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Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 9:37am On Jul 22, 2018 |
davidnazee: Benin empire not kingdom. Anioma was part of benin empire.. But the historic Benin kingdom doesn't even extend to cover all bini speaking areas. For example Utantan was not part of Benin kingdom since it has its own king - the Ogiemien However Benin empire expanded past bini speaking areas but after the British destroyed the empire all its vassals gained independence since the land never belonged to Benin in the first place and now political authority does not have anything to do with Oba of benin So Anioma is independent from Benin, even Esan is independent from Benin Before you argue this (which I know your small mindedness would like to argue) think about Nigeria and Britain Nigeria was under the British empire but gained independence.. Hence Nigeria doesn't answer to the British, nor does the land belong to the British 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by Nobody: 12:08pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
OlaoChi:Idiot, Benin Kingdom and Benin empire refer to the same country. And it's maps are available for all to see. Just type Gallica on naira land research. And once again, ogiamen is a lying imposter, he is a mere chief pretending to be a king. Your problem is that you can' t see beyond the British empire. What you are not asking yourself is how a traditional institution gets legitimacy in this era: simple we base legitimacy on history records. Each traditional ruler in Nigeria holds legitimacy in the lands which were ruled by his title holder before the defeat by the British. This is the little thing many of you guys refuse to understand. |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by davidnazee: 2:33pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
OlaoChi: Commonwealth nations are independent of England but they still recognize the Queen as their monarch and overlord.. My point is that all those places u mentioned; Anioma, Esan are still traditionally part of Edo nation. If Nigeria breaks they will all peacefully and willingly band together to make one nation. Maybe we will have to conquer the Biafrans if they lay claim to Anioma but Anioma will stay part of Benin Empire. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by banku: 4:26pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
You guys need to stop deluding yourselves and stop putting the cart before the horse. Stop comparing Bini to world powers with well documented and obvious evidence. Usurpers are yet to produce even local evidence as local champions. They have been asked over and over again. A 2003 or so book to revise well documented history by a Yoruba Oba that felt slighted in a meeting with his brothers is not evidence. Oba Iwo will soon be used too to buttress rogue history of Yoruba. Even Oba of Lagos had to retreat when it was pointed out that his pathernal side was Alagba from Ilesha. More important, as pointed out, Bini are our brothers and sisters any day. Edo is a different matter because they are a mixture of the original inhabitants of the rain forest ie the Efa and Oru. Edo begged Bini from Ife to deliver them from their Ogiso rulers, ironically from Ife too. Nobody, not even the Oba of Bini could or can throw the most prominent and world respected authority on Bini under the bus or blackmail him. The one and only Jacob U. Egharevba. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 10:10pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
banku: The ogiso were not from Ifẹ̀... At least no still existing traditional links then or the Ogiamien to Ìfẹ̀ |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 10:11pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
davidnazee: That is like saying USA is still traditionally part of Britain Or Edo is still part of Britain You should think sometimes 1 Like |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by davidnazee: 11:41pm On Jul 22, 2018 |
OlaoChi: Guy you be mugu sha. Is USA a commonwealth nation? |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by BabaRamota1980: 12:20am On Jul 23, 2018 |
banku: That Oba tried to disrepute Dr. Egharevba by mocking that his Doctorate from University of Ibadan was a mere honorary to reward his pro-Yoruba historical account. Can you imagine...a whole Oba saying that about his own subject and historian of his courts. We should not talk of him negatively because he is still a Yoruba lineage. We will always have prodigal sons. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by BabaRamota1980: 12:22am On Jul 23, 2018 |
OlaoChi: The 1st dynasty of Ogiso Chiefdom came from Ife and installed on Edo. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 6:35am On Jul 23, 2018 |
davidnazee: You are an iidiot. Look at this fool calling his betters mugu. It is only idiocy that would make someone claim anioma are Edos If the USA is not British the anioma are not Edos simply put... Being once a vassal territory does not put USA or Anioma eternally under their former imperialist powers 1 Like |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 6:36am On Jul 23, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980: Evidence? |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by Nobody: 11:37am On Jul 23, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:You guys act like real psychopaths, how many times must the Oba tell you he is not yoruba and didn't come from your smelly Ife? You guys have real issues. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 1:38pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
prolog2: Ọba of benin never said he didn't come from Ifẹ̀. In fact during his coronation he proclaimed Oranmiyan to be the first ọba of benin You seem like a real psychopath 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by banku: 2:28pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 2:58pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
banku: Your link talks about Ogiso body parts buried in Ifè.. That's false. There were no Ogiso buried in Ifè I read through and honestly the entire article is not written out of research.. But opinions 1 Like |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by banku: 3:14pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
https://allafrica.com/stories/200405100888.html Nigeria: Heads of Former Benin Monarchs Were Actually Buried in Ile- Ife, Says Prince Isede PRINCE Michael Isede, a grand son of the last Ogiso of Benin Kingdom and deputy national chairman, Community Development Committee of Oil Producing Communities in Delta State, says heads of former Benin monarchs were buried in Ife. "The Ooni is very right in saying that Oduduwa came from heaven. Nobody can doubt it because we have it here in Benin too. The Bini people believe that God usually comes down to decide issues. What actually happened is this- the last Ogiso who was my great grand father was an autocratic ruler, he could tell Benin people that nobody should meet any woman for three months or eat for three days and nobody will dare contrevene his order. So the people were not happy with his dictatorship, they held a meeting and called the seven Uzamas to remove him. Evian was the brother to Ogodomigodo, both Oliha' sons. OlaoChi: |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 3:28pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
banku: You obviously don't know the difference between Ogiso and Oba Ọba came from Ifẹ̀. Ogiso has nothing to do with ife..at least nothing that there is evidence for |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by davidnazee: 3:41pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
banku: Banku are you really this foolish?? The last Ogiso of Benin Kingdom reigned almost a 1000 years ago, how can he be great grand father to this prince you are quoting? You are a dumb Yoruba man 2 Likes |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by banku: 4:20pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
My friend, there is nothing wrong with saying you are not aware. Dismissing well researched work of Professor Thurston Shaw on radiocarbon dating, Prof. Peter Ekeh and others that put burial of Ogiso and Oba body parts even well before the historical account Of Jacob E. by fiat is frivolous and superficial. If you can do better show us your work or authorities. This has gone beyond beer parlor discussion. This is why I ignore those that could not articulate their points but use slur and Obscene languages to cover their ignorance. OlaoChi: |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 6:55pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
banku: Again you don't know the difference between Ogiso and ọba. I'm sure the author of that article doesn't even know where the Ogisos were buried Stop claiming other people.. It's disgusting and tells a bad tale about yorubas.. The Obas are yoruba but leave the Ogiso |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by davidnazee: 7:45pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
OlaoChi: If Yorubas don’t claim Benin kingdom or our great Monarchy what else can they tout as evidence of Yoruba greatness? Edo as the greatest kingdom to come out of West Africa, we have the mightiest and most revered king, Yoruba no get nothing so they lay claim to ours. 1 Like |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 8:06pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
davidnazee: You can see i am rebuking the guy for that. Not all yorubas are insecure about their history and ancestry But you are no better. This post of yours was unnecessary and quite idiotic. First of all, Yoruba had many kingdoms.. Edo had one Yoruba had an empire in Oyo that grew larger and more effective than benin Mali, Songhai, Ghana (Wagadu), Sokoto, Kanem - bornu and even Oyo were greater west African states You should expose yourself more to African history |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by davidnazee: 8:11pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
OlaoChi: You cannot also deny that Edo has a great state too. The people that documented it as a great and mighty kingdom are not fools. It is what they saw and experienced. Benin Kingdom was greater than Oyo, confirmed. 1 Like |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by banku: 11:41pm On Jul 23, 2018 |
Stop saying what you are totally unaware of. It is share arrogance to claim what you do not know. If you are sure of your claim, back it up with authority. You do not have to agree with me. After all reasonable people can agree to disagree. But to claim you are rebuking who, especially when you have displace zero scholarship on the matter of Ogiso and Oba. Let me go further and tell you that Nupe, Ijaw, Igala share the same Oduduwa with Yoruba. They may call the same Oduduwa Adumu, Adimu. If you know the history of Ogiso and how they got to Benin and rule over the people before Oba overthrew them, you will not be so unaware. Find out about the foremost Nigeria Youth leader of those days, an Ijaw man Ernest Sissei Ikoli who Awolowo supported for leadership. You need to educate yourself, my friend. So please pocket your arrogance about rebuke unless you can come up with some authorities. As I said before, when we are out of beer parlor, we go beyond superfluous argument. Do more research and come up with authorities greater than Ade Ajayi, Peter Ekeh, Ade Obayemi and a host of others. Until then, there is no need to respond to you again. OlaoChi: Indeed, it is a shame that we have got to the point where we see one another as "claiming other people". This is where we are today. Some years ago, nobody would believe that Bini, Tapa and Yoruba would see one another as other people but that is reality today. |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by Mystiquefia: 2:43pm On Jul 25, 2018 |
[quote author=debinile post=69559457][/quote] you must be an idiot not to know that uvwie, udu and sapele local government were created from Okpe local government. and okpe happens to be part of the urhobo kingdom not itsekiri. Ekpa na!!!! |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by OlaoChi: 10:55pm On Jul 26, 2018 |
banku: banku:You should have posted a picture or a link to the works of these Professors not online articles with no evidence and no scholarly source Mind you, the evidence of any such ogiso burial would be in both Ife and Benin traditions |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by oyatz(m): 5:50pm On Jul 30, 2019 |
Not exactly correct. In the olden days, Obas didn't leave their territories and go to foreign/unknown or hostile lands. Some Obas were also warriors,they led their Armies into battles e.g Oba Esigie and Oba Ewuare the Great led Armies of Bini to battles. Ewuare installed his sons as local Kings in some of the towns conquered (including Ido-Ani in Ondo State) Alaafin Oluewu fought courageously and died on the battle field. Some Obas also made diplomatic and States visits to friendly fellow monarchs e.g the Historic pilgrimage of Owa Atakumosa of Ijeshaland to the Oba of Bini in the 18th Century, stopping over and being hosted by several towns in between Ilesha and Bini ,to which monuments were erected to commemorate this historic journey in these towns. Primusinterpares: 2 Likes |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by oyatz(m): 6:14pm On Jul 30, 2019 |
He is correct, High Chief Agbo Obaseki, the Great-grandfather of the Governor came from an Anioma village to live in the Capital city of Bini and rose through the ranks to become a Chief just like Abba Kyari from a Kanuri village relocated to Abuja and was appointed Chief of Staff to the President. tishbite41: |
Re: Oba Of Benin, Ewuare, Visits Olu Of Warri (Photos) by derbykol(f): 8:27am On Dec 22, 2020 |
tishbite41:My observation too |
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