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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 4:02pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:The shame is directly pointed at you because while I have proven just like most of the participants, scripturally that God never supports or permits homosexuals, you are still trying to get evasive,manipulative and insulting....and to make matters worse,you are still yet to provide scriptures to prove your submissions! Like I said earlier,prove your assertions with scriptures or be silent and stop spread lies about our father and God! Am still trying to wonder how hard it is to back you claims with scriptures! 2 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 4:07pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
openmine:I have provided enough scriptures and explained in my post how what you believe in are deliberate lies and falsehoods There is nothing wrong anywhere and God hasn't, never and didn't say anything is wrong with gays. openmine:Shame on you for cursing, what God has not cursed. Are you trying to deny that Leviticus 20:13 and her sister Leviticus verse, along with others in NT have nothing to do with consensual adults in faithful, loving etcetera same sex relationships huh? 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 4:31pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Please where are the scriptures? If you have them,provide them here for all to see! Not twists or evasion! Your constant one line repetitions does not in any way stop you from proving that God supports homosexuals! Curse? If you are saying God supports such acts,you are also saying he loves such acts too! Be reminded that its only what you love that you permit! So bro I don't like stories or long grama! Just prove me wrong by showing me scriptures where God permits,allows and loves homosexual acts! The joke is on you! 2 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 4:42pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff You made an assertion that God loves homosexuals! The first thing you were supposed to do is make your submissions and your proofs so that it gets easier to comprehend! You are even supposed to counter our scriptures with superior scriptures, instead you kept using your own logic and at times, sentiments to pathetically and fruitlessly prove your assertions! I have done my part by providing scriptures... at least you won't accuse me of that! However,I can't say the same about you! If you have the scriptures, bros,state it clearly! This whole grama and lately,manipulative path taken by you won't fly! Either you have scriptures or you don't have it! We are not here for e-fight but to learn and also make corrections! 2 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 4:42pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
openmine:Explain to me, what particularly is the act that bugs you, what act gangan have you got beef with and why specifically do you have been with it or why it bugs you? 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 4:46pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Bros your latest post is to be quite honest unnecessary! Whatever bugs me about homosexuality is the case here! I need the scriptures that specifically states that God supports and allows homosexual acts from you! The intentions of homosexuality whether good or bad is inconsequential! Just show me where God permits homosexuality! Thank You! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 5:26pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
openmine:Ogbeni, stop this charade, the scriptures you provided, I have to some degree exposed the interpretation as a sham and fraudulent. What you believe in has no legs to stand on You cannot deny that the context of each and every one of the scriptures you put forward and up, have nothing to do with consensual adults in a faithful, caring, loving, kind hearted same sex relationships. It is a fact and truth that those verses originally are talking of ritual sex performed during fertility god worship. This was done under the make believe that divine blessings is obtained from indulging in such ritualistic sex. Male temple prostitutes made their services available for willing patrons or participants. Even those who weren't naturally gay, at times indulge in these sex orgies. There are more to tell, but these bit of information seem for now, for all its worth adequate. openmine:It is quite necessary, as it is an enquiry The title of the thread started with the word "deconstructing". I have given enough scriptures and explanation doing just that and enough for you and anyone to be provoke to the point of cross-checking like the Bereans, whether or not, what I've submitted and advanced is true or not. Please don't be expecting me to Bob the Builder you. Go over that my very long 3-section lengthy post very carefully, you'll find where I said God didn't mind or Jesus wasn't bothered about people in same sex relationships You don't need scriptures, what you need is a change of heart. You need a paradigm shift. You need to change how you see homosexuality. Do those, then thank me later, not before then. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 5:37pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Bro I don't care what what you call me and I have read and even perused your long post and I have seen no single scripture that you have used to buttress your points! The only thing you succeeded in doing is trying in vain and fruitlessly to dispute clear enough scriptures! Yet you haven't provided any....if indeed you had scriptures, you would have quickly provided it an initio and saved us the burden of this back and forth! But unfortunately, not one scripture was used to prove that God permits homosexuality! Ohh yes I need scriptures because if you were using these aimless grammars or scripture less long post,I would not have graced this thread! But to think you were confident about proving scriptures only for you to end up trying to dispute that of others shows you have little or no scripture to offer! Your latest and hilarious usage of manipulation and evasion to garner sentiments from the lgbt group is nothing but the last kick of a dying horse! 3 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 6:13pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
openmine:openmine, I haven't called you anything, except for using endearing form of addressing for someone in a friendly way. 1/ Have you noticed that you haven't denied what I've said about Leviticus 20:13 and her sister Leviticus verse.? 2/ Have you noticed that you haven't refuted that Leviticus 20:13, her sister Leviticus verse and other NT verses had nothing to do with consensual adults in faithful, caring, loving until death do them apart same sex relationships? 3/ Have you noticed that you couldn't articulate what bugs you in homosexuality acts? 4/ Have you noticed you could not say, in clear and uncertain terms what beef you have with homosexuals and/or homosexuality acts? 5/Have you noticed you are unable to say why consensual adults in faithful, loving, caring, kind hearted same sex relationships is evil, bad and wrong? 6/ Have you noticed that you have been unable to say that what I have written about changing words from their original meaning and the culture of saying things the Bible, didnt say, didnt mean and never say is not true, hmm? All you've done is so selective reading, burying your head in the sand and doing a perfect sheer living in denial. Keep on laughing erh, because that's what you are, a joke, you are a joke and before you say it, thats not been insulting, it's just a honest observation. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 6:33pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Whatever your reason for the name calling is unimportant! I know how your likes do during an argument esp when you have run out of bullets! bro no need for the questions....just provide scriptures showing that God accepts,welcomes,allows and permits homosexuality! That's all I ask from you! All these back and forth won't change my stance! I won't reply your questions until you are able to show or provide scriptures to back up your analogy! No need for the evasive and rhetorical stance to cover up the fact that you can't come up with a single scripture to fulfill ur analogy about homosexuality! Just provide scriptures or be silent and allow your other supporters provide scriptures to assist you in proving that God permits homosexuality! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:13pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
openmine:Chief, nobody is name calling you ooo. There hasnt been anything insulting or demeaning in the sweet and endearing way I've addressed you openmine:I have gunpowder and loads of ammo ready and more than enough for the Battle of Armageddon openmine:You must be a learner. Discoveries are made by questioning answers, and advances are made by you answering questions. If I am really bro to you, you would kindly and willing have answered questions as and when asked you openmine:"1So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus 2And because you belong to him, the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death." - Romans 8:1-2 The above scripture mention, is not a first time appearance on this thread openmine:You've just with "... back and forth... " taken me down memory lane and reliving Cameo frontman, Larry Blackmon singing "Back And Forth". It reminded me of when that "Gbẹdu" (i.e. music) de enter my body. openmine:Do I look like I care?. My life doesnt depend on you answering or not answering. openmine:What analogy am I fulfilling? openmine:Lokatew. I guarantee you that if I am to provide you with scriptures, your eyes will still not clear, so why should I bother, what benefit are the ones already provided, hmm. Abeggy, comot for road jor, make better pesin enter o jaare. Shey, facts dey lie ni? Denying the truth doesn't change facts kẹ. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 7:43pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:MuttleyLaff, pls stop mentioning my moniker all over your posts if you'd not direct your responses to me. Enough of this joke Biko. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Nobody: 8:03pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Demonising homosexual acts? I m not the one judging homosexuality, it is the word of God. You call me a liar because, you reject the truth of God's word. You call homosexuality a loving act, the loving acts the brings the wrath of God. You have turn this to a personal attacks. Back to The question muttylaff show me from the bible where God support homosexuality? The evil of homosexuality because God's word say so Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. A perverse person will go to any length to defend perversity. 2 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Nobody: 8:05pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
Still waiting for muttylaff to bring scriptures instead of long epistles |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:19pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
Shepherd00:Oya coman beat me now for mentioning your moniker, your copyrighted moniker abi? Maybe I should stop giving you attention 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:19pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
solite3:You mean your imagined word of God solite3:Look at pot trying to call snow black solite3:As loving as a heterosexual act solite3:Personal attack on falsehood, yes solite3:Not that it will make a difference, even when I already had, if only you paid attention. solite3:You didnt see the memo that Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:27, is not and never about your figmemt of imagination evil of homosexuality solite3:That is exactly what you are doing solite3:Extraordinary lies require extraodinary long epistles 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Nobody: 8:24pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:save yourself all these unnecessary banter and do justice to my question. Show me where God support homosexuality in the bible. Note: No rhetoric 3 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:41pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
solite3:You really think this is a circus, right, hmm. That there is harmless fun going on, isnt it. SMH. solite3:If you really and sincerely had read all my posts so far on this thread, and you thoughtfully paid attention when reading, you would have spotted where solite3:Dont bother, give it a rest please. I wanted you to explain what's the context of the Leviticus chapter 20 and how Leviticus 20:13 fits in with the greater theme of Leviticus 20 itself but for you to sincerely, truthfully and honestly explain it is a big big problem. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 8:44pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Chia! What can be so hard in just quoting and responding to my post separately from others? hmm? MuttleyLaff:No, it's not about reading, it's about where to quote in other to respond. You sir, are impossible. MuttleyLaff: In other words, 'Let everything reproduce according to its kind is false? . You run around graping straws everywhere even when they slip through your hands, you fight to hold unto them. From Animals to birds, to fish, to man let everything reproduce according to it's kind. Pls how does homosexuality fit into this. Is there a reason why God instructed that Noah took in each specie of animals two pairs? Pls tell me why. Were they also gay ones amongst them? MuttleyLaff:Yes, i'd ask the name of the homosexual and the passage of the Bible it is recorded that a homosexual built a Church for the Israelites. Who was he and how do I verify it? MuttleyLaff:Empty words MuttleyLaff. empty words. MuttleyLaff:I will ask you questions Muttley, you cannot help for explain to me what you affirm. And, how is their percentage my problem? Do you know how many Nazarites were it Israel? God used the few. So, if He approves of homosexuals, it will be mentioned, at least once. Do you remember Rehab? She was a prostitute, she was mentioned, despite God pronouncing that no Israelite shd be a prostitute. She was not only mentioned, she became a Matriarch. Do you remember Ruth? She was a Moabitess, The Lord commanded that His people shd not marry her tribe, A Jew married her any way and She become an Ancestor of the Lord. MuttleyLaff, why does homosexuality always follow with negative pronouncements everytime it is referenced in the Bible? MuttleyLaff:Like who and who were prohibited? They must not be priests or prophets to be used of God remember? Cyrus was a Gentle, not a Jew, but God used him. The Father of Jeroboam who sculpted stones for the Temple of Solomon was not a Jew, he was from Tyre, but God used him. Balaam was a Soothsayer from Syria, not a Jew, but God used him. So I go on? Why was homosexuality always mentioned in the negative? As in these passages; C.E.V (US Version) 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Don't you know that evil people won't have a share in the blessings of God's kingdom? Don't fool yourselves! No one who is immoral or worships idols or is unfaithful in marriage or is a pervert or ~~~behaves like a homosexual~~~ will share in God's kingdom. They (the sodomites) called out to Lot and asked, “Where are the men who came to visit you tonight? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!” Lot went outside to them, shut the door behind him, and said, “I urge you, my brothers, ~~~don’t do such a wicked thing.”~~~ Jude 1:7 So also Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighboring towns, since they indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire in a way similar to these angels, are now displayed as an example by suffering the punishment of eternal fire. . 1 Kings 14:24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel. 1 Kings 15:12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made. C.E.V. Judges 19:22-23 They were having a good time, when some worthless men of that town surrounded the house and started banging on the door and shouting,~~~ “A man came to your house tonight. Send him out, so we can have sex with him!”~~~ The old man went outside and said, “My friends, please ~~~don't commit such a horrible crime ~~~~against a man who is a guest in my house. C.E.V.Judges 20:12-13 The tribes of Israel sent messengers to every town and village in Benjamin. And wherever the messengers went, they said, “How could those worthless men in Gibeah ~~~do such a disgusting thing?~~~ We can't allow such a terrible crime to go unpunished in Israel!~~~~ Hand the men over to us, and we will put them to [death].” But the people of Benjamin refused to listen to the other Israelites. MuttleyLaff why does the Act of Homosexuality in the Bible always accompanies death? Pls, let's concentrate on these verses. Pls tell me. You kept screaming that I was intimidated by you, now you complain of me asking you questions. Pls answer me. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 8:49pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
Ranchhoddas:I only need to know why everytime the Act was mentioned what follows was a sentence of death. If God approves of it why was it held against? |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 8:59pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:The hell with the stupid attention. If you want to give me attention, then direct my post to me, stop being childish. Now to know I'm not shaking by you, why not be a man and do what men do? There's no way I'd be able to quote and respond to what you cramped together up there. The Leviticus' you quoted is laughable MuttleyLaff. I was looking to see where any of those other abominations backed death as a sentence, but only Homosexuality did. Try again man. Hahahahahahaha. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 9:14pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Like i said its unimportant...and am the least bothered! MuttleyLaff: You obviously look like one who has none.Another meaning for a rhetorical dude is "i have run out of steam" MuttleyLaff: At least am a learner and a good one...i cant say the same for you! If you knew so much,why is it taking you forever to provide a simple proof to corroborate your hilarious claims If you cant answer a question and instead ask another question,it means you have virtually nothing to offer! MuttleyLaff: ....who walk not after the flesh but the spirit...i guess you forgot that part Secondly,the scripture you put up does not say that God approves of their acts...he has not condemned the man but that doesn't mean he approves or supports their acts! So are you saying that once there is no condemnation,a person can continue to indulge in sin? MuttleyLaff: That scripture says nothing about God approving of homosexual acts! Please where did it state that God approves of homos? MuttleyLaff: Yeah back and forth...you do so in order to mask your deficiencies MuttleyLaff:And do i look like am going to change my stance? The joke is on you to prove that God supports homosexuals! If Romans 8:1-2 is your patiently awaited proof that God supports and approves of homosexuals then i was right all along that your submissions were nothing but a joke and a futile and preposterous attempt to prove ridiculously that God supports homos! MuttleyLaff: Read! You have no scripture to back your homosexuality claims! MuttleyLaff: Ohh please stop these your evasive tactics...its not only stale but also disappointing! If you have the scriptures,show it and not this regurgitated path that you have audaciously resorted to! Chai 2 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by bloodofthelamb(m): 9:24pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
[color=#000000][/color][font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] MuttleyLaff: MuttleyLaff: Thanks for the compliment! muttleyLaff, I do not agree with you that God sees nothing wrong in homosexuality (Men having canal knowledge of themselves, thereby defiling their body which is the temple of God). Men having a sexual relationship with their fellow men is not God's original intent/will. Homosexuality entered the world through sin. Homosexuality defeats God's purpose and will. The will of God is that a man(male) will leave his parents and cleave unto his wife(female) and both of them will become one. Some people might be born with homosexual tendencies but that does it make it right muttleylaff. Will you say does born blind or born with some other deficiency is alright? Homsexuality is not the norm, hence abnormal. Muttleylaff, you can't say God sees nothing untoward towards a man beding his fellow man. Pls pray, tell me how is that compatible? The anus in general, was never made for sex and its natural use is for excretal (I stand to be corrected though, that is if I am wrong here). Men have left the natural use of things and there bodies, they have inclined themselves to the unnatural ( this also was Paul's argument in Romans 1). Man and man is never compatible sexually, even so He who made them, never made them to be in the beginning. Homsexuality is a strange desire allien to the manisfesto of the Creator. Muttleylaff, homo is part of the work of the enemy that Jesus came in the flesh to destroy. 2 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 9:36pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
bloodofthelamb:Once again you are spot on with your brief and on point submissions 2 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 10:40pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff I can spot you peeping. Haven't you seen my post? |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by bloodofthelamb(m): 10:41pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
bloodofthelamb: Network is really bad here, I will modify this post later because this not all I have to say. Pls bare with for quoting twice. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 3:52am On Jun 08, 2019 |
openmine:Why bring it up in the first place, if you really arent bothered openmine:You would say this, wouldnt you openmine:Not that it has served you any good openmine:You are a troll. openmine:What act are you on about, what pato gangan, in the act is giving you grief, hmm? I've asked you many times and different ways over but you are unable to explain what specifically, is wrong, evil or bad in the act openmine:If you say so then fair dos, my friend openmine:Kk openmine:Look at the title of this thread and check out the meaning of first word starting the title or subject heading openmine. My submission has done just about that, so please, just already, suck it up and deal with it. OK? openmine:Oh please, stop the strawman mining my Ogbeni friend openmine:You really are serious with this your straw man mining business shenanigan, erh? 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 3:52am On Jun 08, 2019 |
bloodofthelamb:It is always nice to receive a compliment and it is very inexpensive to give one. What is with our self styled cheerleader mutual friend openmine, making it his point of duty, to turn up every time and be patting you on the back, literally for each and every comment you make on this thread, hmm? bloodofthelamb:bloodofthelamb, you dont have to agree with me that God sees nothing wrong in homosexuality, as in, men having canal knowledge of themselves, thereby defiling their body which is the temple of God, as, we can agree to disagree and shake hands over it bloodofthelamb:Out of curiosity, how, when and where did homosexuality enter the world through sin? bloodofthelamb:Infertiles of all manner of sort, too defeats God's purpose and will, but God has no hang ups over them now bloodofthelamb bloodofthelamb:So? Is it only one road that leads to the market ni? bloodofthelamb:You didnt finish this section off, but I guess the truncated last word (i.e. ten) was going to be "tendency", right? You are correct, some people have the tendency to have homosexual behaviour because partly due to epigenetics, are born from the womb that way, others just adopt to be gay, like for financial reason or whatnot, case in point, will be our own and home grown, Denrele, Bobrisky etcetera bloodofthelamb, did you at all managed to read the true life story incident I shared earlier on this thread, hmm? Never mind, I'll repeat it here so that you'll get a bit of perspective on that my "some... due to epigenetics, are born from the womb that way" comment. The person, in this true life story incident, is a grown man now and is enjoying a lovingly same sex attraction relationship, supported by his mum, dad, sisters and brothers, I mean supported by the entire family, dog and all in short, but here is the most interesting part of the story and my favourite part of the story, his mum fondly recalls that, when the man was three years old, he passingly, you know like innocent kids do, that very one bright early morning day, said to her: "Mommy, when I grow up, I want to marry daddy" How does one explain, a three year old boy coming out and saying at that age, that when he grows up, he wants to marry Daddy and not Mummy, hmm bloodofthelamb? It comes from the pit of hell, right, I second-guess, you'll say hmm abi? bloodofthelamb, I know you highly respect and hold in the utmost regard Pastor John MacArthur. Well guess what, Pastor John MacArthur, accepts and agrees with me that the context of Leviticus 18 and Leviticus 20, when talking about the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 contents, has nothing to do with homosexuals per se, had nothing to do with acts going on between consensual adult in homosexuality, or homosexuals/lesbians and/or same sex attraction and union(s), especially one that is in, a kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, not harmful and committed life long until death do them part relationships. He in fact, admits and concedes that, they are all what I said, it is and they are, in that my lengthy 3-part long post bloodofthelamb. I am sorry, bloodofthelamb, for being the one telling you this also, but Pastor John MacArthur, on record, actually too, admits that the context of 1 Corinthians 6:9 was temple prostitution and had nothing to do with homosexual acts per se. Along the way bloodofthelamb, have you caught up with the latest news that happened earlier this week erh? That the pope, is pushing to have part of the word(s) in Matthew 6:9-13 Lord's Prayer in the Bible changed? So too, Pastor John MacArthur changed his perspective on the context of 1 Corinthians 6:9 as temple prostitution matter, as well as, Leviticus 18 and Leviticus 20, when talking about the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 content subject so much that he is now saying them verses are talking about idolatry and not homosexuality. Go investigate the issue, check whether or not Pastor John MacArthur said this. in order to verify the facts. I dont do rumors nor share questionable information. Go fact check, go research everything I wrote, in that my lengthy 3-part long post, in order to verify the facts. bloodofthelamb:I noticed the ending part of your post, appeared truncated, but still got the full gist of what you were trying to say. Notice I mentioned something about your unfinished post. That is Ibadan network for you. cc TV01, Goshen360, elated177, Image123, jesusjnr, luvmijeje, budaatum, Ranchhoddas, ThothHermes, VBCampaign, Michellekabod2, Baddiezz, Agrogbeide, Shepherd00, kkins25, fykes, EmperorHarry, Heathen777, Ubenedictus, FOLYKAZE, Paraltero, alBHAGDADI, Maestro21, shadeyinka, HappyPagan, ujnwachukwu, openmine, solite3 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 5:29am On Jun 08, 2019 |
Shepherd00:Shepherd00 please stop this below par reasoning, so you dont know that procreation is a means to an end, and isnt really the end itself, hmmm Shepherd00:Shepherd00? Shepherd00? Shepherd00? How many times did I call you? Please tell me this is a joke question Shepherd00:In the way you are behaving and doing now, you do not qualify to know. You might find out from someone else, but at least I wont be divulging that info to you Shepherd00:Time is a snitch, time will tell if empty words or not Shepherd00:Do you always have to argue, just for arguing sake, hmm? So you now want to compare a Nazarine with same sex attraction minority couples hmm? Abeggy leave and free me jor Shepherd00:16 The LORD said to Moses, 17 “Say to Aaron: ‘For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God. 18 No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; 19 no man with a crippled foot or hand, 20 or who is hunchbacked or dwarfed, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles. 21 No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the offerings made to the LORD by fire. He has a defect; he must not come near to offer the food of his God. 22 He may eat the most holy food of his God, as well as the holy food; 23 yet because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary. I am the LORD, who makes them holy. - Leviticus 21:16-23 Are you at all familiar with the above Leviticus 21:16-23 scripture? I am just asking ni ooo and just tried, bringing it, to your remembrance Shepherd00:Shepherd00, this is a Bible 101 question, and funnily enough the answer to the question I already and/or have previously answered in my post on this thread Shepherd00:Look above, you'll see who and who were prohibited Shepherd00:The first 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 scripture, as I've already said in my lengthy 3-part long post, has nothing to do with homosexual Now with or about the rest of the other scriptures you've put up there, if upon what I've so far written in that my lengthy 3-part long post, you still cant see why the negativity, then, I think your problem is bigger than me to be of any assistance for you. You will need Holy Spirit intervention and top up. Shepherd00:As much as I love this question, I still doubt your sincerety. You are asking this question because you have no idea of the context of Leviticus 18 and Leviticus 20 since you're only concerned with just by itself the Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 content The kind of act of Homosexuality in the Bible that always accompanies death is the sort that as I passingly mentioned in my lengthy 3-part long post revolves around ritual sex performed during fertility god worship. This was done, under the make believe that divine blessings is obtained from indulging in such ritualistic sex. Male temple prostitutes made their services available for willing patrons or participants. Even those who weren't naturally gay, at times indulge in these sex orgies. Textual context cannot be divorced entirely from biblical context Shepherd00, the evidence is there, that idolatry and with fertility gods, lust, temple sex, temple prostitution and promiscuous sex are the subject matter of Leviticus 18 and Leviticus 20 chapters, that feature Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. Idolatry and with fertility gods, lust, temple sex, temple prostitution and promiscuous sex matter, that incidentally were dealt with in that Romans 1 chapter are the themes of those scripture "No Israelite, whether man or woman, may become a temple prostitute." - Deuteronomy 23:17 "There were even male shrine prostitutes in the land; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the LORD had driven out before the Israelites." - 1 Kings 14:24 When you look at scriptures, like Deuteronomy 23:17 and 1 Kings 14:24 above, you'll discover that all these illusions and false idea or beliefs were happening in the area before the Israelites arrived to inherit the land. The pagans believed they obtain divine blessing by indulging in ritualstic sex at the temple, this practice and mind thinking is what God was against. The thought and the act also, is what God found detestable. It not only was promiscious, there is cheating, betrayal, unfaithfulness, adultery, fornication etcetera going on. The only way God can stop this practice and indicate the severity, is by punishment by death. I hope this made matters clearer. By the way and in fairness, even heterosexual acts are mentioned in the negative, just as certain homosexual acts are, and are levelled with appropiate punishments ranging up to stoning by death Shepherd00 Shepherd00:I have done already. Look up Shepherd00:I never screamed, so please stop being petty, and I am not complaining that you ask me questions, rather I typed something in the line of: "Please stop asking me unreasonable questions, especially when in the sight of facts" Shepherd00:I have already given you a high level overview response above to this request nau Shepherd00. Shepherd00:I made that comment, because I thought you wanted to beat me up for mentioning your moniker ni Shepherd00:Hmm, you try. Shepherd00:Didnt expect you to respond, just find a quiet place, to carefully and thoughtfully read the stuff, was what I advised you. Shepherd00:Never mind, it isnt the first time whoosh over your head it went or happened Shepherd00:Bodi nobi wood, abeggy, carry una Mister peeping tom, vigilante, Nairaland neighbourhood watch wahala go. You think say, I dont listen to my body, erh? Make I no sleep, hmm? I saw your post alright, but left it replied to, unfinished because I went to sleep. I actually was fast asleep whilst still appearing present on the thread 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 9:01am On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: I believed you read what I said right?....unimportant! In other words,it doesn't contribute to the discussion! Not a troll get used to it....funny enough,you give a label when its obvious that you tact has been discovered! I have my reasons for detesting homosexual acts but we are not talking about opinions but about the scriptures...sticking to that without being evasive and rhetorical would have been nice...but I already know why you can't come up with a single scripture to buttress your point! You have done absolutely nothing to prove that your watery submissions can be used to justify why God supports and allows homosexual acts! No wonder you call me a troll...because I keep pointing out your insincerity and the fact that you are yet to offer a single scripture to prove your assertions which are basically borne out of your own logic rather that of the scriptures! Honestly,you have nothing to offer to your submissions in terms of scriptures! Any time you are asked to offer scriptures you start running from pillar to post trying to use sentiments and psychological questions to drag me into the messy hole you dug for yourself! Mr/bro MuttleyLaff,just know one thing....am not going to change my stance despite your best efforts to make me go down that path with you! I will keep insisting that you provide scriptures to back your shocking and futile submissions! You can't make a preposterous statement that God allows,permits and supports homosexual acts and instead of using scriptures and corresponding scriptures to prove your points,you end up using your personal opinion to defend your submissions! 2 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 9:05am On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: I agree with his submissions on this discus! If that gives me a tag of a cheerleader...no probs...never said i was complaining If you have a problem with that then that's your business! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Image123(m): 9:21am On Jun 08, 2019 |
I've been somehow mentioned several times on this thread but no notifications. Seun, I'm a lazy man, how do I start going through these pages na? MuttleyLaff should be banned oh, the posts too long na. 1 Like 1 Share |
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