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@budaatum

You should have clumped this together rather than separated the last sentence away from it and add it to the remaining. You misunderstood me. Your bad.

To have both, you must redefine the words "muslim" and "four" to accommodate such. This room for redefining is irrational because I could redefine the word "atheist" to mean a christian mathematician and concluded that there are christian atheists where as it is impossible to simultaneously be an atheist and a christian. This is basically what muslim feminists are doing.

I never said "muslim feminist" is a word. The word that has to be redefined to make being a muslim feminist possible is "muslim." That's all. You can also redefine "feminism" and "feminist" to have it the other way round.

It is impossible to be a muslim feminist except you redefine the word "muslim" to be compatible with feminism. Here are the definitions of the words "Muslim," "Feminism" and "Feminist."

Martinez39:
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@budaatum

You should have clumped this together rather than separated the last sentence away from it and add it to the remaining. You misunderstood me. Your bad.


I never said "muslim feminist" is a word. The word that has to be redefined to make being a muslim feminist possible is "muslim." That's all. You can also redefine "feminism" and "feminist" to have it the other way round.

It is impossible to be a muslim feminist except you redefine the word "muslim" to be compatible with feminism. Here are the definitions of the words "Muslim," "Feminism" and "Feminist."

Forgive me for I am dunce. Please explain to me using the definitions you posted to show me how muslim feminist cannot exist.

Martinez39:
This room for redefining is irrational because I could redefine the word "atheist" to mean a christian mathematician and concluded that there are christian atheists where as it is impossible to simultaneously be an atheist and a christian.

I didn't understand your inclusion of "mathematician" here, and I didn't want to distract, but Christian atheists do exist.

Christian atheism is a form of cultural Christianity and ethics system drawing its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources, whilst rejecting supernatural claims of Christianity.

Christian atheism takes many forms: some Christian atheists take a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) while others follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism.

budaatum:

I didn't understand your inclusion of "mathematician" here, and I didn't want to distract, but Christian atheists do exist.

Christian atheism is a form of cultural Christianity and ethics system drawing its beliefs and practices from Jesus' life and teachings as recorded in the New Testament Gospels and other sources, whilst rejecting supernatural claims of Christianity.

Christian atheism takes many forms: some Christian atheists take a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) while others follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism.

Hmmmmm. On checking the word "christian," I agree that one can be a christian atheist given that someone who adopts the moral values of Jesus is also a christian according to one of the different definitions of "christian" in the English language. Fair enough, christian atheism is possible. I was mixing things up with the common meaning of the word "christian."

However, on cross checking a muslim feminist is impossible.

budaatum:

Forgive me for I am dunce. Please explain to me using the definitions you posted to show me how muslim feminist cannot exist.

I will. I need to attend to something. Space booked.

Martinez39:
I will. I need to attend to something. Space booked.

It's not that the space you booked on your very own thread would ever run out 39 but that surely you've had enough time by now considering how much of it you've spent "lying buda" all over the place. Besides, we'd get to determine once and for all if beans is beans or you're just blind.

Here's my question again, in bold so you don't miss it. If you need more time just say.

Please explain to me using the definitions you posted to show me how Muslim Feminist cannot exist?

budaatum:

It's not that the space you booked on your very own thread would ever run out 39 but that surely you've had enough time by now considering how much of it you've spent "lying buda" all over the place. Besides, we'd get to determine once and for all if beans is beans or you're just blind.

Here's my question again, in bold so you don't miss it. If you need more time just say.

Please explain to me using the definitions you posted to show me how Muslim Feminist cannot exist?

As I have said buda, I am not interested in any of our past discussions anymore. Let's agree to disagree. I know beans is beans regardless of who eats it and you have your own idea on whether beans is beans or not. Shikina.

Martinez39:
As I have said buda, I am not interested in any of our past discussions anymore. Let's agree to disagree. I know beans is beans regardless of who eats it and you have your own idea on whether beans is beans or not. Shikina.

I do not "agree to disagree" with people who refuse to use their brain but have the audacity to insult buda!

budaatum:

I do not "agree to disagree" with people who refuse to use their brain but have the audacity to insult buda!

Okay.

Xavfra, if a religious person can be a carpenter, or a bartender of a thief, why can't a religious person be a murderer or a feminist?

budaatum:

I do ask you why Caps!

But he would not CAP!

budaatum:
Xavfra, if a religious person can be a carpenter, or a bartender of a thief, why can't a religious person be a murderer or a feminist?



But he would not CAP!

The Bible states that women should be submissive to their husbands .....but....we are only submissive to our superiors .....

Xavfra:




The Bible states that women should be submissive to their husbands .....but....we are only submissive to our superiors .....

"The Bible states that" humans must not kill, nor covet their neighbours goods.

Are humans submissive to the Bible?

Xavfra:


are only submissive to our superiors .....

Who are your superiors?

budaatum:


"The Bible states that" humans must not kill, nor covet their neighbours goods.

Are humans submissive to the Bible?

Those who are under the religion which uses the Bible are submissive to it ..

.

Xavfra:




Those who are under the religion which uses the Bible are submissive to it ..

.

They do not kill? They do not bear false witness? They do not steal? They do not worship other gods?

budaatum:

Who are your superiors?

In an empty space, we are all equal.. .....

But we all thread different routes, it then makes us different........

Just like a general is a superior to a sergeant

budaatum:

They do not kill? They do not bear false witness? They do not steal? They do not worship other gods?

They do.....


But give to my point and adequate reply

Xavfra:



They do.....


But give to my point and adequate reply

What is your point?

Xavfra:



In an empty space, we are all equal.. .....

But we all thread different routes, it then makes us different........

Just like a general is a superior to a sergeant

Who is the general and who is the sergent and who is the God who determines superiority?

budaatum:

What is your point?

Where I talked about feminism not being of the Bible

budaatum:

Who is the general and who is the sergent and who is the God who determines superiority?

You're dancing circles........

I've already explained to you and you refuse to answer

Xavfra:



Where I talked about feminism not being of the Bible

If one can be a Muslim thief or a Christian murderer or liar, can one not be a Christian Feminist if one wants to?

In this thread is proof that one can be a Muslim - which one would argue is more militantly opposed - and a Feminist.

[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+2%3A23-27&version=NIV]The Bible was made by humans, and not humans for the Bible[/url]!

We, are dancing in circles!


Who is the general and who is the sergent and who is the God who determines superiority?

budaatum:


If one can be a Muslim thief or a Christian murderer,o or liar, can one not be a Christian Feminist if one wants to?

In this thread is proof that one can be a Muslim - which one would argue is more militantly opposed - and a Feminist.

[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+2%3A23-27&version=NIV]The Bible was made by humans, and not humans for the Bible[/url]!

It's total disobedient to be a Christian and a thief so it is for feminism

Xavfra:




It's total disobedient to be a Christian and a thief so it is for feminism

Who is a Christian if not the disobedient?

budaatum:

Who is a Christian if not the disobedient?

It all boils down that Christianity is sham and scam

Xavfra:







It all boils down that Christianity is sham and scam

Do you not mean Christians are imperfect?

budaatum:

Do you not mean Christians are imperfect?

No......the world is beautiful as it is imperfect and I love it though not all.....but I don't expect them to be perfect......



And they should as well accept theur God is imperfect......

Xavfra:


And they should as well accept theur God is imperfect......

Who are "they" that what ”they” accept matters?

budaatum:

Who are "they" that what ”they” accept matters?

Stop mincing words

budaatum:

Who are "they" that what ”they” accept matters?

Stop mincing words or do you intend pun

Xavfra:



Stop mincing words or do you intend pun

Who are they that their opinion should matter?