RTSC:

Miles ahead in what way?
Is it infrastructure, economy, or what?
How can they be miles ahead of a country with 25% of Africa's productivity.?

Aside from Nairobi which is not better than Lagos, let alone Abuja, what else is in Kenya?

Ordinary Kenya.

Kenya is miles ahead of Nigeria in quality of life, education spending, human capital, national airline, road quality, infrastructure index as of 2018, healthcare, mobile money technology, electrification rates, literacy rates, retail sector, economic diversification and stability, tourism, Human development index score, life expectancy and etc.
That's why thousands of frustrated jobless Nigerian youths are flocking Kenya en masse in search of quality life because life in Nigeria is unbearable and unsustainable.

Nairobi isn't better than any Nigerian city?
You must be high, Nairobi is the most dynamic African city and it's the top most preferred business travel destination as per 2019 world travel awards, it's the only African city which host regional giant multinationals like Google, Cisco, Wrigley, CTGN, BBC Africa, Coca-Cola and also giant global organization like UNEP and UN HABITAT etc. None of your cities have zero this privilege, in fact your cities are ranked among the worst cities to live in Africa.

Even Kenya's Jomo Kenyatta airport beats all West African airports by far in infrastructure and performance.
You Nigerians are just naturally ignorant and empty barrels making some stupid noise to other Africans as if they care about your country.

Visit the Kenya Nigeria thread and plum down your ignorance.

RTSC:

Many countries are ranked ahead of Nigeria in HDI same as India.

Overpopulation plays a role here. A country with a $10 billion economy but with 15 million should have a higher HDI than a $100billion economy that has 130 million people.
It is simple. It doesn't mean Kenya is better.

We are both developing countries,with Nigeria having by far the bigger economy.
And when you factor in corruption and overpopulation, it is not surprising that Kenya has a higher HDI than Nigeria.

Many countries in west Africa have a higher hdi than Nigeria, yet Nigeria account for 70% of the economy in the subregion.

Stop using population as an excuse to hide a white linen, why does US have a higher HDI than Nigeria despite it's bustling population of 300+ million, this is lame.

Kenya has a higher HDI than Rwanda yet its population is almost four times of Rwanda, does this means Kenya has a higher HDI than Rwanda due to its overpopulation? This reasoning is illogic and uncalled for.

Your low HDI is attributed to your failures to invest in indices of HDI such as life expectancy, healthcare, quality of life, access to water and among others backed by your corrupt politicians.

Instead of wasting your energy screaming to Kenyans how you're better than them in everything yet when analysis is done one by one, Kenya dethrones Nigeria in most aspects, you should reserve it for mega revolution against your corrupt politicians.

UniportAgbero:
Let them south Africans come and see how we best them. They even have more homicide cases and debt than us. Their unemployment Raye is centuries higher than ours.

This is madness, am not a south African but everyone in this continent knows south Africa is the most developed black nation in the world, something which Nigeria is 50 years behind south Africa.
It's very funny to compare Nigeria with south Africa in terms of development, south Africa beats you by far, even progressive African nations like Kenya, Rwanda and Botswana dethrones Nigeria in most basic development indices.A bitter fact.
That's why you'll entrench your anger backed up by your government failure to develop your country in the modest way and so you'll be consistently attacking Kenyans and south Africans online.
You guys are just jealous with these countries which Nigeria is trailing at

RTSC:

Bullshitt.
They don't have better infrastructure than Nigeria, sorry.

Standard of living is relative. Things are cheaper in Nigeria than most parts of Africa.

Though of course life can be a bit more peaceful in Kenya.
But it is.not necessarily because Kenya is better.
It is just that there is some level of chaos when you have 200 million people.

Have you been to India? Is Kenya better than India even though it is more peaceful and calm?

Check the 2018 infrastructure index and road quality between two countries, Kenya is ahead.
You're petty damn ignorant.

Yobeezy:


Stop using population as an excuse to hide a white linen, why does US have a higher HDI than Nigeria despite it's bustling population of 300+ million, this is lame.

Kenya has a higher HDI than Rwanda yet its population is almost four times of Rwanda, does this means Kenya has a higher HDI than Rwanda due to its overpopulation? This reasoning is illogic and uncalled for.

Your low HDI is attributed to your failures to invest in indices of HDI such as life expectancy, healthcare, quality of life, access to water and among others backed by your corrupt politicians.

Instead of wasting your energy screaming to Kenyans how you're better than them in everything yet when analysis is done one by one, Kenya dethrones Nigeria in most aspects, you should reserve it for mega revcolution against your corrupt politicians.

The US has a bigger economy than Africa combined.
So yes, you are right in a way.
But our economy is not that great to sustain such high HDI index for such a big population like america would.

So Nigeria would need to significantly grow the economy to at least a trillion dollars .

You keep talking about corruption as if it is only in Nigeria.
Kenya is also highly corrupt.

Though I understand the obsession with Nigeria. The Nigerian government are in charge of more wealth than anywhere else in Africa.
So the figures in Nigeria tends to be mind blowing.

RTSC:

The US has a bigger economy than Africa combined.
So yes, you are right in a way.
But our economy is not that great to sustain such high HDI index for such a big population like america would.

So Nigeria would need to significantly grow the economy to at least a trillion dollars .

You keep talking about corruption as if it is only in Nigeria.
Kenya is also highly corrupt.

Though I understand the obsession with Nigeria. The Nigerian government are in charge of more wealth than anywhere else in Africa.
So the figures in Nigeria tends to be mind blowing.

Yes Kenya is also a corrupt driven society but they're ranked ahead of Nigeria in most basic development indices currently, you can engage yourself in a research for this.

From population to economy? You sound funny.
Why does South Africa has a higher HDI than Nigeria yet Nigeria's economy is the biggest in Africa?

Your low HDI is propelled by just your failures to work on quality of life and among other human development indices, nothing more.

Having a big economy isn't a big achievement after all and has nothing to do with the development of a country, it only shows the total economic output of a given nation.
China has the second largest economy in the world, does it means it's better than other 193 nations in the world? Furthermore, your huge economic size is attributed to your oil and population.

If you claim your government controls large portion of economic wealth in Africa, then why are 100 million Nigerians living in abject poverty?
The largest figure in the world, Why don't they use those wealth appropriately to plummet poverty figures and improve human life?

WorWorBoy:
Look at this Monkey Kenyan is better than in what Aspect.?

Instead of throwing insults, just visit the Kenya Nigeria thread and peruse through from page one before you get heart attack.

IronGalaxy:
Travel a bit, you'll realise Naija is in the league of Djibouti

Djibouti is even better, they're lagging with war torn nations like DR Congo, Sudan and Sierra Leone.

edon21:
it's not good to be jealous. some Kenyans alleged that they don't listen to Nigerian music but incidentally they used davidos picture for an advert in their capital.

You've been screaming about this since time immemorial, please do show us a pic and by the way Nigerian songs don't even dominate Kenya's entertainment skyline including your poor quality witchcraft films.

Yobeezy:



Yes Kenya is also a corrupt driven society but they're ranked ahead of Nigeria in most basic development indices currently, you can engage yourself in a research for this.

From population to economy? You sound funny.
Why does South Africa has a higher HDI than Nigeria yet Nigeria's economy is the biggest in Africa?

Your low HDI is propelled by just your failures to work on quality of life and among other human development indices, nothing more.

Having a big economy isn't a big achievement after all and has nothing to do with the development of a country, it only shows the total economic output of a given nation.
China has the second largest economy in the world, does it means it's better than other 193 nations in the world? Furthermore, your huge economic size is attributed to your oil and population.

If you claim your government controls large portion of economic wealth in Africa, then why are 100 million Nigerians living in abject poverty?
The largest figure in the world, Why don't they use those wealth appropriately to plummet poverty figures and improve human life?

I don't know how to explain this to you.
It seems education in Kenya leaves a lot to be desired.

The countries with the best HDI in the world are Nordic countries.
Iceland,Finland, Norway, Sweden.
They have better HDI index than America, Canada, Germany.

What is common to those Nordic countries? Very low population.

Their economies cannot match the Germany or Americaof the world, but they have a better HDI than Germany.
Why? Less competition for resources.

Now bring that back to developing countries.
These countries are not developed yet. They are trying to develop.
Now add overpopulation into the mix and you have a much bigger responsibility even with a large economy.
One in every five African is a Nigerian. That is some serious responsibility that cannot be underestimated when it comes to resource allocation and its effect on HDI.

The only way to improve our HDI to world class standards is to reduce population growth and massively grow the economy to support the already existing overpopulation.

That is a responsibility the likes of Kenya will never be able to fathom or understand.
When your country has the same level of responsibility, then come back and tell me about HDI.

RTSC:

I don't know how to explain this to you.
It seems education in Kenya leaves a lot to be desired.

The countries with the best HDI in the world are Nordic countries.
Iceland,Finland, Norway, Sweden.
They have better HDI index than America, Canada, Germany.

What is common to those Nordic countries? Very low population.

Their economies cannot match the Germany or Americaof the world, but they have a better HDI than Germany.
Why? Less competition for resources.

Now bring that back to developing countries.
These countries are not developed yet. They are trying to develop.
Now add overpopulation into the mix and you have a much bigger responsibility even with a large economy.
One in every five African is a Nigerian. That is some serious responsibility that cannot be underestimated when it comes to resource allocation and its effect on HDI.

The only way to improve our HDI to world class standards is to reduce population growth and massively grow the economy to support the already existing overpopulation.

That is a responsibility the likes of Kenya will never be able to fathom or understand.
When your country has the same level of responsibility, then come back and tell me about HDI.

Lol, ignorance has taken a deep toll in your spine arguing for the sake of it.The problem with most Nigerians is that they are arrogant and have zero intelligence yet you'll be busy screaming that you're the most educated set of Africans.

Look, population has little to do with HDI of a nation, we just need to equip ourselves with the amount of resources we're embedded with in the modest way so as to leapfrog HDI score.Channel your resources in the right track of development and almost everything will improve, South Africa with her resources which they've been putting into proper use, has a higher HDI than Nigeria, in fact it beats Nigeria in all indices of development.

Look at Kenya, it doesn't have any natural resource or rather it's a human resource powered economy which is trying to improve the indices of development with the little they have though some few corruption snitches here and there.They beat Nigeria in almost every index of development including HDI yet they're less resource dependent, so shameful.

Nigeria with its vast natural resources can't still account for its resource wealth till to date as your bustling poverty figures and low HDI scores are concerned, your current hurdles makes you to fall in the bracket of war torn nations like DR Congo and Sudan.And then you'll be hear making noise to other Africans how you're better than them in this and that, nonsense.

If you claim that a country has a higher HDI due to its low population, please answer these boldly;

Why does China has a higher HDI score than Bangladesh yet its population is bigger than that of Bangladesh?

Why does South Africa has a higher HDI score than Zambia yet its population is bigger than that of Zambia?

Why does Kenya has a higher HDI score than Rwanda yet its population is bigger than that of Rwanda?

Am waiting..

edon21:
having another country sing your genre is not a big deal. afterall you guys copied your genre from america

And yet you made a big deal about house

XhosaNostra hi

Yobeezy:


Lol, ignorance has taken a deep toll in your spine arguing for the sake of it.The problem with most Nigerians is that they are arrogant and have zero intelligence yet you'll be busy screaming that you're the most educated set of Africans.

Look, population has little to do with HDI of a nation, we just need to equip ourselves with the amount of resources we're embedded with in the modest way so as to leapfrog HDI score.Channel your resources in the right track of development and almost everything will improve, South Africa with her resources which they've been putting into proper use, has a higher HDI than Nigeria, in fact it beats Nigeria in all indices of development.

Look at Kenya, it doesn't have any natural resource or rather it's a human resource powered economy which is trying to improve the indices of development with the little they have though some few corruption snitches here and there.They beat Nigeria in almost every index of development including HDI yet they're less resource dependent, so shameful.

Nigeria with its vast natural resources can't still account for its resource wealth till to date as your bustling poverty figures and low HDI scores are concerned, your current hurdles makes you to fall in the bracket of war torn nations like DR Congo and Sudan.And then you'll be hear making noise to other Africans how you're better than them in this and that, nonsense.

If you claim that a country has a higher HDI due to its low population, please answer these boldly;

Why does China has a higher HDI score than Bangladesh yet its population is bigger than that of Bangladesh?

Why does South Africa has a higher HDI score than Zambia yet its population is bigger than that of Zambia?

Why does Kenya has a higher HDI score than Rwanda yet its population is bigger than that of Rwanda?

Am waiting..

HDI has nothing to do with population?
lol
The concept of human development is population based.
The bigger the population, the higher the demand on resources, the lower the development.
It is as simple as that.
Kenya and Rwanda are both small countries, with relatively small economies.
Both play at the same level. There is really no much difference betweens both countries.
Kenya is richer than Rwanda so the population difference is not so much as to influence the HDI.
There is virtually nothing in Kenya that is not in Nigeria.
But how many people are competing for that becomes the question.

Look at this analogy. Nigeria has a GDP of 400billion dollars. By far the biggest economy on the continent.
Now divide the GDP by the population and you would find out that the GDP/capital of Nigeria is very small.
Smaller than many countries in africa.


It is the same with HDI. Our population is so big. Three times bigger than south Africa who is the second, which is very significant.
And most times the bigger the GDP/capital, the higher the HDI.
It is basic economics that even a 10 year old can understand.

I cannot discount the effect of corruption. Corruption is a problem, just like in virtually every part of Africa.

But over population is a critical factor.
The only way to increase our GDP/capital which is directly linked to HDI is by massively increasing our GDP so the population no longer becomes a factor.
If we have a GDP of 1 trillion dollars, there would be so much money to go round for maximum development, even when there is corruption.

Yobeezy:
XhosaNostra hi

Long time, no see. How are you?

XhosaNostra:


Long time, no see. How are you?

Am pretty fine thanks dear how about you?

RTSC:

HDI has nothing to do with population?
lol
The concept of human development is population based.
The bigger the population, the higher the demand on resources, the lower the development.
It is as simple as that.

Do you even understand what you're arguing about? HDI factors are quality of life, education levels, access to basic amenities and among others, if a country's resources matches its population whether it's huge or tiny and put it into proper use, then their HDI score leapfrogs as usual.

How can densely populated nations have low levels of development? China is the second most populated nation in the world and in real sense its development level is a top notch and a sophisticated one even surpassing those of sparsely populated nations.
Your reasoning is stale!

RTSC:

Kenya and Rwanda are both small countries, with relatively small economies.
Both play at the same level. There is really no much difference betweens both countries.
Kenya is richer than Rwanda so the population difference is not so much as to influence the HDI.
There is virtually nothing in Kenya that is not in Nigeria.
But how many people are competing for that becomes the question.

How does Kenya's and Rwanda's economy play at the same level? Kenya's economy is the 6th largest in Africa and most notably the largest non mineral economy in Africa, Rwanda's economy is around forty something largest in Africa.Besides Kenya's economy is more diversified and stable than Nigeria, we have the best human capital in Africa at our hand, we lead the world in mobile money technology, we lead Africa in fintech solutions and renewable energy programme, continue being delusional to yourself that Nigeria has everything that Kenya already has.

RTSC:

Look at this analogy. Nigeria has a GDP of 400billion dollars. By far the biggest economy on the continent.
Now divide the GDP by the population and you would find out that the GDP/capital of Nigeria is very small.
Smaller than many countries in africa.

You don't know basic economics, countries which are densely populated tend to have a higher economic output than the sparsely populated nations because there's huge availability of manpower and workforce to boost the economic output.
How can Nigeria have a lower GDP per capita because of its bustling population? You're kind of reasoning like someone who never went to school at all, look GDP per capita is influenced by how economic wealth and income is spread to every persons in a country, a country like Nigeria has a low GDP per capita since it's struggling with income inequality problem marred with corruption despite your oil wealth.
In fact Nigeria has the second worst income inequality problem in Africa.

RTSC:

It is the same with HDI. Our population is so big. Three times bigger than south Africa who is the second, which is very significant.
And most times the bigger the GDP/capital, the higher the HDI.
It is basic economics that even a 10 year old can understand.

If your population is three times bigger than that of south Africa, how's that significant? Maybe in poverty figures and slum population.

RTSC:

I cannot discount the effect of corruption. Corruption is a problem, just like in virtually every part of Africa

Corruption almost entirely affects all African nations but Nigeria is still lagging behind Kenya in most basic development indices, a bitter fact.

RTSC:

But over population is a critical factor.
The only way to increase our GDP/capital which is directly linked to HDI is by massively increasing our GDP so the population no longer becomes a factor.
If we have a GDP of 1 trillion dollars, there would be so much money to go round for maximum development, even when there is corruption.

The only way to increase GDP per capita is to reduce income inequality problem and ensure at least each person in a country gets a slice of economic wealth.You can't increase GDP per capita by increasing Nominal GDP output which is all about economic output or production.
GDP per capita and Nominal GDP are totally different indicators of an economy.

Nigeria has a big economy plus it's also corrupt, in fact it's the 5th largest oil producer in the world and yet your country looks like a war torn.

Yobeezy:


Do you even understand what you're arguing about? HDI

Kenya and Rwanda are both small countries, with relatively small economies.
Both play at the same level. There is really no much difference betweens both countries.
Kenya is richer than Rwanda so the population difference is not so much as to influence the HDI.
There is virtually nothing in Kenya that is not in Nigeria.
But how many people are competing for that becomes the question.

Look at this analogy. Nigeria has a GDP of 400billion dollars. By far the biggest economy on the continent.
Now divide the GDP by the population and you would find out that the GDP/capital of Nigeria is very small.
Smaller than many countries in africa.


It is the same with HDI. Our population is so big. Three times bigger than south Africa who is the second, which is very significant.
And most times the bigger the GDP/capital, the higher the HDI.
It is basic economics that even a 10 year old can understand.

I cannot discount the effect of corruption. Corruption is a problem, just like in virtually every part of Africa.

But over population is a critical factor.
The only way to increase our GDP/capital which is directly linked to HDI is by massively increasing our GDP so the population no longer becomes a factor.
If we have a GDP of 1 trillion dollars, there would be so much money to go round for maximum development, even when there is corruption.

My friend, go and read up on the relationship between GDP/capital, HDI and population before quoting me again.

Yobeezy:


Am pretty fine thanks dear how about you?

You do sound fine I'm good lol.

RTSC:

My friend, go and read up on the relationship between GDP/capital, HDI and population before quoting me again.

You've failed to answer my prior questions boldly, that's why you're clutching at a straw.
Nigerians with ignorance are like bread and butter.

XhosaNostra:


You do sound fine I'm good lol.

Of course I've missed your participation in that thread

Yobeezy:


Of course I've missed your participation in that thread

Are you, really? That thread is ongoing, so it gets boring after a while lol. I'm surprised that you guys have the energy for it.

XhosaNostra:


Are you, really? That thread is ongoing, so it gets boring after a while lol. I'm surprised that you guys have the energy for it.

I can't believe it, so Xhosa could say that Kenya vs Nigeria thread later became boring?
Wow I am surprised.... There was one guy like that you were always discussing with.

stanliwise:
I can't believe it, so Xhosa could say that Kenya vs Nigeria thread later became boring?
Wow I am surprised.... There is one guy like that you were always discussing with.

Well, it does get little activity sometimes. The people over there are fun to engage with though.

XhosaNostra:


Are you, really? That thread is ongoing, so it gets boring after a while lol. I'm surprised that you guys have the energy for it.

am even a once in a blue moon visitor in that thread cause people are just recycling arguments and also the level of ignorance in that thread has skyrocketed.

I wonder ooh. What is really there to envy about Nigeria and Nigerians? Is it the poverty? Is it the stvpidity? Is is the crime and foolishness? Nigerians are just too foolish for my liking. Very foolish

IronGalaxy:
forget it. We are South Africans always feel lucky to be South Africans. We look at Nigeria and we feel no envy at all, on the contrary we are lucky not to experience your conditions. Why do you always think people are envious of you? Why do you think you're so special?

IronGalaxy:
there's nothing else to see just a good ol' man of cloth yep my point proven

True. That man and his cloth are too boring compared to South African pastors commanding their congregations to eat grass and masturbate publicly.

IronGalaxy:
since when you do you own a forum?

The better question is does South Africa even have one? Or are you waiting for someone else to commission and build it for you like your whole infrastructure?

IronGalaxy:
pooh I'm so scared. Start with the Fulani Herdsmen then we shall see

The same way you should be exchanging blows with your Cape Town gangs instead of being an e thug on Nairaland. This cowardice of yours is what led to Cape Town outranking all other African cities (some in active war zones) for being the most dangerous. Yikes

IronGalaxy:
go start a generator boy. Or go brag somewhere

Go burn your schools down again boy to protest for an improvement on Bantu education. I'd say go brag somewhere but you have nowhere to go

IronGalaxy:
says who? Maybe I'll consider quiting this website when your uncultured brothers stop the great trek down south.


You don't see the irony of telling me I'm not needed don't you?

Then go and stop our brothers in their great trek down South instead of being a pussy online. Take that energy outside your shack.

IronGalaxy:
150mil people Vs 56 million people

Go figure

Also go figure how there's no continental/international black South African owned multinational company. Not a surprise.