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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Alexandre7: 4:22pm On Feb 24, 2020
Beautyaddy:


lol!...And who may that "Old White Man" be that can beat Trump?

If it's Bernie or Bloomberg?...I can't bet on that....but Biden? Most likely.

Lol...

Bloomberg doesn’t even have the coalition necessary to beat Trump.

The only thing he has going for him is the fact that he can spend unlimited amount of money.

But can Bloomberg beat Trump in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania & Michigan?
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Alexandre7: 4:27pm On Feb 24, 2020
We’re like two weeks away from Super Tuesday,

As it stands only two candidates have the Path to become the Democratic Nominee, Senator Bernie Sanders & Vice President Joe Biden.

So far Warren has proven she can’t attract minority votes, apart from Massachusetts which other states can she realistically win?

As for Pete Buttigieg, he has only been able to attract just 2% of the African American vote, no democrat can become the Nominee without significant support from Black & Brown Communities.

As for Senator Amy Klobuchar, she also has a problem of being unable to attract minority voters, apart from Minnesota which other states can she realistically win?

And to the best of my knowledge you need 1991 delegates to become the democratic nominee.
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Beautyaddy: 5:23pm On Feb 24, 2020
Alexandre7:


Warren doesn’t have the coalition necessary to beat Donald J Trump.

The Only one that has managed to assemble such coalition is Senator Bernie Sanders followed at a Distant Second by Vice President Joe Biden.


Correct!

However, my feelings is that this time around the Democrats Party really don't want Bernie to be their nominee but because of what they did to him in 2016 with Hillary they might not want to go that route again by supporting Biden over him.
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Nig4Greatness: 6:52pm On Feb 24, 2020
Beautyaddy:


Correct!

However, my feelings is that this time around the Democrats Party really don't want Bernie to be their nominee but because of what they did to him in 2016 with Hillary they might not want to go that route again by supporting Biden over him.

The establishment don't want him because he is not even a member of the party.He is independent.
If Bernie failed at the end to amaze delegate counts and Biden comes second,they would deny him and hand the tickets to Biden through the super delegate counts.
The party is actually in a fix,they didn't see this coming.

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Nig4Greatness: 6:56pm On Feb 24, 2020
Alexandre7:


For some reason you need to have Charisma & populist message to win.

Obama has it,

Trump has it,

Bernie has it,

But Warren doesn’t.

I don't like that Sanders a bit.he was responsible for Hilary lost in 2016.the moment he lost the nomination,his supporters who are majorly students and young people refused to vote in the general election.
Have you heard their slogan then.....Bernie or bust.
They have started again.they are not ready to support whoever emerges as the nominee so far it's not Bernie.

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by radautoworks: 7:27pm On Feb 24, 2020
Alexandre7:


Warren doesn’t have the coalition necessary to beat Donald J Trump.

The Only one that has managed to assemble such coalition is Senator Bernie Sanders followed at a Distant Second by Vice President Joe Biden.

If she's nominated they all go back to her
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Alexandre7: 7:36pm On Feb 24, 2020
radautoworks:

If she's nominated they all go back to her

Let me ask you this:

What’s Senator Elizabeth Warren path to become the Democratic Nominee

She placed third in Iowa, Fourth in New Hampshire & Fourth in Nevada.

Which other state can Senator Elizabeth Warren win apart from her home state of Massachusetts?

Super Tuesday states are: Alabama (AL), Arkansas (AR), California (CA), Colorado (CO), Maine (ME), Massachusetts (MA), Minnesota (MN), North Carolina (NC), Oklahoma (OK), Tennessee (TN), Texas (TX), Utah (UT), Vermont (VT), Virginia (VA), American Samoa (AS)
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Paccus: 7:43pm On Feb 24, 2020
Beautyaddy:


Exactly!

He's too extreme to the left...and his age and health might be another factor that might work against him.

I would have made a bet that Warren might beat Trump but it seems that Bernie has taken most of her supporters to his side.
Bernie is trying though... he has good plans and offer things like free Medicare, free education, Free childcare, free housing, also undocumented will have same welfare and opportunities like the documented
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Beautyaddy: 7:50pm On Feb 24, 2020
Nig4Greatness:


The establishment don't want him because he is not even a member of the party.He is independent.
If Bernie failed at the end to amaze delegate counts and Biden comes second,they would deny him and hand the tickets to Biden through the super delegate counts.
The party is actually in a fix,they didn't see this coming.

Hmmm...Are you saying that the Dems Party didn't see the possibility of Bernie rising or Biden losing supporters?

Either way, yes you're right the Dems Party are really in a fix.

They are trying so hard and careful to tread carefully this time around so that what happened in 2016 don't happen again this year and that is causing a situation where most of Bernie's voters don't end up refusing to vote for whoever the Dem Nominee ends up being if Bernie is not the Party's Nominee.
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Beautyaddy: 7:57pm On Feb 24, 2020
Paccus:

Bernie is trying though... he has good plans and offer things like free Medicare, free education, Free childcare, free housing, also undocumented will have same welfare and opportunities like the documented

How is his campaigning about giving away free stuff(Medicare, Education, Childcare, Housing) which are all just campaign slogan is he "trying"?

How are all those Free things going to be paid for?

Nothing is Free in the US. Someone or People are going to have to pay for it.

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Nig4Greatness: 9:32pm On Feb 24, 2020
Beautyaddy:


Hmmm...Are you saying that the Dems Party didn't see the possibility of Bernie rising or Biden losing supporters?

Either way, yes you're right the Dems Party are really in a fix.

They are trying so hard and careful to tread carefully this time around so that what happened in 2016 don't happen again this year and that is causing a situation where most of Bernie's voters don't end up refusing to vote for whoever the Dem Nominee ends up being if Bernie is not the Party's Nominee.


Biden was a front runner the moment he entered the race until recently.He lost ground because he was complacent relying only on his name recognition.didnt bother much about raising money or building on his base.
It's going to be tough for him in as much others like Buttigieg is still there eating into his original voters.
The party didn't envisage the field would still be as large as it is now and honestly Bernie can't win a general election as his policies statement are not realistic.
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Dremca(m): 9:37pm On Feb 24, 2020
Bernie Sanders sounds like a typical Nigerian politician that will promise voters heaven and earth just to get their votes. America is not called a capitalist nation for nothing, the super rich benefits from all these debts or is it the same rich that will pay for the free stuffs.
Beautyaddy:


How is his campaigning about giving away free stuff(Medicare, Education, Childcare, Housing) which are all just campaign slogan is he "trying"?

How are all those Free things going to be paid for?

Nothing is Free in the US. Someone or People are going to have to pay for it.

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Nig4Greatness: 9:37pm On Feb 24, 2020
Paccus:

Bernie is trying though... he has good plans and offer things like free Medicare, free education, Free childcare, free housing, also undocumented will have same welfare and opportunities like the documented

What you called good plan can't work in a society like US.you can't bring socialism to replace a society that is strictly capitalism.most of his plans are only good on papers but very unrealistic.Americans can't buy into it,reason Trump is cheering him on and want him to win the nomination.
Super Tuesday will determine how many would still remain in the race but then it may have been too little too late to catch up with Bernie delegate counts.

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by radautoworks: 10:43pm On Feb 24, 2020
Alexandre7:


Let me ask you this:

What’s Senator Elizabeth Warren path to become the Democratic Nominee

She placed third in Iowa, Fourth in New Hampshire & Fourth in Nevada.

Which other state can Senator Elizabeth Warren win apart from her home state of Massachusetts?

Super Tuesday states are: Alabama (AL), Arkansas (AR), California (CA), Colorado (CO), Maine (ME), Massachusetts (MA), Minnesota (MN), North Carolina (NC), Oklahoma (OK), Tennessee (TN), Texas (TX), Utah (UT), Vermont (VT), Virginia (VA), American Samoa (AS)

I never said she had a clear path. I said IF she was the nominee she would get the Bernie bro votes back
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by radautoworks: 10:45pm On Feb 24, 2020
Paccus:

Bernie is trying though... he has good plans and offer things like free Medicare, free education, Free childcare, free housing, also undocumented will have same welfare and opportunities like the documented

*In Nigerian parent voice*

AND WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT

Bernie has things that sound good but no real plan on how to make them happen. That's my problem with him. The emperor has no clothes.

I'd rather you make promises that are realistic. Don't just tell me what you think I want to hear.
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by radautoworks: 10:46pm On Feb 24, 2020
Nig4Greatness:


Biden was a front runner the moment he entered the race until recently.He lost ground because he was complacent relying only on his name recognition.didnt bother much about raising money or building on his base.
It's going to be tough for him in as much others like Buttigieg is still there eating into his original voters.
The party didn't envisage the field would still be as large as it is now and honestly Bernie can't win a general election as his policies statement are not realistic.
Gbam
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Alexandre7: 10:58pm On Feb 24, 2020
radautoworks:


I never said she had a clear path. I said IF she was the nominee she would get the Bernie bro votes back

Okay.

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by radautoworks: 11:01pm On Feb 24, 2020
Alexandre7:


Okay.

smiley You have no idea how rare it is to disagree amicably on this forum. Such a breath of fresh air!
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by SirWahl1: 3:56am On Feb 25, 2020
Sad to say it, who ever the Democratic Party brings, Trump will win. America will not vote a socialist in Sanders as president. If Sanders does not get the ticket, He will rock the Democratic Party.
His supporters are Bennie or Burst .

Trump will get re-elected
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by AfonjaBoston: 5:59am On Feb 25, 2020
Who are all these online political neophytes sprung on the bias liberal media?
Some of you have never voted in naija elections but wanna form Wolf Blitzer on nairaland

Republicans are crossing over to place Fidel Castro at the top of the ticket so Donald can eat like his juicy steak come November

Dumbos

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by ayo84(m): 12:50pm On Feb 25, 2020
SirWahl1:
Sad to say it, who ever the Democratic Party brings, Trump will win. America will not vote a socialist in Sanders as president. If Sanders does not get the ticket, He will rock the Democratic Party.
His supporters are Bennie or Burst .

Trump will get re-elected

Why ppl like Trump sef, they dem bin talk say d economy is in shambles

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by ayo84(m): 12:51pm On Feb 25, 2020
radautoworks:


smiley You have no idea how rare it is to disagree amicably on this forum. Such a breath of fresh air!

Bro men show us the way , we can't wait to leave this country. I no dey ready to do illegitimate come fall into one trap of person.
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by ayo84(m): 12:54pm On Feb 25, 2020
Nig4Greatness:


Biden was a front runner the moment he entered the race until recently.He lost ground because he was complacent relying only on his name recognition.didnt bother much about raising money or building on his base.
It's going to be tough for him in as much others like Buttigieg is still there eating into his original voters.
The party didn't envisage the field would still be as large as it is now and honestly Bernie can't win a general election as his policies statement are not realistic.

Biden doesn't seem like one with the Antecedents to defeat Trump. Has anyone Trump's media campaign strategy is impeccable,from even the colours of the memes and the propaganda all about Russia. The thing is all the Democrats started on the wrong footing. See how Obama emerged, strategic steps from his book launch to a series of very intelligent event. Damn wish I was on with you guys I'll give these USA foreign political lobbyists and strategists a good run for their money. I mean do you know how much you can get paid by Soros or Bloomberg for conceptualising a strategy to defeat Trump.
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Nig4Greatness: 3:31pm On Feb 25, 2020
AfonjaBoston:
Who are all these online political neophytes sprung on the bias liberal media?
Some of you have never voted in naija elections but wanna form Wolf Blitzer on nairaland

Republicans are crossing over to place Fidel Castro at the top of the ticket so Donald can eat like his juicy steak come November

Dumbos

What is this one saying??.
If you don't have any meaningful contribution to make,won't you just pass??.

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Nig4Greatness: 3:35pm On Feb 25, 2020
ayo84:


Biden doesn't seem like one with the Antecedents to defeat Trump. Has anyone Trump's media campaign strategy is impeccable,from even the colours of the memes and the propaganda all about Russia. The thing is all the Democrats started on the wrong footing. See how Obama emerged, strategic steps from his book launch to a series of very intelligent event. Damn wish I was on with you guys I'll give these USA foreign political lobbyists and strategists a good run for their money. I mean do you know how much you can get paid by Soros or Bloomberg for conceptualising a strategy to defeat Trump.


You people won't stop to amaze me...so a Nigeria based consultant want to come to the US to teach the US politicians strategies to win elections.
What are you smoking man? or should I just assume this was a careless slip of tongue.

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by ayo84(m): 7:48pm On Feb 25, 2020
Nig4Greatness:



You people won't stop to amaze me...so a Nigeria based consultant want to come to the US to teach the US politicians strategies to win elections.
What are you smoking man? or should I just assume this was a careless slip of tongue.
I don't smoke man
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Teaser4(m): 10:17am On Feb 26, 2020
ayo84:

I don't smoke man
of course you don't ...but you sound like one....go dash PDP the strategy to defeat APC first....

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Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Datguybilly97(m): 1:31pm On Feb 26, 2020
hammed71:
are youmaking same move in May. relocating through f1 or H1b
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Babyvet: 1:47pm On Mar 06, 2020
No need for argument guys , trump will be re-elected again .
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Beautyaddy: 1:30am On Mar 07, 2020
Babyvet:
No need for argument guys , trump will be re-elected again .

lol!...why do you say that? cheesy

If Bernie was likely the Dems chosen Presidential candidates then yes it's most likely Trump might be re-elected.

But as things are looking Biden is looking more likely to be the Dems preferred Presidential nominee…and as a result Trump's re-election is looking more difficult to happen.
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Teaser4(m): 10:13am On Mar 07, 2020
Beautyaddy:


lol!...why do you say that? cheesy

If Bernie was likely the Dems chosen Presidential candidates then yes it's most likely Trump might be re-elected.

But as things are looking Biden is looking more likely to be the Dems preferred Presidential nominee…and as a result Trump's re-election is looking more difficult to happen.
Biden? stay away from CNN.... it's gonna be a landslide.... no be only Biden na Bedin. please make sure you watch the debate, you'll see how Trump is gonna roast his ass. Trump will be reelected....
Re: American, US Based, And US Aspirant Derailer Thread by Nig4Greatness: 9:06pm On Mar 07, 2020
Teaser4:
Biden? stay away from CNN.... it's gonna be a landslide.... no be only Biden na Bedin. please make sure you watch the debate, you'll see how Trump is gonna roast his ass. Trump will be reelected....

Lol....the same way he roasted Hilary ass the last time.you guys overhype this guy too much as if he has anything to offer other than making jest of his opponents.
We will all be here during the general election and the result will show how much Americans love him over Biden.

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