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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by MelesZenawi: 7:01pm On Jan 22
Logan23:


Shut up, u are not from Okrika grin grin grin.

Na u teach them igbo wink

U are an Afonja from ogbomosho. Okrika pple speak IGBO, This is a fact that can never be erased

Okrikans don't speak Igbo.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by WorWorBoy: 12:18am On Jan 23
Logan23:


Shut up, u are not from Okrika grin grin grin.

Na u teach them igbo wink

U are an Afonja from ogbomosho. Okrika pple speak IGBO, This is a fact that can never be erased
There are no biri,ama or polo in the wakirike communities that speaks igbo.I am only indulging you cause i'm bored,any okrika who speak igbo learnt it. Igbo is not part of Okrika people culture and will never be. I think i'm done here.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Nobody: 12:33am On Jan 23
WorWorBoy:
There are no biri, ama or polo in the wakirike communities that speaks igbo.I am only indulging you cause i'm bored,any okrika who speak igbob learnt it. Igbo is not part of okrika culture and will never be.I think i'm done here.
okrika was founded by igbos and other tribes....diee if u dont like it cool
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Nobody: 12:33am On Jan 23
MelesZenawi:


Okrikans don't speak Igbo.

Yea, they speak fulfude.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by WorWorBoy: 12:54am On Jan 23
Logan23:
okirika was foundeed by igbos and other tribes....diee if u dont like it cool
Lies from the deepest part of hades! Okrika was not found by igbos,but different people who migrate from the delta ( present day delta and Baysela state). It is lie that will kill you.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Abagworo(m): 5:33am On Jan 23
WorWorBoy:
There are no biri,ama or polo in the wakirike communities that speaks igbo.I am only indulging you cause i'm bored,any okrika who speak igbo learnt it. Igbo is not part of Okrika people culture and will never be. I think i'm done here.

@bolded proves you have comprehension issue. There's no language spoken without learning it but languages are classified as 1st and 2nd language with the 1st being your mother tongue and 2nd being another language spoken other than 1st. Okrika has always been speaking Igbo in addition to the mother tongue of Wakirike for hundreds of years.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Nobody: 7:27am On Jan 23
WorWorBoy:
Lies from the deepest part of hades! Okrika was not found by igbos,but different people who migrate from the delta ( present day delta and Baysela state). It is lie that will kill you.

50% of that delta ur talking about is IGBO. cheesy grin

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by WorWorBoy: 8:15am On Jan 23
Abagworo:


@bolded proves you have comprehension issue. There's no language spoken without learning it but languages are classified as 1st and 2nd language with the 1st being your mother tongue and 2nd being another language spoken other than 1st. Okrika has always been speaking Igbo in addition to the mother tongue of Wakirike for hundreds of years.
It is you who have comprehension issue! There are no biri,ama or polo in the
wakirike communities that speaks igbo,Okrikans don't have two languages. Okrikans have only one language which is the kirikeni okwen.
So this your tommyrot of Okrikans speaking igbo for long ages are all nothing but lies.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by WorWorBoy: 8:18am On Jan 23
Logan23:


50% of that delta ur talking about is IGBO. cheesy grin
There are no igbos in Okrika! No single one. wink

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Abagworo(m): 12:53pm On Jan 23
WorWorBoy:
It is you who have comprehension issue! There are no biri,ama or polo in the
wakirike communities that speaks igbo,Okrikans don't have two languages. Okrikans have only one language which is the kirikeni okwen.
So this your tommyrot of Okrikans speaking igbo for long ages are all nothing but lies.

Then I guess you are not in Rivers State or from Okrika. Amadiama, Okuruama, Okochiri, Borokiri, Ogu, Oboama, Ndubuisiama, Okujaguama, Abuloma, Abam-ama, Georgeama, Ibaka, Isaka, Odokorobie, Ikirikoama etc. speak and understand Igbo as a 2nd language after Wakirike. It does not make them Igbo but the truth remains unchangeable

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by RedboneSmith(m): 2:18pm On Jan 23
Abagworo:


Then I guess you are not in Rivers State or from Okrika. Amadiama, Okuruama, Okochiri, Borokiri, Ogu, Oboama, Ndubuisiama, Okujaguama, Abuloma, Abam-ama, Georgeama, Ibaka, Isaka, Odokorobie, Ikirikoama etc. speak and understand Igbo as a 2nd language after Wakirike. It does not make them Igbo but the truth remains unchangeable

A friend who is a Rivers indigene told me about George-Ama, but I decided to keep quiet about it here and not throw that in this guy's face, since it was secondhand information to me that I cannot defend.

Why do this people lie so hard about their connections with the Igbo?

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Nobody: 6:47pm On Jan 23
WorWorBoy:
There are no igbos in Okrika! No single one. wink

Igbo is well spoken in okrika

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by BlackSaints: 3:22am On Jan 24
Abagworo:


Then I guess you are not in Rivers State or from Okrika. Amadiama, Okuruama, Okochiri, Borokiri, Ogu, Oboama, Ndubuisiama, Okujaguama, Abuloma, Abam-ama, Georgeama, Ibaka, Isaka, Odokorobie, Ikirikoama etc. speak and understand Igbo as a 2nd language after Wakirike. It does not make them Igbo but the truth remains unchangeable
We don't speak igbo in Ogu/Bolo oga.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by WorWorBoy: 3:46am On Jan 24
RedboneSmith:


A friend who is a Rivers indigene told me about George-Ama, but I decided to keep quiet about it here and not throw that in this guy's face, since it was secondhand information to me that I cannot defend.

Why do this people lie so hard about their connections with the Igbo?
A friend always told them that Okrika people speak igbo! grin It is always a friend, if i ask you where George ama is located in Wakirike you and that your so called friend won't even know lol.
George ama people don't speak igbo, bring that so called friend here let me question him or her. Since it's a second-hand info that you can not defend, why did you type it here? What were you thinking or hoping to achieve?

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by WorWorBoy: 6:02am On Jan 24
Logan23:


Igbo is well spoken in okrika
There are no communities in Okrika that speaks igbo.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by WorWorBoy: 6:12am On Jan 24
Abagworo:


Then I guess you are not in Rivers State or from Okrika. Amadiama, Okuruama, Okochiri, Borokiri, Ogu, Oboama, Ndubuisiama, Okujaguama, Abuloma, Abam-ama, Georgeama, Ibaka, Isaka, Odokorobie, Ikirikoama etc. speak and understand Igbo as a 2nd language after Wakirike. It does not make them Igbo but the truth remains unchangeable

Where did you copied this from? from wikipedia right? lol ,you forget that a true wakirike son like me is here on nairaland so your whatever will not fly. for starters, the likes of Ogu/Bolo, Okochiri ama, okuru ama, Oba ama, George ama, Ibaka ama, isaka ama, ikiriko am, all have ijaw roots. So them speaking igbo is something that is impossible. Now let me address the second part. The likes of Amadi ama, abuloma am, okujagu ama, etc also have ijaw roots.
But the thing is,they interacts with stangers more than their counterparts which allows them to borrowed words from their strangers hands.
I'll give you an example,the word Imama is a borrowed word for thank you doesn't mean imama is thank you in Okrika.
Okrikans don't speaks two languages! Okrikans speak one language which is, the kiriken okwen.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by RedboneSmith(m): 10:04am On Jan 24
WorWorBoy:

A friend always told them that Okrika people speak igbo! grin It is always a friend, if i ask you where George ama is located in Wakirike you and that your so called friend won't even know lol.
George ama people don't speak igbo, bring that so called friend here let me question him or her. Since it's a second-hand info that you can not defend, why did you type it here? What were you thinking or hoping to achieve?

On this very forum many years ago, an Okrika chap who is George on his father's side and Ogan on his mother's wrote this. I know sha you will say it was an Igbo man pretending to be Okrika on Nairaland.

People were more honest with themselves here in 2008. Today everything is politically and ethnically charged and everyone feels they have to protect their interests from would-be 'usurpers'.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by WorWorBoy: 10:10am On Jan 24
RedboneSmith:


On this very forum many years ago, an Okrika chap who is George on his father's side and Ogan on his mother's wrote this. I know sha you will say it was an Igbo man pretending to be Okrika on Nairaland.

People were more honest with themselves here in 2008. Today everything is politically and ethnically charged and everyone feels they have to protect their interests from would-be 'usurpers'.
That dude is an Igbo man pretending to be Okrika on Nairaland.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by RedboneSmith(m): 10:12am On Jan 24
WorWorBoy:

That dude is an Igbo man pretending to be Okrika on Nairaland.

Of course! grin
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Nobody: 11:32am On Jan 24
WorWorBoy:
There are no communities in Okrika that speaks igbo.

Okrika is igbo
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Allen102: 12:05pm On Jan 24
Logan23:


Okrika is igbo
Okrika is anything but igbo lol.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by BlackSaints: 12:07pm On Jan 24
Logan23:


Okrika is igbo
You wish! Okrika is an ijaw clan.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by ChinenyeN(m): 5:10pm On Jan 24
WorWorBoy:

That dude is an Igbo man pretending to be Okrika on Nairaland.

You must really be new then. For a second I was thinking you might have been a former Nairalander and this was a secondary account for you, but for you to say that Ibime is not an Ijaw person really clarifies it for me.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Ibime(m): 11:11pm On Jan 24
WorWorBoy:

That dude is an Igbo man pretending to be Okrika on Nairaland.

Iyo, our elders all understand Igbo. I don't know about new generations. Maybe less so on Koniju side but we cannot deny that Okrika took in plenty Igbo migration over the slave trade and palm oil trade and our population tripled over this period with most new entrants from Igbo land and many intermarriages. Founder of Ogan Ama is one of such - Chief Ilalamoku Chukwukere Ogan, and many of the Ado clans compounds and Waris were headed by people with some Igbo root. This is conveniently overlooked and rightly so, because we are one people under the banner of Wakirike and once you are an Okrika man, you are an Okrika man regardless of your root or origin.

However I notice that new generation dropped Igbo as second language, and focused more on Wakirike language which is a good thing, with English predominantly taking over as second language. However most Kirike men or women in early 20th century must speak Igbo as a condition of going to market in upland. And many married from there in that period also. We also had many slaves from there 50 years prior, all of whom blended into Okrika society. Maybe you can count all your ancestors as pure Okrika blood, or your history is not documented, but a lot of Kirike people who can trace their ancestry will trace some of their ancestors back to Igbo land.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by BlackSaints: 11:22pm On Jan 24
Ibime:


Iyo, our elders all understand Igbo. I don't know about new generations. Maybe less so on Koniju side but we cannot deny that Okrika took in plenty Igbo migration over the slave trade and palm oil trade and our population tripled over this period with most new entrants from Igbo land and many intermarriages. Founder of Ogan Ama is one of such - Chief Ilalamoku Chukwukere Ogan, and many of the Ado clans compounds and Waris were headed by people with some Igbo root. However I notice that new generation dropped Igbo as second language, and focused more on Wakirike language which is a good thing, with English predominantly taking over as second language. However most Kirike men or women in early 20th century must speak Igbo as a condition of going to market in upland. And many married from there in that period also
I think i need to come in here what do you mean by our elders understand igbo? Are you speaking for your Ama or for the whole Wakirike communities? cause i am from Ogu/ bolo and my old man and his own father don't understand igbo.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Ibime(m): 11:30pm On Jan 24
BlackSaints:
I think i need to come in here what do you mean by our elders understand igbo? Are you speaking for your Ama or for the whole Wakirike communities? cause i am from Ogu/ bolo and my old man and his own father don't understand igbo.

Ogu Bolo is further from Kirike main town and is more pure in blood as they have always been in that Onne axis. I expect any Ama that split out from Kirike main town (a lot of Ama moved out from maintown between 1850 and 1880 to populate virgin islands around) to have stronger Igbo influence. Compounds that lived in Kirike main town were the ones involved in the palm oil trade and the ones with the most Igbo blood.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Abagworo(m): 11:41pm On Jan 24
BlackSaints:
I think i need to come in here what do you mean by our elders understand igbo? Are you speaking for your Ama or for the whole Wakirike communities? cause i am from Ogu/ bolo and my old man and his own father don't understand igbo.

My friend there is no need denying a glaring truth for whatever reason cause it will affect your unborn generations. It is not a hidden truth that inside Okrika Igbo is spoken as a 2nd language after Wakirike. Till date it has remained so despite the efforts to wipe off traces of Igbo as a result of misguided aggression.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by BlackSaints: 11:43pm On Jan 24
Ibime:


Ogu Bolo is further from Kirike main town and is more pure in blood as they have always been in that Onne axis. I expect any Ama that split out from Kirike main town (a lot of Ama moved out from maintown between 1850 and 1880 to populate virgin islands around) to have stronger Igbo influence. Compounds that lived in Kirike main town were the ones involved in the palm oil trade and the ones with the most Igbo blood.
in layman terms ogu/bolo don't speak igbo, or have anything to do with igbos.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by BlackSaints: 11:46pm On Jan 24
Abagworo:


My friend there is no need denying a glaring truth for whatever reason cause it will affect your unborn generations. It is not a hidden truth that inside Okrika Igbo is spoken as a 2nd language after Wakirike. Till date it has remained so despite the efforts to wipe off traces of Igbo as a result of misguided aggression.

Oga we don't speak igbo in Ogu/Bolo so what all these nonsense of me denying what?
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Ibime(m): 12:03am On Jan 25
BlackSaints:
in layman terms ogu/bolo don't speak igbo, or have anything to do with igbos.

Ogu Bolo was a fishing village so they don't need to. Kirike town is a trading port and you cannot escape Igbo influence there. After the kidnap of Ibanichuka, my great-great-grandfather was regent of Okrika and his Wari contained more slaves than freemen. I even stumbled across an interview with one of his slaves from Umahia some years back. All those slaves and their descendants are now Kirike from George ama so you can assume that by blood, there is more Igbo blood in George than native. Same for every trading Ama in Okrika who comprise the bulk of our population. Only those who stuck to traditional fishing occupation can claim to be fully native in blood.

Okrika population more than tripled over the palm oil trade period, so you can guess where that extra population came from - Igbo land. The same is true for Kalabari, Nembe, Brass and Ibani but in the case of Okrika and Kalabari, our language was never overwhelmed unlike Ibani who took more immigrants. Ibani population was only 3,000 before they started trading. By the time they finished trading, Igbo immigration had overwhelmed their native population. One of the arguments enemies of the King of Nembe used to make against him is he is descended from Igbos. That goes to show you the extent of Igbo migration to Ijaw City-States during Palm Oil trade.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by BlackSaints: 12:16am On Jan 25
Ibime:


Ogu Bolo was a fishing village so they don't need to.
Mr Abagworo you don hear? Ogu/Bolo don't speak igbo! So i was right along.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Nobody: 2:01am On Jan 25
BlackSaints:
You wish! Okrika is an ijaw clan.


Go n stop sam dede, BBN Tacha and Mrs Ebele Jonathan from being igbo n speaking igbo

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