MaziOmenuko:
Why can't JOHESU ask for a review of salary without comparing with NMA salary scale? It reeks of jelousy and back-biting. I am sure that if you pay JOHESU what NMA is currently earning now and then increase NMA money, JOHESU will embark on another strike.

Now, Non-Academic Staff Union of Universities are keenly watching the development. They too, will start agitating for parallel salary scale with lecturers and to be able to head universities too. In life there is always order' two captains cannot run a ship.

PaChukwudi44:


you know that will never happen.I am not a medical doctor but it would be grossly unfair to suggest Doctors should earn same thing as lab scientists or nurses.It is even laughable to suggest.Go on strike from now until 2028 it wont happen.It takes a lot to become a medical Doctor.If there are to nearn the same thing peope would rather chose to become lab scientists or nurses than to go through the rigours that it takes to become a medical Doctor.

xreal:


Do you know the rigours pharmacist go through before being certified? Same goes to medical health records professionals who renew their certificates every year (either employed or not).

Relate with the physiotherapist, Radiologist and you will know how vital their role is in the hospital.

Don't let us mention nurses.

Being a medical doctor is by choice, just as being a medical laboratory scientist is.

Discrimination shouldn't be that obvious in a government established hospital.

Yes, doctors can earn more from call duty allowances, pharmacist also run call, virtually most of these professionals run one of either overtime, call, and so on. The difference can come from there and not salary scale.

Also if I am a Radiologist, let an experienced radiologist head my department and not a medical doctor.

I am sure if JOHESU keeps quiet as they had been, a medical doctor will head the works department ( if that hasn't been happening already).

MaziOmenuko:
Why can't JOHESU ask for a review of salary without comparing with NMA salary scale? It reeks of jelousy and back-biting. I am sure that if you pay JOHESU what NMA is currently earning now and then increase NMA money, JOHESU will embark on another strike.

Now, Non-Academic Staff Union of Universities are keenly watching the development. They too, will start agitating for parallel salary scale with lecturers and to be able to head universities too. In life there is always order' two captains cannot run a ship.

pxjosh:
Can't help but laugh at this

The guy is quite funny.

Uchemus:
This one doesn't even know the difference between a Radiologist and a Radiographer..

Amarabae:

First of all, I am not a lab technician,
I am a graduate nurse who also spent years in the University,
It is not fair for a doctor to earn the same thing with every other health professionals, but rather we are asking for Equity and not equality.
Johesu ask for salary increment and other non salary things,
They did not say pay us the same thing you pay doctors
Thanks.

tsquaure:
Dont worry Johesu . Many more docs will leave the shores of this country . I just pity the ordinary nigerians who will be left to d caprices of nurses and pharmacists.
It is only in my country nurses n pharmacists claim to know what d doctors does except for surgery. Una go dey alrighr las las
That is how one nurse almost killed during nysc because she claimed to know more that d nysc doctor . I spent more days in the hospital flushing out d drug she administered as i had a bad reaction to it .

kolmart:
Permit me to make a simply analysis on this topic. I know some ignorant people will continue to say the doctors are the supreme in the hospital setting yes they may quite right and wrong but for example for those people who are used to hospital setting very well, when a patient went to hospital to seek for medical care, such patients didnt go to see doctors direct, first and foremost such patients needs to be clerk by Medical Information officer who will clerk him/her issue such patient an hospital card from their such patients will be headed to the hospital account clerk for payment after payment the nurses begin to see to his/her vital sign then from their to see the doctors if such patient is having language barrier such doctor needs the help of interpreter after consultation such patient if necessary will be referred to laboratory scientists for lab test after result such patient will be back to see the doctor after reading the result of the laboratory the doctors will prescribe a drug and the patient will take it to pharmacist to get the drugs. Now let me ask us a question, if laboratory scientists, Pharmacist and Nurses gave the doctor wrong information about such patient will the work of such doctors be successful? We are working as a team, a tree doesnt make forest, without JOHESU no Doctors and without Doctors no JOHESU we are very reliable on every individual field but some ignorant people will be calling for privatisation of Hospitals, if i may ask if such government hospital is privatised how many of them or their family can have the money to attend to such hospital? lets use brain to comment not head, a big head doesnt determine a sharp brain please be wise

xreal:


Do you know the rigours pharmacist go through before being certified? Same goes to medical health records professionals who renew their certificates every year (either employed or not).

Relate with the physiotherapist, Radiologist and you will know how vital their role is in the hospital.

Don't let us mention nurses.

Being a medical doctor is by choice, just as being a medical laboratory scientist is.

Discrimination shouldn't be that obvious in a government established hospital.

Yes, doctors can earn more from call duty allowances, pharmacist also run call, virtually most of these professionals run one of either overtime, call, and so on. The difference can come from there and not salary scale.

Also if I am a Radiologist, let an experienced radiologist head my department and not a medical doctor.

I am sure if JOHESU keeps quiet as they had been, a medical doctor will head the works department ( if that hasn't been happening already).

xreal:


Do you know the rigours pharmacist go through before being certified? Same goes to medical health records professionals who renew their certificates every year (either employed or not).

Relate with the physiotherapist, Radiologist and you will know how vital their role is in the hospital.

Don't let us mention nurses.

Being a medical doctor is by choice, just as being a medical laboratory scientist is.

Discrimination shouldn't be that obvious in a government established hospital.

Yes, doctors can earn more from call duty allowances, pharmacist also run call, virtually most of these professionals run one of either overtime, call, and so on. The difference can come from there and not salary scale.

Also if I am a Radiologist, let an experienced radiologist head my department and not a medical doctor.

I am sure if JOHESU keeps quiet as they had been, a medical doctor will head the works department ( if that hasn't been happening already).

donald197:
Adopt YAHAYA AHMED report,or choose technocrats to go n see what obtains in UK,US ,AUSTRALIA and other developed countries. If both parties are not satisfied yet,privatize the health sector.

vitaminA:
I think anyone interested in studying medicine should at least have a degree in Anatomy, nursing, biochemistry, physiology or any other related field before being accepted into medical school.

ckmayoca:


You don't understand the issue at hand. NmA already had increment 3 times while the ministry refused to increase the health worker's. Even the university of ibadan staffs earns higher hazard allowance over the health workers. The doctors hazard allowance was currently increased also but nothing of other health workers.

tsquaure:
Dont worry Johesu . Many more docs will leave the shores of this country . I just pity the ordinary nigerians who will be left to d caprices of nurses and pharmacists.
It is only in my country nurses n pharmacists claim to know what d doctors does except for surgery. Una go dey alrighr las las
That is how one nurse almost killed during nysc because she claimed to know more that d nysc doctor . I spent more days in the hospital flushing out d drug she administered as i had a bad reaction to it .

Bidexgarl:
I'm in support of team playing and seeing other members of the medical team as other members, not inferior members. However, I don't think it is possible for Doctors to be paid the same amount as other health workers. While a friend of mine was doing his housemanship, he checked a break down of his salary and discovered that his basic salary was just a stipend; what made it the amount it was mostly his "call allowance". He was working from 8am till 4pm everyday and on days when he was on call, he worked from 8am till 12noon the next day. That doesn't exempt him from reporting to work by 8am the day after that. My believe is that Doctors earn their pay. In short, I think their pay is commensurate with the length of hours they work.
As regards the administrative issues, my opinion is that hospitals should be put under proper administrators or appropriate qualification in administrative skills should be required candidates, be it nurses, doctors, pharmacists.......
Concerning the titles, I believe every profession has it's own hierarchy and the titles at each level. So, as a Consultant is to Doctors, a CNO/SNO is to nurses, a Chief Pharmacist it to Pharmacists etc. These issues are actually simple. The solution is to have all the health professionals and health workers sit together and resolve the issues holistically.
JUST MY OPINION though.

Uchemus:
This one doesn't even know the difference between a Radiologist and a Radiographer..

Deniceone:
Kindly read through and see what JOHESU is asking for. Tell me its not fair! The difference is clear even in the johesu proposed salary.

PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE OLD COMESS AND OLD CONHESS:

COMESS 3 (which is the starting point for doctors) #260,865.58
CONHESS 7 (which is the starting point for some health workers like accountant etc) #118,765.
(difference of #142,100.00) 120% difference.

CONHESS 9 (which is another starting point for health workers eg pharmacist etc) #161,670.33.
(difference 99,195.25) 61% difference.

NOW LETS STILL COMPARE THE SALARY OF A NEWLY EMPLOYED DOCTOR ABOVE WITH A HEALTH WORKERS THAT HAVE SPENT 6 TO 9 YEARS IN SERVICE WHICH IS CONHESS 11.

CONHESS 11:#223,345.58 (difference of #37,520.00) 17% difference.

ABOVE IS FOR OLD CONMESS AND OLD CONHESS....

TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEW CONMESS AND PROPOSED CONHESS BY JOHESU, PLS SIR I WILL STILL WANT YOU TO COMPARE THIS NEW CONMESS WITH THE OLD CONHESS THAT JOHESU IS PRESENTLY RECEIVING NOW....

NEW CONMESS 3 :# 312,944.83.

PROPOSED CONHESS 7: #165,541.08
(difference of #147,403.75)
89%difference.

PROPOSED CONHESS 9: #190,227.25 (difference of #122,717.58)
65% difference.

PROPOSED CONHESS 11:
#255,184.83.
(difference of #57,760.00)
23% difference.

I WANT TO ALSO WRITE THAT OF THE ZENITH OF BOTH PROFESSION :

OLD CONMESS 7: #704,209.08
OLD CONHESS 15: #476,855.00
(DIFFERENCE #227,354.08)
48% DIFFERENCE.

NEW CONMESS 7:
#999,698.50
PROPOSED CONHESS 15:
#697,024,42.
(difference of #302,674.08)
43% Difference

now did NMA see the parity they have been singing with

I TOOK OUT MY PRECIOUS TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THIS FIGURES OUT because WHEN I AM TALKING I LIKE WORKING WITH FACT because THE TRUTH CAN'T BE HIDDEN.
#copied

Amarabae:

First of all, I am not a lab technician,
I am a graduate nurse who also spent years in the University,
It is not fair for a doctor to earn the same thing with every other health professionals, but rather we are asking for Equity and not equality.
Johesu ask for salary increment and other non salary things,
They did not say pay us the same thing you pay doctors
Thanks.

MaziOmenuko:


Like I said, i don't have qualms with JOHESU demanding for better pay; let the background of their agitation not be NMA salary. If NMA gets pay-cut tomorrow to level up wth JOHESU, will JOHESU be satisfied and call-of their strike?

Now demanding to head Medical centres is an anomaly. Stop comparing yourselves with Medical Doctors. Non-Academic Staff Union of Universities will not demand to be paid same as lecturers nor will they aspire to be VC's and head our higher institutions.

PaChukwudi44:


you know that will never happen.I am not a medical doctor but it would be grossly unfair to suggest Doctors should earn same thing as lab scientists or nurses.It is even laughable to suggest.Go on strike from now until 2028 it wont happen.It takes a lot to become a medical Doctor.If there are to nearn the same thing peope would rather chose to become lab scientists or nurses than to go through the rigours that it takes to become a medical Doctor.

Amarabae:

Whether they see other as team members or not does not matter,
What matters is Johesu getting justice.
I am happy that Nigerians are now aware of the mess in the health sector and the cause.
How one profession want to suppress other professions is shocking.

kolmart:
Permit me to make a simply analysis on this topic. I know some ignorant people will continue to say the doctors are the supreme in the hospital setting yes they may quite right and wrong but for example for those people who are used to hospital setting very well, when a patient went to hospital to seek for medical care, such patients didnt go to see doctors direct, first and foremost such patients needs to be clerk by Medical Information officer who will clerk him/her issue such patient an hospital card from their such patients will be headed to the hospital account clerk for payment after payment the nurses begin to see to his/her vital sign then from their to see the doctors if such patient is having language barrier such doctor needs the help of interpreter after consultation such patient if necessary will be referred to laboratory scientists for lab test after result such patient will be back to see the doctor after reading the result of the laboratory the doctors will prescribe a drug and the patient will take it to pharmacist to get the drugs. Now let me ask us a question, if laboratory scientists, Pharmacist and Nurses gave the doctor wrong information about such patient will the work of such doctors be successful? We are working as a team, a tree doesnt make forest, without JOHESU no Doctors and without Doctors no JOHESU we are very reliable on every individual field but some ignorant people will be calling for privatisation of Hospitals, if i may ask if such government hospital is privatised how many of them or their family can have the money to attend to such hospital? lets use brain to comment not head, a big head doesnt determine a sharp brain please be wise

chicent2k3:
Simple, vote APC out of power.

dalongjnr:

I thought u're intelligent but.... Are u saying nurses'/pharm doesn't read or are not intelligent or what? infact, there are nurses that earns more than some consultant physicians in the USA, AUSTRALIA, ETC, depending on field of specialties/qualifications

oshiiteoku:
Use cane and flog those johesu back to work,what impetus,if they want to be doctor s they should pls go to medical school,no backyard style,imagine a catechist wanting to officiate mass because u have seen it done for donkeys years,try theological school and they will understand want it means to be priest,nobody should beg johesu.