Abagworo:

@ibime.be careful what you type especially if you are using a bb or personal registered modem.I got a warning call yesterday because of my comments on nairaland telling me my position.

ferari90:

that's exactly what they do now

!!!!!Dem go tire !!!!!!!!!!!

JONATHAN GRIDLOCK is behind it

ferari90:

that's exactly what they do now

!!!!!Dem go tire !!!!!!!!!!!

JONATHAN GRIDLOCK is behind it

jabbok:

GRIDLOCK indeed.
. . .

jabbok:

@ Beaf, Who bombed Jonathan's country home in Bayelsa? Can you refute the fact that all the illegal bombs in Nigeria are from the creeks of Niger Delta?

[size=14pt]Union leaders suspended for exposing missing explosives[/size]
From EMMANUEL ADEYEMI, Lokoja
Thursday, July 08, 2010

The end may not have been heard on the recent sudden disappearance of 100 cartons of explosives in the National Iron Ore Mining Corporation, Itakpe. This is because the union leaders who allegedly exposed the disappearance of the high calibre explosives were recently handed letters of indefinite suspension from office.

The Interim Management Committee of the company was said to be infuriated over the petition written by the union leaders to the office of the Minister of Mines and Steel and for causing it to be published in some newspapers.
Daily Sun had in June reported the sudden disappearance of the explosives from the stores of the company and the alarm raised by the union members on the inherent dangers it posed to the society especially in the next year’s general elections.

In the petition sent to the Ministry of Mines and Steel and copied to some security agencies, the union leaders raised suspicion on certain officials in the company and called on the Federal Government to institute a panel of inquiry to get to the root of the disappearance of the explosives.

But rather than investigate the allegations, the Interim Management Committee of the company recently slammed an indefinite suspension order on the affected union members all in a bid to sweep the allegations under the carpet.
In a letter signed by Musa Bello, co-ordinator, (Admin), on behalf of the vice chairman of the Interim Committee and dated June 10, the suspension notice was conveyed to the union members.

Those suspended were Abdulmaleeq Mohammed (ISSAN chairman), Abdul Ganiyu (SEWUN) chairman, Ilesanmi Julius (ISSAN Secretary) and Yusuf Mohammed Omeiza (SEWUN secretary). The letter of suspension also conveyed a notice to the affected union leaders to appear before a disciplinary committee to defend their actions and urged them to hand over all the company property in their possession to the appropriate quarters.

Part of the letter reads: “Management finds the said petition and publication to be false, made without authority and in complete disregard of the company’s rules regarding settlement of grievances.” The suspension letter also alleged that the union leaders had failed to respond to an earlier query issued to them by the company’s management.

But in a swift reaction, one of the union leaders was quoted as saying the said query letter had since been answered and conveyed to the appropriate authority and alleged that the management was only trying to victimize the union leaders instead of fishing out the thieves. The union leader said the allegation of the disappearance of the 100 cartons of explosives was not false as claimed by management saying theft actually took place in the corporation.
Meanwhile, Daily Sun gathered that security agents had swooped into action to unravel the sudden disappearance or otherwise of the said explosives.

Kobojunkie:

Correction ---> I DO HAVE TO BELIEVE Okah's statement; I don't have to because there is no reason here to BELIEVE OR NOT BELIEVE . . . If you know me well, you will know that when it comes to issues, especially pertaining to Nigeria, I HATE TAKING SIDES . . . I find it is one of the biggest mistakes we make as a people and a nation.

The way the law works is simple. You have one side of the story and until you are able to disprove or prove the validity of that version, all you still have is that version to go with.

So far, what we have is Okah's version of what happened to work with. Not a single person, not even the so called SSS officers has come out to say "No, it did not happen that way" or  put forth a definite on what happened instead. All we have heard or been fed with from the other side are shoddy reasons on why Okah is probably(not DEFINITELY) wrong or Okah is likely guilty or Okah never said anything. Not even the president himself, even after his debacle with MEND over the week, has been quoted as saying Okah is definitely guilty of charges or never made the interview.

Think about it for a minute . Imagine waking up to something similar happening, say in the US, and the FBI descending to the level our so called SSS has on this issue? Don't you think the world will be calling for the truth to be revealed immediately? Don't you think the world will smell something is definitely amiss?

Again, he owes you and I nothing at this time ; if you want to believe he is guilty, then maybe you would think he owes you and others answers or something. I am operating on the grounds that he is still innocent until proven guilty on this one because I have yet to read of the evidence proving he had a hand in this one.

mbulela:

This is a country governed by lies, rumours and deceit.
we have sunk so low that we believe a man like Okah.
I guess in our desperation and disappointment in the inept barbarians running the show at the centre, we are looking for hope in any one, even Okah.
I do not believe GEJ nor Okah.
They are both liars and deceitful characters.
[size=13pt] suprisingly, the truth might never be known and we would continue our downward slope towards the abyss as a nation.[/size]

Correction ---> I DO HAVE TO BELIEVE Okah's statement; I don't have to because there is no reason here to BELIEVE OR NOT BELIEVE . . . If you know me well, you will know that when it comes to issues, especially pertaining to Nigeria, I HATE TAKING SIDES . . . I find it is one of the biggest mistakes we make as a people and a nation.

The way the law works is simple. You have one side of the story and until you are able to disprove or prove the validity of that version, all you still have is that version to go with.

So far, what we have is Okah's version of what happened to work with. Not a single person, not even the so called SSS officers has come out to say "No, it did not happen that way" or put forth a definite on what happened instead. All we have heard or been fed with from the other side are shoddy reasons on why Okah is probably(not DEFINITELY) wrong or Okah is likely guilty or Okah never said anything. Not even the president himself, even after his debacle with MEND over the week, has been quoted as saying Okah is definitely guilty of charges or never made the interview.

Think about it for a minute . Imagine waking up to something similar happening, say in the US, and the FBI descending to the level our so called SSS has on this issue? Don't you think the world will be calling for the truth to be revealed immediately? Don't you think the world will smell something is definitely amiss?

Again, he owes you and I nothing at this time ; if you want to believe he is guilty, then maybe you would think he owes you and others answers or something. I am operating on the grounds that he is still innocent until proven guilty on this one because I have yet to read of the evidence proving he had a hand in this one.

favouredjb:

No one is saying okah can't make calls from the prison,we know there are pay phones,but to say he has his mobile fone with him is laughable,and he is able to receive txt messages?who is fooling who?

babasoty:

@Kobojunkie

Your getting me all confused with your arguments, you don't have to believe Okah or you believe him which?,

babasoty:

there's no version of the federal government here apart from Okah's, he says he was called by an aide of the president to refute the claim by MEND, The government has called him to open up on the name of the official and all he does is threaten to do it if he is being pushed further, is sitting in jail for a crime you didn't commit and an evidence to rope in the people you believe did it not enough reason for him to come clean on who called him,

babasoty:

What is he afraid of, everyone knows he is on a war path with the government so what's he scared of spilling,

babasoty:

I even pity the media houses who claimed he has called them,can't they pry him to divulge this information, for him not to means he doesn't have any.He made the claim not the government so he should say who called him. His 15 minutes of fame is over. He is a drowning man and he knows it.

mikeansy:

but why did beaf change his name to faeb?

I wish u will extend you U-turn to your choice of politics.

Kobojunkie:

I can see how a fellow Nigerian will find this one had to deal with. We are too used to taking sides on issues that we find it almost impossible to remove ourselves(not make it about our person and our view) and see things the way they really are. CORRECTION:
a) There is NO REPORT OF CALL BEING MADE BY THE GOVERNMENT TO DATE to Okah IN PRISON to open up on any names. That is YOUR ASSUMPTION there you are confusing with reality.
The only people we know from reports to today who have spoken to Okah since after this interview are a) his lawyer b) aljazeera c) his wife. Claiming Government called him in Jail to demand he names the one who called him is a stretch, don't you think? And you are the one likely injecting that without even thinking of how absurd that would be at this time.
b) If you have ever really been charged for any crime, your lawyer, if a good one, would likely advice you to play your aces right. Why are you harping on this? Why not spend more time to demand the government RIGHT THERE IN NIGERIA investigates it's office, if it is 100% that the call did not come from a close aide? The same government is all too willing to probe the spending of money it allocated/shared for the independence spending, what about an investigation into the allegations made against close aides? Imagine if someone had linked the white house to the Oklahoma bombing. Don't you think the white house would be tearing apart the president's close aides to ensure the allegations are false?
Now, I know we are speaking of Nigeria here and so no to expect any miracles, but seriously, I think you need to remove yourself from this so you start asking the right questions rather than attacking a man you are not even sure is guilty of the crimes leveled against him in this case. Why is your government dismissing this and offering nothing factual to support their dismissal of the allegations?a) His life and probably his freedom? What sort of question is thisYou are not making any sense at all, you know that? You have already condemned the man without even a fragment of evidence presented you that he is even involved in anyway, and you think you are on the right path and those who ask questions are someone irrational?

Anywho, I see this is getting nowhere for both of us. It is alright that you believe he is guilty of this. I will chose to wait to see the "truth" comes out on this and how it all fits in the end.

koruji:

@Kobojunkie
While the truth of this matter is yet to be clear, you do realize you are defending the honor of a gun runner. Right?

Kobojunkie:

Please stick to analyzing the post and not trying to read my mind, or injecting your delusions into it -- you are doing a terrible job there. sigh!

Kobojunkie:

I can see how a fellow Nigerian will find this one had to deal with. We are too used to taking sides on issues that we find it almost impossible to remove ourselves(not make it about our person and our view) and see things the way they really are. CORRECTION:
a) There is NO REPORT OF CALL BEING MADE BY THE GOVERNMENT TO DATE to Okah IN PRISON to open up on any names. That is YOUR ASSUMPTION there you are confusing with reality.
The only people we know from reports to today who have spoken to Okah since after this interview are a) his lawyer b) aljazeera c) his wife. Claiming Government called him in Jail to demand he names the one who called him is a stretch, don't you think? And you are the one likely injecting that without even thinking of how absurd that would be at this time.
b) If you have ever really been charged for any crime, your lawyer, if a good one, would likely advice you to play your aces right. Why are you harping on this? Why not spend more time to demand the government RIGHT THERE IN NIGERIA investigates it's office, if it is 100% that the call did not come from a close aide? The same government is all too willing to probe the spending of money it allocated/shared for the independence spending, what about an investigation into the allegations made against close aides? Imagine if someone had linked the white house to the Oklahoma bombing. Don't you think the white house would be tearing apart the president's close aides to ensure the allegations are false?
Now, I know we are speaking of Nigeria here and so no to expect any miracles, but seriously, I think you need to remove yourself from this so you start asking the right questions rather than attacking a man you are not even sure is guilty of the crimes leveled against him in this case. Why is your government dismissing this and offering nothing factual to support their dismissal of the allegations?a) His life and probably his freedom? What sort of question is thisYou are not making any sense at all, you know that? You have already condemned the man without even a fragment of evidence presented you that he is even involved in anyway, and you think you are on the right path and those who ask questions are someone irrational?

Anywho, I see this is getting nowhere for both of us. It is alright that you believe he is guilty of this. I will chose to wait to see the "truth" comes out on this and how it all fits in the end.

koruji:

@Kobojunkie
While the truth of this matter is yet to be clear, you do realize you are defending the honor of a gun runner. Right?

Evil Brain:

The truth is that Okah has just as much credibility as the ex-militants Jonathan is openly fraternizing with. He was an arms dealer and a member of MEND but he accepted the Government's amnesty just like Asari and co. so that's all in the past.

The only reason why everybody is blaming him for the bomb blast is because Jonathan's camp says he was responsible. As far as I know they haven't presented a shred of evidence linking him to the bombings. And if the events of the last few days (the Dokpesi text saga and Jonathan exonerating MEND) shows us anything it's that the Nigerian authorities are neither credible nor competent. Okah himself keeps insisting he had nothing to do with it.

Also, what little information we have about Okah suggests that he is a very unlikely culprit. We know he's been in South Africa for months and couldn't have planted the bombs without local help. We know that while he was involved with MEND he was mainly a supplier and was hardly involved with the operations (fighting and sabotage) side. We know that he had very few men under him then and probably none now.

And thanks to Al Jazeera we now know that there's a faction of MEND still active in the creeks. These guys have accepted responsibility for the explosions and have never claimed any relationship with Okah. I'd really like to know what the logic is behind the government ignoring the most obvious suspects and chasing after some guy in far-away SA who is so clearly out of touch with the angry Niger Delta youths that are MEND's main constituency. To assume that all the ex-militants in Nigeria are now born-again and thus above suspicion is beyond stup!d.

If Jonathan really wants to catch the bombers, he should start by asking his friends Tompolo, BoyLoaf and company who they think is responsible. He should ask them about their former strategies and where they were getting their money and weapons. She should ask them who among them is yet to lay down arms. I wouldn't be surprised if all or most of them had some guns and explosives stashed away

Then maybe he should try asking Al Jazeera for directions to the MEND camp they visited on September 29th. I'm sure they'll be glad to help.

koruji:


What we know about Okah was that after his release he went on to say that he will "continue the fight" - that is not what someone whose only job was supplying arms say when the warriors are planning to end the war.

The only fact that we know is that United States & U.K. intelligence provided information on this - and you can be sure they pointed some fingers. Untill that evidence becomes wholly public, understandably not so at this point, we must assume that each side has hidden information in what they are saying - inconsistencies may help us know when someone is telling outright lies, but we cannot be entirely sure for now.

Evil Brain:

What's wrong with defending him? The truth is that Okah has just as much credibility as the ex-militants Jonathan is openly fraternizing with. He was an arms dealer and a member of MEND but he accepted the Government's amnesty just like Asari and co. so that's all in the past.

The only reason why everybody is blaming him for the bomb blast is because Jonathan's camp says he was responsible. As far as I know they haven't presented a shred of evidence linking him to the bombings. And if the events of the last few days (the Dokpesi text saga and Jonathan exonerating MEND) shows us anything it's that the Nigerian authorities are neither credible nor competent. Okah himself keeps insisting he had nothing to do with it. 

Also, what little information we have about Okah suggests that he is a very unlikely culprit. We know he's been in South Africa for months and couldn't have planted the bombs without local help. We know that while he was involved with MEND he was mainly a supplier and was hardly involved with the operations (fighting and sabotage) side. We know that he had very few men under him then and probably none now.

And thanks to Al Jazeera we now know that there's a faction of MEND still active in the creeks. These guys have accepted responsibility for the explosions and have never claimed any relationship with Okah. I'd really like to know what the logic is behind the government ignoring the most obvious suspects and chasing after some guy in far-away SA who is so clearly out of touch with the angry Niger Delta youths that are MEND's main constituency. To assume that all the ex-militants in Nigeria are now born-again and thus above suspicion is beyond stup!d.

Kobojunkie:

 
Thank you for elaborating for those who are too close minded to see that we are once again about to let the truth get away from us in our quick bids to pick sides in this.  That seems all we are good for in that country. Rumors and lies --- we seem to value that more than truth unfortunately.

koruji:

@Evil Brain
No doubt there is a lack of clarity on what really happened here, as my statement implied. The problem is someone defending obvious inconsistencies in Okah's statements as if they KNEW what happened. You started out admitting that both sides of this issue are lacking in credibility, but then you went on to say that WE KNOW things that we really don't know - see the bolded part of your message below. While Okah was in prison under OBJ, did his gun-running stop? Who knows?

koruji:

What we know about Okah was that after his release he went on to say that he will "continue the fight" - that is not what someone whose only job was supplying arms say when the warriors are planning to end the war.

koruji:

The only fact that we know is that United States & U.K. intelligence provided information on this - and you can be sure they pointed some fingers. Untill that evidence becomes wholly public, understandably not so at this point, we must assume that each side has hidden information in what they are saying - inconsistencies may help us know when someone is telling outright lies, but we cannot be entirely sure for now.

koruji:

@Kobojunkie
I do not speak for anyone else. And between you, Evil Brain and me you two are the only ones choosing the side of someone whose known job is gun-running.
His statements contained inconsistencies, just like those emanating from the presidency - but you took it on yourself to defend his inconsistencies. And yes, the presidency called on him to name whoever called him. And, no they did not call him on the phone - they called on him same way he has been releasing all these statements that you hang on to - through the press.

Igwe.:

I see, some persons' duty as members of the anti-Gej administration is somewhat eating the better part of them.
Hope the remuneration is what the stress?