master's table along side his dogs because that's what you are, tRumps dogs!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:46pm On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


Are we not going to believe her and ask Biden to step down like Kavanaugh?
You and who is this "we" who is believing without any evidence?

buda is not a believer! I just thought the pressure might have made him step down, but such pressure obviously means nothing in the US of A, and whatever party one belongs to, one can grab women by the pussy on the streets of New York and somewhat get away with it it seems, as Clinton, Trump, Kavanaugh and now Biden are showing us, though only one actually was found guilty of actually grabbing pussys albeit not in New York, and for some reason, some (Epstein, Cosby and likely that I Can Do Nothing Wrong Kelly), can't get away with it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 4:56pm On May 01, 2020

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:20pm On May 01, 2020

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:26pm On May 01, 2020
fieryy:


I don't think you understood my comment. Everyone found guilty should be held accountable, either Republicans or Democrats! Joe Biden now being accused doesn't mean Kavanaugh's innocent

Democrats didnt wait for Kavanaugh to be found guilty before they believed his accusers and asked that he step down

Should the same courtesy be applied to Joe Biden? Should we believe Tara Reade and ask Biden to step down

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 6:07pm On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


I am wondering what is holding the tongue of liberals who believed all women and now they are not believing Tara Reade? Maybe her DNA is not the women X chromosome, maybe Tara is a man thats why they are not believing her and now asking for due process the same due process they denied Kavanaugh

If we are to follow due process and believe all women, what of Trump himself that has 25 women come forward and allege sexual misconduct against him?

So we have 25 against 1. Most of the 25 women are far more credible than Tara Reade.
If the 25 sexual allegations against trump did not matter to his supporters, why do you think one weak allegation by a woman with a history of unsubstantiated sexual accusations will matter to Joe Biden's supporters.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PremierGuy(m): 6:11pm On May 01, 2020
feedthenation:


Lt. General Michael T. Flynn is an American Hero indeed, who served the US for almost 3 decades!

What is the genesis of the case?

Two years at Defence Intelligence Agency as its Director, Flynn was ousted (he clashed with Obama), then he retired from the US Army.

There after, he set up a private consulting firm and represented a number of foreign clients — including some with controversial ties in Turkey and Russia. Documents show that Flynn was paid $33,000 for a speech he delivered at the event, a celebratory dinner for Russia Times (RT) - a state-owned network. As a retired Army lieutenant general, he was required to get permission from the military to receive payments from a foreign government, and according to media reports, it's not clear whether he requested it and neither declared the payment.. This resulted in an ongoing investigation before he was tapped by Trump.

In 2016, Flynn began advising Trump, on security and intelligence issues. They seemed to be on the same page, both willing to explore the possibility of better relations with Moscow. Flynn on his part established a relationship with Russia's ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak, during the presidential campaign.

Fast-forward to December 2016, just after the Trump was elected President-Elect, it came into the open that Flynn had a telephone conversation, after the two had met in New York at Trump Tower in early December, they also spoke by phone on Dec. 19. They texted on Christmas and spoke again on Dec. 28 and 29 - to discuss ways by which the incoming Trump administration would offer sanction reliefs for Russia (he is not in position to be having this discussion, as Trump hasn't been sworn in yet - as he was getting highly classified intelligence briefing). All conservations were recorded. Students of history will know that the Obama administration placed heavy economic and financial sanctions on Russia because of its aggression on Ukraine.

He was even caught lying to VP-elect Michael Pence,
Pence's statement from December 22, 2017 on Flynn
"What I can tell you is I knew that he lied to me," Pence replied, "and I know the president made the right decision with regard to him."


Trump blames Obama for not warning him about Michael Flynn. Which Obama did. - As usual Trump never takes responsibility for anything.
https://www.vox.com/2019/5/17/18629545/trump-michael-flynn-tweet-obama-warned-him

There was no entrapment from any agency -
Now, not only did Flynn verbally plea he signed legal documents that he agreed to the terms the conditions of the plea, all done with his lawyers present. Flynn pleaded guilty to the charges and signed. So does this mean his own lawyers are part of the framing too?

Now bolstered by Trump's rhetorics, Attorney General Bill Barr actions at DoJ, Flynn's attorney is now making noise about the FBI and injustice. Trump have repeatedely smeared the FBI and all the Intel agencies because they've got him by the balls and his strategy all along has been to discredit them to avoid his own prosecution by casting doubt on their operations.


Flynn's association with Putin is already a treasonable offense. There's still the underlying cold war that still exist between US and Russia
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:44pm On May 01, 2020
wirinet:


If we are to follow due process and believe all women, what of Trump himself that has 25 women come forward and allege sexual misconduct against him?

So we have 25 against 1. Most of the 25 women are far more credible than Tara Reade.
If the 25 sexual allegations against trump did not matter to his supporters, why do you think one weak allegation by a woman with a history of unsubstantiated sexual accusations will matter to Joe Biden's supporters.

Its democrats that want to believe all women whether their story is credible or unsubstantiated, Republicans believe everyone until proven guilty

I am simply asking you to use your democrat standard of believing all women to Biden a democrat,
Republicans do not believe in believing women only so their standards stand when their people like Trump and Kavanaugh are tested with it

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 7:33pm On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


Democrats didnt wait for Kavanaugh to be found guilty before they believed his accusers and asked that he step down

Should the same courtesy be applied to Joe Biden? Should we believe Tara Reade and ask Biden to step down
it should, I support Joe biden for presidency over tRump any day any time, but accusations of sexual misconduct against biden must be investigated exhaustively, so also accusations against tRump must be investigated exhaustively also! No sweeping under the rug! As I called for kavanaugh's investigation so would I clamour for biden's! Sexual predators shouldn't be allowed near power, it was a mistake by democrats to think this issue and biden's senility would not be tackled by the opposition and we all as supporters of the democratic party should avoid any form of hypocrisy especially of this manner
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 8:15pm On May 01, 2020
GalaticHorde:
it should, I support Joe biden for presidency over tRump any day any time, but accusations of sexual misconduct against biden must be investigated exhaustively, so also accusations against tRump must be investigated exhaustively also! No sweeping under the rug! As I called for kavanaugh's investigation so would I clamour for biden's! Sexual predators shouldn't be allowed near power, it was a mistake by democrats to think this issue and biden's senility would not be tackled by the opposition and we all as supporters of the democratic party should avoid any form of hypocrisy especially of this manner

Should Biden also step down like Democrats wanted Kavanaugh to pending the investigation into his sexual misconduct?

It was the standard given by Democrats and at the minimum they should follow their own set standards. Believe all women including Tara Reade

Republicans didnt set an standards like that, they believed everyone until proven guilty

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 8:30pm On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


Should Biden also step down like Democrats wanted Kavanaugh to pending the investigation into his sexual misconduct?

It was the standard given by Democrats and at the minimum they should follow their own set standards. Believe all women including Tara Reade

Republicans didnt set an standards like that, they believed everyone until proven guilty
Very warped and insane reasoning. Biden should step down pending investigations because Democrats have a standard of believing all women. But, all Republicans accused by women are not required to step down (even thpugh Kavanaugh did not step down) because Republicans have an opposite standard of not believing any woman. Trump with over 25 allegations is not required to step down ( with some law suits) pending investigations, but Joe Biden with just a single allegation (with the woman not ready to go to court) should step down. It's like saying crimes should only be investigated and prosecuted based on the moral beliefs of the accused.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:03pm On May 01, 2020
wirinet:

Very warped and insane reasoning. Biden should step down pending investigations because Democrats have a standard of believing all women. But, all Republicans accused by women are not required to step down (even thpugh Kavanaugh did not step down) because Republicans have an opposite standard of not believing any woman. Trump with over 25 allegations is not required to step down ( with some law suits) pending investigations, but Joe Biden with just a single allegation (with the woman not ready to go to court) should step down. It's like saying crimes should only be investigated and prosecuted based on the moral beliefs of the accused.

When Democrats were railing and shouting for Kavanaugh to step down based on mere accusation where did this your equivcation go then?

These are Democratic senators calling for Kavanaugh to step down for sexual accusation, when will they extend same to Biden

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 9:40pm On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


Should Biden also step down like Democrats wanted Kavanaugh to pending the investigation into his sexual misconduct?

It was the standard given by Democrats and at the minimum they should follow their own set standards. Believe all women including Tara Reade

Republicans didnt set an standards like that, they believed everyone until proven guilty
which democrats? I will speak for myself, I would accept biden stepping down until investigations are completed, but in the spirit of fairness at the same time tRump and kavanaugh must also step down! Agreed?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:45pm On May 01, 2020
GalaticHorde:
which democrats? I will speak for myself, I would accept biden stepping down until investigations are completed, but in the spirit of fairness at the same time tRump and kavanaugh must also step down! Agreed?

That is the Democratic party standard not that of Republicans

Republicans believe all parties are innocent until proven otherwise, Its democrats who believe all women without investigating

Democrats who insisted Kavanaugh stepped down like these here

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11458893_kav1_png2465e47e01b86d451bb7a1d2b6d001f4
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11458897_kava_png3d771cdd7830e062ecb835be802c1dd5

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 9:46pm On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


That is the Democratic party standard not that of Republicans

Republicans believe all parties are innocent until proven otherwise, Its democrats who believe all women without investigating
so there should be double standards then? And I thought you were being serious
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 9:47pm On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


When Democrats were railing and shouting for Kavanaugh to step down based on mere accusation where did this your equivcation go then?

These are Democratic senators calling for Kavanaugh to step down for sexual accusation, when will they extend same to Biden
Immediately after Republicans call for Trump to step down for allegedly violently raping a 13 year old girl, and for any of the 24 other sexual assault allegations.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:48pm On May 01, 2020
GalaticHorde:
so there should be double standards then? And I thought you were being serious

If you set a standard you should be ready to live by it and others cannot be forced to live by your standards

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:49pm On May 01, 2020
wirinet:

Immediately after Republicans call for Trump to step down for allegedly violently raping a 13 year old girl, and for any of the 24 other sexual assault allegations.

Republicans dont believe women blindly, they only judge one as guilty after investigation and trials not accusations. Its only democrats who told us any accusation by a woman must be binding and a ground to step down

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by GalaticHorde: 9:57pm On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


If you set a standard you should be ready to live by it and others cannot be forced to live by your standards

isn't that the point? On biden's and the democrats behalf I am ready to live by it as should every body else after all fair is fair! Isn't it rich of you to criticise democrats for double standards and in the same argument attempt to practice double standards? Only republicans can be so brazen with their hypocrisy! The democrats you are trying to call out recognise their hypocrisy that's why they make little to no noise about it hoping it would die a silent death but you republicans are world renowned to be illogical and silly to the core! Owning military grade assault rifles are rights, we hate socialism but collect relief cheques and so many moronic arguments I don't care to go into and this is just another example, because I choose to hold you and myself to a higher moral standard it should apply to me alone while you are left free to be as immoral as can be undecided
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 10:02pm On May 01, 2020
raumdeuter:


Republicans dont believe women blindly, they only judge one as guilty after investigation and trials not accusations. Its only democrats who told us any accusation by a woman must be binding and a ground to step down
Even when the accused declared on live TV that he "grabs them by the pussy"? What will Republicans believe then? Even if he rapes them in the middle of 5th avenue in broad daylight, will Republicans believe?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 10:16pm On May 01, 2020
No! You should be asking yourself why you are so dumb or a liar!

Obama was Barry Soetoro throughout his life and high school, he miraculously became Barack Obama when in university which his high school classmates wondered how their class dullard got into Harvard until they found out it was a CIA fix.


The man who cooked up the fake Obama's birth cert later died in a plane crash, an Obama's choice of death for people who know too much!

The birther movement was started in 2008 by Hillary Clinton because she knew, and the only reason the birth cert issue was settled behind closed door was that McCain himself was born in Panama before the US set up a base there and not an American born. There's also a Kenya birth cert for Obama flowing around at a point, he can't possibly be born in 2 places.

Stop talking nonsense, everything will be declassified soon.

Obama's people own the media and write what they want. See how the CEOS all connect through marriages.
budaatum:

Why do you lie so much?

How can you say this after your trump made Obama show you his birth certificate with his name on it?

http://www.bnd.com/living/liv-columns-blogs/answer-man/article162988863.html

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 10:38pm On May 01, 2020
wirinet:

Even when the accused declared on live TV that he "grabs them by the pussy"? What will Republicans believe then? Even if he rapes them in the middle of 5th avenue in broad daylight, will Republicans believe?
You're a liar, Trump did not say he grabs women by the pussy. He says when you're a celebrity women will allow you do anything, they will even allow you grab them by the pussy. That's his statement, stop twisting it into something he didn't say

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 10:52pm On May 01, 2020
GalaticHorde:
isn't that the point? [b]On biden's and the democrats behalf I am ready to live by it [/b]as should every body else after all fair is fair! Isn't it rich of you to criticise democrats for double standards and in the same argument attempt to practice double standards? Only republicans can be so brazen with their hypocrisy! The democrats you are trying to call out recognise their hypocrisy that's why they make little to no noise about it hoping it would die a silent death but you republicans are world renowned to be illogical and silly to the core! \

Then do and live by your standards, Tell Bide to step down and believe his accuser.

Republicans did not set any such standard

All we ask is that you live that the standard you set.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 10:53pm On May 01, 2020
fieryy:


This is ridiculous. Nobody ever said that. Those who are guilty should simply be held accountable period!
I come with receipts oh, here is the Biden you're defending talking during the kavanaugh case

Joe Biden: When a woman alleges sexual assault, presume she is telling the truth

“For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you’ve got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she’s talking about is real, whether or not she forgets facts, whether or not it’s been made worse or better over time. But nobody fails to understand that this is like jumping into a cauldron.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-biden-when-a-woman-alleges-sexual-assault-presume-she-is-telling-the-truth/2018/09/17/7718c532-badd-11e8-a8aa-860695e7f3fc_story.html#click=https:///n1MEouf3nF

So you're admitting now that Joe Biden sounds ridiculous but you were surely applauding him when he took this stance against Kavanaugh. Now it's his turn, all were saying is he should be held by the same standards that he held kavanaugh by

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Zuorom: 10:56pm On May 01, 2020
GalaticHorde:
isn't that the point? On biden's and the democrats behalf I am ready to live by it as should every body else after all fair is fair! Isn't it rich of you to criticise democrats for double standards and in the same argument attempt to practice double standards? Only republicans can be so brazen with their hypocrisy! The democrats you are trying to call out recognise their hypocrisy that's why they make little to no noise about it hoping it would die a silent death but you republicans are world renowned to be illogical and silly to the core! Owning military grade assault rifles are rights, we hate socialism but collect relief cheques and so many moronic arguments I don't care to go into and this is just another example, because I choose to hold you and myself to a higher moral standard it should apply to me alone while you are left free to be as immoral as can be undecided
Stop making unnecessary noise and live by the rules you made. Republicans never subscribed to that rule so you can't impose it on them, it was you liberals including Biden himself that made those rules so we are just asking you to stop being hypocrites and live by the same rules you set. Simple!!

BTW, there is no higher moral standard in believing any woman who alleges rape even when they haven't proven their case against the accused, it is plain stupidity. That's the stupid rule liberals decided to set so they should live by it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 10:57pm On May 01, 2020
wirinet:

Even when the accused declared on live TV that he "grabs them by the pussy"? What will Republicans believe then? Even if he rapes them in the middle of 5th avenue in broad daylight, will Republicans believe?

Trump said "And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything"

So who did he grab by the pusssy?

So if You say when I am rich, I will fly to Hollywood and marry J.Lo.

So can I say you have done it already? And accuse me of marrying J.Lo

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wowcatty: 11:01pm On May 01, 2020
Exactly! That's why the women paid by the democrats to frame Trump couldn't nail him cos it never happened! The only woman among them who knows Trump was busted on tv by her own brother who knew how she always said good things about Trump and even campaigned for him until Trump failed to show up at her new restaurant opening. We also know that Stormy Daniels is a porner who got paid for her service and was pushed by democrats to extort him further, I guess he will answer to his maker on adultery.

Thank God for a woman loving president, saw a video years ago of a man confessing how he performed felatio on Obama within hours of meeting him. The word around town is, Obama and Gillium who was caught pant down recently often participate in gay orgy together.

10 mins video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwgD-8Bj_Qs
Zuorom:

You're a liar, Trump did not say he grabs women by the pussy. He says when you're a celebrity women will allow you do anything, they will even allow you grab them by the pussy. That's his statement, stop twisting it into something he didn't say

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by coluka: 11:04pm On May 01, 2020
GalaticHorde:
in your foolishness (no apologies) you brandish the term plantation nigger as an insult, if not for your foolishness like I mentioned earlier and your lack of historical perspective, or lack of basic history at all, you would have known that amongst blacks, plantation niggers is no insult, it is actually praising the fortitude and resilience of the blacks who chose to resist and put up a fight against slavery and oppression as against house niggers which you and black tRump supporters belong to by default who took pride in their slave status inasmuch as they were placed on step above their brothers in the plantation and were the moles and saboteurs who betrayed other blacks who strove for freedom! So yours is the insult! House nigger! Continue hustling for crumbs from your white slave master's table along side his dogs because that's what you are, tRumps dogs!
In your stupidity (no apologies) you have allowed yourself to be brainwashed into becoming a liberal zombie (No apologies either) I can't waste my time reading the nonsensical liberal drivel you vomited, I don't have any brain cells to kill. when I do, then I can spend time reading the rants of dimwitted liberal plantation niggers. And yeah, y'all are nothing but miserable liberal plantation niggers (no apologies)

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