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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by HarryDuce(m): 12:05pm On Apr 25, 2019
Hmmm. Ndoki being an Ijaw clan seems a bit farfetched. I mean, how are they related? what are the links? When did Ndoki stop being an Ijaw clan that they are now reuniting?

@pazienza & HopeAtHand. Besides nairaland, I don't see anyone claiming another tribe as Ijaw. Linguistically, the Ijoid tribes are similar. Culturally, some are more similar than others. The affiliations did not come out of thin air. If a Nembe man speaks, a Kalabari, Okrika, Ibani, Biseni and Akinima person will understand what he says to an extent as the languages are similar (should i say dialect ). It is difficult for a Kalabari man to grasp anything an Izon man says, but fluent speakers will understand a few sentences. A Kalabari man can be understood by many Ijoid tribes especially in rivers state.

There is no "forced" association. What about the Obolo? (I presume this is what HopeAtHand referred to as claiming Ibibio). Most people call them "Ijaws" simply because of their language and history. Their language is Ijoid (not Ibibiod as most people on nairaland claim) with Ibibiod and Igboid influences. What they choose to identify as is entirely up to them.

I'm not gonna talk about Bonny and Opobo because it seems some people are not abreast with reality. Moaning about it changes nothing on ground.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by LLobiorah: 12:26pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:



What is the meaning of umahi and igariwey this hausa fulani man....

Will you deny u don't have hausa roots?

Be guided and stay off igbo matters.



Mad man!!
Since last year, that you have been ranting like a deranged dog over this... Ebonyi is still under south east. Get a life bro!
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 12:42pm On Apr 25, 2019
LLobiorah:




Mad man!!
Since last year, that you have been ranting like a deranged dog over this... Ebonyi is still under south east. Get a life bro!


It will be moved away from SE with time.
Is a matter of time

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by ideynl1: 1:09pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:



It will be moved away from SE with time.
Is a matter of time

No, instead Igala will be removed from South East.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by LLobiorah: 1:17pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:



It will be moved away from SE with time.
Is a matter of time


Lola
Osagyefo.. This year go soon pass you by. Nevertheless hold onto that dream son!
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Curlieweed: 1:53pm On Apr 25, 2019
HarryDuce:
Hmmm. Ndoki being an Ijaw clan seems a bit farfetched. I mean, how are they related? what are the links? When did Ndoki stop being an Ijaw clan that they are now reuniting?

@pazienza & HopeAtHand. Besides nairaland, I don't see anyone claiming another tribe as Ijaw. Linguistically, the Ijoid tribes are similar. Culturally, some are more similar than others. The affiliations did not come out of thin air. If a Nembe man speaks, a Kalabari, Okrika, Ibani, Biseni and Akinima person will understand what he says to an extent as the languages are similar (should i say dialect ). It is difficult for a Kalabari man to grasp anything an Izon man says, but fluent speakers will understand a few sentences. A Kalabari man can be understood by many Ijoid tribes especially in rivers state.

There is no "forced" association. What about the Obolo? (I presume this is what HopeAtHand referred to as claiming Ibibio). Most people call them "Ijaws" simply because of their language and history. Their language is Ijoid (not Ibibiod as most people on nairaland claim) with Ibibiod and Igboid influences. What they choose to identify as is entirely up to them.

I'm not gonna talk about Bonny and Opobo because it seems some people are not abreast with reality. Moaning about it changes nothing on ground.

Your post seems very honest and free from the sort of propaganda this sorts of topics usually attract. However, why do you think the Ndoki (being Ijaws) is far fetched?

I have been hearing this claim about Ndoki being Ijaw for a while now but anytime I talk to offline Ndokis I get conflicting responses. While some outrightly deny it pointing to some far off interaction with Ibanis, others say that they were actually Ijaws. Someone actually told me that a lot of older Ndokis were fluent in Ibani. This may be the case because I have met a lady that I initially thought was from Rivers State only to later find out she was actually Ndoki from Abia. She even had an Ijaw name.

It may also be that ethnic divisions was a lot more fluid in the past than it is at the present time. It could be that these groups we struggle to classify along these hard lines were made up of people with differing origins. It could be that Ndoki in the past simply identified as Ndoki and while speaking Igbo did not give a lot of importance to whether they were Igbo or not because that classification had very little political value as the larger Nigeria we see today didn't exist.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by mbos: 3:28pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:



Check ur grammar and quote back.

which grammar? spot s error...child

English slavery.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Yujin(m): 3:57pm On Apr 25, 2019
Curlieweed:


Your post seems very honest and free from the sort of propaganda this sorts of topics usually attract. However, why do you think the Ndoki (being Ijaws) is far fetched?

I have been hearing this claim about Ndoki being Ijaw for a while now but anytime I talk to offline Ndokis I get conflicting responses. While some outrightly deny it pointing to some far off interaction with Ibanis, others say that they were actually Ijaws. Someone actually told me that a lot of older Ndokis were fluent in Ibani. This may be the case because I have met a lady that I initially thought was from Rivers State only to later find out she was actually Ndoki from Abia. She even had an Ijaw name.

It may also be that ethnic divisions was a lot more fluid in the past than it is at the present time. It could be that these groups we struggle to classify along these hard lines were made up of people with differing origins. It could be that Ndoki in the past simply identified as Ndoki and while speaking Igbo did not give a lot of importance to whether they were Igbo or not because that classification had very little political value as the larger Nigeria we see today didn't exist.


You're very correct. No one bothered about ethnicity those days. What matters most was survival and ease of business. This Ndoki connection to Bonny actually tells a lot. The Ndokis were business people who were able to connect so much with the Ibanis hence the acculturation. There's this masquerade found among both groups called Nwaotam. Till date that masquerade is still displayed in Bonny town. It's origin is from Ndoki. This clearly tells that Ndoki people were pure Igbos right from the onset. Opobo and Bonny has a dual identity. It's like that in many other regions of the world.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Ndoki85(m): 4:29pm On Apr 25, 2019
AdaFonju:
The Leadership of Ijaw Youth Council (IYC) Eastern Zone ably led by the Capacity Chairman Comrade Sammy George made an historic visit to Ndoki Kingdom for meeting with the Chiefs and the Traditional Rulers both from Oyigbo LGA of Rivers State,Ukwa East LGA of Abia State and Ukanafun LGA of Akwa Ibom State.

The Historic Meeting in preparation for the IYC Ndoki Clan inauguration was well attended by Chiefs, the Vice Chairman Ukwa East LGA Of Abia State and the following Royal Majesties.

HRM EZE S.N NWAEKE JP
ONONANKWUME VI, OMUIHUEZE 1, CHAIRMAN OF OYIGBO LGA COUNCIL OF TRADITIONAL RULERS.

HRM EZE IKEAGWUCHI EKEKE.
CHAIRMAN UKWA EAST LGA COUNCIL OF TRADITIONAL RULERS OF ABIA STATE.

HRM EZE I.O NWANKWO.
SECRETARY UKWA EAST LGA COUNCIL OF TRADITIONAL RULERS.

HRM EZE DAMINABO JOSHUA

DR IDA FELIX WABOSO

CHIEF FIDELIS NWAOCHA
THE TRADITIONAL PRIME MINISTER OF UMU IHUEEZE CLAN

CHIEF FRIDAY ONYEUKWU

AND HON CHIZOBE ONWUNWANNE
THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF UKWA EAST LGA OF ABIA STATE.

It was indeed an historic moment filled with boundless joys and fulfilment as been expressed by their Majesties reuniting the Ndoki Clan to their Ijaw Root.

HRM Eze S.N Nwaeke JP, the Chairman of Oyigbo Council of Traditional Rulers and the Most Senior of all the Traditional Rulers of Ndoki Clan in his words while expressing his deepest gratitude to the facilitators of the Reunion and the IYC Ndoki Clan Inauguration said " now I have what to tell my Ancestors when I finally join them".

Both leaders of Ndoki Clan and the IYC Eastern Zone delegation agreed to do the formal inauguration of IYC Ndoki Clan on the 10th of May before 2019 ISAAC BORO'S DAY 16th MAY to enable them prepare for their full participation in celebration of the NIGER DELTA LEGENDARY REVOLUTIONARY SOLDIER, MAJOR ISAAC JASPER ADAKA BORO.

Comrade Sammy George Chairman IYC Eastern Zone with his Council and Elders are indeed rebuilding the Broken Ancient Landmarks that ones bounded our Forebears as ONE UNITED IJAW.

#WERISE.


cc; mynd44, lalasticlala
please Ndoki kingdom was never an Ibo kingdom. come to Akwete where i Come from we don't have any culture that related to Ibos. we don't even speak the same language and most of us bear Ijaw Names like tonye.Fubra.Idawari.furo.igoni.tugbor.ihemiary.and we behave different from ibos

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 4:46pm On Apr 25, 2019
ideynl1:


No, instead Igala will be removed from South East.

And u want a reply to this trash u posted.
I learnt igala make up 52% of enugu state
So dats their business.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 4:48pm On Apr 25, 2019
Ndoki85:
please Ndoki kingdom was never an Ibo kingdom. come to Akwete where i Come from we don't have any culture that related to Ibos. we don't even speak the same language and most of us bear Ijaw Names like tonye.Fubra.Idawari.furo.igoni.tugbor.ihemiary.and we behave different from ibos

We already know u guys are not igbos, is just some miscreant deceiving themselves her.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 4:48pm On Apr 25, 2019
LLobiorah:



Lola
Osagyefo.. This year go soon pass you by. Nevertheless hold onto that dream son!

Makes no sense to me.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by MXrep: 5:08pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:



What is the meaning of umahi and igariwey this hausa fulani man....

Will you deny u don't have hausa roots?

Be guided and stay off igbo matters.
What is the meaning of obaze? Is that not edo? What of Odua? Is that not yoruba ( the people oni was talking about)?
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by MXrep: 5:14pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:


And u want a reply to this trash u posted.
I learnt igala make up 52% of enugu state
So dats their business.
Anambra and clueless history. Igala even raided down to onitsha and abducted the children of obi of onitsha and sold as slaves. Edo, Igala, nupe made up the onitsha of today
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 5:40pm On Apr 25, 2019
MXrep:

What is the meaning of obaze? Is that not edo? What of Odua? Is that not yoruba ( the people oni was talking about)?

All name have full and noted meaning. So leave them for us

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by LLobiorah: 5:41pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:

Makes no sense to me.

Coming from a mad man I ain't surprised
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 5:45pm On Apr 25, 2019
MXrep:

Anambra and clueless history. Igala even raided down to onitsha and abducted the children of obi of onitsha and sold as slaves. Edo, Igala, nupe made up the onitsha of today

Moonlight story.
I don't understand why these states will be causing issues for us.
Someone from ebonyi or enugu claiming someone from asaba who he has no ties with.......Imagine

Bringing insults to us.
So leave us the way we are.

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Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 5:48pm On Apr 25, 2019
LLobiorah:



Coming from a mad man
I ain't surprised

Story, am I mad more than Umahi that worked against atiku/obi election?

Am I more mad that the 90k u guys gave buhari?

Umahi is coming out for vp 2023, we are waiting for him.....

History don't iie...he will shed tears.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by LLobiorah: 6:28pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:


Story, am I mad more than Umahi that worked against atiku/obi election?

Am I more mad that the 90k u guys gave buhari?

Umahi is coming out for vp 2023, we are waiting for him.....

History don't iie...he will shed tears.



Eyah
Chai.. Is that why you are pained?
Sorry o!!

Bros! If Umahi is picked for VP 2023, and God be with him, not even inconsequential lots like you, would stop it. Get a life bro!
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 6:34pm On Apr 25, 2019
LLobiorah:




Eyah
Chai.. Is that why you are pained?
Sorry o!!

Bros! If Umahi is picked for VP 2023, and God be with him, not even inconsequential lots like you, would stop it. Get a life bro!


He will win with ebonyi with 300k votes.

Last election was an eye opener to Peter obi.

Umahi delivered his promise of working against Peter obi.


Ekweremmadu did his best though....he is a good man.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by LLobiorah: 6:46pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:


He will win with ebonyi with 300k votes.
Last election was an eye opener to Peter obi.
Umahi delivered his promise of working against Peter obi.

Ekweremmadu did his best though....he is a good man.

Yes.. With With 300k votes Deal with that!
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 6:48pm On Apr 25, 2019
LLobiorah:



Yes.. With With 300k votes
Deal with that!

Betrayals everywhere.....
When we are thinking ekweremmadu has selfish reasons little did we know that the real enemy where. Umahi. And his people.
Back stabbers everywhere.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by LLobiorah: 6:54pm On Apr 25, 2019
[quote author=Osagyefo98 post=77852915]

Betrayals everywhere.....
When we are thinking ekweremmadu has selfish reasons little did we know that the real enemy where. Umahi. And his people.
Back stabbers everywhere.


Lol

Keep ranting
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 6:57pm On Apr 25, 2019
[quote author=LLobiorah post=77853079][/quote]

Truth hurts.....
Deal with it.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by LLobiorah: 7:01pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:

Truth hurts..... Deal with it.


Lol Which truth? That Umahi's support would have made Peter Obi to win? Abi Ebonyians voting massively for Peter obi would make him win? By the way, does Peter obi know you? Voice of the voiceless!
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 7:11pm On Apr 25, 2019
LLobiorah:




Lol
Which truth?
That Umahi's support would have made Peter Obi to win?
Abi Ebonyians voting massively for Peter obi would make him win?
By the way, does Peter obi know you?
Voice of the voiceless!

Obi knows better than I do.
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by LLobiorah: 7:43pm On Apr 25, 2019
Osagyefo98:

Obi knows better than I do.


Biko Go siddon!!
Re: Ndoki Clan Reunion With Their Ijaw Root. by Osagyefo98: 7:47pm On Apr 25, 2019
LLobiorah:




Biko
Go siddon!!
To. Be a betrayal is. Too bad.
May God. Forgive u guys.

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