abbey621:


Nigeria is a shitty nation because of corrupt, greedy leaders. You can continue touting education as the number one priority but we've had a Ph.D. holder fail just as much as an illiterate. If you can't defend this then keep shut!

abdulwastecx:


Corruption is not the problem but ability to build a nation, institution, and economy that will solve the problem of the populace. At the top of my head, I can list 10 more pressing issues than the corruption that you all like to talk about.

Throughout the 58 years of Nigeria existence as an independent nation, we have had the misfortune of been ruled for a majority of this time by clueless people due to the military intervention. We have had leaders that had squandered a majority of our oil wealth to gross incompetence, fail to develop any meaningful infrastructure and diversify the economy.

Most far east Asian nation like South Korea and Taiwan were able to develop because they have competent people in place direct the affairs of the nation. Read about the positive corruption of southeast Asia

abbey621:


Ideal condition? Define ideal? What we have is reality and experience, save fantasy for your fellow daydreamers! The last time I checked there is no one principle of management, we have many management principles so what are you talking about? I think you've chosen the wrong person to discuss principles of management with....lol

Polchiz:


Why do you think a hiring manager would demand that a candidate must have certain educational qualification with 15 years experience to stand the chance of being hired as a manager?

abbey621:


Another person comparing apples with oranges...lol. By you own admission, you stated past leaders squandered majority of our oil wealth, they failed to develop any meaningful infrastructure. Do you think they didn't know how to do things right? Do you think many of them did not travel abroad and see how things were done? They chose not to! This is the corruption I'm talking about when you use funds meant to develop the economy for private gains, the result is extreme poverty and an economy in total decay. I'm glad you used South Korea as an example, you might want to google how it sentenced its ex-presidents to prison for corruption. Google it and tell me how corruption is not a problem in Nigeria.

abbey621:


Are you saying all managerial jobs require more than a decade of experience? I must be very lucky then...lol

abdulwastecx:


I don't need to Google South Korea, I have done an extensive research on all the so-called Asia tigers. SK never started off as a developed country with the institution and know how to prosecute and sentence a former president to jail. In fact, it was very poor and corrupt in the 60s. Most of the work was done in the 70s, 80s to build this institution and industrialized the nation through controlled state enterprise, most of these industries were owned by the ruling elite, at this time corruption was still rife but a majority of the stolen money was reinvested back into the local economy, the reason for my earlier comment about negative and positive corruption.

Institution to prosecute corrupt politicians just don't come overnight, you have to build an environment, economy and society that will build an institution and you need a highly qualified individual to pull this off not some ex-military general that got everything in life through quota system

Polchiz:

Also, try and find out why
1. All vice chacellors in Nigeria are seasoned professors.

2. You cannot lecture B.Sc students if you don't have at least an M. Sc

PassingShot:
OP lacks comprehension ability.

The memo simply said "no credentials were required to be submitted" by then. It didn't say "Buhari didn't submit his credentials despite the need to do so".

Una no get brain aswear.

*Modified*
I knew this will make fp for obvious reasons.

To the children of hate, anger and frustration (CHAF), this memo only confirms what we have all known long ago - that PMB indeed attended US War College. You can take sniper if you guys like after this confirmation.

Bunch of educated illiterates.

PassingShot:
OP lacks comprehension ability.

The memo simply said "no credentials were required to be submitted" by then. It didn't say "Buhari didn't submit his credentials despite the need to do so".

Una no get brain aswear.

*Modified*
I knew this will make fp for obvious reasons.

To the children of hate, anger and frustration (CHAF), this memo only confirms what we have all known long ago - that PMB indeed attended US War College. You can take sniper if you guys like after this confirmation.

Bunch of educated illiterates.

IbrahimDamola:
Bad news for our dumbohari zombirudeens.

Dem go shout 'oh Allah,abeg when this buhari fake certificate wahala go die sef?'

timidnsukka:
This man is the greatest fraud in the history of the world

PassingShot:
OP lacks comprehension ability.

The memo simply said "no credentials were required to be submitted" by then. It didn't say "Buhari didn't submit his credentials despite the need to do so".

Una no get brain aswear.

*Modified*
I knew this will make fp for obvious reasons.

To the children of hate, anger and frustration (CHAF), this memo only confirms what we have all known long ago - that PMB indeed attended US War College. You can take sniper if you guys like after this confirmation.

Bunch of educated illiterates.

wolexy14:
but wait ooo guys .....come next year if buhari come win wetin nairalanders go DO?I JUST HOPE NO BE SUCIDE OOOOO. Abeg guys no kill una sef ooo

abbey621:


It is that way in the educational sector all over the world but when you look at other fields it drastically differs. You don't need to have M.Sc before you can become a manager, you don't need an M.SC before you can become a CEO or CFO. In fact I know many people with over 15 to 20 years of experience and just a Bachelors degree and they ended up in middle and top managerial positions. Like I said earlier stop comparing apples and oranges.

abbey621:


Cry for wetin? Just trying to educate you on how it works here in the U.S....lol

Joevics:


Ode, this changes everything. You guys have been running your mouths on how Buhari couldn't have gone to the War college without waec.

I put it to you that, Buhari could only attend yhe war college because that was the only course that doesn't require any credentials.

Lol, so the institution just started giving out Msc in 2000, yet Zombies are claiming Buhari has an Msc.

Chai Zombies.

Ovamboland:


Half knowledge is not good, the Constitution recognize courses like the MSS as qualifications to run for presidency. Read up the relevant sections if you care

PassingShot:
OP lacks comprehension ability.

The memo simply said "no credentials were required to be submitted" by then. It didn't say "Buhari didn't submit his credentials despite the need to do so".

Una no get brain aswear.

*Modified*
I knew this will make fp for obvious reasons.

To the children of hate, anger and frustration (CHAF), this memo only confirms what we have all known long ago - that PMB indeed attended US War College. You can take sniper if you guys like after this confirmation.

Bunch of educated illiterates.

godliman:
I think there is a mix up. Its like you didn't quite comprehend what I wrote or may be I framed it in such a way that makes for misunderstanding. I spoke of him going home to daura, not dying pls. Who am I to wish someone dead. I am simply saying we shldnt suffer until buhari dies, lets send him back to daura.

princfred:
Without one you cant be. So those studing management courses are doing it for fun abi?
....Because education is a prerequisite for high level management of men and resources. And if they struggle at it, what then will become of some dullard?

...... because it takes education to be one and without it one can't be. Guy your education nay schooling (cause you went to school but you are not educated so still an illiterate) was a waste.

Why are you getting it upside down?

BluntBoy:


You are surely a dunce if you can't tell the difference between certificate and education. The argument here is certificate, not education. Anyone can buy a certificate. There are MBA graduates who cannot run a small shop and yet illiterate Hausas are running their shops well and efficiently. Now, let me educate you further.

Tell me, what formal education did Abraham Lincoln have? Yet he trained himself to be a lawyer and he is still regarded as America's greatest president.

What formal education did Leon Trotsky have? Yet he was a prolific writer and unforgettable revolutionary. How many English graduates with WAEC certificates and a English degree can even compose a brief application letter?


Regarding your surgeon analogy, it is laughable. There are courses where life experiences are much needed than mere certificate. You can be a great businessman without getting a degree in business management. Go to Alaba or Aba and you will see fine businessmen who have never been to primary school. Many of them are able to control their businesses using life experiences and not certificates. Possessing an MBA is not even enough to turn you into a great businessman. It is the same in politics. That you have a degree in political science does not mean you will make a great politician.

However, to be a surgeon, life experience is not enough. You need formal education and a certification.

princfred:
Are you too slow to know the essence of certificate to education? What is lost on you is the knowledge that their are otherbsituation where life experience alone is not enough. Ofcourse Buhari can with his life experience run a kiosk successfully but does that translate into him being capable to run a country?


How many illiterates in comparism can?

How can you be soo mentally convoluted to be hyping exceptions against the rule. For every person you mention who did this or that without education i can mention a thousand who did with the help of their education.
Why did you spend your energy,time and money to get formal education knowing its useless? And also willing to do same for your children. So you think running a country is not as herculean and menally tasking/daunting as doing surgery? So you cant allow anyone without the right level of education and ptoven competence come near you bit its ok for such to be a president? Then what happened to the other questions i asked?

BluntBoy:


Bro, you are so confused.

You keep on using words like "illiterates", "education" and "certificate" without understanding their meanings.

So because I mentioned a few people, you think they are mere exceptions to the rule. Go to Google and read about American presidents (aside Abraham Lincoln) who had no formal education.

Browse about politicians and businessmen who had no formal education but were highly successful. One of them is Mary Kay.

What formal education did Bernard Shaw have and yet he won a Nobel Prize in Literature for his wonderful plays and he is regarded highly in political science and sociology.

Tell me, how can there be so many exceptions to a rule?

Now to the highlighted part of your post, can you prove that Buhari does not have the right level of education to govern a country?

The man has served in many capacities, as military governor, minister and head of state. He has taken courses within and outside the country. So, tell me what level of education do you need again? Or perhaps, like many uninformed Nigerians, you are so fixated with certificates that you don't consider job experience as education.

princfred:
Go there and read about the ones who do have formal certs especially in the latest century not only in America then me the exceptional case. Also how many of your politicians trained themselves to be lawyer like Abraham Lincoln ? Is English not the language of Shaw? Because he fid it can an aboki do that too without formal education ? You do not understand the peculiarities of your own situation you want to copy .

BluntBoy:


Salkida, the journalist whom Boko Haram trust a lot has only primary school cert. I am sure he writes better English than you.

He is not an English man like Shaw.

Look for another excuse, my friend.

princfred:
Since your education is a waste as you don't value don't send your children to school lest it becomes a waste as well. Let them be like Sakida instead since thats the rule.

BluntBoy:


That is not the point of this argument.

The point is that possessing a WAEC certificate is not equivalent to being competent to run a country.

princfred:
The point is you don't win noble laureate as an illitrate being a Nigerian because a white did it and even at the was an exception not the rule.
The president of advanced countries for centuries usually have more academically cert than WAEC and you want to achieve what they achieved with dullards. That speaks more of you being one.

IbrahimDamola:
Bad news for our dumbohari zombirudeens.

Dem go shout 'oh Allah,abeg when this buhari fake certificate wahala go die sef?'