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Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Karence(f): 10:34am On Oct 27, 2019 |
Op,read the whole chapter of Deuteronomy 22 and stop confusing yourself with selected verses of the chapter. Men were asked to avoid women's clothing cos of the recharge from the body of a women,remember it was a taboo for a woman who is mensurating to touch or be in a congregation of others and she had to be cleansed after her period. You need to study the scriptures for yourself biko. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Auki: 10:35am On Oct 27, 2019 |
healthserve: All prophets and Saints 1. Wore rope 2. Grow beard 3. Worship only One God not Jesus or trinity Learn |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by hollowpot15684(m): 10:35am On Oct 27, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: We are not in the times of corrections anymore, Grace covers as long as you talk and walk with your father in heaven everytime your shortcomings appears. I am personally not guided by laws of rights and wrong anymore, but by pure Principle which are naturally subjective. I can wear a robe if that is what i feel like wearing, it is not Gods business what i wear. Sir/Ma, i will advise you upgrade your teachings and ideas to the new covenant which is active till Jesus Christ second coming. Also remember, all your righteousness are nothing but filthy rags, so irrespective of what you wear, you are nothing but an unrighteous person. Upgrade your teachings sir, you are way behind of the truth. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by EXOUSIAng: 10:37am On Oct 27, 2019 |
Most Christains have been on and on about what Jesus did and what he didnt, Questions: The bible never recorded that jesus 1. Brushed morning and night, why do you? 2. had his bath, why una dey baf 3.Driving a car, or flying in a plane, why do you? 4. Wearing boxers, why do you? 5. Wore suit, why the suit and tie 6. built a house, why ya'll building houses? 7. used microphones and speakers, whats with speakers in churches, 8. The list is a long one, the bible talked the renewal of the mind for a reason. Op from what your write up, i guess you wearing a robe right now, cos Jesus never wore trousers Ya'll be making heaven difficult for yourselves I spit on this post 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Advancedman(m): 10:38am On Oct 27, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Stop this nonsense 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Bhorbymills1990: 10:38am On Oct 27, 2019 |
jaxxy: Jesus wore Garment not Robe .... Take note of the slight difference between them |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Nobody: 10:40am On Oct 27, 2019 |
I don't know why we (human being) are so obsessed with shadows. We are busy climbing the sign post neglecting where it is pointing. We prefer the pointing finger to the object it's pointing. We created knowledge out of ignorance. Hence, everyone is right in his own illusion. Jesus, like many others are symbols of awakening; a reminder to all that we aren't what we think. I agree we've all been mislead and misinformed in one way or the other in the aspect of life's reality while growing. Therefore, it is more profitable to self growth; if one will keep quiet on pseudo truth he inherited and remain open without prejudice. Truth need not to be defended or argued, the very fact that it is arguable qualifies it as non-truth. Leave the messanger and focus on the message. The message is clear to those who are ready to crucify self on the cross of emptiness. Let him hear, he who has hear. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by alBHAGDADI: 10:43am On Oct 27, 2019 |
Youngzedd: Some of the Old Testament laws have been changed in the New Testament. Examples are diverse washings, circumcision, shaving of hair etc. Paul wrote about them. Does that now mean that all the law has been changed? If so, why not break the law below but sleeping with your mother, sister and daughter? Leviticus 18:6 (KJV) None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their unclothedness: I am the LORD. Look, when the Bible said the law has been done away with, it's not saying we can now break the law. It simply means the law is not the means to salvation. You can't get saved by keeping the law because Jesus is the one that saves. If you reject Jesus and decided to get saved by keeping the law, it means you are cursed. What is the curse? You are cursed because you will never keep the entire law. You will always fail. If you pass all but failed in one, you will be guilty of even the one you passed - That is the curse and the reason why those who keep the law as a means of salvation always end up in hell. God knew we won't be able to keep the law 100%, that's why he gave us Jesus. Now, the reason why obey the law today is because it gives us blessings and also protection. If you steal, you will go to jail if caught. If you don't, you are protected. So basically, the Old Testament laws which God wants us to continue with, he stated in the New Testament e.g don't be homosexual, don't commit incest etc. The ones he doesn't want us to continue with, he stated in the New Testament e.g circumcision, diverse washings etc The ones he didn't say anything g about in the New Testament, those ones are to be obeyed. Why? Because no man has the right to stop what God has not stopped. I hope you understand now |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by alBHAGDADI: 10:45am On Oct 27, 2019 |
hollowpot15684: Since Grace covers you, then make sure you sleep with your mother, sister and daughter tonight. Make sure you get them pregnant. Leviticus 18:6 King James Version (KJV) None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their unclothedness: I am the LORD. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by jaxxy(m): 10:46am On Oct 27, 2019 |
Bhorbymills1990: What’s the difference oh? These words are used interchangeably. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by thinkmoney(m): 10:49am On Oct 27, 2019 |
doctorkush:my dear, that's the problem we have today. don't allow anybody read the Bible for you.God in his love has made it available. read it and make researches 'with your power of reason.' It's ur guide in the journey of life,ur spiritual food (would u let somebody eat for u?). my take on the issue is that when u read the Bible and study Paul's books u will see that long hair for male was not looked on favourably, so it's most likely that Jesus wore his hair shot. about the garment, like many things Jesus advised against like taking front sit in an assembly, he wasn't advising against it, he was just against the way the Pharisees use it to show off. Long garments or robe may be the preserve of the rich who could afford extra garment material. However the case may be, research and literatures from Jesus time suggest males cloth be it robe, cloak or coat was always distinguishable from females. READ THE BIBLE PLEASE |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by ovcwality(m): 10:49am On Oct 27, 2019 |
@op cultures differs, rope might be men's clothing in some culture, just because you don't dress like a Nazarene makes you a sinner. Moreover I don't know Bible quote well, but this is simple logic |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Youngzedd(m): 10:54am On Oct 27, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Open the link and go through it. Why should I sleep with my old mother when there are fresh babes out there? C'mon that's disgusting. Bros, you don't fully understand why Christ came. I advise you to enroll for Dr Abel Damina mentorship programme. Christians are not under the law. We follow Christ strictly, anything not found in the life of Christ is none of our business. Hebrews 7:18-19 18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. . Hebrew 8 vs 13 (NIV) "By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear." Hebrews 7:12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also. Colossians 2:16-23 Freedom From Human Rules 16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. 19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow. 20 Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. Galatians 2:21 I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!” Stop manipulating the people using the law. Mathew 23. Judaism is not Christianity. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by hollowpot15684(m): 10:59am On Oct 27, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Lol, i just wish you understand better but it is very obvious my wish cannot be granted. Sleeping with my mother, sister and daughter may not be morally right to you because your cultural background don't permit such but it doesn't mean there are no culture out there who don't permit it. I want you to know that, there are even more bizarre practices around the world which you will see as 'wrong' if i mention them to you. However, I'm not gonna waste my time on you cos it is very clear that you are a close minded person to even cite that as an example in the first place. Talking about Grace, i want you to know that "i am the righteousness of God in Christ, therefore am above condemnation". All your robe condemnations are nothing but trash, and i do not believe anyone who knows the heart of God would come up with such. Listen to the preachings of Joseph Prince, Sam Adeyemi or Myles Munroe, i believe your brains will open thereafter. Have a lovely Sunday and i will advise you change the church you attend. Obrigado. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Youngzedd(m): 10:59am On Oct 27, 2019 |
hollowpot15684: The OP is a manipulator. He doesn't fully understand what it means to be a Christian. If not that Christianity has taken over, the OP would have been a native doctor. Since they now see being a native doctor won't pay them, they moved to Christianity mixed with Judaism. You can't manipulate anyone under the true Christianity. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by alBHAGDADI: 10:59am On Oct 27, 2019 |
Karence: D So, why were women told to stay away from men's clothing? Because of MENstruation |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Youngzedd(m): 11:01am On Oct 27, 2019 |
hollowpot15684: If we are still in the 50s, the OP should have been one chance native doctor. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by alBHAGDADI: 11:02am On Oct 27, 2019 |
hollowpot15684: Will you just shut up Which foolish culture permits sleeping with your mother and sister? Such existed before and still does. But a Christian is to dump such cultures the moment he accepts Jesus Christ. Any person still doing such is going against the law of God who respects no man's culture. Just shut up already and stop making Grace seem like a license to commit abomination. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by hollowpot15684(m): 11:07am On Oct 27, 2019 |
Youngzedd: Aswearugawd. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by alBHAGDADI: 11:07am On Oct 27, 2019 |
hollowpot15684: Ate you saved? Then it means you are a son of God and he won't condemn you. Does that mean he won't punish you here on Earth for breaking his rules? Hebrews 12:6-11 King James Version (KJV) For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by MuttleyLaff: 11:11am On Oct 27, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Why were the scribes fond of wearing long robes then, hmm? alBHAGDADI:Jesus included their dress code to address the motive for and behind why they dress in flowing "babaringa" like robes alBHAGDADI:OK, Mr Smartypants, even if the Bible never mentioned Jesus putting on robe by himself, the Bible at least mentions that without shrugging it off, Jesus obediently let them put on Him a robe naah. No be so, hmm? Bhorbymills1990:Jesus on different occasions, is recorded in the Bible to have worn either garment or robe. Bhorbymills1990:Jesus wore both. Let me give you a chance to shine like a star and be a hero. Whats the difference between a garment and robe? Of course if you know, you'll easily and correctly know the difference, even pinpoint the different occasions, when and where Jesus wore garment and robe, lol. alBHAGDADI:"The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God." - Deuteronomy 22:5 "alBHAGDADI is my very good customer. We have regular transactions together. The most recent one, I have asked alBHAGDADI many times over, to please and kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, that's if at all if he really does know, to soon explain to us, the reason behind why, in the Bible, God said cross dressing is an abomination to Him and that women should abstain from wearing what belongs to men, likewise men what belongs to women, but this request seems to be hard and difficult for him to deliver and give answers to" - Re: Daddy Freeze Hails Pastor Abel Damina For Saying Women Can Wear Trousers by MuttleyLaff: 3:41pm On Apr 09 Women, in Deuteronomy 22:5, were told to stay away from men's clothing and vice versa only because of the idolatrous practices associated with cross dressing, that is meaning, men wearing women’s clothing, and vice versa as part of carrying out an idolatrous rite. Deuteronomy 22:5, is about the idolatory pagan ritual custom that cross dressing is associated with. That's the underlying reason of concern to God about cross dressing. It is the association with idolatry practices and pagan ritualistics done when and with wearing clothes of the opposite sex that is detesting to God. alBHAGDADI you couldnt answer that question when I previously asked you, why God detests it, but now you know better and we thank God for that. So, alBHAGDADI, that is the reason, the why and what God dislikes and says its an abomination, period. OK? Any other twisting and turning by you naa wash ojaare. alBHAGDADI you already know me that I dont venture into subjects I havent a watertight understanding of and this how I easily can show you verses in 2 Kings and Zephaniah that explains Deuteronomy 22:5 has to do with cross dressing associated idolatrous practices and/or rites, lol. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by hollowpot15684(m): 11:17am On Oct 27, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Once again, im forced to respond because i do not want you to mislead the people the bible refer to as 'babes' among us. I agree with you that the law of God is no respecter of culture but then that is where objectivity comes in. You cannot go to Sweden and tell their traditional men that they can't wear robe, you must be crazy if you do such. cos Christianity don't stop you from wearing Agbada as a Yoruba man or Danshiki as an Hausa person. Once again let me say it to your deaf hears, the new covenant is not concern of looks but heart. Your heart is the most important factor here, all your condemnations are not but western cultural orientation that eventually mix with Christianity. I rest my case here Pastor. 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Bhorbymills1990: 11:25am On Oct 27, 2019 |
jaxxy: The difference between garment and robe is that garment is a single item of clothing while robe is a long loose outer garment, often signifying honorary stature. Hope it helps |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by jaxxy(m): 11:33am On Oct 27, 2019 |
Bhorbymills1990: Ok it helps identify them bt it still doesn’t answer the op confusion on which and why Jesus did/didn’t wear it. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Bhorbymills1990: 11:40am On Oct 27, 2019 |
jaxxy: That should have been the question the Op ought to ask .... It's simply Jesus didn't wear Robes because of the Hononary Stature Attached to wearing Robes as a teacher |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by HeyCorleone(m): 11:40am On Oct 27, 2019 |
Cousin9999: Leave the dude. The part where he shocked me was when he said Jesus never had long hair. Jesus, the Nazarene, never had long hair? alBHAGDADI, you're just an unfunny joke. Pseudo-intellect like you. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by Cruz889(m): 11:45am On Oct 27, 2019 |
Cousin9999:Bro even priest don't preach this That part of the Bible That preach against dressing code is the old testament and all its contents is buried in the culture of the Israelite. so before you interpret the Bible (old testament) first you have to have knowledge of Israelite culture, a bit at least |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by wiseone28: 11:46am On Oct 27, 2019 |
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Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by mvem(m): 11:49am On Oct 27, 2019 |
jconsulting:lady you don't need to be there. History shows us what people of that time wore, it is not rocket science. We know where Jesus lived and what era he lived .So simply find out how they dress in the that region and that particular time. The Op is confusing himself. Men of that era did not wear trousers but flowing robes/gown...whatever you call it but their cloths were quite different from the ones worn by the ladies 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by TheExecutioner: 11:53am On Oct 27, 2019 |
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Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by alBHAGDADI: 11:55am On Oct 27, 2019 |
HeyCorleone: Nazarite and Nazareth are two different words. Nazareth is a town in Israel which Jesus was from. That's why he's sometimes called Jesus of Nazareth. Nazarite is someone who made a vow which involves him not doing certain things e.g cutting his hair, drinking wine, going close to bodies etc. Jesus did all of that and nowhere is it recorded that he took Nazarite vows like Samson. Stop mistaken the word Nazarite for Nazareth. Can you see that you have no right to mock me? Numbers 6:1-6 (KJV) 1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When either man or woman shall separate themselves to vow a vow of a Nazarite, to separate themselves unto the LORD: 2 He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried. 3 All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk. 4 All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no razor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in the which he separateth himself unto the LORD, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow. 5 All the days that he separateth himself unto the LORD he shall come at no dead body. |
Re: Jesus Never Wore Robe: A Preaching Against Men Who Wear Women's Clothing by mvem(m): 11:58am On Oct 27, 2019 |
Bhorbymills1990:show us the pictorial difference |
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