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Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by RevenGeMission: 9:43am On Mar 18
grin. I watched this 3 years ago on science section of tomo news, this plane is possible to build, I think a Japanese company already took the challenge.


It'd be a life saver

I also saw the bed/safe house on same channel


It's like a bed but during severe earthquake, it drops down to your basement, covers you, there's food for a week and drinks. I forgot the name but I bet you get the idea







GloryIsaac:
Basically, it's clear that parachute for each passenger won't happen, the reasons are too much as you've rightly explained.

I saw an explanatory video about a new type of plane that would be designed to have some sort of demarcation between the passenger cabin and the cockpit. It will be able to detach from the cockpit and the wings in an emergency situation and engage in a free fall for a little time before two very large parachutes are automatically deployed to give It balance and drastically reduce it's impact on the ground or water. Also it will have large floaters deployed below it that can land on the ground and on water.
But, the challenge with this plane is if there'll be strong maintenance on the hooks that will hold the body of the plane to the cockpit and its wings, and an avoidance of a situation where the hooks fail to detach from the cockpit and wings.

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For the sake of multiple concerns about the lives of the pilots, it should be made clear that they are expected to evacuate the cockpit before detachment. It could be by ejection or most likely having to join the passenger cabin before hitting 'detach'.

So, to any pilot reading this, your life also matters, no one is leaving you behind. wink

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Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by JOMAX: 10:31am On Mar 18
Daeylar:
This is much better, I just hope the pilots would be able to make it in time to the passenger cabin



it is unethical for a Captain to abandon ship with passengers aboard. He is always the last man to disembark. This case is even better as it gives him the opportunity to calm and guide the passengers while setting off other protocols for emergency help or rescue operation. Sometimes tracking and rescue could take beyond 24hours depending on location and conditions
Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by princfred(m): 10:41am On Mar 18
JOMAX:

it is unethical for a Captain to abandon ship with passengers aboard. He is always the last man to disembark. This case is even better as it gives him the opportunity to calm and guide the passengers while setting off other protocols for emergency help or rescue operation. Sometimes tracking and rescue could take beyond 24hours depending on location and conditions
Tracking and rescue shouldn't be a big deal if lives are saved. Afterall crashed planes are already being tracked. Moreso, the passenger capsule can have its own SOS trackable devices.

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Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by princfred(m): 10:47am On Mar 18
GloryIsaac:
Basically, it's clear that parachute for each passenger won't happen, the reasons are too much as you've rightly explained.

I saw an explanatory video about a new type of plane that would be designed to have some sort of demarcation between the passenger cabin and the cockpit. It will be able to detach from the cockpit and the wings in an emergency situation and engage in a free fall for a little time before two very large parachutes are automatically deployed to give It balance and drastically reduce it's impact on the ground or water. Also it will have large floaters deployed below it that can land on the ground and on water.
But, the challenge with this plane is if there'll be strong maintenance on the hooks that will hold the body of the plane to the cockpit and its wings, and an avoidance of a situation where the hooks fail to detach from the cockpit and wings.

modified

For the sake of multiple concerns about the lives of the pilots, it should be made clear that they are expected to evacuate the cockpit before detachment. It could be by ejection or most likely having to join the passenger cabin before hitting 'detach'.

So, to any pilot reading this, your life also matters, no one is leaving you behind. wink
To improve efficiency and reduce weight on hooks, divided (2 or 3 separate segments) passenger capsule each with its parachute systems ( hooks and all) or mini emergency float (Control descent) engine in each segment/separate capsule

Big guns in aviation or .........monitoring or by proxy can get this info and implement .

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Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by GloryIsaac: 11:36am On Mar 18
RevenGeMission:
grin. I watched this 3 years ago on science section of tomo news, this plane is possible to build, I think a Japanese company already took the challenge.


It'd be a life saver

I also saw the bed/safe house on same channel


It's like a bed but during severe earthquake, it drops down to your basement, covers you, there's food for a week and drinks. I forgot the name but I bet you get the idea








The plane will definitely be built as options are limited, and this solution can actually be made manual so as to avoid transmission failure.

As for the earthquake bed, there are too many uncertainties in it, so i don't support it.
Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by MChaze25(m): 12:19pm On Mar 18
Smily202:
Nice info from Explorer. The only solution to saving lives during crash is to install the plane with Whole Plane Parachutes that's the only way It May Save Lives It's work in progress and the practice has already been done in smaller planes that carried 5 passengers. So they wanna replicate it on bigger commercial planes that carry over 200 people on board.
You dont get it.
A burning plane with failed system will burn down your mumu parachute that you installed all around it.
Another fact is that the speed of free fall will never allow the parachute to have a stable fall.

That clip is very necessary to separate the wings and the pilot chambers.
Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by Goahead(m): 1:25pm On Mar 18
My little contribution is, manufacturers should make the roof of commercial airplanes convertible and ejectable seats that can be deployed simultaneously. In this case, two or three rows of seats can share a single parachute, reducing the overall cost/weight and isolophobia.
Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by Originalsly: 1:38pm On Mar 18
papaejima1:



Also, the argument about height/altitude is nonsense. Aircrafts don't crash at 30,000 feet! They crash on the ground! Every aircraft must fall to a safe altitude for people to jump out before getting to the ground no matter how high it flies.


I do like your reasoning..... and really wherever someone ends up they can be located by GPS...that shouldn't be an issue. Now the part quoted... that's where the whole parachute thing would not be effective. Parachutes for individuals...or for the entire cabin section (which I like better)... need to be deployed at a certain height. Since planes usually go into distress during take off and landing...they will not be at the height for parachutes to be effective.
I was going to make the point that passengers bailing out at 30K to 38K feet will have breathing, pressure, hypothermia problems...but like you said... emergencies will not require a bailout at such heights. But then.... parachutes for the fat ones?...babies?...how will that work? More reasons why I'll prefer the cabin option...but.... all this be NL armchair brainstorming!
Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by DeRay98(m): 4:34pm On Mar 18
Very educative.
Thank you Op.

[1quote author=Explorers post=76733022]Skydives are pre-planned.


An important thing to remember about skydiving is that it occurs under perfectly normal conditions.

Since the jumps are pre-planned, the skydiver knows well in advance that they are going to jump out of a moving airplane.

In contrast, passengers onboard airplanes would never know in advance that they might have to take the leap in the next few minutes.


Skydives are extensively planned and prepared for in advance.


In essence, what you have on a commercial plane are people who have never used or seen a parachute in their lives, but have to strap on the gear effectively in only a minute or two and prepare to jump.

They also have to do all this while wearing their emergency oxygen masks (we haven’t even factored in the environment of confusion and commotion that would rock the cabin in such an emergency situation where 200 passengers needs to jump in less than 2minutes).


Let's us imagine a situation where the plane is nose diving. [/quote]

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Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by codemaniacs: 7:46pm On Mar 18
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Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by generationz(f): 9:32pm On Mar 18
codemaniacs:


the parachute will burn if there is an explosion anywhere in the plane lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

mars and space are not real..

kindly explain the last paragraph?
Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by codemaniacs: 8:26am On Mar 19
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Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by generationz(f): 8:39am On Mar 19
codemaniacs:


If they were real it may also mean aliens, which means U.S and the likes would enlighten the whole world on securing their airspace against aliens, they wouldn't spending money or time on media attacks and re-colonizing some countries.

it would mean aliens can invade earth through any part of the earth, so every part of the earth would need to be aware and enlightened on such events..

maybe the elites are planning to run off to another planet and leave us here
Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by codemaniacs: 9:30am On Mar 19
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Re: Reason Commercial Airplanes Dont Have Parachutes Onboard For Passengers(Pics) by papaejima1: 10:12am On Mar 19
Originalsly:


I do like your reasoning..... and really wherever someone ends up they can be located by GPS...that shouldn't be an issue. Now the part quoted... that's where the whole parachute thing would not be effective. Parachutes for individuals...or for the entire cabin section (which I like better)... need to be deployed at a certain height. Since planes usually go into distress during take off and landing...they will not be at the height for parachutes to be effective.
I was going to make the point that passengers bailing out at 30K to 38K feet will have breathing, pressure, hypothermia problems...but like you said... emergencies will not require a bailout at such heights. But then.... parachutes for the fat ones?...babies?...how will that work? More reasons why I'll prefer the cabin option...but.... all this be NL armchair brainstorming!

Parachutes can carry any human weight bro, fat, slim, adult or baby. I am yet to see any human weighing more than 300kg. Better a broken limb than dead.
Remember that the device is automatic and does not need human input to activate and deploy, so if anyone can wear it and get off the plane, the system takes over and guarantees some chance of survival as against the other option of fields strewn with charred bodies and luggage.

Much as this is a concept, more thought can be put into it to refine it.

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