ubunja:
I agree. I've always believed that once a guy becomes RedPill he has to dump his GF and find a new girl to start with in Alpha mode. I have not voiced this before because I'm aware how controversial it will be. So many of guys' headaches will evaporate if they just nuke the current relationship and start over this time employing all the wisdom of Game they have accumulated. From letting the woman choose them to being aware of a woman's sexual imprint (by checking what her Exes look like. Including info on the girl's first guy to sleep with her)

That way it will be a way smoother sailing.

Sad reality.


Shit happens

[quote author=Fisher007 post=87507064]

Been reading your comments on the wall, women's sexual market value, women on rotation, the peak years of men and women . I can see you have an in-depth knowledge and am feeling the vibes until this one.

It is always just your turn even in marriage. No amount of frame, alpha traits, redpill you keep. She will still bring out that female nature (hypergamous nature which will eventually leads to cheating, shit testing, manipulation, play the weaker gender move, slave you into plantation with or without your knowledge - subconsciously).

You will need to be passing shit test on a daily basis, if not you will become a statistic ( i.e get fed up and divorce).

Ubunja is great and still sane, at least he still believe in a relationship. My brother when you take the redpill (full extreme like me) you won't even want a relationship with women. You will enter level 1-2 of MGTOW.
thank u for this, never cohabit with a lady, u will regret it, i pity guys that do that

emmaodet:


And broke women? Are you not aware everything has been thrown open?
All the knowledge needed to be rich are all exposed and given to modern women now, so what is the excuse again?
If men decides to be broke, what is your fear? Why don't you put in the work to be rich and live your life instead of banking on a man.
#Saynotobrokewomen#

Stop trying to make her see the falsity in her position. I said earlier that women operate from a place of perfection. Even if she has less than 1000 naira in her account, you with 1M could be considered broke in her eyes, when she at the same time, lacks the ability to be conscious of her own brokenness. Rules are for men, afterall she is perfect, and calling her to order is obviously misogyny.

Blame her not, it is the fault of the idiotic society and men that have made them feel like they are the best thing ever.

Usorohtheman:
do you know that ubunja's points can be applied in office situations and it will work?

Nope they don't know.

pansophist:


Sayin guys are wailing and regurgitating the same thing over and over again is a form of silencing. As an analogy, will you silence a sick patient that was refused medication because he complains that the problem still persists? The solution is to fix it, not silence, as it only makes it worse as the problem will inevitably compound.

Furthermore, the issue here is not about the core nature of humans (women) being good or bad, of course, we know that. It is that the fault of a few men (eg misogynist) is spotlighted and extrapolated on the majority of hardworking men while implying that women are perfect and incapable of being horrible. It is the narrative that men monopolize violence and everything wrong in a woman's life, and alternative refutes are met with anger. It is that women are giving a pass for the same thing men will be hanged for. It is the double standard, it is the hypocrisy, and the lack of being good people to men.

To women, goodness is only one-way. From a man to a woman, and expecting her to be better is discriminating. You cant expect good behaviors from men and not expect the same from women. Do you know the female version of chivalry? When a woman say ''size matters'', does it cross their consciousness that her coochie size should matter as well? When they want a rich man, does it cross their mind that they should be rich themselves? paying for dates, should I continue? That's the point.

Pan, I understand that self centered people are everywhere and it knows no gender. There are people who except perfection, chivalry and goodness from others but will never try to give/show these attributes to others.These sets entitled beings will judge and react negatively, cuss people, throw trantrums if people decide to pay back them their coin. And again it's no gender thing.


However the main cause of the society we have today is Stereotypes! When people feel a particular gender is bad and begin to fight against the other gender. If people tackle inhumane behaviors on individual/personal basis and not because the exhibitor is a Man or Woman. There will be no chaos in our society today. But unlike what we have today, an offender would be judged based on it's sex, this will pass threat to other members of the same sex and they revolve then the gender war starts. Here's the truth: No gender can win this war. Rather those involved will end up creating a calculative, loveless and cold society because both genders will keep on intimating movements and ideas to beat each other.


I don't like dwelling on same topics or talks for long lol I guess that must have prompted my post you quoted, how people find such long epistles easy to type over the same topic baffles me.

Nat404:
Lol. U may answer my question.

Women seem so desperate these days.

What happened to the word SOME? Not all women are desperate

Arthur21s:
everyone has a past. At least she isnt so vulgar,what will you say of funmi who can never change? You think in a decade from now when her NL beau has dumped her she will not pour the frustration on you by trolling you?
At least the a.riza girl has changed for good,her change is permanent.

Hahahaha Bros no let trousers wear you ooo... . That I typed something you like doesn't mean I will keep on doing that. I'm not one to engage in gender war let alone stay in allegiance to a particular gender. I'm very neutral!
Tomorrow I can hit guys hard same way I do to ladies. Only the wise understands my person.


I can be very annnnnnnnnoooooyyyyyiiiinnnggggggg but I make sense when I want to.

Ariza:
Hahahaha Bros no let trousers wear you ooo... . That I typed something you like doesn't mean I will keep on doing that. I'm not one to engage in gender war let alone stay in allegiance to a particular gender. I'm very neutral!
Tomorrow I can hit guys hard same way I do to ladies. Only the wise understands my person.


I can be very annnnnnnnnoooooyyyyyiiiinnnggggggg but I make sense when I want to.

when I talk of change I mean quit trolling redpillers like sexylassie and using vulgar words. No one cares/wants you on our side

Sotland:


I quite disagree to an extend Sir/Ma.. In my opinio, women ain't suppose to love let alone loving more than the man should and there isn't a law that states that woman should love more. The fact remains that women are naturally lovers, they are love by nature.

Women are like a raw material or a clay. Whatever you use them to mold is what they will become. They are like an incubator, whatever you build in them, that's what you get as a product..

There is just a law for the women to men.. " submissive" which majority of them hard to keep, especially those who thinks they are equal to men and crave for gender equality..lol "crap from daughters of Jezebel"..

Men naturally have a harden heart and rarely can love without duplicate; in fact, they love themselves more.. And this is why the law stipulated that " Men love your Women as thyselves "


Yes, Most men are emotional loose, hence they have lost their prestige.. However for those who truly understand the above principle, they know they should love women more but take charge/control of the relationship..Let the emotionally loose men MAN UP!!

Nkogheri.com

Oyindidi:
What happened to the word SOME? Not all women are desperate

Not some but mostly.

Arthur21s:

Toxicity is only used on men,never women. Till date they hold the narrative only men are predators when its men that have their penis chopped off,killed in their sleep...
Not too long the senate in US wanted to pass a law against misogyny,when it was proposed by a men's right activist that there should also be a law against misandry the feminists cried foul and objected that men are strong and misandry has little effect on men compared to misogyny.


I am glad men eyes are opening by the day.

No, those senators are not idiots, they know what's up, but they are playing a different game. Mind you, these political prostitutes are all rentboys for the oligarchs and corporations, and their career is predicated on how much profit they can turn into their pocket, and sell out the people that entrust the nation in their hands. Do you think it was a coincidence that the porn industry took off during the '50s, an era that marks the beginning of radical feminism? before women will be comfortable naked on camera, and being a cum bag for multitudes of men, you have to convince the mass that she is sexually liberated and create a culture that supports it.

The culture has to support it, and you can see it via the evolution of the fashion industry, and the entertainment industry. With every passing decade, clothes become more sexually revealing, music becomes too explicit, movies that photocopy soft porn becomes acceptable (eg 50 shades of grey). Feminism is a tool, and when it fully serves its purpose, it will disappear. The masses are just being played by those on top, it is one giant shit game.

If you also notice, feminism is a thing you will only find in the western sphere of influence. China has a GDP almost the size of the USA, but you don't see Chinese women screaming or feeling oppressed, it is simply because they are not in the western sphere of influence. If the Chinese government begin to indoctrinate Chinese girls with the patriarchy theory and oppression nonsense, it should not be surprising that in a few decades, the social and gender problems experienced in the west and countries with western outlook (eg Nigeria) will become a reality there. China is not stupid for banning Instagram, Google, Facebook, pornography, and all the channels that can be used to indoctrinate Chinese and cause social mayhem.

As I see it, feminism was needed to add more labor to the workforce, flooding the market with more workers than needed, making workers disposable and big business can make a huge profit, and create new industries out of nowhere (e.g porn, sexual gadgets). Right now, it is the immigrants, the illegals that are taking that place, and after them, it will be robotics and automation. And it is happening already. It is about the bigger picture.

ubunja:
that's why I never voiced my belief because I knew even hardcore RedPillers would have a problem with it.

But how you start with a woman is how you end with her. That advice was given to the p1mp Iceberg Slim by a master p1mp. It's time-tested. When you get a woman by being a blue pill simp she'll never see you as an alpha down the line.

Rollo Tomassi in his book, Positive Masculinity made references to this, albeit, in a different way.

He advised former blue-pilled men to ditch their current girlfriends when they go red-pilled as women never change seeing you that way.

He also advised same men to avoid exes because female exes would most likely find you attractive when you have gone red-pilled and channelled your love into developing yourself. The baggage they come with, is that, you would constantly be shît-tested by these women to test your frame of masculinity. If you don't find all of these and she's dropping her panties, take a dive in without losing your red-pilled.

Oyindidi:
What happened to the word SOME? Not all women are desperate

Some are desperately respirate

Skepticus:


Rollo Tomassi in his book, Positive Masculinity made references to this, albeit, in a different way.

He advised former blue-pilled men to ditch their current girlfriends when they go red-pilled as women never change seeing you that way.

He also advised same men to avoid exes because female exes would most likely find you attractive when you have gone red-pilled and channelled your love into developing yourself. The baggage they come with, is that, you would constantly be shît-tested by these women to test your frame of masculinity. If you don't find all of these and she's dropping her panties, take a dive in without losing your red-pilled.

it's in line with this:

ubunja:
I hear you. But the Red Pill after marriage is more a case making the best of a bad situation. Because first of all, after viewing you as a simp for years, your wife won't wake up one day and see you as alpha.

She remembers All of your simping ways from day one. All the little scams you fell for like the simp you were. She remembers them well.

ubunja:
you can't conduct the experiment?

Also, I want you to realize that "A woman can never change a man because she loves him? A man changes because He loves the woman" that brings us back to what I said earlier.. For MEN(Go for whom you love) For Women( Go for who loves you)..

mablie:
She will be back using a similar or different monicker because she loved the attention she garnered on this forum.Whether it was positive or negative attention never really mattered to her as long as it was attention.Attention is like a heroin addiction to these broads.They can't stay too long without it

I am not going to lie but i HATED the way ubunja & Martinez made that basic lil bitch prominent on here
Their correspondence many times with her was fuccking embarassing

Sotland:


Also, I want you to realize that "A woman can never change a man because she loves him? A man changes because He loves the woman" that brings us back to what I said earlier.. For MEN(Go for whom you love) For Women( Go for who loves you)..

you can type the whole day or you can go out and experiment.

BetWinners:

I am not going to lie but i HATED the way ubunja & Martinez made that basic lil bitch prominent on here
Their correspondence many times with her was fuccking embarassing

ease up. She's one of the few who always understood men's issues. For as long as I have known her she has never been anti-men.

There's no need to push away the few females who are kind to the cause.

ubunja:
ease up. She's one of the few who always understood men's issues. For as long as I have known her she has never been anti-men.

There's no need to push away the few females who are kind to the cause.

She understood men's issues!?
Oh really!?
Listen bruv she only used you & Martinez to get recognised on here & she succeeded
It was all a game for her.I've seen that scenario a hundred times.It has even happened to me
Women never do what isn't in their best interests

BetWinners:

She understood men's issues!?
Oh really!?
Listen bruv she only used you & Martinez to get recognised on here & she succeeded
It was all a game for her.I've seen that scenario a hundred times.It has even happened to me
Women never do what isn't in their best interests

I hear you. But not every female is out to get you. There'll always be women who sympathise with men. Don't trust any woman but a woman who has maintained a track record of rationality doesn't have to be treated like an enemy. At the very least treat her like another guy. Fairly. But don't be harsh needlessly.

ubunja:
I hear you. But not every female is out to get you. There'll always be women who sympathise with men. Don't trust any woman but a woman who has maintained a track record of rationality doesn't have to be treated like an enemy. At the very least treat her like another guy. Fairly. But don't be harsh needlessly.

So in other words NAWALT!?
My brother,why are you contradicting yourself?

Fisher007:


Once you have done this you become limitless. You will see your fellow brothers and pity them in their self inflicted misery.

Truer words have never been spoken. The most unfortunate is when I see different pre-wedding photo shoots. I can immediately tell which groom is a simp and which wife is a hoe

BetWinners:

So in other words NAWALT!?
My brother,why are you contradicting yourself?

all women are hoes. But there is no reason not to accept female kindness.


If it was up to some of you a man will never speak to a woman again. That's not the way.

Belafonte:


Truer words have never been spoken. The most unfortunate is when I see different pre-wedding photo shoots. I can immediately tell which groom is a simp and which wife is a hoe

lol "which wife is a hoe".

ubunja:
all women are hoes. But there is no reason not to accept female kindness.


If it was up to some of you a man will never speak to a woman again. That's not the way.

Haba!! You are not being fair to me
I am just being realistic because I've seen it all when it comes to women & that your snowflake isn't different from the rest.
Didn't you ever notice how it was only the Starboys in the romance section she always corresponded with & ignored the unknown guys even the ones who were always kissing her nyansh!?
What would she have gained by "fighting" for mens issues?
What was her personal interest/s in such an endeavour?
Ubunja come on now

ubunja:
lol "which wife is a hoe".

I kid you not. Most times, I can tell which bride is only getting married for the sake of it but actually belongs to the streets.

ubunja:
all women are hoes. But there is no reason not to accept female kindness.


If it was up to some of you a man will never speak to a woman again. That's not the way.

Which is the reason I cannot be mgtow. The red pill is simply an expose on how female minds operate. Your anger as a man should be against the system that lied to you and seeks to enslave you to women, not women themselves.

Game is supposed to help you navigate the female dating field, not put you at odds with women.

It’s all a game, guys, f**cking play it.

Belafonte:


Which is the reason I cannot be mgtow. The red pill is simply an expose on how female minds operate. Your anger as a man should be against the system that lied to you and seeks to enslave you to women, not women themselves.

Game is supposed to help you navigate the female dating field, not put you at odds with women.

It’s all a game, guys, f**cking play it.

some guys are taking this too far. Women are made to fvck not hate.

BetWinners:

Haba!! You are not being fair to me
I am just being realistic because I've seen it all when it comes to women & that your snowflake isn't different from the rest.
Didn't you ever notice how it was only the Starboys in the romance section she always corresponded with & ignored the unknown guys even the ones who were always kissing her nyansh!?
What would she have gained by "fighting" for mens issues?
What was her personal interest/s in such an endeavour?
Ubunja come on now

You have seen it all when it comes to women, yes but if a woman offers you kindness or support or agreeableness, there's no reason to be negative towards her.

The Redpill has levels. I can't do your level. But if it keeps you happy go on. We can't agree on every little thing. As long as we agree on the majority of issues it's okay.

ubunja:
you can type the whole day or you can go out and experiment.

lol. You could not answer a simple question. Besides, I'd tell you I had experience; so why experiment?

Sotland:


lol. You could not answer a simple question. Besides, I'd tell you I had experience; so why experiment?

then tell us what happened.