nwanyionitsha:
How com the present day Jews and Israelites don't pay tithe?
How come Jesus and the apostles never paid tithe?

Do the present Jews follow God or Jesus? No.

How come Jesus and the apostles didn't brush their teeth?

sshyne:


You see how dumb you sound? Read what you wrote and tell me if you make any sense. Even my baby sister thinks better than this.

You are contradicting yourself, since you know the law as being discarded then why are you still paying and collecting tithe or is tithing not of law? Read my post again. If you don't observe all the law you are cursed. But you thieves decided to pick the one that suites your evil and worldly desire and leave the other ones.

You are all bunch of thieves

Stop being a blind bat.

The law is not to be depended on for salvation. What we are depending on now is Jesus because we couldn't keep the whole law perfectly. If you decided to keep the law towards salvation, then ensure you keep the whole law. Ensure you never break a single one of it. If you pass all but break one, you will be guilty of even the ones you passed. That's why Paul said such a person is cursed for depending on the law for his salvation. So he days we should depend on Jesus for salvation. Does that mean I can now go about killing people and even becoming homosexual against the law? No, because if I do God will punish me. That's shows that the law is still effective in that regard but not towards salvation. Depending on it for salvation places you under curse because you will always fail.

Do you now understand? But yo you, you thought Paul meant the law has been discarded. If so, kindly break the below law by having g hot sex with your mother tonight and see if the society and God won't punish you


Leviticus 18:6
None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their unclothedness: I am the LORD.

solmusdesigns:
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how pathetic of africans it is, thinking they are jews or arabs



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THIS , MY FRIEND , IS ONE OF THE FOUNDATIONAL PROBLEMS OF AFRICANS.
They think the desert Gods care about the black race.
They (we) Africans do not know we must find our own path to God, not by following other races blindly, because we have different destinies and psychological traits.

Onyxqueen:


A classic example was when Jesus asked his disciples to go fishing and guess what, they found money inside the mouth of the fish that they caught!

Now, let me play the game you anti-tithers love to play. The Bible gave that record only once. Where does it say that was how Jesus was always getting his money?

shadeyinka:
Why is it that tithes proponents don't teach
Deut 12:21:
"If the place which the LORD thy God hath chosen to put his name there be too far from thee, then thou shalt kill of thy herd and of thy flock, which the LORD hath given thee, as I have commanded thee, and thou shalt eat in thy gates whatsoever thy soul lusteth after."

Choir members should be partakers of tithes but tell me one church that take care of choir members from tithe money!


Usually, I don't argue on this kind of doctrinal issue and the only thing that brought me in was someone equating Pastors to Levites. That is completely wrong.

Secondly, tithes were the inheritance of Levites because they were not given any other inheritance among the children of Israel. The other category of the beneficiaries of tithes are the widow's, orphans etc. Checking at the way all our churches spend the tithes (my denomination inclusive), tithes isn't used exclusively for this purpose. I think the primary beneficiaries (the pastors) should totally enforce the use.

Third, there are three kinds of laws in the old testament
1. The moral laws
2. The ceremonial/religious laws
3. The cleanliness laws

The moral laws lead to sin, iniquity or transgression when broken whether then or now. The other two kind of laws may be excused ONLY in the new testament because we are not under the law.

Under what class does the tithe law fall in.

My Final Stance:
It is very valid for a Christian to pay tithes religiously as an act of worship and appreciation to God
BUT
He who doesn't has not committed a sin and it isn't a requirement for salvation nor being right with God.

The more weightier matters of the Faith include
1. Love for God and fellow human being
2. Building up the Believers with our spiritual gifts and talents.
3. Winning souls for God in Evangelism.
And of the Law:
1.Fairness in Judgement
2. Mercy and Forgiveness to our offender
3. Faith to God and His word

But who cares about these as long as money is coming into the treasury!

I don't go about asking how churches spend tithe money, so I can't mention any church that pays choirsters.

No one is equating pastors with Levites. Pastors are greater than Levites. Pastors are in the same league with Aaron the Priest who was ordained by God to eat from the tithe.

And don't feed me that crap of "we are priesthood". How many of those so-called priesthood are full-time priests? How many of them work in the house of God? How many of them go soulwinning? They do nothing but fold their arms and open their dirty mouth to claim priesthood.

Stop acting like the tithe was solely for the Levites. Before the Levi the grandfather of the Levites was born, the tithe was for the priest Melchizedec. Levites came along and a portion was given to them.

alBHAGDADI:


Now, let me play the game you anti-tithers love to play. The Bible gave that record only once. Where does it say that was how Jesus was always getting his money?

You can infer from that instance that

1. Jesus had NEED for money
2. Jesus did not direct his disciples/followers to give to him without directing them on where to get from
3. Jesus did not direct his disciples/followers to take money off other people by telling them they are thieves if they don't give to God their tithe

I want to ask my friend, our pastors and followers of Christ, when they are in NEED of funds, do these inferences apply to them? Bless you!

alBHAGDADI:


Only Paul was a tentmaker. The rest abandoned fishing to become fishers of men. Paul depended on tent making to feed himself because he never pastored any church. He wasn't a pastor but an evangelist. Same Paul stated that pastors or Bishops have the right to eat your carnal things just as the priests in the temple of old eat out of the things offered in the temple.

Are you saying because the Bible doesn't state that the apostles brushed their teeth, it means they didn't? Since that's your belief, make sure you don't brush your teeth henceforth.

Since tithe, as important as some christians see it didn't have a mention during their time then it has no relevance in modern day christianity. Brushing my teeth cannot make me sin against God so is tithing.

alBHAGDADI:


Stop being a blind bat.

The law is not to be depended on for salvation. What we are depending on now is Jesus because we couldn't keep the whole law perfectly. If you decided to keep the law towards salvation, then ensure you keep the whole law. Ensure you never break a single one of it. If you pass all but break one, you will be guilty of even the ones you passed. That's why Paul said such a person is cursed for depending on the law for his salvation. So he days we should depend on Jesus for salvation. Does that mean I can now go about killing people and even becoming homosexual against the law? No, because if I do God will punish me. That's shows that the law is still effective in that regard but not towards salvation. Depending on it for salvation places you under curse because you will always fail.

Do you now understand? But yo you, you thought Paul meant the law has been discarded. If so, kindly break the below law by having g hot sex with your mother tonight and see if the society and God won't punish you


Leviticus 18:6
None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their unclothedness: I am the LORD.

Its sure you have being sleeping with your mom because you keep making the same statement. You are the most confused idiot I have ever seen and everyone can see that. You are just contradicting yourself and it shows how stupid you are. I'm sure you are married with kids, it's people like you that your wife seek real men to sleep with. I'm sure you definitely don't know that. You think you can run a family with this your dumbness?

I will say this again, you are a thief and that curse will definitely be on your children. The gospel of Christ is not profitable that's why you all follow the law. Even the jews don't pay tithe anymore.

IT'S OBVIOUS YOUR GOD IS YOUR BELLY

Go and work make hunger no finish your family.
THIEF , BARAWO

Onyxqueen:


You can infer from that instance that

1. Jesus had NEED for money
2. Jesus did not direct his disciples/followers to give to him without directing them on where to get from
3. Jesus did not direct his disciples/followers to take money off other people by telling them they are thieves if they don't give to God their tithe

I want to ask my friend, our pastors and followers of Christ, when they are in NEED of funds, do these inferences apply to them? Bless you!

People gave to Jesus, not only that fish.

Luke 8:3
And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.

Jesus called people who don't pay tithe thieves. Or who do you think was talking in Malachai 3?

sshyne:


Its sure you have being sleeping with your mom because you keep making the same statement. You are the most confused idiot I have ever seen and everyone can see that. You are just contradicting yourself and it shows how stupid you are. I'm sure you are married with kids, it's people like you that your wife seek real men to sleep with. I'm sure you definitely don't know that. You think you can run a family with this your dumbness?

I will say this again, you are a thief and that curse will definitely be on your children. The gospel of Christ is not profitable that's why you all follow the law. Even the jews don't pay tithe anymore.

IT'S OBVIOUS YOUR GOD IS YOUR BELLY

Go and work make hunger no finish your family.
THIEF , BARAWO

This one couldn't counter my points, so he resorted to tantrums?

Funny

I attend Redeemed Christian Church of God. Regrettably, there is too much hypocrisy in Christianity today. God asked the LEVITES to pay tithes but it was in the old testament. He was talking to the LEVITES and not us.
Secondly, when Christ came, Old testament was abolished and all it's laws were abolished too. Then, women were not allowed to be priests, women in their monthly periods were considered unclean, pork was forbidden, beards too. Sabbath day was to be kept holy.

Now, in this Era of Grace ( Christ) (New Testament), we have done away with all of that. We hardly keep the Sabbath day holy, women are taking over from men as priests & pastors. We consume pork freely either directly or in foods like burger. But my question is "Why have we refused to do away with the obligation of Tithing"?

Christ did not ask us to pay tithes or give out of obligation, He asks of us to Firstly give ourselves to Him. We are further admonished to give generously and willingly. ( Christ said if we assist our brethren, we have assisted him)

I think it's time to do away with this tithing brouhaha and then willingly but generously give to humanity and perhaps to the Church too.
God own us and all that we have, including our monies. How much shud I give to God for being so good to me? 10 percent of my salary? I don't think so. I can decide to give Him 30 percent, 50 percent, 5 Percent etc depending on my faith and willingness.
Most importantly, I should give myself to God.
How do I give myself to God? Through righteousness! Our pastors don't preach righteousness anymore but Tithing and Money
Sad

alBHAGDADI:


I don't go about asking how churches spend tithe money, so I can't mention any church that pays choirsters.

No one is equating pastors with Levites. Pastors are greater than Levites. Pastors are in the same league with Aaron the Priest who was ordained by God to eat from the tithe.

And don't feed me that crap of "we are priesthood". How many of those so-called priesthood are full-time priests? How many of them work in the house of God? How many of them go soulwinning? They do nothing but fold their arms and open their dirty mouth to claim priesthood.

Stop acting like the tithe was solely for the Levites. Before the Levi the grandfather of the Levites was born, the tithe was for the priest Melchizedec. Levites came along and a portion was given to them.

alBHAGDADI,
I do respect you for your insights on NL. Let's say here we differ.

Pastors as far as I am concerned are just one group of people called by God amongst

Apostles
Prophets
Teachers
Evangelists
Pastor

The calling of a Pastor needn't be full-time. A pastor is a person specially gifted by the Holy Spirit to care, tend and heal members of the body of Christ.

A pastor could be a Teacher in a secondary school but because of his gift, he is used of God in doing the work of Pastor to students. It is not compulsory that a Christian called by God oversee a ministry or physical church.

If Pastors are the Aarons, what are the Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists and Teachers.

Most of those laymen who teach in your Bible studies and Sunday school in church have the gift/calling of a Teacher. How about laymen who are evangelists in your church (are they not called and entitled to the tithes?)

Eph 4:11-13:
"And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:"

On a light note:
There was a strange event that happened in my church today. After the minister finished preaching (on giving) today, a layman church (we call him Evengelist T.D. John) came up to speak and in less than 2 minutes 6 people rose up to give their lives to Jesus. That is the kind of grace he has (to win souls for Christ).

Why did I bring this up? This Mr T.D. John is a career civil servant. The difference is that he also has the calling of an Evangelist.

The Body of Christ is just where 2 or more are gathered in His name or where those who have Christ's Spirit are.

About Pastors and soul winning: I am of the opinion that laymen do more soul winning than the average Pastor.
When I was a teacher, I average around 10-15 witnessing contacts per week with almost half of them giving their lives to Christ. My spiritual gift/calling is not even close to being an Evangelist. Evangelism for me is just a duty every Christian is required to do.

The church need plenty money to function properly but it doesn't absolve the leadership to emphasize Maturity in Christ, Discipleship, Righteous living, Productivity, Faithfulness and Faith in God rather than silver and gold on the bases of subtle deception to collect money.

alBHAGDADI:



Malachi 3:10 (KJV)
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house,

But most churches have more than enough meat, so why pay tithe into such church.

alBHAGDADI:


Now, let me play the game you anti-tithers love to play. The Bible gave that record only once. Where does it say that was how Jesus was always getting his money?

And so Jesus paid the tithe of the money he got from the fish mouth or he spent everything to pay tax? Of course he didn’t pay tithe out of it. Now if someone gift me money, your pastor would ask me for tithe of the money. Remember fish gifted Jesus money.

shadeyinka:

alBHAGDADI,
I do respect you for your insights on NL. Let's say here we differ.

Pastors as far as I am concerned are just one group of people called by God amongst

Apostles
Prophets
Teachers
Evangelists
Pastor

The calling of a Pastor needn't be full-time. A pastor is a person specially gifted by the Holy Spirit to care, tend and heal members of the body of Christ.

A pastor could be a Teacher in a secondary school but because of his gift, he is used of God in doing the work of Pastor to students. It is not compulsory that a Christian called by God oversee a ministry or physical church.

If Pastors are the Aarons, what are the Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists and Teachers.

Most of those laymen who teach in your Bible studies and Sunday school in church have the gift/calling of a Teacher. How about laymen who are evangelists in your church (are they not called and entitled to the tithes?)

Eph 4:11-13:
"And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:"
.

First understand the difference between the different offices, or else you will lump them as one.

Apostles are usually those whom were chosen by Jesus. Apostle Paul was also chosen by Jesus. However, not a the apostles became pastors. Paul was never a pastor but we can say he was a prophet which is another word for preacher. He was also a teacher. His main duty was evangelism.

Now, Peter, James, John etc were pastors or Bishops. They pastored churches, which Paul didn't because he was an evangelist. That's why he didn't take tithe.

The Pastors were shepherds over actual churches and we're ordained. But you are mistaking the role of a teacher to mean a pastor. A Sunday school teacher is not a pastor but under a pastor. Just cos he teaches people doesn't make him a pastor. Same thing with a prophet who can't be called a pastor cos he's just a preacher. But a pastor can call himself a prophet cos he's a preacher. He can call himself an evangelist because he evangelizes.

The pastor oversees a congregation like the priest of old, but others only do to a subset of it. That's why it is not anyhow person that can cause himself a pastor. Some call me a pastor here but I stop them because I'm not

Tithe not for Christians but freewill offerings to promote Kingdom work and support for the leaders.

Giving to the poor is encouraged.

alBHAGDADI:


Agricultural produce are known to be harvested yearly in most cases, that's why tithing was done yearly. Today, people earn monthly, that's why they pay it monthly. You can chose to accumulate all the monthly tithe and pay it at the end of the year. What matters is you paying what belongs to God. But by the end of the year, the amount may appear too big to want to let go. So, it's advisable it is paid monthly when it appears small.

Yes, you are to feast and dine, but the passage never said you should feast on the exact tithe you brought. The feasting is what the temple prepared for everyone to eat. The bulls, sheep, corn, wheat etc are prepared and eaten by everyone after some have been stored and some sacrificed to God through burnt offering. Imagine you pay a tithe of a cow and bags of corn, can you feast on the whole of it in one sitting? The priest only takes a portion out of the many cows paid as tithe, slaughters it and everyone feasts. Same happens when your church holds yearly or quarterly feasts.

23. And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.

alBHAGDADI:


Do the present Jews follow God or Jesus? No.

How come Jesus and the apostles didn't brush their teeth?

But tithe is basically old testament which is the Torah.

Thisis2raw:
Malachi 3:10 (KJV)
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house
That a clear direction, bring it to my house. Not to give to a begger at the road.
Tho the act of giving to the poor can't be overemphasized, that why Jesus said give and it shall be given upon to

how many times have you eaten fried chicken, rice and stew on a Sunday morning since when you've been paying tithe?

alBHAGDADI:

There is a movement today which believes the tithe which they are to pay to God should be given to the widows, fatherless, orphans or the needy in general. This movement wants to give the tithe to the needy directly from their pocket without giving it to the Church. They even have a Bible passage to back it up. Let's examine it.

Deuteronomy 14:22-29 (KJV)
22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
23 And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.
28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:
29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.

As seen above, nowhere in the passage are people ordered to give the tithe directly to the needy. God only says the needy should not be forsaken. How does one forsake the needy in this case? You forsake the needy when you fail to tithe, not when you don't give it to them directly.

The tithe is used for different purposes in the house of God. A portion caters for the priests, a portion sees to the care of the house of God, another portion caters for the needy etc. All of these are supervised by God's priest. So when you tithe, the needy comes to the house of God and they are cared for from it.

The reason why the above passage says the tithe has to be taken to the place where God puts his name, i.e the House of God, is because it is from there the distribution to the purposes it serves is done.

Now, there are two kinds of people in the movement that want to give their tithe directly to the needy by themselves. It sound a like a great idea to give to the needy. But they are both wrong. One class is sincere but sincerely wrong, while the other is just being a thief.

An example of such movement is seen in the gospel passages talking about the woman with an alabaster of expensive ointment who poured it on Jesus to show appreciation for what he did for her.

When the disciples saw what she did, they felt awkward about it. They wondered why the expensive ointment wasn't sold and the money given to the poor. They were since but sincerely wrong.

Matthew 26:8-11 (KJV)
8 But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste?
9 For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.

Now, what about the class that is wrong and also being a thief about it? That class has people with the mindset of Judas Iscariot. See what he said below and how the Bible described him and those who reason alike.

John 12:4-6 (KJV)
4 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,
5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.


Let me tell you something about many of those who love to say their tithe ought to be given to the poor directly by themselves without taking it to the Church. They are thieves. How do I know this? Just read on.

The Bible clearly states that the tithe belongs to God and he even said it has to be brought into his house as seen below.

Leviticus 27:30
And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD'S: it is holy unto the LORD.

Malachi 3:10 (KJV)
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house,

Now, these people who go give it directly to the poor are simply robbing God. They are not to decide how God should spend what belongs to him. They are to pay it to the church and allow God and his priest decide how to spend it. But no, they think it is right the tithe is given to the poor and needy themselves.

Ask them what they did with their own 90 percent. They spent it all on themselves without caring for the poor out of it. But it is God's own money they now want to give to the poor. That's robbery. They are Judas Iscariot, because if they truly cared for the poor, they would have something from their own 90 percent to give to the poor and allow God enjoy his own 10 percent. They are like Judas who had the money bag but never gave to the poor from it but is eyeing the expensive oil spent on Jesus who is God.

Mathew 26:10-11
10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.
11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

The moment you decide to neglect the word of God by giving the tithe to the needy yourself, you will get consumed by pride. There's this feeling you will get when you give it to the needy yourself. You will feel fulfilled, however, that's you feeling puffed up and consumed by pride because you did the desire of your heart, not what God ordered.

Guess what? You have taken God's glory because the people you gave it to will praise you and henceforth hold you in high-esteem. All of these belongs to God, but you have cornered it to yourself.

You used God's money to buy those things for yourself - that's another offence. You also prevent the needy from going to God's house to seek help where they will be exposed to his word. Now, it's your own house they will go to.

Guess what will happen to God's house? It will become empty because there will be no priest nor workers to run it because they are not getting paid and can't feed. They will go look for job elsewhere. The Church will become empty because the needy won't be there to fill it up and there won't be a priest to minister to them. Such a church will die. That is what Satan wants. He wants the church to be starved of funds so it will die and souls will continue to go to hell. You have foolishly aided the devil's dream because you chose to follow your heart and emotions instead of the word of God. Your way seemed right to you over the word of God.

What you have to do is pay the tithe to the house of God and never worry how it's spent. It's not your money, so why bother yourself about it? Also, make sure it is God's house you are paying the money to, not some crooked man running a business center and claiming it is a church. Pay the money into the bank God uses and it will get to him, not in the bank he doesn't use.

Next time, follow what the Bible says, not your heart which is prone to emotions. The thought of our hearts sometimes seems right but are wrong. Many of the tithe we pay are not always used to maintain the church. They are sent to jungles where missionary men are facing dangers to spread the gospel. Don't hinder God's work by disobeying his word and following your heart.

Thank you.

It is either you are trying to be mischievous or you lack fundamental knowledge about this topic. Before I proceed, let me call your attention to these words in the Old testament: "Temple "," Terbanacle" and "Store-House". 1. Both Temple and Tabernacle are use interchangeably to refer to a place of worship in the testament.
2. The head or leader of the Temple or Tabernacle is the chief priest . Infact they dwell in the temple doing the work of God.

There is no record in the old testament of anyone taking his or her tithe to the temple or tabernacle.

The Temple or Tabernacle represents today's church and Pastor and priest are the equivalent of the chief priest.

The Store-house is different from the Temple or Tabernacle . The Store-house is also not an arm or extension of Temple or Tabernacle The Store-house
is a place or a provision established to take care of the weak, needy, orphans widows or anyone who cannot provide for His or herself either clean or unclean, Just or unjust.

The Tabernacle or Temple in the old testament is a sacred place where "unclean people " don't enter because it bring instant judgement, it is a place of worship and worship alone. This explain the reason why Christ chase the merchants away
in Matthew 21 :12.



It is an error for you to conclude that tithe Should be taking to the church instead of it original purpose which is charity.

Darkseid:
My tithe belongs to me and me alone, anything I choose to give to any other person is left for me to decide.

HABA OLE GAN

Preffered:


It is either you are trying to be mischievous or you lack fundamental knowledge about this topic. Before I proceed, let me call your attention to these words in the Old testament: "Temple "," Terbanacle" and "Store-House". 1. Both Temple and Terbanacle are use interchangeably to refer to a place of worship in the testament.
2. The head or leader of the Temple or Terbanacle is the chief priest . Infact they dwell in the temple doing the work of God.

There is no record in the old testament of anyone taking his or her tithe to the temple or tarbacle.

The Temple or Terbanacle represents today's church and Pastor and priest are the equivalent of the chief priest.

The Store-house is different from the Temple or Terbanacle . The Store-house is also not an arm or extension of Temple or Terbanacle The Store-house
is a place or a provision established to take care of the weak, needy, orphans widows or anyone who cannot provide for His or herself .


It is an error for you to conclude the tithe Should be taking to the church instead of it original purpose which is charity.

The store house is an arm of God's house and it is to provide for the house of God. That is what God said below. But you are saying the store house is just a store house that has nothing to do with the house of God.

Malachi 3:10 King James Version (KJV)
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

PureGoldh:
I prefer giving my tithe to the Needy and my offering(s) to the church.

That's for me Thoo.... I don't know about you

Hope you won't pay your child's school fees to a teacher in need instead of to the school. It makes sense...at least you helped someone in need.

alBHAGDADI:


First understand the difference between the different offices, or else you will lump them as one.

Apostles are usually those whom were chosen by Jesus. Apostle Paul was also chosen by Jesus. However, not a the apostles became pastors. Paul was never a pastor but we can say he was a prophet which is another word for preacher. He was also a teacher. His main duty was evangelism.

Now, Peter, James, John etc were pastors or Bishops. They pastored churches, which Paul didn't because he was an evangelist. That's why he didn't take tithe.

The Pastors were shepherds over actual churches and we're ordained. But you are mistaking the role of a teacher to mean a pastor. A Sunday school teacher is not a pastor but under a pastor. Just cos he teaches people doesn't make him a pastor. Same thing with a prophet who can't be called a pastor cos he's just a preacher. But a pastor can call himself a prophet cos he's a preacher. He can call himself an evangelist because he evangelizes.

The pastor oversees a congregation like the priest of old, but others only do to a subset of it. That's why it is not anyhow person that can cause himself a pastor. Some call me a pastor here but I stop them because I'm not

I think we are lumping up definitions and roles together to fit into what we have nowadays.

An Apostle is one who is called and SENT to a people or group to plant the church of Christ in difficult terrains. They are usually pioneers and loaded with multiple gifts and spiritual graces.
(Most of the pioneers of Christianity in Africa are most likely Apostles)

A Evangelist is a person specially gifted by the Holy Spirit to bring people to understand and accept the Gospel of Christ and thus making them members of the body of Christ
(They have extraordinary graces of winning souls)

A Teacher is a person specially gifted by the Holy Spirit to help members of the body of Christ understand scriptural truths and show them how to apply the word of God to their lives
(They make scriptures understandable and show how to live it successfully)

A Prophet is a person specially gifted by the Holy Spirit to speak the mind of Christ and to give instructions and encouragement to a church, nation or members concerning their situations in Foretelling (future happenings), Posttelling (what had happened in the past) and Nowtelling (Present unknown events)

A Pastor is a person specially gifted by the Holy Spirit to care, tend and heal members of the body of Christ.

I don't believe that some spiritual callings are ceased or collapsed into the roles of a pastor.


I believe you also know that a person can have more than one calling/office. Paul was at least an Apostle and Teacher.

A Sunday school teacher is NOT a pastor unless he has been called as one by Christ. A teacher is not a Pastor unless he has been gifted/called as one.

Our present day church adminstration has relegated the other offices and collapsed the under the title Pastor. But this wasn't how it was before, however this was allowed to prevent doctrinal confusions and errors flying about within churches.
In Bible times, Teachers moved from church to church to minister (and there were cases of even some of them spreading heresies).

I want to believe that you don't hold the doctrine that some spiritual gifts/offices has ceased

alBHAGDADI:


The store house is an arm of God's house and it is to provide for the house of God. That is what God said below. But you are saying the store house is just a store house that has nothing to do with the house of God.

Malachi 3:10 King James Version (KJV)
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

Malachi 2:1 And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.

For your information, Malachi is actually addressing priest that Default in taking their tithe to store house.

Malachi 2:8
But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.

[13]And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.

What started in chapter 2 continue in chapter of Malachi.

Preffered:


Malachi 2:1 And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.

For your information, Malachi is actually addressing priest that Default in taking their tithe to store house.

Malachi 2:8
But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts.

[13]And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.

What started in chapter 2 continue in chapter of Malachi.

How did you know chapter 3 is a continuation of chapter 2? How comes it's not a continuation of chapter 1?

ImaIma1:


Hope you won't pay your child's school fees to a teacher in need instead of to the school. It makes sense...at least you helped someone in need.

Don't mind him. By the time the school sends his kid packing, that's when he'll have sense.

Thisis2raw:
Malachi 3:10 (KJV)
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house
That a clear direction, bring it to my house. Not to give to a begger at the road.
Tho the act of giving to the poor can't be overemphasized, that why Jesus said give and it shall be given upon to

funny how you people choose which scriptures to select from the old testament and which ones to ignore. Scammers buruku.

Point of Correction We give Tithe....... we don't pay Tithe...You can't pay God,Even the money your having is all his own,his the giver of all

lookingfly:
how many times have you eaten fried chicken, rice and stew on a Sunday morning since when you've been paying tithe?

can't even count, some of us are not doing bad in life. We are comfortable