uche393:
Pls , How many cement bags
Can one plot carry Maximum on a cucumber farm ?

the answer is in the thread,read it carefully and you will find were sack farm has been analysed.

okoroemeka:
the answer is in the thread,read it carefully and you will find were sack farm has been analysed.

thanks

okoroemeka:
cucumbers are fast maturing crops,we have done a Murano farm that was harvested at 38 days,cukes will use small piece of land to give good financial return,it's fast maturing but dies equally faster.pepper on the other hand needs bigger size of land to give good financial return,it's slow to maturity 70-90 days,but it will be harvested for a longer period and it's more easier to manage than cucumbers,if I was given a choice between the two,I will still choose the two of them,pepper will be for long term projects,while cucumbers will be quick money spinner to support the pepper.

Thanks boss. How many bags is obtainable from 3000 stands every four days??

tpben:


Thanks boss. How many bags is obtainable from 3000 stands every four days??

of which crop??

okoroemeka:
cucumbers are fast maturing crops,we have done a Murano farm that was harvested at 38 days,cukes will use small piece of land to give good financial return,it's fast maturing but dies equally faster.pepper on the other hand needs bigger size of land to give good financial return,it's slow to maturity 70-90 days,but it will be harvested for a longer period and it's more easier to manage than cucumbers,if I was given a choice between the two,I will still choose the two of them,pepper will be for long term projects,while cucumbers will be quick money spinner to support the pepper.

what of pepper vs tomato

raoladngr:
what of pepper vs tomato

we have not done tomatoes before but I don't think it can yield as long as a good pepper variety,I stand to be corrected but I don't think tomatoes can push money better than pepper, even tomatoes management is on another level,it's disease control is strictly prevention,if disease enter tomato farm it will not be funny and most of the time it cannot be reversed.but peppers on the other hand is flexible and more stubborn against disease and a good fungicide application will clear most problems,there's a reason why a basket of tomatoes is #30,000k during the wettest period of the year,it's because of the difficulty in planting and managing it, commercial tomatoes farming is for the expert veggies farmers,it's not easy to grow and manage like pepper,there's an old thread on tomato farming by madam Jethro,if u read that her tomato adventure,you will agree with me that tomatoes are best left for the seriously committed farmers.

okoroemeka:
of which crop??

Pepper sir

tpben:


Pepper sir

if it's hybrid pepper avenir F1,I will use this cultivar as a template because we have farmed , harvested and kept records of the proceed,3000 pepper will take 4 plots of land and at normal production will see 15-20 bags of vital feed bag(25 kg) every 4-5 days,for me harvesting the ripe fruits is the hardest work in pepper ,we are selling a 25kg bag 6-7,000k now pepper is still scarce.if you have a well managed healthy 3000 hybrid pepper crops you will raking in more than #100,000k every week minus expenses.and it can continue to yield for 4-5 months commercial production.

okoroemeka:
if it's hybrid pepper avenir F1,I will use this cultivar as a template because we have farmed , harvested and kept records of the proceed,3000 pepper will take 4 plots of land and at normal production will see 15-20 bags of vital feed bag(25 kg) every 4-5 days,for me harvesting the ripe fruits is the hardest work in pepper ,we are selling a 25kg bag 6-7,000k now pepper is still scarce.if you have a well managed healthy 3000 hybrid pepper crops you will raking in more than #100,000k every week minus expenses.and it can continue to yield for 4-5 months commercial production.

Thank you sir. But that harvesting part ee

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okoroemeka:
if it's hybrid pepper avenir F1,I will use this cultivar as a template because we have farmed , harvested and kept records of the proceed,3000 pepper will take 4 plots of land and at normal production will see 15-20 bags of vital feed bag(25 kg) every 4-5 days,for me harvesting the ripe fruits is the hardest work in pepper ,we are selling a 25kg bag 6-7,000k now pepper is still scarce.if you have a well managed healthy 3000 hybrid pepper crops you will raking in more than #100,000k every week minus expenses.and it can continue to yield for 4-5 months commercial production.

also what about hot pepper vs bell pepper

raoladngr:
also what about hot pepper vs bell pepper

Hot pepper will always beat bell peppers due to large market demand. Bell pepper has a very limited use and demand. Demand defines profitability. I think bell peppers are disease prone too compared to hot pepper.

tpben:


Thank you sir. But that harvesting part ee

I travelled and my manager also travelled for a burial and we Left our pepper farm for 6 days,the sight that we met was a sea of red colour,we got more external labourers and harvested pepper from morning till evening,we confessed that day that Jesus is Lord.

raoladngr:
also what about hot pepper vs bell pepper

pls leave bell pepper it is not for beginning farmers,it's very sensitive like tomatoes,it will not take any prisoners any nonsense the farm is gone to diseases,best grown in covered green/net house or during dry season.

tpben:


Hot pepper will always beat bell peppers due to large market demand. Bell pepper has a very limited use and demand. Demand defines profitability. I think bell peppers are disease prone too compared to hot pepper.

it's not that you think,bell peppers are easily prone to diseases,they grow faster than hot peppers but if rain is touching the leafs it's a big problem, bacterial leaf spot,frogeye and other foliar disease caused by excess dampness will follow.its so sensitive to bacterial issues that I will not advice any farmer in an area with high humidity to even bother trying it.

okoroemeka:
it's not that you think,bell peppers are easily prone to diseases,they grow faster than hot peppers but if rain is touching the leafs it's a big problem, bacterial leaf spot,frogeye and other foliar disease caused by excess dampness will follow.its so sensitive to bacterial issues that I will not advice any farmer in an area with high humidity to even bother trying it.

thanks for your advice,

(1.) Can pepper strive well on swampy area (2.) can it do well on sandy soil

raoladngr:
(1.) Can pepper strive well on swampy area
(2.) can it do well on sandy soil

those two soil types are the worst type in veggies farming,Sandy soil can be managed with excess manure application and fertilizer,but a swampy soil is a big no.

My brother from my little experience, I still prefer tomato to cucumber. There profitability its of same league too. You make average of 75 naira per stand for cucumber. Depend on yield you can make average of 75 to 150# per plant on tomato.
Key word for tomatoes: good hybrid seed, raised bed, pruning, staking, fungicide, insecticide and manure.
Tomato its not that stressful to me as cucumber, Shalom.

okoroemeka:
we have not done tomatoes before but I don't think it can yield as long as a good pepper variety,I stand to be corrected but I don't think tomatoes can push money better than pepper, even tomatoes management is on another level,it's disease control is strictly prevention,if disease enter tomato farm it will not be funny and most of the time it cannot be reversed.but peppers on the other hand is flexible and more stubborn against disease and a good fungicide application will clear most problems,there's a reason why a basket of tomatoes is #30,000k during the wettest period of the year,it's because of the difficulty in planting and managing it, commercial tomatoes farming is for the expert veggies farmers,it's not easy to grow and manage like pepper,there's an old thread on tomato farming by madam Jethro,if u read that her tomato adventure,you will agree with me that tomatoes are best left for the seriously committed farmers.

tpben:


Hot pepper will always beat bell peppers due to large market demand. Bell pepper has a very limited use and demand. Demand defines profitability. I think bell peppers are disease prone too compared to hot pepper.

but bell pepper will make sense for people that have limited land space.

FMCASH:
My brother from my little experience, I still prefer tomato to cucumber. There profitability its of same league too. You make average of 75 naira per stand for cucumber. Depend on yield you can make average of 75 to 150# per plant on tomato.
Key word for tomatoes: good hybrid seed, raised bed, pruning, staking, fungicide, insecticide and manure.
Tomato its not that stressful to me as cucumber, Shalom.

the comparison is between tomatoes and pepper,I don't think there's any tomato variety that can compare or surpass the financial return one on one to an avenir pepper.

okoroemeka:
the comparison is between tomatoes and pepper,I don't think there's any tomato variety that can compare or surpass the financial return one on one to an avenir pepper.

how much did you make per stand from one avenir stand.

FMCASH:
how much did you make per stand from one avenir stand.

maybe your calculations can be wrong how can a tomato plant produce #75-150 naira worth of tomatoes through it's life span,its too small,I think it should be higher than that,i can show you now a pepper plant I personally harvested that yielded half painter yesterday,mind you full painter of fresh pepper is sold #1300 naria,so that one harvest is roughly #600 naira from one pepper plant,we will harvest again Wednesday and I will keep accurate weight and average yield per plant and check what's the price in the market ,it could be impossible to keep the whole record of a pepper farm because they last so long,you can get tried of keeping record.

okoroemeka:
I travelled and my manager also travelled for a burial and we Left our pepper farm for 6 days,the sight that we met was a sea of red colour,we got more external labourers and harvested pepper from morning till evening,we confessed that day that Jesus is Lord.

please how many plots of land did you use in planting this your pepper?

The reason i dislike pepper is the harvesting part whereby you start scratching and itching like a mad person.

But i dont really know how you guys harvest yours over there.

okoroemeka:
maybe your calculations can be wrong how can a tomato plant produce #75-150 naira worth of tomatoes through it's life span,its too small,I think it should be higher than that,i can show you now a pepper plant I personally harvested that yielded half painter yesterday,mind you full painter of fresh pepper is sold #1300 naria,so that one harvest is roughly #600 naira from one pepper plant,we will harvest again Wednesday and I will keep accurate weight and average yield per plant and check what's the price in the market ,it could be impossible to keep the whole record of a pepper farm because they last so long,you can get tried of keeping record.

i think you right because on my own pepper farm though it is local breed, on a plant i harvested and sold for #250 and the fruits is still remain on that plant that not yet ripe,

okoroemeka:
maybe your calculations can be wrong how can a tomato plant produce #75-150 naira worth of tomatoes through it's life span,its too small,I think it should be higher than that,i can show you now a pepper plant I personally harvested that yielded half painter yesterday,mind you full painter of fresh pepper is sold #1300 naria,so that one harvest is roughly #600 naira from one pepper plant,we will harvest again Wednesday and I will keep accurate weight and average yield per plant and check what's the price in the market ,it could be impossible to keep the whole record of a pepper farm because they last so long,you can get tried of keeping record.

How do you plan irrigating this dry season?

okoroemeka:
maybe your calculations can be wrong how can a tomato plant produce #75-150 naira worth of tomatoes through it's life span,its too small,I think it should be higher than that,i can show you now a pepper plant I personally harvested that yielded half painter yesterday,mind you full painter of fresh pepper is sold #1300 naria,so that one harvest is roughly #600 naira from one pepper plant,we will harvest again Wednesday and I will keep accurate weight and average yield per plant and check what's the price in the market ,it could be impossible to keep the whole record of a pepper farm because they last so long,you can get tried of keeping record.

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okoroemeka:
maybe your calculations can be wrong how can a tomato plant produce #75-150 naira worth of tomatoes through it's life span,its too small,I think it should be higher than that,i can show you now a pepper plant I personally harvested that yielded half painter yesterday,mind you full painter of fresh pepper is sold #1300 naria,so that one harvest is roughly #600 naira from one pepper plant,we will harvest again Wednesday and I will keep accurate weight and average yield per plant and check what's the price in the market ,it could be impossible to keep the whole record of a pepper farm because they last so long,you can get tried of keeping record.

150# per stand its not a joke in tomato farming, its like saying you making 1.5M per acre. 10,000 plants *#150

Financial record keeping is very important per plant or meter square.

You can't compare south south and east market with south west biko.

If I may ask how much did you make per stand from cucumber.

Its only few experience cucumber farmer that can #80 per stand. If you can achieve 120k per can, that means you make #80 per stand if you have 1500 surviving plant from 1750 Seed.

FMCASH:


150# per stand its not a joke in tomato farming, its like saying you making 1.5M per acre. 10,000 plants *#150

Financial record keeping is very important per plant or meter square.

You can't compare south south and east market with south west biko.

If I may ask how much did you make per stand from cucumber.

okoroemeka:
no need testing avenir just plant it,less trouble and more resistance to disease than tomato

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Hello Okoroemeka, pls how do you fertilize your peppers and what spacing do you used? Have u ever used rainguns with peppers? Thanks.

okoroemeka:
you need a original copper fungicide to control that,that's also rainy season problems

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Thanks man. I used burgundy's mixture, saaf, mancozeb and hexaconazole and intensive pruning of diseased leaves. It is now minimal. Thanks.

Functionoftime:

Cukes are normally spaced 60cm apart?

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Yes, from the recommendation i see in Cu 999 pack. Closer spacing is also possible but avoid it during the rainy season because of disease issues. I also think that closer spacing is not good if there is heavy pest infestation, esp pests like whiteflies which are very difficult to control.