FrostyButter:



I can't stop laughing over here... Just listen to your self, cause there a choice to do something makes any choice made justified? Cause that's your irrational conclusion here from all your long talks. So cause people have a choice to be pedophiles, the availability of that choice presented makes any alternative choice eventually arrived at rational? Cause there is a choice to kill someone makes it right? Cause there is a choice to do anything and free will to choose makes it right? Cause that's how you logic works.

You have successfully confused nature with nurture my lady. You need to know the difference, cause the example you cited is an individual who has nurtured his or her mind to a very profane twisted idea. The mind is born like a clean slate, and it's not any one's nature to be gay.

Please please and please. The question here is, is this natural? And the answer is No. If you want to take me on any argument as to the morality, science or anything pertaining to homosexuality, I'm ready to take you on anyday. But sticking to the subject at hand... You have no case. Just rest.

MissWrite:


Yes. It is choice. Anything a man DOES is his choosing. But choice is selecting between (at least two) options. So, what influences choice? How ever subtle the biases seem, choice is influenced by bias. Even if it appears random, like flipping a coin. The bias is in the flick of the thumb or the direction of the wind.

First, I'll point out that we choose actions. So you can say that having homosexual sex is a choice. And in the same way, having heterosexual sex is a choice too. Because, as you rightly said: anything a man does is his choosing.

The fact that you can accept that homosexual sex is a choice proves that there are options to select from. And why would anyone choose to do anything? First, for survival; second, because they want to (it makes them happy); third; because it is the right thing to do.

When a heterosexual person chooses to have sex with someone of the opposite sex, the choice is easy and may seem like a foregone conclusion. Because his internal desires (wants) are in sync with what is externally permitted (the right thing to do). Your want/desire is definitely of your specific nature (because not all humans are the same) while the right thing to do, is a set of practices people have decided to accept. It is not natural, it is rather how humans are desired to be NURTURED.

When a homosexual person chooses to have sex with someone of the opposite sex, the choice is harder because there is conflict. His internal desires (nature) are not in harmony with what is externally permitted. And if he chooses to go ahead with the act because it is the right thing to do, he would have compromised the second reason for doing things (happiness). And if happiness (or even the promise there of) is essential to survival, then he would lose the will to live if there is no hope of ever finding it. When a person gets to that point, they do not care about doing what is right because it threatens their existence. With their backs against the wall, it becomes more rewarding to challenge the laws.

So, yes; homosexual sex is a choice. Between nature and nurture. As is everything else.



PS: have these scientists found a straight gene? Can they actually call it a straight gene if it also exists in gay people? The bottom line is, they have been unable to explain sexual orientation, whether gay or straight.

eyeview:


I can also show you video of female cricket killing and eating its male counterpart after inter course. So by your assertion, its also natural for a woman to kill and eat a man after sex.
There is a reason why you are human and they animals. But its part of the psychological imbalance or demonic presence that I spoke about that will make a human to start using animals as yardstick for his existence. Do you see that something is wrong with you.

MissWrite:



......It's good that you can laugh. At least you got some value out of it, even if the point eluded you. But, I know it was clear enough, and anyone who's got the aptitude will get it. The rest can hopefully laugh like you, in blissful ignorance.

IamLEGEND1:
[i][b]

Human sexuality doesn't really take a definite form until you're a full-blown adult. For some people it takes even longer.

calliope:
Yeah. So natural. I'm queer and proud.

SueZuckerberg:


Shame on you!

Originalsly:

Are you saying a guy isn't sure if he is straight, bisexual or homosexual until he is a 'full blown adult'?....or even longer? Abeg....explain....and please include at what age is one considered a full blown adult. I hope you can defend your confident comment.

tintingz:
There is no contextual here, how does natural disasters favor humans? What does yawning does to us?

Natural is natural, since homosexuality is not even a threat to people, I don't see why people are having problem with them. You can hate them, that's your business but criminalizing homosexuals is something I find babaric.

Shugavee:
lol don’t tag me if u know nothing about feminism please!!! Not all feminist agree with homosexuality!! Feminism n homosexuality doesn’t go hand in hand!

WORDWORLD:
Chai FAKE FEMINIST

Shugavee:
I am a feminist against homosexuality!! Deal with it, boy bye!!

marvinsync:

first of all I don't hate homosexuals
I just think they are unnatural as in the same way u wouldn't hate a born cripple ,a blind person , or anyone else with an abnormality is the same way u shouldn't hate homosexuals cause they are (allegedly) born with it and it's not their fault but that doesn't make them natural cause they are still an abnormality

now u might say homosexuality is not a threat to people but u see I was just talking about homosexuality in reference to just people but homosexuality in general , the OP wasn't specific,there are a lot of species that homosexuality is a big threat to , so much so that it could even be called a disease cause it would threaten their existence

tintingz:
Homosexuality was illegal in the past in US because of lack of professional research and because of religious dogmas, now that we have evolve in intellects, gays are discovered not to be a threat, homosexuality is part of sexual orientation which is natural.

Recently, India just legalized homosexuals relationship.

The thing is, gays are having consensual relationship just like everyone, rape is harming fellow human, both non-homos and homos can rape, how you categorized rape and Homosexuality is something you haven't demonstrated.

Shugavee:
I am a feminist against homosexuality!! Deal with it, boy bye!!

marvinsync:



now note I'm not just talking about homosexuality in humans but homosexuality for all animals in general the op wasn't specific in his statement

now we all know the difference between primary and secondary causes , the primary cause of sex is reproduction but the secondary cause is pleasure and since humans are one of the few animals that derive pleasure from sex with do it for both reasons that's why people have sex way more than they need to but for other animals sex is strictly business


now there are natural solutions to overpopulation in an area , which is the strongest survive and feed while the poor and weak die don't forget death is natural

and u can't say the biggest threat to MANKIND is overpopulation , overpopulation can never be the cause of extinction so humanity as a whole has nothing to fear


now about homosexuality being a disease , yes it may not seem so , but since I'm talking about homosexuality in general let's look at pandas , do u know how rare pandas are and how hard it is to breed them , if pandas start to exhibit gayness do u know that would become a condition that would threaten the society of pandas hence a disease ,cause if there was some sort of remedy to dissipate the homosexuality from the pandas scientists would mass produce it and give it to them like it's a disease cause why would u wanna cure something that's natural within the pandas ? why would u wanna mess with nature? unless it's not natural and causes harm to there species

not just pandas a lot of animals are in stages where homosexuality is just not good and logical to them cause it's something that would threaten there society and possibly lead them to extinction

now u know humans are seemingly different but that shouldn't make it less natural cause whether u like it or not homosexuality is ANTI-LIFE

SueZuckerberg:


Shame on you!

Belafonte:


You are not a feminist, jor. Date me for two years, I guarantee you any and all thoughts of gender equality will permanently evaporate from your consciousness.

calliope:

Is this the best your demented skull could come up it to spike me? Stop being senseless, and get the fvck outta my mentions!

Shugavee:
u try well well

calliope:

why is this bastard son of a thousand fathers still quoting me? are you mad? or just cant comprehend simple english?

See your mouth like 'better response'.
better response kee you there!! Idiota!
Now piss off my mentions for good!! And remain pissed off in your whirl pool piss! Bastard!!

WORDWORLD:

Bro just like homosexualism that was once regarded as a PERVERSION is enjoying the dividend of DEMOCRACY today and with all kinds of scientific postulations which at this stage if we must be honest with ourselves are mere HYPOTHESIS but treated as if they are FACTS to prove that HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT AN ABNORMALITY, so shall every other sexuality still regarded as PERVERSIONS today fight for their own FREEDOM under DEMOCRACY by the fleeting of time eventually becoming a NORM. Using the same ARGUMENTS which homosexuals and supporters of homosexualism are using today as their own justifications.

Just as HETEROSEXUALS too did to justify PRE-MARITAL SEX "freedom to use our bodies as we like" leading to a SEXUAL REVOLUTION of which is very much still at play.

Thatmy clear and simple point you are and a few others are finding too difficult to understand.

THAT THE REVOLUTION IS VERY MUCH ON AND ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME!!! SO, EMBRACE THE VERY HIGH POSSIBILITY OF INCESTOUS PRACTICES, PEDOPHILIA, BEASTIALITY, NECROPHILIA AND [b]EVEN RAPE [/b]AND EVEN FAR MORE THAN RAPE BECOMING A NORM IN OUR 'INTELLECTUALLY EVOLVED WORLD'.

All that is needed is a political will and scientific theories and as much conditioning of people's mind via all kinds of media by those who choose to fight for their CHOICES. The leverage remains the very article of faith in DEMOCRACY called 'RIGHTS', 'FREEDOM'!

Let me give you an hint as to how RAPE can become very less than a CRIME and very much embraced at least at the moment as a MENTAL DISORDER like homosexualism was once regarded as a mental disorder in the past by scientist.

THEFT WAS REGARED SOLELY AS A CRIME. UNTIL POSTULATIONS BY SCIENTIST IN RECENT YEARS. COMING UP WITH A NAME, 'KLEPTOMANIA'.

'KLEPTOMANIA' is classified in psychiatry as IMPULSE CONTROL DISORDER, which creates an inability to refrain from the URGE to STEAL.

With this, manifestation and an agreement by law. The Perception of theft has taken a different twist in 'DEVELOPED COUNTRIES'. And with the FACT that crimes rate as tagged as stealing did rise because one could hide under this mental disorder.

The very point am making here is the diagnosis called IMPLUSE CONTROL DISORDER not necessarily THEFT.

Rapist too by the fleeting of time could enjoy such 'SHIELD' for a while tagging them as people who have NO CONTROL OVER THEIR IMPULSE, until after perhaps a hundred years our 'INTELLECT' would have EVOLVED to making it a NORMALITY and not a MENTAL DISORDER or A CRIME.



FACT IS, SEXUAL ATTRACTION AND URGES IS ABOUT IMPULSES.

Which is controlled by societial construction called culture, placing laws as restrictions as to conform us to a certain norm.

If by our biological instinct, anytime we become ho'rny all that there will be is to satisfy that urge like ANIMALS DO but culture has placed barriers, seeking for SELF CONTROL in a defined spectrum.

The spectrum used to be solely between a man and a woman in a union called MARRIAGE. That was the LEGITIMACY. Now it has given way for a man and a man, a woman and a woman while not seeing so as ILLOGICAL an IMPULSE CONTROL DISORDER. So, shall it give way for a father and his daughter, a Shepard and his sheep, the living and the dead.........even RAPE.

EMBRACE OUR REALITY! THAT IS MY POINT YOU ARE FINDING DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.

THE REVOLUTION IS VERY MUCH ON. NOTHING IS STOPPING THIS REVOLUTION EXCEPT PERHAPS A CATACLYSM I hope you are able to understand me now.

Cc: iamlegend1

Walamu:
The Left's Push For Pedophile Acceptance


Anyone pushing for homosexuality just want to rape children. That's how they became homosexual and like most demon possessed people they want to spread their demons. This is how come they say its natural. All those who are know they were raped and that's all a cover up. There is no Gay Gene. In order for homosexuality to be natural it must be in the genes and it isn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q6pDGNQw3I

tintingz:
Homosexuality, heterosexuality are humans with thier different behaviors, it doesn't stop any of the sexual orientation being natural.

Any relationship that's consensual shouldn't be a problem.


Do you prefer the ancient practice where non-virgins, fornicators are stone to death?


Incest is a long term practice although not legalized in some countries, pedophilia is now a crime in most countries, although some culture, Religion still practice it.

Rape cannot be legalized, it's a behavior of physically hurting a fellow human, how can that be legalized? Are you reasoning at all?

You think science is a study to promote nonsensical things?

What kind of nonsense, illogical crap is this?

So assuming rape and stealing is legalized because of some disorder, how would be when you and everyone are affected?

If a dangerous action is an act of mental disorder or not then such person should be locked somewhere, they are threats to the society.

calliope:
Yeah. So natural. I'm queer and proud.

marvinsync:



lol cancer is hereditary , Is ur father gay?

and how do u define natural?

something that u can't change? , something that ur born with ?
what exactly ? cause there are diseases that by those definitions can be called NATURAL


I define natural as something that has to do with nature

the natural order of life

as in , in life there is reproduction in order for species to continue to exist , animals , plants reproduce , and as such they have reproductive organs , but when something occurs that goes against the creation of life hence reproduction such as homosexuality hence I call it UNNATURAL