Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 2:43am On Aug 23, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: exactly ! I accept I am close-minded on that but you claim to be open minded while you are intransigent about a non interventionist creator.
Do you see it ? If no , let me explain
You can't claim to be open minded and reject any evidence refuting your views about a non interventionist creator . And you surmise that your decision is rational because ? Conjectural conclusions are not worth anyone's attention  I have always addressed this, but u keep bringing it up. When we started discussing on the other thread, i told u like 5 times that what "i was not making any assertions of things i cant comprehend", i only gave u my opinions, and since you've asking me questions based on what "i think". So what's with the portrayal of me being obstinate. I have also told u this when you brought it up on J.ohnnydon's thread, I said the same thing, then u agreed. So what's the point of this hokum. |
Christianity Etc › Re: You Need To Hear This. by 4kings: 2:31am On Aug 23, 2016 |
FBLJ: GOD IS not DEAD. Where is he? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 2:23am On Aug 23, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: The joke is on you . You've never considered any other idea outside christendom, how tf is the joke on me. Baba park well. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 2:20am On Aug 23, 2016 |
[quote author=KingEbukasBlog post=48720850]Prove it [/qoute] If you know this: Stop being excited over nothing . Lots of Christians know about the sub conscious mind and are still believers . What else do u want me to prove. It seems you enjoy arguing. A nairalander took a Muslim man who was crippled from birth to one of my church's crusades and the man started walking and all you could come up with was "placebo"
1. There is no proof that it was placebo There is no proof that event took place. 2. Placebo is used for palliating symptoms of diseases Stop lying 3. It does not work on everyone
4 It works mostly on diseases that are incipient and not ab incunabulis The effect of placebo is one that is yet to be fully understood just like evolution. So why it works on one and not the other is inconclusive. But it has to do with the degree at which one yields to it(susceptibility or church faith  ) But Gnostics, Kundalini, Chi energy, and so on, all talk about the same basic principle for an extraordinary event to take place, and still to them its just a philosophy and not a religion per se. You can search for the Medicineless School in Beijing and tell me what you think. I can list a thousand and one reasons why you are wrong but still you'd be obdurate - so I let you be with your delusion . You seem happy and excited about it  Please do, if u think I'm wrong, then I would appreciate a correction. If only what u say can be subjected to scrutiny. Moments ago you clearly stated that you were not certain  What don't u understand? I said i am certain an intelligent being made this universe, but I can't say for sure that he still exist, I only think that way. So what don't you get, your question was on his EXISTENCE right? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 1:52am On Aug 23, 2016 |
thesicilian: lol. Who is a free thinker? A free thinker is one who has not yet found his feet. Much like a passenger on a bus yet to reach his destination. Fact is, every thing is 'explainable' . Even when you walk on water, people who weren't there would think there were rocks under the water you were stepping on. If everything is explainable according to u, what are the odds of yours being supernatural? ****** The idea behind freethinking is being openminded, and accepting issues based on reason or experience. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 1:37am On Aug 23, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Like the ones you have inundated this thread with . Considering that your findings about this enigmatic sub conscious mind have not indurated your reasons to believe in God why do you think its refutes anything  You would agree with me that some of the seemingly supernatural occurrence can be explained by understanding the workings of the subconscious. But you would always disagree when it comes to "Church" or "Pastor". If u are not open to the "possibility" of natural occurrence or fraud, then this particular discussion will always be frustrated. You are not even certain your god exists  I am certain that an intelligent being created this universe. I think he is alive. But I cannot be dogmatic about my claim, cos he doesn't talk to me like your holyspirit. See ? Close your eyes.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Afflicted With Cancer Of Breast And Vagina, But Jesus Healed Me In Chosen by 4kings: 1:24am On Aug 23, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: My proof is the myriad of testimonies . Yours is incoherent gibberish about the sub conscious mind  What proof. Then would u believe a mermaid just approached and said she is engaged to you in the spiritual realm?. True talk, she is here right now. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 1:21am On Aug 23, 2016 |
thesicilian: How do you define convincing? As long as you were not there its still going to sound suspicious to you, isn't it? Well, from your example, u did not know what went on with the patient u left and the mad man scenario is explainable. If you tell me something out of the ordinary that u witnessed yourself, then atleast I would consider it. I am not an atheist but a freethinker, I consider all options. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 1:15am On Aug 23, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: That's why you kept making daft claims from what you read about the subconscious mind and Christian gnoticism - you are so easily inveigled :p Claims like.........? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Afflicted With Cancer Of Breast And Vagina, But Jesus Healed Me In Chosen by 4kings: 1:13am On Aug 23, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: How does it stop it from being the real deal  The Real LIE |
Christianity Etc › Re: Afflicted With Cancer Of Breast And Vagina, But Jesus Healed Me In Chosen by 4kings: 1:00am On Aug 23, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: [size=14pt]The REAL DEAL[/size] Any body can come out and say that.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 12:54am On Aug 23, 2016 |
thesicilian: None taken.
No sir, I must assure you, I know what I am talking about. Agreed, a lot of tricksters exist among us, and those who are enlightened will not easily be swayed by the antics of these people. I was at a time of a similar mindset as you currently are, until I began to see some if these things. For so many of them I desperately wanted to believe they were coincidental, but they just weren't. I could tell you lots and lots of others, but its always better for you to experience them yourself. Can u state one that is very convincing. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 12:35am On Aug 23, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: like ? What do u mean by "like"  I don't know, anything reasonable. |
Forum Games › Re: Brain Teaser by 4kings: 12:30am On Aug 23, 2016 |
annnikky: 4: Afghanistan.... Najibullah Ahmadzai, Mohammad Ohh, I get. Wish I can figure the rest. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Coup In Turkey And The Apotheosis Of Satan by 4kings: 12:22am On Aug 23, 2016 |
So u believe that the Coup was the making of your "All loving" God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 12:18am On Aug 23, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: So apparently you made a tentative conclusion ? What would make you impugn your stance on God's existence ? Irrefutable proof.  |
Forum Games › Re: Brain Teaser by 4kings: 12:04am On Aug 23, 2016 |
annnikky: Hahahahaha Should i change it? Just give us a clue on how to get the answer. I looked at No.9 and I saw cricket ball and bat, and hands I guess for Muslims. Are the emoticons describing the president or his country? Pleaseeeeeeeeee!!! |
Forum Games › Re: Brain Teaser by 4kings: 11:57pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
annnikky: 9: Bangladesh..... Hamid Abdul Haba!!!! That's difficult na |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 11:54pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Lol .
so let's continue
Are you 100 percent certain that indeed a conscious supernatural creator exists ? Nope |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 11:51pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
thesicilian: Unfortunately, I am one of them. Oopss, [no offense!!!] A lot of what I have shared with you are from personal experience, not hearsay. I saw them live. When you get to experience them, you'll understand. And yes, I am also very well enlightened. Why is this case only common in this part of the world? From someone's comment in the first page, we can see that most people actually believe tricksters, due a certain level of "Spiritual" influence. So have you ever considered the possibility that you MIGHT have judged the case wrongly? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 11:28pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Nobody really bothers or breaks a sweat over hardmirror anymore especially since all he has to offer is personal hatred for anything and everything good. He is now the complete opposite in character from when he claimed he was a pastor which even that claim has come with absolutely zero proof....
I came and viewed the OP and saw its normal predictable content and just ignored it.
He believes nothing Of God is real. ..we believe it is Real...
He believes the supernatural is crap
We believe it is not but in all that God trumpts the rest
He believes that he was a fake pastor even when he claimed to be a pastor
Personally I concur because i have seen many fake pastors like him too...so no biggy
I do not really engage in all topics as I carefully assess that which is worth my time and intellectual contribution. ....no be by force
Bottom line. ...Life is all about Choices...you can choose to board a jet to europe or you can choose to brave the sea to enter as an illegal immigrant....All in all there is always a law governing both scenarios and the punishment does not change for anyone.
Nice thread OP...as you have succeeded in showing once again that your issues are personal and have nothing to do with God....fix your car and finish your journey in comfort....you were given a vessel that is not perfect but able to go through maintenance (if u so choose) it does not become the fault of the manufacturer when you abuse the vessel and still expect it to produce same result..... if you prayed and attempted casting out demons and it never worked then you up and declare a eureka moment that God is false then that is your problem because with every false prophet we see many real ones.
Your case is like that of a fly who thought itself strong and better than man simply because it has wings so decided to mock man at every turn because it just became a fly so the experience is new...older flies keep warning it via experience but it refuses to heed.....
Enjoy your fly moment while it lasts......Since you claim to be an ex pastor then you can help me with finishing my analogy...
The OP or anyone else should not quote me..
Ebuka my brother....life na choice...no be person wey gree say the thing wey dey the side of his head na ear na him go hear? Even person wey gree go still decide to use hand block am so e no go hear....Abi u don see where stone use im own hand baf before? Or where sand use im own leg change location from lagos to abuja?
My brother the bible has said it all...Let He that has an ear, hear what the spirit is saying.....
Goodnight! ...Bottom line: you did not even address any point in the OP. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 11:25pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Nope . I won't its the second page , close to 200 views - so its not worth it . What's your p with the views. Just share your knowledge to correct my ignorance, so that I won't embarrass myself outside. Except you CAN'T  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 11:18pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: One God different concepts . I just have to prove which is the right one You can't prove yours is the right one. So I guess you probably might be "Delusional".  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 11:04pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 10:55pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
raphieMontella: that i am delusional nd u serve the right god Kingebukasblog, you better prove this or NEVER use the word "Delusion" or any word that involves "Understanding" to refer to the non-christians.  |
Romance › Re: Welcome Me Friends, Am New Here by 4kings: 10:46pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
Happy Birthday!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 10:34pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
efismikoko: . My Exact taught on the man that his skin got ripped apart ,,,,,you get plenty sense bro Thanks bro  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 10:33pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Hardly any intellectual debate on any thread created by the owner of this thread .
The obsession continues Mr. Cop-Out  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are People So Easy To Fool? You dare call Atheists FOOLs?! by 4kings: 9:55pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
thesicilian: typing. a minute pls.. *** Like I said, the world is spiritual, much more spiritual than physical. Take the human body for example. What is the difference between a dead man and a live man? How come the dead man still has his organs - eyes, heart, kidneys, brain etc but can no longer function? Because that part that is invisible, the spirit and the soul, has left him. We can't "prove" the spirit or soul exist, but we all know and believe they are there. Why? because we see the effect, and what happens when you take them away. *** The same way a perfectly working light bulb will not come on unless there is electricity. We can feel the effect of electricity, but we cant see it. But we know they are there. *** When the heart stops; death comes, not spirit leaving the body. If it was so, the "spirit" would not be affected by bodily diseases. Now let me take your points one by one and tell you of personal encounters: Miracles - I have seen with my own eyes countless miracles. I once saw well known a mad man on the streets receive his healing after being prayed for by a pastor. That depends on the mental state. Even psychological manipulations[Placebos], have been used to cure this kind. I have also seen a little girl being exorcised of terrible demons. HardMirror has addressed this. [Its just mental condition] Check anti-nmda encephalitis. African bullet proof/Satanist - Now as for bullets I haven't seen. But my own personal experience with a "traditional worshipper" is this: I once had a man who was injured in am accident. He fell of his motorcycle and sustained deep cuts on his leg that needed to be repaired/sewn/stitched in the hospital. Now here is the part that was a little ironic: When he fell, his skin was torn. But when it was time to stitch his leg with a needle, no needle could penetrate. In the end he ordered us all out of the room, nobody knows what he did but when he called us back in minutes later, we were able to stitch with ease and stop the bleeding... I myself may not have believed if I was told. Till today its the only case I have seen. *** So this man's skin was ripped apart by the intense collision with the road or any other object, but a tiny needle could not penetrate. If your story is true, something definitely was odd, but it was not spiritual; else he wouldn't need to be healed by "mere mortals". There are many things that are beyond our comprehension, and it will only show a great lack of wisdom to try to explain it in physical terms. A man threatens to deal with his neighbor, days later the neighbour ends up with a stroke. All investigation in the hospital proves the man is 'perfectly normal'. But this man is dying of a stroke. No drug is working. Then he gets prayed for by a pastor and he's back on his feet at that instant. And you say you don't believe in the spiritual? This is "Nollywood/Africa Magic".  If truly, a man(let's say he is abroad) is "dying" and no medical condition or irregularity in the body system is identified, it would be "the eight wonder if the world".  . Don't mind our superstitious and lazy doctors here. *********** About your other statement; "Coincidence" happens.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Ask An European Atheist by 4kings: 6:55pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: I don't understand what you are saying. Never mind. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 6:33pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Leave him to his delusion , he feels its rational thinking and he is convinced that he is making sense . Says the Man who believe in talking snakes and donkeys.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Have Any Questions About God , The Bible Or Christianity? Bring Them Here by 4kings: 6:29pm On Aug 22, 2016 |
JMAN05: Why do u say other authors wrote them? Writing a very similar story is not a good point. We can often see newspapers writing similar stories. And when something of significance happen in a person's life, its understandable why there would be a similar story. and the writers were also guided by holy spirit.
The "Q source" is a howler.
You now cherrypicking. Why not respond one by one as we do before?
What they say about Paul's writings are false. His books are OK and accepted by many early Christians.
There many other things that Paul didn't talk about. Any writer writes with a purpose, he must not cover everything. Paul is using the events in Abraham's life to show a prophetic picture. It doesn't mean that they never existed.
Jesus didn't exist as the being I know. Well, its interesting you are not saying he didn't exist at all. No? So he existed as who? Byeee, I told u I don't want to argue any further. Believe what u want  |