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Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 3:36pm On Jan 09
Hairyrapunzel:


So you have to assume that Jeremiah is referring to Christmas tree abi?

You even have to put your assumptions right after the bible verse you quoted. Let me now give you a shocker.

Christmas tree is made of plastic or cut from a real plant, Christmas trees can be moved, They are not nailed or hammered to the ground. They are removed after festive periods, the decorations are made of plastic. Nobody worships or bows to a Christmas tree.
Green and red is Christmas colour. It's a decoration
Not an idol.

At the end of the day you are assuming. You want to force Christmas tree to become the idol Jeremiah talked about.

We make use of our brains o don't think that because independent thinking is forbidden in your organization that means everyone shouldn't use their brains.

I am still waiting for the bible verse that said that Christmas and birthday was condemned by jehovah, Jesus Christ or the apostles.

Show us where Jesus Christ or Jehovah condemned herod or pharaoh for celebrating birthday.

Show us where jehovah or Jesus Christ or the apostles condemned people for celebrating when jesus Christ was born.
the churches decorates the manger with palm trees and decked it with silver & gold.

So all the verses i gave to you, you didn't even know when Yahawashi Hamasciach was BORN?

The rubber fir tree was invented by the germans, make your research the origin of the rubber fir tree.
The rubber fir tree represent the mount and the forbidden fruits in the garden of eden.
The ribbon that goes round the rubber fir tree represnt serpent which beguile EVE.
The star on top of the rubber fir tree represent LUCIFER (satan).
The gift under the fir tree represent bowing down to Satan. when you drop the gift, you bow down to satan.

What is the rubber fir tree got to do with the birth of my saviour? Elohim forbids.

JEREMIAH 10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.


All these are the customs of the heathen below;


DEUTRONOMY 28: 48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

Who gave you, office dress code ?
Who gave you, office language for communication ?
Who gave you, XMASS festival ?
Who gave you, NEW year Festival ?
Who gave you, ESTHER Festival ?
Who gave you MOTHER’S day ?
Who gave you, FATHER’S
Who gave you, VALENTINE day ?
Who gave you WORKERS day ?
Who gave you INDEPENDENCE day ?
Who gave you all dis pagans days ? THE HEATHEN JEREMIAH 10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.

These are the reasons why Anton LaVey, the founder of church of Satan in America said all parents in the world makes their children to serve Satan once in a year .
Church of Satan/Founder
Anton LaVey
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 4:12pm On Jan 09
EdifiedHebrew:
the churches decorates the manger with palm trees and decked it with silver & gold.

So all the verses i gave to you, you didn't even know when Yahawashi Hamasciach was BORN?

The rubber fir tree was invented by the germans, make your research the origin of the rubber fir tree.
The rubber fir tree represent the mount and the forbidden fruits in the garden of eden.
The ribbon that goes round the rubber fir tree represnt serpent which beguile EVE.
The star on top of the rubber fir tree represent LUCIFER (satan).
The gift under the fir tree represent bowing down to Satan. when you drop the gift, you bow down to satan.

What is the rubber fir tree got to do with the birth of my saviour? Elohim forbids.

JEREMIAH 10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.


All these are the customs of the heathen below;


DEUTRONOMY 28: 48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

Who gave you, office dress code ?
Who gave you, office language for communication ?
Who gave you, XMASS festival ?
Who gave you, NEW year Festival ?
Who gave you, ESTHER Festival ?
Who gave you MOTHER’S day ?
Who gave you, FATHER’S
Who gave you, VALENTINE day ?
Who gave you WORKERS day ?
Who gave you INDEPENDENCE day ?
Who gave you all dis pagans days ? THE HEATHEN JEREMIAH 10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.

These are the reasons why Anton LaVey, the founder of church of Satan in America said all parents in the world makes their children to serve Satan once in a year .
Church of Satan/Founder
Anton LaVey



Assumer. Lol. Is it not the same Satan worshippers that gave us internet? Lol.
You even have to assume Christmas tree is what Jeremiah was talking about. Lol

Must you guys believe speculation sef?
Who gave you internet
Who gave you television
Who gave you suit
Who gave you days of the week
Who gave you months of the year
Who gave you aeroplane
Who gave you wedding anniversary
Who gave gave you baby shower
Who gave you bridal shower
Who gave you wedding anniversary
Who gave you electricity

It has to be Satan or Satan worshippers. Lol
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 4:28pm On Jan 09
Hairyrapunzel:


So you are still struggling to provide the bible verse where jehovah, Jesus Christ, apostles or early Christians condemned pharaoh or herod for celebrating birthday.

Quote the bible verse or is it so difficult? or no bible verse mentions such?

We are patiently waiting.
Show me the verses that states the birthday of Yahawashi Hamasciach on december 25th.

I have shown you scriptures when Yahawashi Hamasciach was born, so why are you bearing false witness against his birth day ( FEAST OF PASSOVER in April)
if someone changed your birthday to another date will you accept it?

nobody and no church has the power to change the birthday of Yahawashi Hamasciach whom you called Jesus Christ from April to december. from spring equinox to winter equinox ok.....
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 4:30pm On Jan 09
Hairyrapunzel:


Assumer. Lol. Is it not the same Satan worshippers that gave us internet? Lol.
You even have to assume Christmas tree is what Jeremiah was talking about. Lol

Must you guys believe speculation sef?
Who gave you internet
Who gave you television
Who gave you suit
Who gave you days of the week
Who gave you months of the year
Who gave you aeroplane
Who gave you wedding anniversary
Who gave gave you baby shower
Who gave you bridal shower
Who gave you wedding anniversary
Who gave you electricity

It has to be Satan or Satan worshippers. Lol
DEUTRONOMY 28:48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things:[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 4:56pm On Jan 09
EdifiedHebrew:

DEUTRONOMY 28:48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in unclothedness, and in want of all things:[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.64 And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.

So you have to assume that people bow down to Christmas tree? Lol
You even have to assume that they nail and hammer Christmas tree to the ground so it won't move. Lol

You still went ahead to assume its gold and silver they put whereas na plastic them use decocorate tree.
Assumer.

Lol
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 5:06pm On Jan 09
EdifiedHebrew:
Show me the verses that states the birthday of Yahawashi Hamasciach on december 25th.

I have shown you scriptures when Yahawashi Hamasciach was born, so why are you bearing false witness against his birth day ( FEAST OF PASSOVER in April)
if someone changed your birthday to another date will you accept it?

nobody and no church has the power to change the birthday of Yahawashi Hamasciach whom you called Jesus Christ from April to december. from spring equinox to winter equinox ok.....

Not when you have shown me where bible mentioned January, February, march, April, may June, July, August, September, October, November and December.

Then show me where the bible said 30days hath September, April, June and November all the rest hath 31 except February alone which hath 28 days and 29days in each leap year.

Once you show me then you have won this argument.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 7:49pm On Jan 09
Hairyrapunzel:


Not when you have shown me where bible mentioned January, February, march, April, may June, July, August, September, October, November and December.

Then show me where the bible said 30days hath September, April, June and November all the rest hath 31 except February alone which hath 28 days and 29days in each leap year.

Once you show me then you have won this argument.
The real calender is the new moon. all this your man made calender is the calender of the beast. ROME changed the calender & Also changed the sabbathdays n other laws of Yahawah Bahasham Yahawashi Hamasciach. See the prophecy in Daniel7:25 - 27 & Revelation 13: 3 - 9.

DANIEL 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

REVELATION 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


PSALMS 81:3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.

4 For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Jacob.


5 This he ordained in Joseph for a testimony, when he went out through the land of Egypt: where I heard a language that I understood not.

PSALMS 104: 19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.

ECCLESIASTICUS 43: 6 He made the Moon also to serue in her season, for a declaration of times, and a sign of the world.

7 From the Moon is the sign of Feasts, a light that decreaseth in her perfection.

8 The moneth is called after her name, encreasing wonderfully in her changing, being an instrument of the armies above, shining in the firmament of heauen,


9 The beauty of heauen, the glory of the stars, an ornament giving light in the highest places of the Lord.

10 At the commandement of the holy One, they will stand in their order, and neuer faint in their watches.

GENESIS 1: 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 8:34pm On Jan 09
EdifiedHebrew:
The real calender is the new moon. all this your man made calender is the calender of the beast. ROME changed the calender & Also changed the sabbathdays n other laws of Yahawah Bahasham Yahawashi Hamasciach. See the prophecy in Daniel7:25 - 27 & Revelation 13: 3 - 9.

DANIEL 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

REVELATION 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


PSALMS 81:3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.

4 For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Jacob.


5 This he ordained in Joseph for a testimony, when he went out through the land of Egypt: where I heard a language that I understood not.

PSALMS 104: 19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.

ECCLESIASTICUS 43: 6 He made the Moon also to serue in her season, for a declaration of times, and a sign of the world.

7 From the Moon is the sign of Feasts, a light that decreaseth in her perfection.

8 The moneth is called after her name, encreasing wonderfully in her changing, being an instrument of the armies above, shining in the firmament of heauen,


9 The beauty of heauen, the glory of the stars, an ornament giving light in the highest places of the Lord.

10 At the commandement of the holy One, they will stand in their order, and neuer faint in their watches.

GENESIS 1: 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

So after all these you still can't quote the verse that condemns the celebration of Christ's birth?
Or you still can't quote the bible verse that mentions January to December. Hmmmm
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 8:37pm On Jan 09
EdifiedHebrew:
The real calender is the new moon. all this your man made calender is the calender of the beast. ROME changed the calender & Also changed the sabbathdays n other laws of Yahawah Bahasham Yahawashi Hamasciach. See the prophecy in Daniel7:25 - 27 & Revelation 13: 3 - 9.

DANIEL 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

REVELATION 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


PSALMS 81:3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.

4 For this was a statute for Israel, and a law of the God of Jacob.


5 This he ordained in Joseph for a testimony, when he went out through the land of Egypt: where I heard a language that I understood not.

PSALMS 104: 19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.

ECCLESIASTICUS 43: 6 He made the Moon also to serue in her season, for a declaration of times, and a sign of the world.

7 From the Moon is the sign of Feasts, a light that decreaseth in her perfection.

8 The moneth is called after her name, encreasing wonderfully in her changing, being an instrument of the armies above, shining in the firmament of heauen,


9 The beauty of heauen, the glory of the stars, an ornament giving light in the highest places of the Lord.

10 At the commandement of the holy One, they will stand in their order, and neuer faint in their watches.

GENESIS 1: 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Lol now is the real calendar is the new moon? Lol.
I no fit laff. Continue using new moon na since it's the real calendar. You are not even ashamed to use our pagan/Satan worshippers calendar. Lol
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 9:06pm On Jan 09
Hairyrapunzel:

Lol now is the real calendar is the new moon? Lol.
I no fit laff. Continue using new moon na since it's the real calendar. You are not even ashamed to use our pagan/Satan worshippers calendar. Lol
So you don't know that month is derived from MOON? come - on my hommie. New moon is new month. the dates in the calender are the movement of the moon. please do your research.
so you don't believe Elohim again?
you don't believe the scriptures again?
you don't believe the Messiah whom you said his birthday is on december 25th again?

1 TIMOTHY 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 9:13pm On Jan 09
Hairyrapunzel:


So after all these you still can't quote the verse that condemns the celebration of Christ's birth?
Or you still can't quote the bible verse that mentions January to December. Hmmmm
the First month is Abib and the last month is Adar. January is named after Roman n Greek god called Janus. you beta wake up from sleep. if you want to learn remove pride.

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Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by achorladey: 9:31pm On Jan 09
Peacefullove:


Dealt with. Next time u won't run your mouth on issues you have no clue about.

Peacefullove: Dealt with. Next time u won't run your mouth on issues you have no clue about.

Achorladey: Dealt with what? It's just that feel good pleasure you crave about winning debates after that, WETIN YOU GAIN? If I were to check who had run mouth into issues that you have no clue as contained on this thread between you and I, you will eventually find out that you are the one RUNNING YOUR MOUTH LIKE A RUNNING NOSE. Abeg find something to apply BRAKES! Hahahahahahahha. Did Hairyrapunzel got a hold of what that initial post of mine dealt with? His post on that says it all. Did you attempt the question I gave you on what my post was based? YOU QUOTE ENCYCLOPEDIA. Pele ti e!
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 10:10pm On Jan 09
EdifiedHebrew:
the First month is Abib and the last month is Adar. January is named after Roman n Greek called Janus. you beta wake up from sleep. if you want to learn remove pride.

Lol. So you use something that has pagan origin? You are practicing paganism like us. Lol if you use pagan calendar you are a pagan and Satan worshipper simple.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 10:14pm On Jan 09
EdifiedHebrew:
So you don't know that month is derived from MOON? come - on my hommie. New moon is new month. the dates in the calender are the movement of the moon. please do your research.
so you don't believe Elohim again?
you don't believe the scriptures again?
you don't believe the Messiah whom you said his birthday is on december 25th again?

1 TIMOTHY 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Lol. You have to change mouth to moon lol.
You said I should show you where December 25th was mentioned as Christ birthday in the Bible and I asked you to show me January to December in the Bible. Since you couldn't you had to bring out new moon to cover your ignorance. Lol

Did I ask you for the moon? No.

Till now you can't provide a bible passage that says jesus Christ or apostles condemned Christmas or birthday celebration.


Assumer.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 10:16pm On Jan 09
EdifiedHebrew:
the First month is Abib and the last month is Adar. January is named after Roman n Greek called Janus. you beta wake up from sleep. if you want to learn remove pride.

At the end of the day you still can't provide Bible verses to support your claims. So pathetic
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Peacefullove: 12:45am On Jan 10
Hairyrapunzel:


So you still can't provide the bible verse that warns Christians from celebrating birthday and Christmas?
You found a bible verse that warns Christians to desist from homosexuality whereas you couldn't find any bible verse that warns Christians from celebrating birthday and Christmas lol.



I no fit laff Mr sense. Encyclopedia brittanica wasn't lying? Who told you that? Lol.

I heard the encyclopedia brittanica has 15editions. Lol

I no fit laff. So you want me to believe something written by uninspired people who you consider pagans and Satan worshippers?
I no fit laff o.
Mr sense doesn't even know that encyclopedia brittanica is edited regularly lol. Information can change anytime.

Someone from the 18th century gave a speculation/assumption on what happened in bible times this thing wasn't written in bible o. The person just assumed it and peaceful love is telling me to swallow it. He is forcing information that can change anytime down my throat. Lol

Encyclopedia brittanica expert.



Story . if you feel the encyclopedia lied on burthday celebration , why not prove it wrong ?

U no fit!

And as for the bold, this is exactly why u are tagged Mr no sense , is the birthday of pagans not written in the Bible ? Am still baffled at why your Bible only link birthdays with Pagans , just as the encyclopedia confirmed its a pagan custom .
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Peacefullove: 12:55am On Jan 10
achorladey:


Peacefullove: Dealt with. Next time u won't run your mouth on issues you have no clue about.

Achorladey: Dealt with what? It's just that feel good pleasure you crave about winning debates after that, WETIN YOU GAIN? If I were to check who had run mouth into issues that you have no clue as contained on this thread between you and I, you will eventually find out that you are the one RUNNING YOUR MOUTH LIKE A RUNNING NOSE. Abeg find something to apply BRAKES! Hahahahahahahha. Did Hairyrapunzel got a hold of what that initial post of mine dealt with? His post on that says it all. Did you attempt the question I gave you on what my post was based? YOU QUOTE ENCYCLOPEDIA. Pele ti e!


And if that encyclopedia lied, why not prove it wrong ? Is that too hard ? grin grin like I said you don't have what it takes to discuss intelligently, Thanks to that Jw member Jozzy4 , He even let us see how you misquote and lied against an innocent article to make it support you. See your life .

Question remains: Why is the bible supporting that encyclopedia by linking birthdays celebration with pagans ?

U can never answer that. Because u are arguing emotionally and not with facts

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Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by achorladey: 7:48am On Jan 10
Peacefullove:


And if that encyclopedia lied, why not prove it wrong ? Is that too hard ? grin grin like I said you don't have what it takes to discuss intelligently, Thanks to that Jw member Jozzy4 , He even let us see how you misquote and lied against an innocent article to make it support you. See your life .

Question remains: Why is the bible supporting that encyclopedia by linking birthdays celebration with pagans ?

U can never answer that. Because u are arguing emotionally and not with facts


Is not a must I have the last words on this issue.

you are free to ask .......Why is the bible supporting that encyclopedia by linking birthdays celebration with pagans? as much as possible. Na your palaver not mine.

I argue emotionally or discuss unintelligently not a thing of bother to me.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 9:47am On Jan 10
Hairyrapunzel:


Lol. You have to change mouth to moon lol.
You said I should show you where December 25th was mentioned as Christ birthday in the Bible and I asked you to show me January to December in the Bible. Since you couldn't you had to bring out new moon to cover your ignorance. Lol

Did I ask you for the moon? No.

Till now you can't provide a bible passage that says jesus Christ or apostles condemned Christmas or birthday celebration.


Assumer.
This is the first month Exodus 13:4 This day came ye out in the month Abib.

5 And it shall be when the LORD shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee, a land flowing with milk and honey, that thou shalt keep this service in this month.

EXODUS 12:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,

2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.


3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:

This is the Last Month Of The Year
ESTHER 3:7 In the first month, that is, the month Nisan, in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus, they cast Pur, that is, the lot, before Haman from day to day, and from month to month, to the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar.

ESTHER 8:9 Then were the king's scribes called at that time in the third month, that is, the month Sivan, on the three and twentieth day thereof; and it was written according to all that Mordecai commanded unto the Jews, and to the lieutenants, and the deputies and rulers of the provinces which are from India unto Ethiopia, an hundred twenty and seven provinces, unto every province according to the writing thereof, and unto every people after their language, and to the Jews according to their writing, and according to their language.

NEHEMIAH 6: 15 So the wall was finished in the twenty and fifth day of the month Elul, in fifty and two days.

ESTHER 2:16 So Esther was taken unto king Ahasuerus into his house royal in the tenth month, which is the month Tebeth, in the seventh year of his reign.

ZECHARIAH 7:1 And it came to pass in the fourth year of king Darius, that the word of the LORD came unto Zechariah in the fourth day of the ninth month, even in Chisleu;
THE HEATHEN /THE BEAST renamed the month after the names of their gods. e.g January is JANUS the Roman n Greek god. February named after Februalia , a time for sacrificers, March named after Mars, the god of war. do your research for others. See The Prophecy in the book of Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

EXODUS 23:13 And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth..


Are you satified now?
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 9:58am On Jan 10
Hairyrapunzel:


Lol. So you use something that has pagan origin? You are practicing paganism like us. Lol if you use pagan calendar you are a pagan and Satan worshipper simple.
I uses the calender ordianed in the scriptures to celebrate the birth, death & ressucration of Yahawashi Hamasciach, i use it for THE FEAST OF PASSOVER, PENTACOST, ATTONMENT & THE FEAST OF TABERNACLE. I also use it for the HOLY SABBATHDAYS. and remember the most high sworn no keeping of sabbath days holy no heaven for you and your popes, bishops, priests, pastors & general overseers. please read Exodus 31: 12 - 17 & Hebrews 4: 1 - 12 for confirmation. before is too late for the stiffnecks.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 4:43pm On Jan 10
EdifiedHebrew:
I uses the calender ordianed in the scriptures to celebrate the birth, death & ressucration of Yahawashi Hamasciach, i use it for THE FEAST OF PASSOVER, PENTACOST, ATTONMENT & THE FEAST OF TABERNACLE. I also use it for the HOLY SABBATHDAYS. and remember the most high sworn no keeping of sabbath days holy no heaven for you and your popes, bishops, priests, pastors & general overseers. please read Exodus 31: 12 - 17 & Hebrews 4: 1 - 12 for confirmation. before is too late for the stiffnecks.

So the message here is that January to December isn't mentioned in the Bible. Have you now learnt?
Next time don't ask me to show you where they mentioned December 25th was jesus Christ birthday in the Bible.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 5:25pm On Jan 10
Hairyrapunzel:


So the message here is that January to December isn't mentioned in the Bible. Have you now learnt?
Next time don't ask me to show you where they mentioned December 25th was jesus Christ birthday in the Bible.

How many times will i show you the names of the 12 months in the bible? the meat is too hard for you to chew. You need milk.

HEBREWS 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

MATTHEW 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them th
at are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by TATIME: 5:29pm On Jan 10
@alBHAGDADI
If you're sincere with your own salvation, you won't be using one mouth celebrating Christmas and the other chanting TRINITY alongside some Kumuyi's boy who don't even recognise you as a CHRISTIAN!
Mr father Christmas! grin grin grin
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 5:33pm On Jan 10
Hairyrapunzel:


So the message here is that January to December isn't mentioned in the Bible. Have you now learnt?
Next time don't ask me to show you where they mentioned December 25th was jesus Christ birthday in the Bible.

SEE THE 12 MONTHS IN THE BIBLE AGAIN.

This is the first month Exodus 13:4 This day came ye out in the month Abib.

5 And it shall be when the LORD shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee, a land flowing with milk and honey, that thou shalt keep this service in this month.

EXODUS 12:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,

2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.


3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:

This is the Last Month Of The Year
ESTHER 3:7
In the first month, that is, the month Nisan, in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus, they cast Pur, that is, the lot, before Haman from day to day, and from month to month, to the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar.

ESTHER 8:9 Then were the king's scribes called at that time in the third month, that is, the month Sivan,
on the three and twentieth day thereof; and it was written according to all that Mordecai commanded unto the Jews, and to the lieutenants, and the deputies and rulers of the provinces which are from India unto Ethiopia, an hundred twenty and seven provinces, unto every province according to the writing thereof, and unto every people after their language, and to the Jews according to their writing, and according to their language.

NEHEMIAH 6: 15 So the wall was finished in the twenty and fifth day of the month Elul, in fifty and two days.


ESTHER 2:16 So Esther was taken unto king Ahasuerus into his house royal in the tenth month, which is the month Tebeth, in the seventh year of his reign.

ZECHARIAH 7:1 And it came to pass in the fourth year of king Darius, that the word of the LORD came unto Zechariah in the fourth day of the ninth month, even in Chisleu;

THE HEATHEN /THE BEAST renamed the month after the names of their gods. e.g January is JANUS the Roman n Greek god. February named after Februalia , a time for sacrificers, March named after Mars, the god of war. do your research for others. See The Prophecy in the book of Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

EXODUS 23:13 And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth..
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 1:41pm On Jan 11
EdifiedHebrew:
SEE THE 12 MONTHS IN THE BIBLE AGAIN.

This is the first month Exodus 13:4 This day came ye out in the month Abib.

5 And it shall be when the LORD shall bring thee into the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee, a land flowing with milk and honey, that thou shalt keep this service in this month.

EXODUS 12:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,

2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.


3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:

This is the Last Month Of The Year
ESTHER 3:7
In the first month, that is, the month Nisan, in the twelfth year of king Ahasuerus, they cast Pur, that is, the lot, before Haman from day to day, and from month to month, to the twelfth month, that is, the month Adar.

ESTHER 8:9 Then were the king's scribes called at that time in the third month, that is, the month Sivan,
on the three and twentieth day thereof; and it was written according to all that Mordecai commanded unto the Jews, and to the lieutenants, and the deputies and rulers of the provinces which are from India unto Ethiopia, an hundred twenty and seven provinces, unto every province according to the writing thereof, and unto every people after their language, and to the Jews according to their writing, and according to their language.

NEHEMIAH 6: 15 So the wall was finished in the twenty and fifth day of the month Elul, in fifty and two days.


ESTHER 2:16 So Esther was taken unto king Ahasuerus into his house royal in the tenth month, which is the month Tebeth, in the seventh year of his reign.

ZECHARIAH 7:1 And it came to pass in the fourth year of king Darius, that the word of the LORD came unto Zechariah in the fourth day of the ninth month, even in Chisleu;

THE HEATHEN /THE BEAST renamed the month after the names of their gods. e.g January is JANUS the Roman n Greek god. February named after Februalia , a time for sacrificers, March named after Mars, the god of war. do your research for others. See The Prophecy in the book of Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

EXODUS 23:13 And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth..

In all these you still can't point any bible verse that supports your belief. Lol
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 1:50pm On Jan 11
Peacefullove:


And if that encyclopedia lied, why not prove it wrong ? Is that too hard ? grin grin like I said you don't have what it takes to discuss intelligently, Thanks to that Jw member Jozzy4 , He even let us see how you misquote and lied against an innocent article to make it support you. See your life .

Question remains: Why is the bible supporting that encyclopedia by linking birthdays celebration with pagans ?

U can never answer that. Because u are arguing emotionally and not with facts


So now it is encyclopedia no more bible? Lol
Hide your head in shame. You wanted to deceive readers when it was time for gay and lesbianism you referenced bible. Why didn't you reference encyclopedia when you were talking of gay and lesbianism?

You just feel everybody is gullible.

Just tell us that you feel Christians should stop celebrating their birthday because encyclopedia brittanica said early Christians may have viewed birthdays as dirty. Lol

In fact just tell Christians to throw their bibles away and start using encyclopedia brittanica as their holy book because it was written in the 18th century and it is always edited and information changes.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 1:51pm On Jan 11
TATIME:
@alBHAGDADI
If you're sincere with your own salvation, you won't be using one mouth celebrating Christmas and the other chanting TRINITY alongside some Kumuyi's boy who don't even recognise you as a CHRISTIAN!
Mr father Christmas! grin grin grin

Show us bible verse that condemns celebration of birthdays or Christmas?
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 1:59pm On Jan 11
Peacefullove:


And if that encyclopedia lied, why not prove it wrong ? Is that too hard ? grin grin like I said you don't have what it takes to discuss intelligently, Thanks to that Jw member Jozzy4 , He even let us see how you misquote and lied against an innocent article to make it support you. See your life .

Question remains: Why is the bible supporting that encyclopedia by linking birthdays celebration with pagans ?

U can never answer that. Because u are arguing emotionally and not with facts


Are you alright? So to hide your assumptions you now assume someone should prove encyclopedia brittanica as wrong.

I no fit laff.

You know say we done catch you for your cunning and deceitful nature that's why you are saying he should prove encyclopedia brittanica wrong.
When your big mouth was quoting gay and lesbianism you didn't remember encyclopedia brittanica but when you wanted to quote what's not in the Bible you remembered your encyclopedia.

Lol. Unintelligent lot.
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 3:12pm On Jan 11
Hairyrapunzel:


In all these you still can't point any bible verse that supports your belief. Lol

It means you are blind so you can't see DECEMBER in the book of ZECHARIAH 7:1 And it came to pass in the fourth year of king Darius, that the word of the LORD came unto Zechariah in the fourth day of the ninth month, even in Chisleu;

APRIL is the First Month which is called ABIB.

DECEMBER is the ninth month which is called Chisleu.

The New year ordained by Yahawah Bahasham Yahawashi Hamasciach starts in April not Jamuary created by the beast. Exodus 12: 1 - 11 & Exodus 13: 3 - 5. (FEAST OF PASSOVER).

See where you belong in the book of MATTHEW 13: 13 - 15, if you can't see this last message i sent to you.

MATTHEW 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
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Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by Hairyrapunzel: 4:46pm On Jan 11
EdifiedHebrew:


It means you are blind so you can't see DECEMBER in the book of ZECHARIAH 7:1 And it came to pass in the fourth year of king Darius, that the word of the LORD came unto Zechariah in the fourth day of the ninth month, even in Chisleu;

APRIL is the First Month which is called ABIB.

DECEMBER is the ninth month which is called Chisleu.

The New year ordained by Yahawah Bahasham Yahawashi Hamasciach starts in April not Jamuary created by the beast. Exodus 12: 1 - 11 & Exodus 13: 3 - 5. (FEAST OF PASSOVER).

See where you belong in the book of MATTHEW 13: 13 - 15, if you can't see this last message i sent to you.

MATTHEW 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
.

So you are still assuming? Well, when you are ready to show us the bible verse where Jesus Christ, jehovah or the apostles condemned Christmas and birthday let us know
Re: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by EdifiedHebrew: 5:49pm On Jan 11
[quote author=Hairyrapunzel post=74666629]

So you are still assuming? Well, when you are ready to show us the bible verse where Jesus Christ, jehovah or the apostles condemned Christmas and birthday let us know

CHRISTMAS IS FOR WHAT PURPOSE? My Messiah was born in the month of ABIB (APRIL). SO WHAT IS CHRISTMAS FOR AND FOR WHICH GOD? Please proof it. I have proven his bithday for you in the BIBLE.

This is where Yahawashi Hamasciach Condemned Christmas JEREMIAH 10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
(The christmas is the way of the heathen, Yahawashi Hamasciach said don't follow their doctrines.)

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