Lwandle:

We have been taught to self hate for so long it comes naturally. If for over 10 years some people still believe everything that has befallen Zimbabwe is the fault of only 1 man who just happened to manage the economy magnificently the previous 20 years then its really pointless to lock horns and debate with them.

4 Play:

Is this not the same Beaf and Afam who think the flotilla deaths were an outrage defending Robert Mugabe, the man who massacred thousands of innocents in Matabeleland? Because Mugabe has framed his desperate attempts to hang on to power in the mode of a war against western imperialism, these people have swallowed the kool aid like a bunch of suckers.

4 Play:

Is this not the same Beaf and Afam who think the flotilla deaths were an outrage defending Robert Mugabe, the man who massacred thousands of innocents in Matabeleland? Because Mugabe has framed his desperate attempts to hang on to power in the mode of a war against western imperialism, these people have swallowed the kool aid like a bunch of suckers.

Mariory:

Funny isin't it? Oh how things quickly change when Israel is not involved. Doesn't seem to me like Mugabe used proportionate force. Doesn't seem to me like MEND use proportionate force.

Mariory:

You should know hypocrisy is not topic dependant. Besides, the two topics were next to each other so it was hard not to point it out.

4 Play:

Is this not the same Beaf and Afam who think the flotilla deaths were an outrage defending Robert Mugabe, the man who massacred thousands of innocents in Matabeleland? Because Mugabe has framed his desperate attempts to hang on to power in the mode of a war against western imperialism, these people have swallowed the kool aid like a bunch of suckers.

4 Play:

Is this not the same Beaf and Afam who think the flotilla deaths were an outrage defending Robert Mugabe, the man who massacred thousands of innocents in Matabeleland? Because Mugabe has framed his desperate attempts to hang on to power in the mode of a war against western imperialism, these people have swallowed the kool aid like a bunch of suckers.

Lwandle:

I was under the impression MyJoe was a reincarnation of TUDOR but with a lil more wit about him that is why I couldnt be bothered to profer any reply because usually whatever evidence or links one posts to back up his position would never be accepted. Western propaganda in the mind of an unthinking man is GOSPEL truth to him.
We have been taught to self hate for so long it comes naturally. If for over 10 years some people still believe everything that has befallen Zimbabwe is the fault of only 1 man who just happened to manage the economy magnificently the previous 20 years then its really pointless to lock horns and debate with them.

Today even as we speak the PARAGONS of virtue are talking about amending their ZDERIA to take into account our diamonds. They want to ban all diamonds mined by government from international markets and are using the Kimberley certification process as one way of achieving their evil schemes. This is whilst RIO TINTO mined diamonds valued at over US$1,3 Billion in the first quarter of this year but of course their diamonds are whiter then white since they benefit an Australian owned multi-national.
How can diamonds coming fromn the same country have two different classifications depending on who is mining and benefitting from them? BLOOD diamonds if mined by government and clean diamonds if mined by a multi-national?

Africans we really need to wake up and bloody quick.

Tudór:

Do you mind those two blockheads? beaf is just plain retarded but as for afam, the mofo's criteria for a great leader is your ability to hate America. . . . .can you imagine the fool thinks Abacha is the best leader Nigeria ever had?

Tudór:

I see this fake zimbabwean is still here propagating the zanu-pf propaganda. keep deceiving yourself. . . . my only joy is that with each passing day, the death of that tyrant mugabe draws closer. . . .its only a matter of time before the people of zimbabwe are free from that basterd.

MyJoe:

Beaf is as clueless as his pal, Afam (who blows hot air about facts and logic without presenting ONE or refuting ONE and who unwittingly questions an interpretation given by his own pal) hence he is chasing red herrings like “food basket”, “dropping names” (as if any name was mentioned out of context) and all that. Who ever said Tsvangirai has any power? And which is it: "Zimbabwe has never stopped exporting food" or "Zimbabwe was stopped from IMF/World/West/whoever from trading"? Anyway, this has gone on enough. I only got angry and replied Afam the way I did because he is often a reasonable man in other matters and so there is no way I could have overlooked his asinine quip that I hold the fort for Downing Street and the other statements he probably picks up from the mouth Mugabe and touts around without a clue what is talking about.

MyJoe:

Beaf is as clueless as his pal, Afam (who blows hot air about facts and logic without presenting ONE or refuting ONE and who unwittingly questions an interpretation given by his own pal) hence he is chasing red herrings like “food basket”, “dropping names” (as if any name was mentioned out of context) and all that. Who ever said Tsvangirai has any power? And which is it: "Zimbabwe has never stopped exporting food" or "Zimbabwe was stopped from IMF/World/West/whoever from trading"? Anyway, this has gone on enough. I only got angry and replied Afam the way I did because he is often a reasonable man in other matters and so there is no way I could have overlooked his asinine quip that I hold the fort for Downing Street and the other statements he probably picks up from the mouth Mugabe and touts around without a clue what is talking about.

Afam:

You are sounding like a child who thinks that 1 + 1 is 13 and brags about it even when the answer is 2. Your ignorance knows no bounds whatsoever. I will not be the person to provide any thing to prove you wrong, I am happy the way you are writing rubbish all in the name of having a debate.

MyJoe:

It suits you to continue vacuously labeling what others write as "ignorant" and "rubbish" since you are clueless and have nothing to say. Anybody can throw words around, but it is another thing to say anything of substance. Nobody asked you for a debate; you were only asked to substantiate your wild claims. What your friend writes is not worth replying and I already explained why it was necessary to respond to you.

MyJoe:

^^^ Sorry about my misquote. I have corrected it. I was responding to Afam and had no intention of responding to your post. I think the mistake should have been obvious from what I wrote, but you had to jump on it!

Beaf:

Hmmmmmm! Is it just because I told you to "dust your arse and learn" that you have flown off the hook so badly?
If what you were passionately claiming wasn't "ignorant" and "rubbish" would you have invented the false claim that I have labelled your words as such? Why lie?

For some strange reason, you seem to think that the pile of abuse you left was "asking me to substantiate claims". Lord have mercy!
Abeg, go and dust your arse and learn, instead of firing impotent shots.

. . .Reminder; the topic is Zimbabwe's economy is improving. For goodness sake, even the US state dept has reported it, so why should that choke you?

Afam:

You dey mind the guy? When I refuse to engage someone on this forum based on gross ignorance some people think I am being mean.

He does not even know anything about the roles of the IMF and World bank in the Zimbabwean economic problem and yet expects me to debate issues with him. I dey craze?

MyJoe:

I think not - I won't even insinuate it. I think you just enjoy deluding yourself.

MyJoe:

^^^Suits you. Go on deluding yourself and pretending you had anything to say.

igboitalo:

people like you are our problem in africa ask your self isn't this the same mugabe they rolled out the red carpet when he was killing his people when he started fighting for his people suddenly his a dictator. my joe u are a real example of a house nigga.

igboitalo:

people like you are our problem in africa ask your self isn't this the same mugabe they rolled out the red carpet when he was killing his people when he started fighting for his people suddenly his a dictator. my joe u are a real example of a house nigga.

Tudór:

And people like Mugabe who according to you ''KILLED HIS PEOPLE'' are champions of Africa and great african statesmen?

Jeez. . . .people are indeed daft. Sorry about Afam, we knew how dense he was long ago.

igboitalo:

saddam was okay when he followed orders when he refused to do so anymore he became a dictator, gaddafi was a terrorist when he opposed them when he gave them contracts he became a friend mobuto was thier friend, babangida thier friend and mubarak also wonderful democratic people when will we open our eyes they west will do things that favour them only and again i must say it again, daft people like u are our problem in africa

Tudór:

And i repeat, people like Mugabe who according to YOU [size=30pt]KILL THIER PEOPLE[/size] are great statesmen and ''the solution'' for africa?. . . . . You are most certainly an IDIOT.