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Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by bawomolo(m): 12:34am On Aug 09, 2010
Mcleo007:

Marriage is a mutual union, exclusive to two pple. Submissiveness in marriage is healthy, bt should never be misunderstood for subjugation.

is polygamy exclusive to two people?

who decides when submission is healthy?
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by bawomolo(m): 12:36am On Aug 09, 2010
buzugee:

how can 'voluntary imprisonment' be sweet ? angry at least if you rob a bank you will be paroled after like 10 years in prison angry even some murderers are paroled after 25 years. marriage is 'life without parole' cry

lol your own too much. you probably would abscond on your wedding day.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Nobody: 12:38am On Aug 09, 2010
LMAO!!! People are even quoting the bible.

Want to hear something hilarious? Ask them the last time they cracked open that bible before hitting this thread.


Anywaz. . . . submission is healthy in a relationship. It's a win-win situation if the hubby is not an arsehoe. I think the married women on this thread have said it all  kiss
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by oyinda3(f): 12:39am On Aug 09, 2010
Mcleo007:

Marriage is a mutual union, exclusive to two pple. Submissiveness in marriage is healthy, bt should never be misunderstood for subjugation.

submissive definition:

# inclined or willing to submit to orders or wishes of others or showing such inclination; "submissive servants"; "a submissive reply"; "replacing troublemakers with more submissive people"
# slavish: abjectly submissive; characteristic of a slave or servant; "slavish devotion to her job ruled her life"; "a slavish yes-man to the party bosses"- S.H.Adams; "she has become submissive and subservient"
# submissively - deferentially: in a servile manner; "he always acts so deferentially around his supervisor"
# Someone in SM play who surrenders to a dominant.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by chiogo(f): 12:42am On Aug 09, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

Anywaz. . . . submission is healthy in a relationship. It's a win-win situation if the hubby is not an arsehoe. I think te married women have said it all on this thread  kiss
And how is it healthy? People esp. Nigerians just like to force down their ideologies on others. There are marriages without this submission crap, which work just fine. Who's to determine what's healthy? Is it healthy because some women choose to live in misery thereby staying married for life, which is automatically assumed to be a lovely marriage?
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by oyinda3(f): 12:44am On Aug 09, 2010
Ileke-IdI:


Anywaz. . . . submission is healthy in a relationship. It's a win-win situation if the hubby is not an arsehoe. I think the married women on this thread have said it all  kiss

yeah. i'll be a slave too. as long as my master is nice.

To be honest, I don't think any woman who posts here on Nairaland and has a day job is a "submissive wife" according to the true definition of being a submissive wife.
maybe "leilah" is d only true submissive wife i've seen on NL. d rest are just claiming d word to feel among  tongue i'm sure they'll be d first to nag their husband.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by buzugee(m): 12:48am On Aug 09, 2010
bawomolo:

lol your own too much. you probably would abscond on your wedding day.
i plead the fifth grin
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Nobody: 12:57am On Aug 09, 2010
chiogo:

And how is it healthy? People esp. Nigerians just like to force down their ideologies on others. There are marriages without this submission crap, which work just fine. Who's to determine what's healthy? Is it healthy because some women choose to live in misery thereby staying married for life, which is automatically assumed to be a lovely marriage?
Chichi, read the last part, "if the husband is not an azzhoe" must be applied at all time. Yes, when you hear submission, you think enslavement and life of misery. But it's really not. In my perspective, submission has various of meaning, depending on the people involved. Submission does not grant the man the privileges of walking over you neither does it enslave you. My definition of healthy might not be your definition of healthy, it has ambiguous/cryptic meanings and  like I said before, it all depends on the people involved.

Submit to him, pump up his ego, make him feel good and I assure you he'll do anything to please you. And in turn he'll try to satisfy you and find ways of making you content.

Before I used to think the same way, "hell no to submission", but it has granted me a lot of access. kiss tongue


oyinda.:

yeah. i'll be a slave too. as long as my master is nice.

To be honest, I don't think any woman who posts here on Nairaland and has a day job is a "submissive wife" according to the true definition of being a submissive wife.
maybe "leilah" is d only true submissive wife i've seen on NL. d rest are just claiming d word to feel among  tongue i'm sure they'll be d first to nag their husband.

And what is the TRUE definition of "submissive wife"?
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by bawomolo(m): 1:06am On Aug 09, 2010
buzugee:

i plead the fifth grin

just don't mess with a woman whose daddy has a shotgun cheesy

Submit to him, pump up his ego, make him feel good and I assure you he'll do anything to please you. And in turn he'll try to satisfy you and find ways of making you content.

what assurance? you mean the same country where having mistresses and side pieces is a regular occurrence?

how has submissiveness benefited you in your relationships, just wondering.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by chiogo(f): 1:10am On Aug 09, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

Submit to him, pump up his ego, make him feel good and I assure you he'll do anything to please you. And in turn he'll try to satisfy you and find ways of making you content.
That's actually what I have a problem with. I agree with making him feel good, which should go both ways by the way. But pump his ego? What for? If he's secure, why would there be a need for that? That's like how you give candy to kids to get them to shut up. I'm assuming he's a grown man obviously, why can't he know to do the right thing without some ego-pumping? I mean do people really get into a marriage not knowing their roles? Still makes no sense.

And I'm going with the dictionary definition of the word, which mostly has to do with slave like oyinda. posted.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by bawomolo(m): 1:15am On Aug 09, 2010
ikeke idi - would you do stuff like prostrate for your husband to greet him or before giving him a plate of food?
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Nobody: 1:30am On Aug 09, 2010
chiogo:

That's actually what I have a problem with. I agree with making him feel good, which should go both ways by the way. But pump his ego? What for? If he's secure, why would there be a need for that? That's like how you give candy to kids to get them to shut up. I'm assuming he's a grown man obviously, why can't he know to do the right thing without some ego-pumping? I mean do people really get into a marriage not knowing their roles? Still makes no sense.

And I'm going with the dictionary definition of the word, which mostly has to do with slave like oyinda. posted.

Alright ma'am. . . . I wont disagree with you or try to change your opinion. You're allowed.

Self-security problem  is not always about pumping up your man's ego tho wink Let me tell you something, if a man is not secured, even if you pump up his ego, he still wouldnt feel secured. Point is, he likes YOU making him feel like a man he should be. smiley


bawomolo:

ikeke idi - would you do stuff like prostrate for your husband to greet him or before giving him a plate of food?
Let's be serious. This is the 21st century, no man wants his wife to prostrate for him while bringing his meal. And how is that submissiveness?
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by bawomolo(m): 2:04am On Aug 09, 2010
Let's be serious. This is the 21st century, no man wants his wife to prostrate for him while bringing his meal. And how is that submissiveness?

you would be surprised. that was considered submissiveness back in the day too.

you didn't answer my other questions.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Nobody: 2:13am On Aug 09, 2010
bawomolo:

you would be surprised. that was considered submissiveness back in the day too.

you didn't answer my other questions.

Yea, back in the days. . . . like I said, no man in my generation would expect that of me.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by bawomolo(m): 2:20am On Aug 09, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

Yea, back in the days. . . . like I said, no man in my generation would expect that of me.

but that was submissiveness then, are you saying it wasn't healthy? 

i hope you now realize a submissive relationship may or may not be healthy, it depends on the individuals involved.  i doubt women like hilary clinton or michelle obama are submissive.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Theblessed(f): 3:34am On Aug 09, 2010
invisible!:

@Theblessed, don't worry, just pray to get a man like me. 30 days dry fasting and your prayer will be answered. And you will enjoy being loved like my baby.

[size=16pt]You see, I don't need a little boy like you in my life that's not my style - a little boy? No, that would be child abuse! Little boys are not my thing - no, no ,no!  Not my style, ok! I deal with adults, who complies with my standards, me the Princess - else, their balls will be popped and they know it. [/size]
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Busybody2(f): 3:58am On Aug 09, 2010
[quote=Roliks09]
[size=16pt]I'm actually tired of hearing that for the sake of the children, the woman should take poo. Why, cant the husband, for the children's sake decide not to throw poo at his wife?[/size] Men feel its alright if they behave badly but wrong if a woman retaliates. Why do I have to work so hard to clean a mess that should never have been, if only the man had the sense to?
Its so unfair that women who are at the receiving end are urged to bear with the man but the men are never scolded for their actions or inactions.
If you treat your wife well,you wont even have to demand submission, you'll get it on a platter of gold cos then, it'll be the most natural thing for her to do

[/quote]




Exactly. Tell 'em cool
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Busybody2(f): 4:04am On Aug 09, 2010
@Bamowolo

bawomolo:

i don't see what's so horrible about what theblessed is saying. i typically disagree with her religious stance but what's so wrong about a man putting on the kettle when he comes home earlier than his wife.

it's about time we break out of this stereotypical gender roles.

i wonder where all these religious talk go when nigerian men are out cheating about.

you guys typically forget this christian god frowns on adultery.


Phew, thanks for saving me from reading that particular post for the 600th time tongue All she harped on about was her disdain for oppressive men, and some Dundee United's are demanding for her head on a plate that it is their constitutional right to have their egos stroked undecided
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by oyinda3(f): 4:11am On Aug 09, 2010
@ileke-idi,
basically to be a submissive wife, you do what your husband wants u to do.
like 18 yr old teen living with his parents. u have to listen to them just because they are your parents. lol most can't wait to leave for college and get their own independence. but imagine a wife living like that all her life.

and those saying there can't be two captains of a ship. to me, that analogy is too simplistic since there are many facets to a marriage and each spouse will be better at some aspect and vice versa

besides, the owner of a ship is more powerful than the captain of d ship. just like a board member or large share holder can be more powerful than the CEO of a company. it all boils down to who makes more money etc. that's why working women threaten men's power.

Ileke-IdI:

Yea, back in the days. . . . like I said, no man in my generation would expect that of me.

yea. what if he tells u he wants you home at a certain time each night etc. ie placing curfews
he wants you to keep a certain friend and not otherss. ie choosing ur friends for you
he decides ur employment. ie he doesn't want you to become an engineer and would prefer you to be a secretary

will u be submissive to that?
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Oba234: 4:14am On Aug 09, 2010
lol@nairalanders throwing bible scriptures. Chineke!!! I didn't even now there were this many bible warriors on Nairaland.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Condom: 4:17am On Aug 09, 2010
Awesome to see that women are seriously hell-bent on thumping this gender-equality bullshit.

IF I ever find out that I'm dating a feminist, I will probably make her life a living hell by making sure that all things we do are fifty-fifty . . . before dumping her.

Gender-roles is more important to me in marriage than gender-equality.  That is why I would not date a woman who prefers the latter to the former.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by bawomolo(m): 4:39am On Aug 09, 2010
Oba234:

lol@nairalanders throwing bible scriptures. Chineke!!! I didn't even now there were this many bible warriors on Nairaland.

lol abi o.   all these religious people in a messed up country.

the same people who talk about pre-marital sex up and down in the romance section
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by invisible2(m): 5:11am On Aug 09, 2010
You people are derailing, the original poster left the bible out in the original question, the age gap and employment/wealth status was not asked for. The fight for equality is ruining marriages where some unfortunate men fall into the temptation of marrying troublemakers who most of the time have a long history of abusive relationships right from their families. These women then prepare themselves and swear to wreck the life of any poor man that have the misfortune to marry them. They won't try feminism at the courtship days, or for the first few years.

As soon as the man shows any signs of pocket distress, the woman pounces, becoming a tiger overnight. Enrolling in any men hating club around and forming an opposition party to the husband. She will employ the kids to turn the mans life upside down.

Sometimes I wonder why marriage should even continue, why would women allow themselves to be married when they know they have alterior motives, why not consider single motherhood, why not form and live in a female colony, why not save a poor man the misery of breaking his home with some putrid idea about feminism.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Nobody: 5:20am On Aug 09, 2010
Oba234:

[size=18pt]lol@nairalanders throwing bible scriptures. Chineke!!! I didn't even now there were this many bible warriors on Nairaland.
[/size]
grin grin grin grin

bawomolo:

but that was submissiveness then, are you saying it wasn't healthy? 

i hope you now realize a submissive relationship may or may not be healthy, it depends on the individuals involved.  i doubt women like hilary clinton or michelle obama are submissive.

No, its not healthy for ME. There's healthy submission and there's SUBMISSION.
Like I said, it depends on who is involved. There are women out there who can;t live without being treated like a slave. It gives them orgy. . . .


oyinda.:

@ileke-idi,
basically to be a submissive wife, you do what your husband wants u to do.
like 18 yr old teen living with his parents. u have to listen to them just because they are your parents. lol most can't wait to leave for college and get their own independence. but imagine a wife living like that all her life.

and those saying there can't be two captains of a ship. to me, that analogy is too simplistic since there are many facets to a marriage and each spouse will be better at some aspect and vice versa

besides, the owner of a ship is more powerful than the captain of d ship. just like a board member or large share holder can be more powerful than the CEO of a company. it all boils down to who makes more money etc. that's why working women threaten men's power.

yea. what if he tells u he wants you home at a certain time each night etc. ie placing curfews
he wants you to keep a certain friend and not otherss. ie choosing your friends for you
he decides your employment. ie he doesn't want you to become an engineer and would prefer you to be a secretary

will u be submissive to that?


Ileke-IdI:

Chichi, read the last part, "if the husband is not an azzhoe" must be applied at all time. Yes, when you hear submission, you think enslavement and life of misery. But it's really not. In my perspective, submission has various of meaning, depending on the people involved. [size=18pt]Submission does not grant the man the privileges of walking over you neither does it enslave you[/size]. My definition of healthy might not be your definition of healthy, it has ambiguous/cryptic meanings and  like I said before, it all depends on the people involved.

Submit to him, pump up his ego, make him feel good and I assure you he'll do anything to please you. And in turn he'll try to satisfy you and find ways of making you content.

Before I used to think the same way, "hell no to submission", but it has granted me a lot of access. kiss tongue

And what is the TRUE definition of "submissive wife"?



If a man respects you, honor you, etc, he will not treat you like you just said above. He'll be more than ecstatic to hear your mind. Do you think a MAN wants a baby as a wife? Do you think a man wants to wear the pant with you in marriage?
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by invisible2(m): 5:25am On Aug 09, 2010
And don't even bring Africa into this argument, we are okay the way we were before colonialism. We didn't have gay marriages here, there was no terrorism, no AIDS, no prostitution, no drugs, no porn, no robberies and we lived in our own version of peace and prosperity.

Telling me Africa is backward because we can't allow the women to ride our dicks is simply preposterous. All this madness started with the coming of white invaders, their women asked for equal rights and our own women copied the anomaly. Why am I even wasting my time, the divorce trends here are inching up, and more broken homes will happen. Let's see how you can claim alimonies here with the tortoise paced legal system. Let's see how you can claim half of the mans wealth when the police don't know their left from their right.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by invisible2(m): 5:38am On Aug 09, 2010
Like I said before, a good woman will always command the respect of his husband. She will be remembered at every moment wherever you are. She will be like a perfume, following you wherever you go. You as a man will strive to please her, to reduce her burdens, make her life easier and help her achieve her dreams. She will become a friend, a companion and a trusted confidant. She reminds you of happiness and you just do your stuff, knowing you will come back to an organised home to rest your bones.

The commanding wife will plan evil for the husband, trying to hurt him, weaken him and slow his progress.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by sulad82i(m): 5:42am On Aug 09, 2010
I wont want my woman to be totally submissive
but sometimes might be okay
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by invisible2(m): 5:55am On Aug 09, 2010
One woman I know, got tired of following her husband and decided to lead. She packed her load and left Lag to Abj. Got big contracts and was sending huge sums to the husband and her 3 kids. The husband continued to play the role of a housewife for two years, then he discreetly married another girl, brought her into the house. The woman was shocked when she learnt of the developement and came back and took her kids. Left the man and the marriage went kaput. This is a true life story.
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by Nobody: 6:33am On Aug 09, 2010
invisible!:

One woman I know, got tired of following her husband and decided to lead. She packed her load and left Lag to Abj. Got big contracts and was sending huge sums to the husband and her 3 kids. The husband continued to play the role of a housewife for two years, then he discreetly married another girl, brought her into the house. The woman was shocked when she learnt of the developement and came back and took her kids. Left the man and the marriage went kaput. This is a true life story.


And. . . .?
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by emenim(m): 6:57am On Aug 09, 2010
it is so sad to hear that fight for equality is ruining marriages, on the contrary it is a common say that what is good for the goose is also good for the gander, however there should be a line of decency to this. the man at all times should remember who the woman is to him in line with God's original purpose of marriage, like wise the woman; because it takes both understandings to make the marriage work. according to the bible, in the book of Amos- i quote CAN TWO WALK TOGETHER EXCEPT THEY AGREE ,
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by seyibrown(f): 6:59am On Aug 09, 2010
invisible!:

One woman I know, got tired of following her husband and decided to lead. She packed her load and left Lag to Abj. Got big contracts and was sending huge sums to the husband and her 3 kids. The husband continued to play the role of a housewife for two years, then he discreetly married another girl, brought her into the house. The woman was shocked when she learnt of the developement and came back and took her kids. Left the man and the marriage went kaput. This is a true life story.


That is a classic example of a dishonorable man! His other half takes the initiative to make life better for him and the kids and he pulls his own family apart by bringing in another woman! Where did he get the money to marry this 'new girl' seeing as he wasn't working? He could have moved with the kids to Abuja and try getting a job that would sustain his family! So you think the right reward for that woman's hardwork and putting bread on her family's table was to be betrayed? How many women go and marry another husband just because their husbands are in Abuja working hard to put bread on the table? These kind of men do not live or teach by example, they do one thing, preach and expect something else from the woman. What a fantastic example he has set for his children!

Olorun ma ma je ki eyan pade okunrin agbako o!
Re: Is The Fight For Equality Ruining Marriages by seyibrown(f): 7:02am On Aug 09, 2010
emenim:

it is so sad to hear that fight for equality is ruining marriages, on the contrary it is a common say that what is good for the goose is also good for the gander, however there should be a line of decency to this. the man at all times should remember who the woman is to him in line with God's original purpose of marriage, like wise the woman; because it takes both understandings to make the marriage work. according to the bible, in the book of Amos- i quote CAN TWO WALK TOGETHER EXCEPT THEY AGREE ,


Bless you!

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