KunleOshob:

^^^
Pastors can be changed or discarded, parents are divine and unchangeable.your parents are determined by God, you choose your pastor yourself based on human influence. Who has more spiritual authurity? Go figure!

KunleOshob:

^^^
Pastors can be changed or discarded, parents are divine and unchangeable.your parents are determined by God, you choose your pastor yourself based on human influence. Who has more spiritual authurity? Go figure!

KunleOshob:

By divine design children are placed under the authority of their parents and their parents(in most cases) genuinely love an d care for them, they bless their children with material and spiritual needs and would even sacrofice their lives for their children.

I'll stop now, I don pioneer am  !

KunleOshob:

On the other hand most pastors are only interested in their pockets and would never lift a finger to bless you materially, they claim to bless you "spiritually" whilst they you to "pay" them for their services materially. Simply there is no basis for comparision, would stick to my parents anyday, at least I am sure their love and care is genuine.

newmi:

perhaps l should be more specific in terms of context, in the case of a wedding service,
who is more rightly positioned to pronounce the blessing on the newly wed couples.

Well since the institution of marriage is the brain child of God, thus the "man of God" as a representative of the author (God) is much more rightly positioned to pronounce the blessing. l would find time to expantiate in a later post with details.

aletheia:

^^So before "pastors" and MOG showed up, how did weddings get done?

TV01:

I knew a topic of this type would smoke certain people out !

@Joagbaje, I have asked you several questions now, all of which you have failed to reply. Please surprise me in this instance.

Regards "Spiritual Authority", please explain - however briefly or however long - its working, how it is exercised, how one subjects oneself to it and more pressingly, its specific place in Christianity
Tv
Thanks

But if you are asking who has more spiritual authority [/b]over the other, it is the pastor

Okija_juju:

As an Alternative Medicine Practitioner, I will answer this question as best I can;

The correct answer is simply your parents. Not your Pastor, but your Parents. Its like kunleoshobb rightly said, your pastors are a product of external influences, your parents are a product of blood and divine mandate. The gods do not recognize any other person as your spiritual guardians but your parents, thats why if your parents should curse you, you are cursed indeed just like if they should pronounce a blessing on you, you are truly blessed.

In a marriage situation, a pastor is allowed to pray for the couples and wish them the best in their marital life, but the parents of both couples are actually the ones supposed to lay hands on the couples and bless them,

Joagbaje:

@ tv01
I didn't remember that you were quoting my earlier post, I thought you were just asking in general based on my numerous posts.
We can't deny the authority the parents have over the children, but at the same time , we must recognize , their authority has limits.
1. When they reach the age of accountability.
2. When the parents take a stand against the word of God.
When a man is born again, he's Gods property, there's God purpose to fulfil. The person that has spiritual authority to bless them is the pastor. The parents have parental authority for a period in their lives, but the pastors spiritual authority to bless supersedes the parental . If parents are not born again, they have no blessing to offer a Christian . Because there's a rule in blessing. You can't bless your senior! The lesser person is blessed by the greater person.
Heb 7:7
The less is blessed of the better.

Joagbaje:

That's If you are are unsaved.

parental authority is not spiritual authority. But pastoral authority is spiritual.
How many pastors in Nigeria are actually saved or born-again? That is the question that begs for an answer,,If marriage is based on ur definition,,why was it in about 2 parishes of RCCG last year,,,within a year marriage contracted got divorced,,,or why is it that after the elders came together to rejoice with Pastor Ighodalo and got all the so called spiritual blessings from all the pastors and GO's,,,,and just 2yrs in his wedding,,,he was asked to either quit the marriage or quit the church?,,,is it that all the men of God that graced his wedding were not born again enough or not spiritual enough to know that he was married and divorced b4,,,a story everybody knew about him,,,
YOU MUST stop spiritualising and indoctrinating people because the wrath of God shall befall you and ur likes who have brought the name of God to disrepute,,,
How can any sane person call the criminals in Nigeria men of God,,

Rhino.3dm:

^^^ is that your own personal view? If you cant support it with a scripture then tag it with IMO.

Isaac blessing his son Jacob:
Gen 27:26-27

26 And his father Isaac said unto him, Come near now, and kiss me, my son.

27 And he came near, and kissed him: and he smelled the smell of his raiment, and blessed him, and said, See, the smell of my son is as the smell of a field which the LORD hath blessed:
KJV

Isaac blessing Jacob: Gen 27:10

10 And thou shalt bring it to thy father, that he may eat, and that he may bless thee before his death.
KJV

Joseph's children being blessed by Isreal Josephs father:
Gen 48:9

9 And Joseph said unto his father, They are my sons, whom God hath given me in this place. And he said, Bring them, I pray thee, unto me, and I will bless them.
KJV