I remembered when a girl said, i know that you are good academically but are you intelligent as well. Speaking fluent english does not measure the level of intelligency.

I think that this topic would have been interesting if it was about languages generally, not English specifically.

It is a sign of intelligence to learn & master more than one language. For instance, it is generally agreed that learning up to three distinct languages is achieved through intelligence

People who possess the ability to translate Arabic into local content have proven intelligent how much more the super language called English.

thebosstrevor:


articulation is not also a measure of intelligence

to be articulate means you have a good verbal ability and communication skills:there isnt much correlation between articulation and intelligence there are many people who are articulate when speaking but are stupid, naive and short-sighted.

I agree with you.

MissRaine69:

Being able to speak English is NOT a measure of intelligence. There are whole countries were English is not spoken at all and they have space programmes and very intelligent beings there. Thinking it is a measure of intelligence is a throw back to a colonial past that made us subservient to our own capabilities.

I agree with you within the context you mentioned. But inability to speak a language to atleast an average degree even when one has been taught the language is a sign that one is dull. English is taught in Nigerian schools from primary to secondary. So if a person has gone to primary and secondary school and has been taught English language adequately and still cannot speak it well to a reasonable degree then he is not intelligent.


After all learning a new language is linked to level of intelligence.

StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.

How did she graduate if English language was used as as a means communication in testing her ability in her field of study

TonyeBarcanista:

Were you taught tenses, grammar, comprehension, writing etc in your native language? NO

Was your organisation education done in your native language? NO

Is your native language the language of business in Nigeria? NO

So having terrible command of the English language is a pointer that the person isn't intelligent.

Tenses, grammar, comprehensions were taught in native language yes! And the only reason English was adopted in Nigeria as the lingua Franca is cuz of the diversity in language. Not because English was a measure of intelligence. There are rich successful intelligent people who don’t understand English. Scientists, innovators, artiste genius etc. English is any other language like Korean, Yoruba, Hindu so on

If you however claim that learning and mastering a new language is a measure of intelligence, that’d be understandable

MissRaine69:

Being able to speak English is NOT a measure of intelligence. There are whole countries were English is not spoken at all and they have space programmes and very intelligent beings there. Thinking it is a measure of intelligence is a throw back to a colonial past that made us subservient to our own capabilities.

I love this.

Seeing a lot of Messages about how there are a lot of countries that don't speak English nd does it mean they are dumb..What kinda argument is that? The Op is clearly referring to Nigeria where English is the Official Language.. You are not born with a language, it is learnt. So Speaking English as a Nigerian in a Country where English is the Official Language simply means you Learnt it. If u are Nigerian nd you went to primary nd secondary school, you should be able to speak and write in English. It simply means you Learnt in school. And being Capable of learning is Intelligence

StylesX:
You don't understand me dear, i am the one disagreeing with the notion, i told her English is a measure of intelligence but she is disagreeing, maybe she can't speak English too.

English is not measure of intelligence, what of people that speaks Spanish are they not intelligent? Speaking a language is different from being intelligent. Let's do away with this indomie mentality.

StylesX:
You don't understand me dear, i am the one disagreeing with the notion, i told her English is a measure of intelligence but she is disagreeing, maybe she can't speak English too.

No English is not a measure of one's intelligence the moniker Luvswollenpussy said it all

There are four types of intelligence. Emotional, Spiritual, Academics and Financial intelligence.
Simply put: English is not a measure of intelligence.
The most advanced countries of this world speak in their mother's tougue. RUSSIA, JAPAN, CHINA, SPAIN, ITALY, FRANCE, GERMANY, ENGLAND.
English is just a means of communication.

What constitutes intelligence is ability to think critically, make quick and defensible decisions and outwit others in moves at social places. Sound and critical planning is also an aspect of intelligence. English is just a language aimed at improving communication in across nations of the world. Hence, barriers have been broken and development achieved even without knowledge and admittance of its monopoly across some countries in the world. I rather advise an igbo man learn either two other languages either hausa and yoruba and same for the hausa and yoruba man whilst having liberal knowledge of english than just knowing english to the extent of neglecting his own tribal language. English is just a language meant to improve communication across the world and not a measure of intelligence. Build skills and hone ideas and thoughts that sharpen your i.q to improve your intelligence level.

I am in an agricultural online group with Indians. They type "broken bottle" English. I was surprise that none of them were correcting the other English.

If were Nigerians we would be using queen's English to pass information that worth nothing.

spyg1:
English is not measure of intelligence, what of people that speaks Spanish are they not intelligent? Speaking a language is different from being intelligent. Let's do away with this indomie mentality.

If your official language is Spanish then you should be able to speak it.. Simple.. You know what the Op means but u guys just twisting his words..

By definition intelligence is the capacity of mind, especially to understand principles, truths, facts or meanings, acquire knowledge, and apply it to practice; the ability to learn and comprehend.
When a fellow can correctly apply the knowledge he acquires through English , the person can be termed intelligent and vice versa.
For someone who is taught with English language, it could be a measure of intelligence.

aaronson:
Most people say English isnt a measurement of intelligence, well that's their opinion.

ENGLISH is a language and cannot be proxy for measuring IQ.
so if i read and write in chinese and cannot speak english, that means im not intelligent?

Not limited to English language.

For the fact that you were taught with the lingua franca, you should be able to communicate and write in that language.

Eg A citizen of France, Cameroun should be able to communicate in French.
Also a China citizen should be able to speak mandarin....

martineverest:
Nigerian mentality.. especially those with low self esteem.

Chinese,Indians,most Europeans don't speak English and they are highly intelligent

Is it that they don't use English as their official language or that they don't speak it? You LIE! A lot of Asians and Europeans speak impeccable English..English is taught in their schools too..

StylesX:
I saw what a corper posted on fb today and i posted it on my status, so some aggressive girl picked offense and started saying many things, English is not a measure of intelligence is all i could pick from all she said, and i decided to bring the argument here, contributions please.

Fluency in English is not a measure of intelligence but it a means of expressing the level of our intelligence, I then would say it's mutually exclusive

Even Donald trump and most successful business men and scientists can't speak English language fluently

Biglittlelois:



Since you think speaking English language is a form of mental slavery from the whites, kindly suggest to FG to let everyone speak and learn in their different native language, we'll then see how all of us can communicate with each other, dont bring religion here

Swahili will be better off.

thebosstrevor:


another colonised person

In many places in nigeria businesses are done in local languages, igbo, youruba or hausa

even teaching is done in local languages, english is just a secondary language

teaching is done in local language?

Such a school should be closed.

MissRaine69:

Being able to speak English is NOT a measure of intelligence. There are whole countries were English is not spoken at all and they have space programmes and very intelligent beings there. Thinking it is a measure of intelligence is a throw back to a colonial past that made us subservient to our own capabilities.

"English" is a metaphor for language here. The ability to acquire good spoken AND WRITTEN language skills is a mark of intelligence. But it only measures just one kind of intelligence - if you buy the theory of multiple intelligences.

psalmmark:

For someone who is taught with English language, it could be a measure of intelligence.

u r wrong.
i have seen very intelligent guys who attended pry n sec sch in the villages and their english teachers didnt do a gud job, but these guys come to the city to win awards from exams they wrote wit kids that were taught by good English teachers.
this is my story

JuanDeDios:

"English" is a metaphor for language here. The ability to acquire good spoken AND WRITTEN language skills is a mark of intelligence. But it only measures just one kind of intelligence - if you buy the theory of multiple intelligences.

this sounds more like the truth

henryobinna:
teaching is done in local language?

Such a school should be closed.

closed for impacting knowledge in local language.

you are funny

speaking english doesnt make u smart there are many non english speaking people that are smart too english is just a language just like any other language and intelligence differs

henryobinna:
teaching is done in local language?
Such a school should be closed.

why?....