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|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 9:36am On Jan 25|
Speaking of the true disciples
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by EdifiedHebrew: 2:42pm On Jan 25|
MuttleyLaff:Please tell me what is missing in my replies? 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
ISAIAH 41:21 Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob.
22 Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come.
23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
24 Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by EdifiedHebrew: 2:49pm On Jan 25|
i need Yahawashi Hamasciach GRACE
Proverbs 24:16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:11pm On Jan 25|
He doesn't know. He doesn't know that if he fails in one law, it is counted to him that he fails all. There is no lowering the standard of the law.
For those who wish to be justified by the law must follow it to the letter without any omission.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:26pm On Jan 25|
If man is able to keep the laws and be justified by it, then Christ Jesus suffered and died for nothing. It is either you are standing on the law or on grace. The law is strict. There is no mercy found in it.
Once you are found guilty, the next thing is judgment. Have you ever lust over a woman in your heart? If yes, then you deserve to be stoned according to the law because you have committed adultery with her in thy heart.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by MuttleyLaff: 9:12pm On Jan 25|
EdifiedHebrew:Empathy and compassion is missing. Your replies centred on yourself, your replies focused on achievements revolved round your personal accomplishments. There wasnt a single relational link, it was all about you, it was I, I, I and I.
I think it is nine "I"s, in:
"I have been keeping His Sabbathdays Holy no buy n no selling, I have been keeping His feasts days ordained in the scriptures, I don't eat unclean foods. I don't shave off my beard n head completely, I keep His laws, statutes, commandments & Judgments.
I don't observe christmass because it is the customs of the pagans.
I don't observe Easter because it is the customs of the pagans.
I don't observe January 1st because it is the customs of the pagans.
I don't observe anything pagan customs anymore."
You are too much in love with yourself, you dont see others to mention about that you've shown love to, given love and compassion to. You gave a typical "young ruler" reply to the question bloodofthelamb asked you. It could cost one inheriting eternal life.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 12:15pm On Jan 26|
The true Jesus disciples are back and they are back with a bang
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 12:48pm On Jan 27|
We're gradually getting there
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by orisa37: 2:20pm On Jan 27|
Good question. And the answer is No.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by orisa37: 2:26pm On Jan 27|
You must be born again.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by orisa37: 2:35pm On Jan 27|
Christianity means "The Righteous". Check their numbers.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 7:50am On Jan 28|
The highest level of faith
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by EdifiedHebrew: 4:55pm On Jan 28|
MuttleyLaff:I told you that I keep His laws, statutes, commandments & Judgments. showing love to others , is it not part of keeping his COMMANDMENTS & LAWS? EXODUS 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,
2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not kill.
14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
15 Thou shalt not steal.
16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
MATTHEW 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
The meat is too strong for you to chew HEBREWS 5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
It means that you don't even know the question you asked me. Please go and check the question again or throw another question.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by EdifiedHebrew: 5:11pm On Jan 28|
ROMANS 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Those who don't wish to keep the LAWS, COMMANDMENTS, STATUTES & BALANCED JUDGMENTS, how are they going to enter into the kingdom of ELOHIM ? please i want to learn teach me.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:56pm On Jan 28|
It is grave injustice to oneself not to read scripture in it proper context. This was a letter written by Paul to the young believer's in Rome. This is a letter of the Goodnews of how God has made us right himself not through our obedience to the law, that we cannot even obey perfectly but through his Son Jesus Christ.
It is the truth that those who obey the law to the letter shall be justified. But who is that man or woman that can boldly declare that he is not a transgressor of the law? Show me a man who says he fully follows all that that is written in the law without fail and I will show you a liar.
The scripture declares all man a transgressor of the high and lofty standard of God and therefore in need of grace. The law can never make people right with God because people cannot cannot keep it perfectly without missing the mark.
Apostle Paul was explaining the law and how people who obey it are justified by it. No matter how good your intentions is to keep the law, you just can't. Justification through Jesus Christ by faith is the power of God unto salvation and right living. Justification cannot be attained through the law. It is impossible!
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by EdifiedHebrew: 10:24am On Jan 29|
Please teach me, what will i do to get enternal life? Please go straight to the points by precepts upon precepts, lines upon lines, here a little and there a little. ISAIAH 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
REVELATION 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.
4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
PLEASE WHAT IS THE FIRST LOVE? Revelation 2:4
PLEASE WHAT ARE THE FIRST WORKS? Revelation 2:5
REVELATION 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
PLEASE WHY EVERYBODY WILL BE JUDGED OUT OF THOSE THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE ?
PLEASE WHERE CAN WE FIND THE THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE , OLD & NEW OR ONLY NEW TESTAMENT?
HEBREWS 5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, [color=#990000]ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
PLEASE WHAT ARE THE FIRST PRINCIPLES OF THE ORACLES OF ELOHIM?
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:47pm On Jan 29|
Acts 16:31 And they replied "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved, you and your household." Amen.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by EdifiedHebrew: 9:34pm On Jan 29|
How do you proof to Yahawashi Hamasciach that you believe in him?
1 JOHN 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
1 JOHN3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1 JOHN 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
JAMES 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
ROMANS 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
2 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
ROMANS 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
BARUCH 4:1 This is the Book of the commandements of God: and the Law that endureth for euer: all they that keepe it shall come to life: but such as leaue it, shall die.
PROVERBS 19:16 He that keepeth the commandment keepeth his own soul; but he that despiseth his ways shall die.
REVELATION 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
PROVERBS 8:33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
JOHN 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
JOHN 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
1 JOHN 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by MuttleyLaff: 4:44am On Jan 30|
EdifiedHebrew:You keeping his COMMANDMENTS & LAWS, doesnt necessarily means you showing love to others and/or it being part of the COMMANDMENTS & LAWS you keep. If it was, it would have featured in your mention but it didnt
Please go and check Matthew 19:13-26, to see that your remarks were exactly similar, if not the same with the remark the young rich ruler gave. Do you now, see what is missing in your replies? Do you see that what is lacking in the replies, can cost one inheriting eternal life?
I repeat, you are too much in love with yourself, that you dont see others to mention about, that you've shown love to, given love and compassion to, and that's why and how you gave a typical "young ruler" reply to the question bloodofthelamb asked you, but then the thing about the truth is, not a lot of people can handle it. Not a lot of people want to face truth and that could cost one inheriting eternal life.
Empathy and compassion is missing. Your replies centred on yourself, your replies focused on achievements revolved round your personal accomplishments. There wasnt a single other human well-being relational factor, it was all about you, it was "I don't observe this...", I don't observe that..." I don't observe this and that..." and I don't observe etcetera..." You are the star of your achievements
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 11:45am On Feb 02|
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 7:30am On Feb 03|
Once more time.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 7:51am On Feb 04|
I can't you!
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 7:04am On Feb 05|
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by Crysthaniel(m): 8:16am On Feb 05|
Actually a true Christan disciple is a righteous Christian as for my opinion
Both go hand in hand just as velocity and acceleration..
You know a decrease in velocity equals a change in acceleration
So a decrease in my righteousness means am beginning to lose my discipleship ..
Am under grace doesn't make me not to comply with the 'terms and conditions' of the giver..
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 7:44am On Feb 06|
Gaskiya ne walahi!
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jcross19: 1:06pm On Feb 06|
jesusjnr:is it the same disciple that goes about with sword in his pocket or the one playing double standard with Jews and gentile that was rebuked by Paul? fanaticism can't help just ask for holy spirit to help you.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 1:19pm On Feb 06|
jcross19:Coming from someone whose holy spirit, master, lord, god and everything is Paul Lol!
A ironic case of the blind trying to show someone who can see the way.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jcross19: 3:05pm On Feb 06|
jesusjnr:wonderful!!! I can sense the Christian you are, self righteous fella and yeah I can see that you can see .I pity you.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jcross19: 3:08pm On Feb 06|
jesusjnr:you know nothing about that bible you carry just ask for holy spirit.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 3:17pm On Feb 06|
jcross19:Thank you very much, Mr Paul is Lord!
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jcross19: 3:23pm On Feb 06|
jesusjnr:we know your type.
|Re: A True Jesus' Disciple Is Better Than A Righteous Christian by jesusjnr(m): 3:25pm On Feb 06|
jcross19:Good riddance to the knowledge of a Paul worshipper
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