citizenY:


Please prove that the narrative is one sided. No bring any "high sense " here. Let us hear your side.

FortuneDeGreat:
You mean the most educated thugs and skull miners?

FortuneDeGreat:
To start with, the heading says it all.

A crap concocted to malign Igbo leadership from ancient times.

A narrative riddled with malicious calumniation of Igbo race.

A piece meant to demonize the Igbos and put them in a position of blame for all the ills that have befallen Nigeria.

Against all storm, all hatred and all castigation we march on triumphantly, untamed and unstoppable en route to greatness.

Enemies please do the needful. Embrace an electric transformer or jump right into a lagoon. I care more for a dead ant �

FortuneDeGreat:
To start with, the heading says it all.

A crap concocted to malign Igbo leadership from ancient times.

A narrative riddled with malicious calumniation of Igbo race.

A piece meant to demonize the Igbos and put them in a position of blame for all the ills that have befallen Nigeria.

Against all storm, all hatred and all castigation we march on triumphantly, untamed and unstoppable en route to greatness.

Enemies please do the needful. Embrace an electric transformer or jump right into a lagoon. I care more for a dead ant �

Nigerians eat and breathe hypocrisy. The title of this thread is How Igbo leaders caused Nigerias current national problems

They said Zik was for "one Nigeria" but the same people will ask for Kanu's head if he asks for referendum. They shout "one Nigeria" even more than Zik did

They are trying to blame Igbos for Nigerians problems but an Igbo man has not led Nigeria in 52 years. They have had power for 52 years but they still blame Igbos. They said Igbos conducted a coup but these people kept conducting one coup or the other throughout the 60's,70's, 80's and 90's. Some of their own coups were far more bloody than the one they accused Igbos of.

They said Ironsi introduced unitary rule, but these same people are the ones who took the 4 Regions Ironsi governed with and kept sub-dividing it until we ended up with 36 states, thereby making Nigeria far more unitary than Ironsi ever did. Ironsi was only in power for 6 months.

Yorubas and Northerners have ruled for majority of the last 52 years but they have done far worse than Igbos ever did, and on top of that, they keep blaming Igbos for where Nigeria is today.

People should stop this hypocrisy. People who have logs in their eye should not be calling out those with specs of wood in their own

schoolboij:


You are just too dumb for your own good. The igbos filled every position because of their tribalism. Yorubas were the most educated but zik was appointing only igbos in Yoruba universities because Yorubas were in opposition.


Igbos have always been in government while Yoruba were in opposition. An igboman was VP just nine years after the war. The CBN governor under abacha that looted billions of dollars was an igbo man. He was just in the news today. So igbos have always been in top positions in government.

McStoic:


You are a poster boy of self righteousness with hypocrisy. Assuming you are right about Igbos filling top posts because of tribalism, the question now bedevilling your submission goes: DID THEY PERFORM UP TO EXPECTATIONS? WERE THEY ROUND PEGS IN ROUND HOLES? Answer this or shut up.

So if we blame those who laid the precedent of coup plotting will that be unreasonable? If they hadn't put the idea in the mind of the military, if they hadn't given the military sharks a taste of blood they wouldn't have gotten used to the taste of blood. Despite the struggles India has gone through politically, never once did the military step in to take control of government. So yes, we blame the first set of people who introduced military coup d'etat into Nigeria's lexicon. This post is to see where the rain started beating us.

Absolutely. The first division into states was done to end the civil war started by the Igbo. I haven't seen where the Igbo have kicked against creation of states after all you have 5 states and last I heard you guys are clamouring for a 6th for equality with the other zones. Besides how does division into states make the Nigerian entity more unitary anyway?

So the Igbos have never taken any high political post since 1960? Lol. Lemme guess, there are no Igbo governors and legislators as we speak? You might want to check the major roles given to the Igbo in the Jonathan's government where an Igbo woman was given the post of prime minister in the government of the dull Jonathan. Go online and Google the number of Igbo who have held the leadership of the Senate since 1999. You'll see names like China Okadigbo, Evans Enwerem etc. Keep playing victim. It suits you well.

Read the post again. It is part of Nigeria's history. If you can find any wrong detail about it, show us with proof. That's all. Those who read it should judge whether the players and actors indeed have any footing today to scream and wail for a republic of their own after fighting it tenuously. Karma!

Yyeske:
I guess it is time history is reintroduced in our schools for people to understand how we ended up in the pit we are in, we Igbos must accept the fact that our forebears contributed to it all.
Azikiwe insisted on one Nigeria when northern leaders wanted a de-amalgamation of the country.
He resisted the secession clause as proposed by Awolowo and Enahoro,
Formed a government with the north instead of the west,
The casualties in the 1966 coup was obviously one sided,
Ironsi not executing the coup plotters,
He signed into law the unitary decree,
He in conjunction with Ojukwu squashed the dream of the Niger Delta republic, he equally signed the anti secession decree,
Ojukwu educated enough to know the law still went ahead to seceed without adequate preparation, weapons or even allies and wasted millions of souls.
Let us admit it, our forebears contributed to it all.

schoolboij:


They destroyed the fibre of the nation. Buhari is doing the same thing today And igbos are crying.

Btw, they did a terrible job. They laid the groundwork for the redundancy and uselessness of our civil service today.

FortuneDeGreat:
To start with, the heading says it all.

A crap concocted to malign Igbo leadership from ancient times.

A narrative riddled with malicious calumniation of Igbo race.

A piece meant to demonize the Igbos and put them in a position of blame for all the ills that have befallen Nigeria.

Against all storm, all hatred and all castigation we march on triumphantly, untamed and unstoppable en route to greatness.

Enemies please do the needful. Embrace an electric transformer or jump right into a lagoon. I care more for a dead ant �

schoolboij:



No where in the article says benue state was part of SE. You are just a dimwit.

SuperIgbo1:


You're a retardedd cretin!

You don't know South East is different from the former Eastern Nigeria?

McStoic:


And you lot have not been able to do it better with longer years at the top positions? Why do i have this feeling that i am joining issues with a small boy!? I don't even need your double faced opinions on the long run, cos you guys are impossible. I won't be replying further mentions from you on this.

schoolboij:


Foolish ape! Show me where the article states that benue was part of former eastern Nigeria.

SuperIgbo1:


You're a retardedd cretin.

You can't read, now you want me to help you?

cute9ja:
By Folorunsho Kuku

In this piece, historical facts helps to dispel many of the false claims about how the Igbos have been unfairly treated over the course of the years within Nigeria and instead throws light on how the decision of their elites, knowingly or unknowingly, brought thrust Nigeria into its current abysmal state.

Claim 1
Igbos claim to have always been cheated out of juicy positions in Nigeria thus the clamour for regional and political restructuring where they are unable to secede from Nigeria.

The Fact 1.1
While Tafawa Balewa presided as Prime Minister of Nigeria, several positions, now famously considered “juicy”, across the country were led or headed by the South East.

Security Chiefs
1) General Officer Commanding (today’s equivalent of Chief of Army Staff) was
Major General Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi from Umuahia in present day Abia State
(1965 - 1966)
2) IG of Police was Louis Edet from Calabar in present day Cross Rivers State
(1964 – 1966)
Executive & Cabinet Ministers
1) Governor General & First President was Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe was from Enugu
State
2) External Affairs (today’s equivalent of Ministry of Foreign Affairs) Minister was
Jaja Wachukwu from Aba in present day Abia State
3) Education Minister was Aja Nwachukwu from Ebonyi State

Education Leadership
4) First Unilag VC was Professor Eni Njoku from Ohafia, Abia State.
5) First Nigerian Vice Chancellor of University of Ibadan was Professor Kenneth
Dike from Awka in present day Anambra State.

Northern Leaders led by Sardauna Ahmadu Bello however resisted same from occurring at Ahmadu Bello University insisting that the North will prefer to have a foreigner head the school until the North had produced a qualified administrator.

The reason for this was that by the late 50s and early 60s South East dominated the senior ranks of the Northern Civil Service after the British colonial staff rushed to leave the country as agitation for independence grew louder. What is obvious is that as each region attained self-determination, leaders of each ethnicity sought that its people lead or head these institutions located within their regions.

Dissatisfaction of the way the polity was run by politicians across Nigeria culminated in a mutinous coup executed largely by senior ranking South Eastern officers who executed Prime Minister Tafawa Balewa, Sardauna Ahmadu Bello, Brigadier General Maimalari and a host of the crème of the North’s leadership as well as Chief Ladoke Akintola, the Regional Head of the South West region.

The plan of the mutinous soldiers had been in the works since 1964 and Major Nzeogwu gave the instruction that led to mayhem and blood-letting on the morning of January 15, 1966. Reading the details of the main actors involved, it is surprising that they failed to see how skewed those they eliminated largely represented a certain demographic of the growing nation.

Of all the senior ranking officers in Nigeria at the break out of the 1966 coup, there were fifty five (55) officers (officers as at June 1959 are listed below), the SE had thirty seven (37), with the exception of Lt-Colonel Arthur Unegbe (Quartermaster-General of the Nigerian Army when the January 1966 coup broke out) no other Igbo man was killed.

Of the eight ( officers from the North, six (6) were killed while of the ten (10) officers from the South West, two (2) were killed. Note that the Igbo Majors as at 1966 who were the primary brains of the coup did not join the Army until the early 60s and are junior to those listed below.

In an awkward twist of fate and curiously, the headship of the government when the coup failed, fell into the laps of another Igbo officer, J.T. Aguiyi-Ironsi, (being the most senior military officer in the country) despite not being one of the coup plotters. Aguiyi Ironsi with help of a leading legal expert, subsequently imposed a unitary system of government on the country.

SOURCE - http://www.nigerianeye.com/2019/03/the-igbo-elite-and-professionals-and.html

CC: lalasticlala Mynd44 Dominique Seun

ipodstinks:
You are great

Ojoji:
Going by some comments here, I dare say Nigeria is gone so to say. Because we don't want to here the genesis of our present predicament, we play to gallery to defend undefendable because the people mentioned are my or your people.
I could still remember what I read sometimes ago what Awolowo said during his last birthday on earth; it was then I knew this one Nigeria is a joke. It is well known this man never believed on one Nigeria. He said, it is not possible for an Ogbomoso man to reason like Sokoto man. He did what humanly possible to reverse the course of Yoruba's destiny but time was already against him.
I was in Kebbi State sometimes 2011,when I met a man from Plateau State, he was eulogizing Great Zik at expense of Balewa and Awolowo that it was Zik that formed one Nigeria. That Awolowo was only after his region and never cared about other regions especially north. In fact, I stopped him when every negative things were said about Awolowo, you know as a Yoruba man will not be too comfortable with those statements.
Initially, our northern brothers never knew that all what Zik was doing then and Ironsi unification decree later were there favour. But alas! The chicken has come home to roost and things have fallen apart and country Nigeria is for northern Nigeria to enjoy.
We southerners should stop abuse them, they were never our problems and never can they proffer solutions to Nigeria ailments. From the look of things, it is obvious that our eastern and western brothers will continue to trade blames instead of responsibilities in many years to come. Nigeria problems and solutions rest with southerners period.

cute9ja:
Aguiyi Ironsi with help of a leading legal expert, subsequently imposed a unitary system of government on the country.

SOURCE - http://www.nigerianeye.com/2019/03/the-igbo-elite-and-professionals-and.html

CC: lalasticlala Mynd44 Dominique Seun

deomelo:




[b]Zik, before independence and against prudent and cautionary advise and objections by the SW, they, the SE wanted one Nigerian with the North in charge and Zik the figurehead president.

They of course as the usual insatiable people all of a sudden did not like that arrangement and decided to shed blood in the most brutal and sadistic manner, they slaughtered innocent Nigerians via the first ever coup in Nigeria, they literally placed us on a negative and destructive part straight from the beginning.

Their son Aguiyi Ironsi stepped in as the HOS, but instead of normalizing things and heal wounds across Nigeria, he did nothing to the brutal killers and coup plotters when in fact the standard punishment all over the world for such actions is death, but he did not even slap them on the wrist.

After that, he abolished regional administration and introduced what we have today, the unitary system of government, the same unitary system of government that the same ibo people don't want today.[/b]

And of course, the civil and destructive way spearheaded by the same ibo people.

Nigeria made a terrible mistake by not letting have their biafra, it's not too late, give them their biafra because you can not satisfy them with anything and they are too self-destructive to be sane and lawful members of any society.

Any form of association with them is bad business and bad luck because our state of mind, our way of life, our sense of purpose, our sense of direction and belonging are just not the same.

We really must do away with their constant, needless, destructive and unproductive distractions.

cute9ja:
Well if you read the article, you would have gotten the point, the early Igbo leaders failed the Igbo nation (According to the article) while Benue was part of the Southern protectorate and clearly separated from the North from the post-1914 era, when the Eastern region was carved out, prominent Igbo nationalists were busy fighting for political influence in Lagos and Ibadan, instead of them to do same in their territory.

BaaleOko:

At least we can both agree on something, YOUR USELESS NIGERIA MADE A FATAL MISTAKE BY NOT ALLOWING BIAFRA BE IN 1967...now your pained yorubatic subhuman skull will have to live with the pain of seeing all your lands been taken over, your women pimped to the lowest Igbo bidders, your constituencies slowly taken over, and your electorate been diluted by significant Igbo imprints... for as long as Nigeria remains one we will continue tormenting you till you give up and accept the Igbo man's superiority over your degenerate scums.

Infact we just enjoy this ONE NIGERIA together you skull mining bas.tard.

cute9ja:
This is sad sha! - We can never be one if this persists

deomelo:




We are on the same page when it comes to biafra, they made a terrible mistake and they are still making the same mistake.

You don't have anything to offer me or humanity beyond your usual hatred, bitterness, bigotry, sadness, evil, pain and sorrow.

You are just too self-destructive to be lawful and sane members of any society

I say good riddance in advance.

BaaleOko:

Millions of Igbos are in the diaspora doing very well, not the drug mules you idiots always project on the media and are an insignificant minority that taint our collective image...but the brilliant Igbo men and women that impact the societies they live in positively. Igbo kids top almost all the Nigerian ethnic demographics for high acceptance rate into Ivy league schools all over the US(more than any ethnic group), thus assuming the model minorities status with Asian Americans trailing behind, there are thousands of internationally recognized Igbo diplomats in the dispora been elected into key positions of government and agencies, accomplished Igbos in Nigeria who excel anywhere they go, stating from literally little or nothing to building empires, go to Aba and see Igbo ingenuity and entrepreneurship despite been hampered by poor government factors, the average man on Aba is FAR MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN ANY YORUBA... I haven't even mentioned Nnewi where industrialization has taken its finest form, yet without government assistance.

My point is an Igbo man when put together with an average yoruba will always come out the better man if merit was anything to reckon with, that's why we dominate you scums on your own turf, majority of your inland revenues are in the hands of Igbos, commerce on every macro to micro level has been saturated by Igbos, every damn thing we have taken over... So keep hitting your useless cone head on the wall as the Igbo man keeps making you reel in pain, Las Las na lagoon you go end up.

Obviously, Igbos want to be seen in a positive light; indeed, they tell their tall tales of how they are all rich and powerful in order to seem important in other people’s eyes.

Have you ever seen a humble Igbo man who does not present himself as god almighty himself even though he is a starving man? If you listened to these people boast you would think that they are as
powerful as the gods are supposed to be

The sad part of it all is that the Igbo does not realize that he is seen as nothing and instead fancies that other Nigerians see him as he pretends to be: a very important and powerful person!

http://www.igbofocus.com/html/the_igbo_problem_can_be_fixed.html

gidgiddy:


Why just the genesis? What about the last 52 years that Yorubas and their Northern partners have held power? They said Igbos did bad and they are coming to correct the bad, they ended up doing worse. Everthing that Northerners and Yorubas accuse Igbos od doing, they did 50 times worse when they came to power.That's why it does not make any sense.

They said Igbos conducted a coup, they later turned "coup plotting" into A profession and conducted many

They said Ironsi introduced unitary rule, but they came in and kept dividing the 4 Regions Ironsi kept, into 36 states, making Nigeria far more unitary than Ironsi ever made it

They said Zik resisted a secession clause in the constitution, they have had 52 years to add the same law but they will never. But if someone waves a Biafran flag in the East, they will call for the Python to come and dance


Everything they accuse Igbos of doing, they did 50 times worse

gidgiddy:


This is stupid talk. It is like saying that Adam and Eve should be blamed for sin because sin started with them. It's l8ke saying that the write brothers should be blamed for all airplane crashes because the invented the first Airplane.

If those who took over from Igbos turned around to do far worse than Igbos, then Igbos should not be the focus. In the last 52 years, these same people have wrecked Nigeria to the extent that Nigeria's best times was when Igbos were in charge.

Igbos wanted their freedom, and thats why they fought. Nigeria once wanted their own freedom from Britain, they still celebrate that freedom every 1st October. The only reason Nigeria didn't fight a war for its freedom is because the British are civilised people who know It is wrong to hold people against their will. The only reason Igbos had to fight a war is that Nigerians are not civilised like the British to realise it is wrong to hold people.

The Yorubas and their Northern cronies have been ruling Nigeria for 52 years. Nigeria has not moved foward, we are more backwards, more tribalised, more ethnic biased and more divided. Yet someone is still talking about what Igbos did or didn't do over 50 years ago? Very laughable

Sirheny007:


I am trying as hard as i can to to be impartial.
But anyone blaming the Igbos for 'digging the pit' is a product of a hate system and propaganda.
True, Igbos may have gotten some things wrong in the past as history has revealed. But i still believe that they have done more for this Nation than any other tribe! They have been sidelined in the scheme of things for those 52 years, but look who's behind in overall welfare?

No matter how you look at it, Pre or post independence,
The North is,was and will always be the architect who dug that pit.