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| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by jcross19: 12:38am On Oct 08, 2010 |
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| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by jcross19: 3:59pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
WHY YOU PEOPLE ARE HIDING FROM THE SIMPLE QUESTIONS , ALL YOU POSTED WAS JUST VERSES FROM THE BIBLE WHICH IS NOT RELEVANTS TO THE QUESTION . THE QUESTION IS THAT SHOW US FROM YOUR KORAN OR HADDITH THAT INDICATE THE LINEAGE OF MOHAMMAD TO THE TWELVE SONS OF ISHMAEL , DON'T YOU SEE THAT IS A SHAME ON YOUR ISLAMIC SCHOLARS THAT ANYTIME YOU WANT TO DIG OUT HISTORIES , ALL YOU NEED IS TO REFER TO THE BIBLE FOR BACK UP THEN WHY CAN'T ALLAH REVEALED ALL THESE LAPSES TO MOHAMMAD, HUH THAN COPYNG THE STORIES BIBLE WHICH ONLY RESTRICTED TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL . SO AM WAITING . I NEED IT THE SOURCE FROM ISLAMIC COURSE WITHOUT BIBLE. BIBLE ONLY CONTAIN NO MOHAMMADITE OKAY |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by nopuqeater: 3:44pm On Oct 09, 2010 |
^^^^^^ I do not know about case, JCross19. but in mine, in the family tree; no one has accused by mother as not being the legal wife of my father. and my father was not a bastard, either. So was his father. And his father's father.And then so on. At least, as far as I know from those who are my elders in the family, we are legal heirs to our family blood as the best of them in their own family bloodlines. The case of Muhammad (AS) to Ibrahim (AS) all the way to Adam (AS) is not less than what I just said about myself. Quranic verses talking about Ibrahim and Ismail in Makka and Muhammad is the result of their effort of Prayers. Please notice Ibrahim saying from his bloodlines; Ismail and Isiaq. Of course Muhammad is from Ismail in Makka, not just Arabia. But Makka, directly. 2;124 And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [ Allah ] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers." 2:125 And [mention] when We made the House a place of return for the people and [a place of] security. And take, [O believers], from the standing place of Abraham a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], "Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf and those who are staying [there] for worship and those who bow and prostrate [in prayer]." 2:126 And [mention] when Abraham said, "My Lord, make this a secure city and provide its people with fruits - whoever of them believes in Allah and the Last Day." [ Allah ] said. "And whoever disbelieves - I will grant him enjoyment for a little; then I will force him to the punishment of the Fire, and wretched is the destination." 2:127 And [mention] when Abraham was raising the foundations of the House and [with him] Ishmael, [saying], "Our Lord, accept [this] from us. Indeed You are the Hearing, the Knowing. 2:128 Our Lord, and make us Muslims [in submission] to You and from our descendants a Muslim nation [in submission] to You. And show us our rites and accept our repentance. Indeed, You are the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful. 2:129 Our Lord, and send among them a messenger from themselves who will recite to them Your verses and teach them the Book and wisdom and purify them. Indeed, You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise." 2:130 And who would be averse to the religion of Abraham except one who makes a fool of himself. And We had chosen him in this world, and indeed he, in the Hereafter, will be among the righteous. 2:131 When his Lord said to him, "Submit", he said "I have submitted [in Islam] to the Lord of the worlds." 2:132 And Abraham instructed his sons [to do the same] and [so did] Jacob, [saying], "O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this religion, so do not die except while you are Muslims." 2:133 Or were you witnesses when death approached Jacob, when he said to his sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said, "We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac - one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him." 2:134 That was a nation which has passed on. It will have [the consequence of] what it earned, and you will have what you have earned. And you will not be asked about what they used to do. 2:135 They say, "Be Jews or Christians [so] you will be guided." Say, "Rather, [we follow] the religion of Abraham, inclining toward truth, and he was not of the polytheists." 2:136 Say, [O believers], "We have believed in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him." 2:137 So if they believe in the same as you believe in, then they have been [rightly] guided; but if they turn away, they are only in dissension, and Allah will be sufficient for you against them. And He is the Hearing, the Knowing. 2:138 [And say, "Ours is] the religion of Allah . And who is better than Allah in [ordaining] religion? And we are worshippers of Him." 2:139 Say, [O Muhammad], "Do you argue with us about Allah while He is our Lord and your Lord? For us are our deeds, and for you are your deeds. And we are sincere [in deed and intention] to Him." 2:140 Or do you say that Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants were Jews or Christians? Say, "Are you more knowing or is Allah ?" And who is more unjust than one who conceals a testimony he has from Allah ? And Allah is not unaware of what you do. |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by nopuqeater: 4:00pm On Oct 09, 2010 |
"Ibrahim was of the self-same faith (as Noah) and came to his Lord with a pure heart. He said to his father and to his people, 'What are these that you worship? Would you serve false gods instead of Allah? What do you think of the Lord of the Creation?' He lifted up his eyes to the stars and said, 'I am sick!' Then, his people turned their backs and went off. He stole away to their idols and said to them, 'Will you not eat your offerings? Why do you not speak?' With that, he fell upon them, striking them down with his right hand. The people came running to the scene. 'Would you worship that which you have made with your own hands,' he said, 'when it was Allah who created you and all that you have made?' They replied, 'Build up a pyre and cast him into the blazing flames.' Thus they schemed against him, but we balked their schemes. He said, 'I will take refuge with my Lord; he will guide me. Grant me a son, Lord, and let him be a righteous man.' We gave him news of a gentle son. And when he reached the age when he could work with him his father said to him: "My son, I dreamt that I was sacrificing you. Tell me what you think.' He replied: 'Father, do as you are bidden. Allah willing, you shall find me faithful.' And when they had both surrendered themselves to Allah's will, and Ibrahim had laid down his son prostrate upon his face, We called out to him saying: 'Ibrahim, you have fulfilled your vision.' Thus did we reward the righteous. That was indeed a bitter test. We ransomed his son with a noble sacrifice and bestowed on him the praise of later generations. 'Peace be on Ibrahim!' Thus are the righteous rewarded. He was one of Our believing servants. We gave him Ishak, whom We made a saintly prophet, and blessed them both. Among their offspring were some who did good words and others who clearly sinned against their souls." - Quran 37:83 to 37:113 Prophet Ibrahim is the Father of Monotheistic Faiths (Jewish, Christian and Islamic) and was named Khalil'ullah - Friend of Allah for his staunch faith in the Unseen God. He went against his father, Azar, and his community who were idol worshippers and upheld his belief in Tawhid - One God. To uphold his belief and his dawa of the One God, he did not give in to Nimrud and his people who threatened to throw him into a blazing fire when they were confounded. "Ibrahim's people replied: 'Kill him! Burn him!' But from the fire Allah delivered him. Surely in this there are signs for true believers." 29:24 "'Fire', We said, 'be cool to Ibrahim and keep him safe." - Qulna ya naru koonee bardan wasalaman AAala Ibraheema - Quran 21:69 Prophet Ibrahim's life is a sign and an example to us. His trust in Allah and willingness to submit to Him with the sacrifice of his dearest possession was a severe trial turned manifest example. If one sees the esoteric view of this series of events, it is readily evident that when Ibrahim was willing to fulfil Allah's command of giving up his dear son, Allah did not really need or want his son as Ismail had been granted to him in old age 11:69-71, - it was a test. And Ismail, by readily agreeing to his father's need to obey the command of Allah, relieved the burden Ibrahim must have felt. Both father and son submitted to the Will of Allah. Then Allah gives a hundred-fold, In reality, blood wasn't shed, but life was made even more valuable with the knowledge of Allah's pleasure in their willingness to comply. It is the same with our Dasond and other offerings made in the name of Allah. We are only offering back what was granted to us. After all, we are Ismailis! This event in history gave birth to Eid-ul Adha - Festival of Sacrifice, where Muslims all over the world remember the tough sacrifice Hazrat Ibrahim had to make and was rewarded by Allah by sparing Ismail and making him an example for us to follow in our lives - when we choose to submit to His will, all ends well. Eid-ul Adha is celebrated on the 10th of the month of Zul-Hijja after pilgrims complete their Hajj to Kabbah and follow the footsteps of Bibi Hajar when she was left in the valley of Mecca with Ismail by Hazrat Ibrahim. Families and Jamat get together to recite the morning prayers and then there is feasting, exchange of gifts and rejoicing. I thought it would be helpful, here, to give the Muslim-Christian names of the Prophets believed by the Ahl-e Kitab as I build my web site with more and more stories from the Holy Quran. Quiz to follow soon, If I've missed any, please fill me in. Prophets of People of the Book - Ahl-e Kitab |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by nopuqeater: 4:07pm On Oct 09, 2010 |
From http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salasilah_keturunan_Nabi_Muhammad_SAW Nabi Muhammad s.a.w. (Muhammad bin Abdullah) Abdullah bin Abdul Mutallib Abdul Mutallib bin Hashim Hashim bin Abdul Manaf Abdul Manaf bin Qusai Qusai bin Kilab Kilab bin Murrah Murrah bin Kaab Kaab bin Luay Luay bin Ghalib Ghalib bin Fahr Fahr bin Malik Malik bin An-Nadr An-Nadr bin Kinanah Kinanah bin Khuzaimah Khuzaimah bin Mudrikah Mudrikah bin Elyas Elyas bin Mudar Mudar bin Nizar Nizar bin Ma'ad Ma'ad bin Adnan Adnan bin Add Add bin Humaisi Humaisi bin Salaman Salaman bin Aws Aws bin Buz Buz bin Qamwal Qamwal bin Obai Obai bin Awwam Awwam bin Nashid Nashid bin Haza Haza bin Bildas Bildas bin Yadlaf Yadlaf bin Tabikh Tabikh bin Jahim Jahim bin Nahish Nahish bin Makhi Makhi bin Ayd Ayd bin Abqar Abqar bin Ubayd Ubayd bin Ad-Daa Ad-Daa bin Hamdan Hamdan bin Sanbir Sanbir bin YathRabi YathRabi bin Yahzin Yahzin bin Yalhan Yalhan bin Arami Arami bin Ayd Ayd bin Deshan Deshan bin Aisar/Aizar Aisar bin Afnad Afnad bin Aiham Aiham bin Muksar Muksar bin Nahith Nahith bin Zarih Zarih bin Sani Sani bin Wazzi Wazzi bin Adwa' Adwa' bin Aram Aram bin Haidir Haidir bin Ismail (Son of Ismail also called Kedar in the Bible) Ismail bin Ibrahim (Ishmael bin Abraham - Prophet Ismail) Ibrahim bin Azar (Prophet Ibrahim ---------------- A more detailed graphic to the lineage of Prophet Muhammad please click this link. http://www.answering-christianity.com/family_tree.htm |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by vedaxcool(m): 5:12pm On Oct 09, 2010 |
true words but will Mr. sayo heed to wisdom |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by nopuqeater: 5:12pm On Oct 09, 2010 |
The Holy Prophet (SAW) had said with assured knowledge, "I am the son of two Zabihs". Allah saved Ismail (A.S.) and Abdullah (A.S.) from being slaughtered, and the supreme reason was the presence of Holy Prophet (SAW) in their holy loins. |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by vedaxcool(m): 5:16pm On Oct 09, 2010 |
AllahuAkbar! AllahuAkbar! nopuqeater May ALLAH continue to increase your Faith and grant your Al -Janatu Fildus.Amin |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by jcross19: 1:40am On Oct 10, 2010 |
nopuqeater:wow i discovered something now on the bolded names above, manaf and allah so please CAN YOU KNOW THAT MANAF IS AN IDOL , the daughter of allah , then how can the father of mohama be a SLAVES OF ALLAH or has allah revealed her , him or itself to mohama's father then what is allah doing over 2000 years without revealing itself to the arabians ahahahahaha shame again |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by nopuqeater: 2:11am On Oct 10, 2010 |
^^^^; the poster just above is similar to a human shape with hollow inside. the father of Sayiddina Ibrahim (AS) was an idol worshiper. Look at the life of Ibrahim (AS)? Better than the life of almost every human that ever walked the face of the earth. There is no single monotheist so caled religion, except it says it is from Ibrahim. Muslims will say they are not Jews and not Christianss, but in the same path/way of religion as Ibrahim. Christians will they are not Jews and they are not muslims, but followers of Abraham, somehow. Jews will say they are not Muslims and they are not christians, but followers of Abraham, somehow. Get of the palm wine keggers cub bench. Man. |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by nopuqeater: 10:57pm On Oct 10, 2010 |
And some day, when we get to the Another Comforter part of this process, I will import Tonye-T's thread aboutthe teaching of Muhammad (AS) regarding Satan. |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by seyibrown(f): 10:40pm On Oct 24, 2010 |
Quoted from https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-527852.msg6996672.html#bot [b]John 14:16 'And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever' John 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. John 15:26 "When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me. A Counseller will comfort (give you support,) guide, teach and correct any wrong notions you may have. As you can see from the verse I quoted, Jesus did actually refer to the Holy Spirit as the Counsellor. Mohammed is not the Comforter Jesus promised would come. Mohammed is not the Holy Spirit. Jesus expressly stated who the Counsellor was - the Holy Spirit. You say Mohammed glorifies Jesus? Why do Mohammed's followers hate Jesus then? Do you really know what it means to glorify someone? Why 'glorify' Jesus in a book and persecute others who glorify him with their lives? I don't get it! Mohammed did not teach along the lines of what Jesus taught. Jesus practiced what he preached and I bet Mohammed did too. We know Jesus lived a godly life. He did not murder, plunder, despoil, raid or revel in sexual immorality or encourage any of these things. The comforter reminds Jesus' followers of what he taught. For example, Jesus taught in Luke 16:18 that "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery". The Holy Spirit - the comforter and cousellor- reminds us of this and explains the teaching. The person who comes and teaches that you should divorce one of your four wives before you marry another is definitely saying something entirely different from what Jesus said and he therefore can not be 'the comforter'. [/b] |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by Sweetnecta: 4:20am On Oct 25, 2010 |
@eyibrown: The above, I have just answered it with clarity in the "What the former comforter left for the Another Comforter" thread. |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by seyibrown(f): 12:46pm On Oct 25, 2010 |
[b][size=20pt]SWEETNECTA + NOPUQEATER = NOPUQEATER! LOL![/size][/b]Hope that explains how one can manifest himself in two! And if we add your 3rd ID, that'll should explain 3in 1 to you better!  @Seyibrown: Before I try to respond to any of your statements, above, about God, etc, please what do you know about gradations of Purity, and also gradations of contamination? Let me direct you what I want you to tell me, instead of you giving me what you think I was saying: We have the purest grade of water, when we can detect any impurity from it. Let say that 100% pure. How can the Bible that you claim has been corrupted defend Mohammed? I quote your post on our thread above |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by Sweetnecta: 2:53am On Oct 26, 2010 |
^^^^^^Is a corrupt woman or man not a woman or man still? Is a corrupt judge not a judge still? A corrupt bobby (police), cop not an officer of the peace, still? What the corruption brings is you cant trust it to be the truth, in each case. You have to verify by it is correct, by testing it. If it have the air of truth, it will not be said to be corrupt, unless you see what is better, the control example/specimen. when the part that is implausible is tested, you see it failing, always. it will be opposite to the control specimen, the standart of truth.corrupted parts will always disagrees with normal human mind. |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by Almuhandis: 12:21am On Oct 27, 2010 |
 seyibrown: |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by Sweetnecta: 3:18am On Oct 27, 2010 |
^^^^^Your bold. Almuhandis is a corruption. That means Almuhandis is not a trustworthy person. he is a filth. he is first class con. he is the father of Ode. Almuhandis is a male. This means with all his shady qualities above, he is actually a male human. Can we anyone ask if he is not a human being with all of the less than human qualities he carries in his heart? It will be a bad question, since he is not a woman and we know he is not an animal. We can therefore use Almuhandis to defend the existence of mankind on earth, since some human quality (gender and physiology) are common in humanity. This is similar to why we can go to the Bible, because there are still small amount of gari in the overwhelming huge amount of water in the bowl, with the sand that settles in the bottom. |
| Re: The Bible Defends Muhammad Rasulullah (as). by vedaxcool(m): 5:24pm On Oct 27, 2010 |
Sweetnecta: Common sense they say is no common, as corrupted simply indicates the presence of filth yet this word has turned to amother 3 In 1 saga to aljanu and his deputy seyi. Hope from this, you can honestly understand what we are talking about, No? then go back to primary school or stop posting all together. |
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