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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by oyatz(m): 4:31pm On Sep 08, 2019
Emir is NOT a Fulani but an ISLAMIC title.

Even the incumbent Emir used to be known as Justice Kolapo Gambari when he was a Judge in the Court of Appeal and his family is often called Aiyelabowo family in Ilorin.

There has been cultural assimilation in Ilorin but the Afonja dynasty deserve their due recognization.



ZZ22:
The knowledge is here for all to see. Begging Fulanis for survival and a chance to observe your culture in your land.
What is Emir doing in Yoruba land instead of Oba?

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Iamgrey5(m): 4:31pm On Sep 08, 2019
MelesZenawi:



quite doubtful..

Does it mean he doesn't know his root..


Reason to get presidency....lolzz...no be today fulani has been playing and dealing with many in Nigeria
No it's not

There was a story that explosed their family When a former ambassador to the Ivory coast clearly stated how he met Saraki's grandfather in Abidjan years ago.

He told the story of how Saraki's grandfather came to Kwara.

So the joke is on Saraki.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by oyatz(m): 4:37pm On Sep 08, 2019
The present Governor is NOT a Fulaniman.

The Afonja Descendants Union were most vocal in 1999-2003 when the late Dr Olusola Saraki was the godfather of Kwara Politics and Pa Olola Kasumu was much younger.

This culminated in the Governor (himself a great great grandson of Afonja) recognizing Mogaji Aare as a first class Traditional ruler in Ilorin.





Caseless:
No, it's xenofulani.

This man sure knows there's a conspiracy against the Fulani right now, so he finds a better time to speak. He should have come out to say this when senior saraki and junior Saraki were in charge. I think the current governor is also a Fulani man in a way.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Nobody: 4:44pm On Sep 08, 2019
Emilokoiyawon:


[s]What is multi-cultural about a Fulani man being the no.1 traditional ruler in Ilorin- a Yoruba land? True multi-culturalism is when the Fulani man steps down and a Yoruba traditional ruler becomes no.1 in Ilorin. Then and only then can you say multi-cultural. Or do you expect the Queen of England to be replaced by an American or African in the name of multi-culturalism?[/s]



Face your region and leave the North alone
Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by oyatz(m): 4:44pm On Sep 08, 2019
There is a big difference between a ruler who is a Muslim ruling a population of mostly Muslim subjects and a ruler ruling in an Islamic theocratic States.

The Habe dynasties that ruled Hausaland before 1804 were already Muslims before the Jihad.





nameo:


The Otaru of Auchi is a muslim traditional ruler in an arguably muslim majority town. He is regarded as the nominal leader of Muslims in Edo North.
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Yet he does not go by the title "Emir". Nor does he deny his Afemai heritage or that of his people.

Just saying sha
Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Ritchiee: 4:55pm On Sep 08, 2019
AgonyOfHell:



Face your region and leave the North alone

Kwara is not North.It was initially South Central until the oligarchy planned to have a big North to intimidate the South.
Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by oyatz(m): 4:56pm On Sep 08, 2019
You don't know so many things about Ilorin.

Most of the Fulanis that came to Ilorin during the Jihad were MEN.
Where did they get wives, where did their sons and grandsons get wives?

Most Ilorin Indigenes who claim Fulanis ancestries are only 25% or 12.5% Fulanis whose great grandfathers came to Ilorin about 200years ago.



chiedozie198100:


soo now cos there is a yoruba name inbetween, that makes him yoruba?

chibuike Rotimi Amaechi.

even the celebrated tunde idiagbon was a Fulani man (i know most Nigerians did not know that).

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Franking: 4:56pm On Sep 08, 2019
Iamgrey5:
The problem is the current Emir of ilorin will claim Emir is not a Fulani title.


He will claim it's a Muslim title and most ilorin emirate indigenes are Muslims.


It's complicated tbh
So, is the emir Yoruba? If not why not?
Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Nobody: 4:57pm On Sep 08, 2019
siant:
Yoruba Ilorin are their own problem. Until they see themselves first as yoruba before being muslims they will continue being enslaved by fulani.
Majority of them believe all what they are doing are islamic traditions, but unknown to them that they are fulani culture. Are you more islamic than your kinsmen in south west whos still hold on to yoruba culture?

Oh you are too much! You just hit the nail on the head. Ilorins are being enslaved through Islam, as if they were the only Muslims in Yorubaland.

It's either they see themselves as Yoruba first and be free forever or Muslims first and be slaves till eternity.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Nobody: 4:59pm On Sep 08, 2019
Afonja was not a prince of Oyo, he was a commoner who rose to the highest military title of the Oyo empire. He however turned out to be a despicable traitor, and his memory deserves to be wiped off the face of the earth.
Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Ritchiee: 5:07pm On Sep 08, 2019
iAmViper:
Expect a tribal revolution in ilorin
Abdulrahman led administration is working against emirate, even he is about to crown some in ilorin city,
he embarassed sultan of sokoto during 2019 DURBAR when emir of ilorin implored sultan to abdulrahman to fund the festival, but he told sultan that he is not hausa nor fulani he said he is a true AFONJA And city belongs to its dwellers

I heard just what you said in Lagos here from a group discussing about Ilorin affairs.The Igbominas...like Lai Mohamed....always feel bad that Kwara state had not developed to its desired level because of the bad belle of the Emir against the other Obas.
It was so irritating when I and a colleague went to Ilorin and saw how the palace of the king looked like one you will see in Kano.
What effrontery in a city founded by Yorubas.The main thing holding that Emir there is the might of the FG.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Pinkybush: 5:11pm On Sep 08, 2019
The same way these fulanis headed by a sudanese fulani wanted to fulanize all the tribes in Zoogeria by introducing RUGA. In ten to twenty years to come those settlements would've had Emirs and in the process, they would conquer those communities and claim owners. But the ALMIGHTY GOD didn't allow their evil plan to see the light of the day.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by zoboizee: 5:11pm On Sep 08, 2019
oyatz:
There is a big difference between a ruler who is a Muslim ruling a population of mostly Muslim subjects and a ruler ruling in an Islamic theocratic States.

The Habe dynasties that ruled Hausaland before 1804 were already Muslims before the Jihad.





They were considered as moderate muslims with lot of them still deeply rooted in pagan practices. That was what necessitated the Jihad. Their fulani scholars or islamic teachers wanted a land of devout muslims. Of people devoid of pagan worhipping & corruption especially amongst her ruling elites.
In ilorin, the Yorubas of ilorin wants a muslim city as practiced by the fulani scholars in their great city-state of futa tooro, futa jalon, timbuktu, gwandu & sokoto. And they have succeeded in doing so for centuries. They fought tooth & nail for it against Oyo, Borgu, Ibadan & the British. It is not about Yoruba as people or culture but it is about Al Islam.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by AsiwajuNdigbo: 5:24pm On Sep 08, 2019
Did this afonja obtain permisiion from sokoto before he gave this interview?

Watch now, sultan go soon call Kwara Governor to come visit.

Afonja and palava, una no dey tire?

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by LZAA: 5:33pm On Sep 08, 2019
GMbuharii:
KASUMU AFONJA UNION CHAIRMAN

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by PureFace1(m): 5:36pm On Sep 08, 2019
Odingo1:

What make the Igbos slaves in Nigeria , I guess Buhari Bad government is affecting only the Igbos.

Last I check Igbos are the most successful tribe in Nigeria which is the root cause of the envy against them.

You are just delusional

What make you think you are the most successful tribe in Nigeria?


Top 5 richest Nigerians you are not even on the list

Anambra is still competing with the North in Begging

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by AsiwajuNdigbo: 5:41pm On Sep 08, 2019
Pinkybush:
The same way these fulanis headed by a sudanese fulani wanted to fulanize all the tribes in Zoogeria by introducing RUGA. In ten to twenty years to come those settlements would've had Emirs and in the process, they would conquer those communities and claim owners. But the ALMIGHTY GOD didn't allow their evil plan to see the light of the day.

The interview given by this Afonja is an alarm to all rigjt thinking people to see ahead what in hindsight is visible in Ilorin and to its Yoruba people.

Never allow fulani settlement anywhere in your land and vote candidates who are fiercely anti-fulani and dont consider them friends. Our Governors in SE are a set of afonjas. They colluded with fulani to sack Mazi and ipob from the land so when they bring ruga there will be no opposition to stop them. We must speak up against fulani they are dangerous and snakes. Yoruba is not snake even though we call them so. Fulani is the real snake. Be careful my people.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by chiedozie198100: 5:41pm On Sep 08, 2019
oyatz:
You don't know so many things about Ilorin.

Most of the Fulanis that came to Ilorin during the Jihad were MEN.
Where did they get wives, where did their sons and grandsons get wives?

Most Ilorin Indigenes who claim Fulanis ancestries are only 25% or 12.5% Fulanis whose great grandfathers came to Ilorin about 200years ago.




yet almost everything in the city is fulani-centric.

u can deceive those u want to deceive.

go back n read the original post. it saysthat afonja encouraged alimi to come with his household.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by lawani: 5:43pm On Sep 08, 2019
From the name of the Ilorin emir, Zulu Gambari, it is clearly seen that the man is a Yoruba of Hausa descent and not Fulani, Gambari is the Yoruba word for Hausa

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Cherez: 5:46pm On Sep 08, 2019
Iamgrey5:
No sir, Tunde idiagbon is not Fulani, that was a rumour.

Fulanis in Ilorin don't throw away their Fulani surnames but only bear the Yoruba first names like the Emir.

More importantly, out the four Baloguns (chieves) that install the Emir, two of them are Yorubas

Balogun Fulani ( Head of Fulani)

Balogun Gambari (head of Hausas from Borgu empire which extends to Benin republic)

Balogun Ajikobi (Yoruba)

Balogun Alanamu ( Yoruba)


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/322032-remembering-idiagbon-the-no-nonsense-military-general-who-ran-nigeria-with-buhari.html/amp/

Gen. Tunde Idiagbon [Photo: Pulse.ng]
11'
Major-General AbdulBaki Babatunde Idiagbon.

Mr Idiagbon, who was of Fulani ancestry, was born in Ilorin, Kwara State, on September 14, 1943. His father was the late Hassan Dogo, who died in 1978.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by PureFace1(m): 5:48pm On Sep 08, 2019
Odingo1:


From Abuja to Lagos to Maiduguri they call the shot in life activities.Politics won’t put food on your table unless you are family member of a politician otherwise you will be Part of poor masses shouting that Vp Osinbajo and Gbaja is yorubaman why hunger dey wipe the person ass.

A Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa in government looting the treasury of Nigeria is doing so for his family, igbos that is fully engaged in something doing benefits more from Hausa man that is shopping government money.

How do they call the shots?

Are Igbo the one feeding other tribes in Nigeria?

Are Igbo the only one doing business in Nigeria?

Igbo are mostly traders and when it come to work that requires skills like Barbing, Tailoring, Carpentry, Furniture works, Welding, Aluminum works, hairdressing, bricklayering, mechanics, vulcanizing etc give it to Yoruba

You guys are just delusional

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by PureFace1(m): 5:52pm On Sep 08, 2019
MrSly:

Lol I laugh in Greek. And people from this ethnic group muster courage to talk to Igbos. Lol!!!

IMAGINE AN EMIR IN YORUBA LAND. YORUBA IS SHAMELESS.
Modes can ban me I don't care I just said the obvious truth.


Shut up your mouth


You are talking about an Emir in Yoruba Land


Have you collected back all the Land Igala people displaced you from?

It was known in History that Igala people enslaved and Colonized Igbo and I don't know what is more shameful than that


Even the Obi of Onitsha originated from Benin and Ijaw people sold Igbo as slaves

You should be more shameful

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Iamgrey5(m): 5:56pm On Sep 08, 2019
Cherez:



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/322032-remembering-idiagbon-the-no-nonsense-military-general-who-ran-nigeria-with-buhari.html/amp/

Gen. Tunde Idiagbon [Photo: Pulse.ng]
11'
Major-General AbdulBaki Babatunde Idiagbon.

Mr Idiagbon, who was of Fulani ancestry, was born in Ilorin, Kwara State, on September 14, 1943. His father was the late Hassan Dogo, who died in 1978.


What is the full name of his father?

Hassan dogo idiagbon!
Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by slimderek(m): 5:58pm On Sep 08, 2019
Iamgrey5:
The problem is the current Emir of ilorin will claim Emir is not a Fulani title.


He will claim it's a Muslim title and most ilorin emirate indigenes are Muslims.


It's complicated tbh
They still have the religious hold on them.
Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by oyatz(m): 5:59pm On Sep 08, 2019
So Alimi's household is the origin of all the Fulani ancenstries in Ilorin?
Are all Fulanis of Ilorin descendants of Alimi?


In Ilorin, not all Fulanis are Alimi's descendants and not all Yorubas are Afonja descendants.

The Afonja and Alimi dynasties are just two extended families in Ilorin and don't include all Ilorin Indigenes.

What is Fulanis centric in Ilorin? Does any Ilorin Indigenes speak Fulfude (the language of the Fulanis)? Most Ilorin Indigenes are bounded by ISLAMIC and not Fulani culture.

Even those who are foremost defenders of
the Emirate in Ilorin are Yorubas or at most Yoruba/Fulani hybrid or what you can call Yorubanized Fulani.

Even in Oyo State, there are certain families whose progenitors were Fulanis e.g the famous Buhari family in Ogbomosho which produced the Senator representing Oyo North , Sen Fatai Buhari (APC, Oyo North)




chiedozie198100:


yet almost everything in the city is fulani-centric.

u can deceive those u want to deceive.

go back n read the original post. it saysthat afonja encouraged alimi to come with his household.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by PureFace1(m): 6:00pm On Sep 08, 2019
FemiMaduka:


You are very misguided. You miss the point. The Emir can bear all the Yoruba names in the world and speak the most pristine form of Yoruba language, it does not change the fact that he [and his ancestors] is Fulani--they do not even deny it.

Ilorin, as it stands today, is a province of the Sokoto caliphate; a territory conquered and effectively administered [in the traditional sense] by the Fulanis.

Both Saraki and Tunde Idiagbon are also of Fulanis heritage. Ilorin is, indeed, a Yoruba town ruled by a blood-line of Fulani aristocracy. This has never even been in doubt. It is ridiculous to have people talk what you talk.

P.S.: leave the Igbos out of this, please.


Both Saraki and Tunde Idiagbon didn't have Fulani Heritage

You are just being mischievous
Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Iamgrey5(m): 6:06pm On Sep 08, 2019
chiedozie198100:


yet almost everything in the city is fulani-centric.

u can deceive those u want to deceive.

go back n read the original post. it saysthat afonja encouraged alimi to come with his household.
This is not true oh

Ilorin is purely Yoruba town, Yoruba is even the official language in the Emirs palace (according to what a friend told me years back)

Ilorin has nothing that makes it Fula centic as such

People are just frustrated that they don't want to revolt against the Emir for an obaship title.
Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by Nobody: 6:09pm On Sep 08, 2019
GMbuharii:
KASUMU AFONJA UNION CHAIRMAN

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by OgboAto: 6:19pm On Sep 08, 2019
M
DabELLs:
I was born in Ilorin and live most of my life here. Some people especially the Igbo's will just sit in their rooms and be typing shii on what they are ignorant of. Afonja came to Ilorin the same way Alimi came. They both migrated to Ilorin so Ilorin was never a Yoruba only town right from the onset.
Besides, some of the Emir's children and family can not even speak Fulani language again. The dominating language in Ilorin is Yoruba. In addition, how many Fulani has become the governor in Kwara before?


YOU should read books. Particularly those written by the British on Ilorin.

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by stieyven(m): 6:23pm On Sep 08, 2019
efighter:


Must you comment? If you did not comment, you would have hidden your stupidity, but now the world can see your foolishness, it is original not Chinese made.
He who calls another a fool shall be in danger of hell. Matthew 5 :22

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Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by naijajobx: 6:26pm On Sep 08, 2019
hmmm
Re: Enough Of Fulani Domination In Ilorin – Kasumu, Afonja Union President-general by delpee(f): 6:27pm On Sep 08, 2019
FemiMaduka:
.

Go and do your research. The late Olusola Saraki [Oloye] is of Fulani heritage. His mother was from Iseyin. He himself attested to this year's ago. It is not a hidden fact.

His father was from Ogun State. His sister married an Ilorin man hence the affiliation to Ilorin. His father and the current governors dad knew Sarakis dad when they lived in Ivory Coast and he gave the media the full details. Alhaji Abulrazaq was the ambassador there then. The story is available online.

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