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Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by Nobody: 4:17pm On Mar 29, 2020 |
Chimok: Future of telling the younger ones that the legacy left by awolowo is a devilish one. We have lost so much life through sniper. Same way awolowo ended his with rat poison. What a shameless man. |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by Armaggedon: 3:41pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
pazienza:It is not irrelevant. Ijaws dont identify as Igbos during marriage but Ikwerres do use kinship ties as a bargaining ship during marriage negotiations. That's the difference. When the issues of creation of Bayelsa out of river state rose the ikwerres approached Azikiwe and Ukiwe on the basis of kinship and appealed for the support. I've seen ikwerre guys complain in PH how ijaws help each other but ikwerres rather help Igbo's. The Ikwerres and their co conspirators know how to play on your emotions by getting things from you when they need you, and using audio denial to keep you from DEMANDING a reciprocity because they know they can't reject such demand. pazienza:marriage is a personal issue but audio denial is an ethnic issue? pazienza:don't be ridiculous. You don't have such power. There is a reason why every ethnic group is recognized all over the world by their first language instead of how they choose to identify. That is why you have German speaking pple, Igbo speaking pple etc instead of German identifying pple. The issue of identity is purely politics. It follows that no Igbo person has the right to declare a fellow igbo as a non Igbo for political gain. If you make such move, the world will not listen to you cos you all are seen as igbos. If you lack the political tact devoid of emotions to handle it, nobody and no amount of cries will do it for you. The Europe of today had numerous nations states, athens, sparta, yorkshire, etc before nationalists fought, unified them along national lines and created nations states. pazienza:if ohaneze's recognition is your criterion why don't you accept Ikwerres also cos they are recognized by ohaneze? pazienza:you're overtly emotional in how you conceive these issues. Ohaneze ndigbo is itself insignificant. Who told you that once you're not in ohaneze you cease to be Igbo. Is there any ohaneze in your constitution? Your govt recognizes who they want as Igbo whenever they like and nothing happens. Even the int. community will keep mute whenever the person is from the Igbo speaking area. what has your ohaneze done to integrate Igbo's in equatorial guinea? pazienza:how can you say that an Igbo speaking people don't want to associate with what they speak? again, you speak of marriage as a personal thing that shouldn't be used as an evidence of closer ties and then want me to believe that how an average ikwerre choose to associate ( which is much more personal) is an "evidence" of their ethnic identity. what's the source of your confusion? pazienza:No. they are politics oriented. They belong to the British govt and are funded by them reasonably. They are their propaganda tool. Fredrick forsyth was recalled for reporting the civil war how it happened instead of how British govt wanted it to be seen. Their views always reflect the british govt policy and Eastern region is no different. You and i know that if Bbc Igbo report every success recorded by ipob or even report killings by herdsmen fairly, their follower ship and profit will rise geometrically. the question is why is it not so? pazienza:That wasn't your initial claim. Northern minorities also speak Hausa. That is well known and no one disputed that. But no northern minority will formally want to be addressed in Hausa. Non will consent to that. Tiv, junkun,idoma, nupe and those from jos have their languages. But it has been the policy of the Britain and fulani establishment to promote Hausa in the north as a means of unifying the north and increasing their dominance over the rest of the country, divide Eastern region by replacing igbo with pidgin.That was what they did. pazienza:Funny you! The truth is that those ikwerre ogba etche etc care less if the igbo language is taught in rivers or not. The fact that they are not taught is actually more of what the establishment want than what the natives want. majority of igbo deniers are audio deniers. whether wike, amaechi or any figure in their state says he is igbo or denys igbo non of them will even raise eyebrow except they continue scaring and emotionally bruising people like you with " I am not Igbo" . That's the truth. pazienza:Lol. Which ikwerre group cos i follow every ethnic group on face book? If it is the group i know ( that has about four thousand of their pple) then i am aware the hateful and dss paid fool who control it has since been silenced by people who put aside emotion in handling delicate issues. Ogbakor ikwerre was formed by people like elechi amadi after the civil war so you should expect nothing less than what they are doing. Its all political grandstanding and make- believe. pazienza:funny you again. when it comes to those of them who proclaim their igboness you claim they are playing politics but when it comes to those of them who speak Igbo, associate with Igbo, marry Igbo but SAY they are not Igbo, you easily forget they are the ones playing politics. pazienza:you like to sound like they really don't want to associate with anything Igbo. And i asked why apga which is Igbo personified made an impressive showing in 2011. people actually turned out during rallies despite having no fund for campaign an apga's lethargic leadership. so stop shifting goal post. pazienza:That is not how to check polularity. Kanu's popularity will be tasted through a fair and un monitored referendum. You know what? you have nothing meaningful to prove that we don't get along except that you are bruised by their audio denial. Police record show that the number of those arrested in ph during the first protest included almost half ikwerre/etche while the rest include efik/ibibio and Igbos residents. Kanus rally in Obigbo included Ikwerre chiefs, obigbo and ijaw leaders. Ipob members were killed in ph the same way they were killed in Nkpor and Asaba. They are being opposed the rivers state govt the same way they are opposed by south east govt. If anything the south east leaders have betrayed Biafrans more that those who deny igbo. They the SE govs and ohaneze you love to reverence came together and proscribed their own armless people seeking self determination. was wike or okowa present? Do you think a foremost Igbo leader like Nnia nwodo who proscribed his own people will hesitate to deny his igboness like those in Rivers if opportunity comes? It is all caused by the fulani controlled system which maked igbo denial lucrative. even kanu had to admit sometime ago that he doesnt blame SE govt because the fulanis held them by the balls. pazienza:any evidence aside hearsay? pazienza:you have already been captured by the emotions which audio Igbo denial trigger that you no longer think rationally. You speak of lingua franca. If it interests bbc they can actually open a tiv channel to promote the language, they can open a nupe or even pidgin channel. It's all a matter of their interest and long standing british govt policy in Nigeria. It is never a matter of what the people want or what the people are comfortable with. Why are they covering the herdsmen killings? because it doesnt help British govt and their fulani allies. It is all politics. There is no such thing as middle belt being comfortable with hausa. Stop sounding ridiculous. pazienza:still repeating same old stuff. pazienza:I'd rather have you say they "were severed from us" Because the so called igboid never really agitated for a state. It was ijaw and ogoni. The state was forcefully partitioned by gowon without a referendum. The rumu change you speak of was also forcefully changed not by an Igboid govt but by a fulani mole diete spiff. while you may say it has tacit support of many ikwerre, you cant directly hold them responsible for that if you want to be reasonable. wike made a public comment about ndigbo but your ohaneze leader proscribed armless igbo youths. Which is worse? Azikiwe was never a major candidate during the election after his betrayal during the war. Shagari had Ekwueme as vice and granted pardon to ojukwu . which favoured Igbo more? Yes ekwueme came with the idea of SS but the establishment accepted it because it accorded with their vision. If Ekwueme came up with the idea of Biafra at that point do you think the establishment will accent to it? If you are naive to believe SS stuff was ekwueme's making then you must believe zik removed referendum from our constitution. pazienza:Does marginalization draw people closer to the pple who marginalize them? when people are under pressure to deny their identity it means they are lured with attractive privileges in order to deny their true identity for political gains. so far umuezeokoha are being marginalized they will keep their true identity .Delta state for instance is not structured in a way that makes the Igbo deniers the rallying point unlike rivers state. That is why okowa who comes from Ika area is proudly Igbo and even trying to unify Igbo groups in the state. Igbo identity has earned him governorship position because it is zoned. and it happened that proud Igbos of enuani serve as the rallying point of some sort for Delta North. if the ukwuani or ika were more powerful, enuani will have no choice than to follow suit. pazienza:you deliberately forgot other examples i gave. Btw Isoko and Urhobo were one at the begining and understand themselves more than ijaw people. It just happened that the Bristh colonialist met them as seperate tribes. Efik and ibibio are one but they failed to unify with an umbrella name like ijaw who are made up of many mutually unintelligible languages. The same thing that unified the ijaws with mutually unintelligible languages in Bayelsa, unified north under arewa despite dissenting voices, is the same force that divides the more homogeneous Igbo nations. Its called politics. But your problem is that you don't tackle it from the political angle, you follow the emotional angle. So far the we run an anti Igbo system, a system which makes Igbo denial a viable and lucrative political adventure, a system which associate Igbo denial with upward 'political mobility'. Things like this will continue. Dismantle it and see politics follow its natural order. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by Armaggedon: 8:11pm On Mar 30, 2020 |
Pazienza you said no one is dividing igbos. If the reverse were the case, and the British needed the north divided as away of controlling the country, do you think Hausa language will be taught in the minority states of the north? do you think hausa will be promoted systematically while allowing minority first languages of the north to go into extinction? Do you even think there would be anything like "Hausa fulani" as a single ethnic group. Do you know the British govt barred missionaries from entering into emirates and muslim strongholds in northern Nigeria as well as sudan? Islam, fulanism and Hausa language were used to unify the north while Fear of igbo dominance and resources were used to divide Eastern region (including southern cameroon) and to keep it divided, in other to achieve their longterm objective of controlling Nigeria. Do you know that while the east gave minorities power, The NPC had as its motto "one north" while also having as their unsaid motto "several souths" . It started with the western region crisis which lead to the creation of midwest through a referendum and ended with the forceful partitioning of the eastern region. Although states were also created in the north, they were merely political boundaries. political and religious dynamics in the north which favoured their unity under Hausa Fulani and Islamic identity was untouched while political dynamics in the east which favoured the rallying together of Eastern minorities around a homogeneous and united Igbo race in building a progressive region and one of the fastest growing economy in the world was altered. This is why You have Ohaneze for Igbos, Afenifere for Yoruba's and instead of having Arewa for Hausa/Fulani alone, you have it for the entire north which is only half populated by them. If you are on ground as you say you will know that the claim of Christians being minority in the north is make-believe. North is 50/50 between muslims and Christians, which means than muslims are large minority in Nigeria. Many northern minorities dont want anything to do with hausa/fulani ( jerry gana example) But they are helpless since the system is already in the control of the hausa fulani muslim. your impression that Northern minorities are comfortable with Hausa/Fulani's because they speak their language is absolutely unfounded. Don't underestimate the role a system plays in shaping the workings of a society. 2 Likes |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by ProWalker: 1:50pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
Chimok: Why is it always Ibos causing rife everywhere |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by catherine1998: 5:20pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
Ikweres are Igbos, but are aggrieved over the kind of wicked treatment & attitude they got from some part of Igbos(present day Anambras) who had their people in corridor of power back in the days, whom did not carry them along, instead treated them like an outcast, then oil have not become what it is now, so these part of Igbo group felt that ikweres are noting and will never become anything(as if they were GOD) so they maltreated them so badly both in actions and words, words like you are not igbo and so many other ways of discrimination. So when fortune now turned & oil boomed, PH now become toast of many they(Ikweres) decided to take their stand, that is the identity issue we are having with them, same is applicable with the Igbos across the bridge. |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by Dedetwo(m): 5:30pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
Obiobidgbo14: I do not whom you referred as "We" in the above post. However if you remotely meant Ndigbo, there is no deceiving in saying that Ikwerre are not Igbo. Ikwerre have told every ear that wishes to listen that Ikwerre are not Igbo. If a finger becomes cancerous, it is patient that a person should surgically remove the finger. Ikwerre are nobodies to attract such attention. As far as I am concerned, Ikwerre are not Igbo. 1 Like |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by Doc10q: 5:38pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
MelesZenawi: It doesn't matter what Nigeria recognised OR registered us as! What matters is what we were naturally and originally known as...we are not dealing with politics here remember that. Nigeria is a big scam and u should have known that by now. I don't go with any useless thing that Nigeria said, I go with what my ancestors said cos Nigeria is not my ancestor! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by Dedetwo(m): 5:39pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
catherine1998: I stand be corrected, nobody treated Ikwerre wrongly during the regional days. Ikwerre people contested election with Ikwerre candidates during regional and federal elections in 50s and 60s Nigeria. The same goes to Ijo, Ibibio, Efik and Annang. Elechi Amadi contested with fellow guy and he, Elechi Amadi failed and lost his deposit. Even Eyo Ita lost the elementary school master was well funded. During the 1959 election, the only Ijo dude who won under mushroom party called NDC (Niger Delta Congress) was Melford Okilo. He competed with fellow Ijo candidate not Igbo. As for crude oil, Ikwerre do not have any crude oil worthy of envy or admiration. |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by Doc10q: 5:55pm On Mar 31, 2020 |
MelesZenawi: Fact from who.. I've told u to stop talking rubbish abt us being ibo or not being Ibo cos it shows me that u know nothing abt history |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by Nobody: 2:46pm On Apr 01, 2020 |
Amarabae: Post the fb group here let's see Abi na spiritual group? |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 11:19pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
selemempe:Your argument is a perfect justification for the 30 month police action of 1967.Works a treat! Today many Ibos are proud Nigerians. Even Ojukwu's wife was an ambassador. You are brilliant |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 11:41pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
selemempe:They rejected the Ibo bible that was imposed on them They rejected the NCNC candidate from ABA Elugwaraonu and voted in an independent candidate Wonodi. They rejected the overbearing attitude of the early Ibo settlers who sought to rename their towns in their own image, Attitudinally the Ikwerre man is very unlike the Ibo man and Kay Williamson established that Ikwerre is a language not a dialect of Ibo. |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 11:48pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Dedetwo: Go and find out the story of Elugwaraonu and Wonodi in Port Harcourt Ikwerres were forced to worship in an alien language in church Ogbakor Ikwerre started before the civil war. This fascism of thought that we see with IPOB is no better than Boko Haram. Everyone must subscribe to this distorted and ersatz worldview. There is a reason why the abandoned property saga was worst in Port Harcourt. Sadly you folk lack the capacity for genuine self appraisal and persist in self deceit. You want to believe that the prefix RUMU was brought from Sokoto The truth is it was not. It was autochthonous Stop for a moment and ponder how the reverse scenario would have felt if a larger group settled among you and start "correcting " your place names because they don't sound right to THEIR EARS. The IKWERRE language is Rumu and all their towns and villages were changed to UMU Who did that? How? Why? We the Yoruba say Omo not Umu. DON'T worry when we take over Ibo land any place whose name starts with Umu will be changed to Omo E.g Omookoro,Omoofia,I will even have a town named after me Omonnakoda |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 12:00am On Apr 28, 2020 |
Dedetwo:You can leave when the lockdown ends but your land is conquered and Annexed that is what strong people have done to weaker ones throughout history |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 8:08am On Apr 28, 2020 |
selemempe:Says an Ibo man who loves homosexual porn |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by selemempe: 9:16am On Apr 28, 2020 |
omonnakoda:
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Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by hammer0: 9:24am On Apr 28, 2020 |
omonnakoda: Meanwhile, the known homosexuals in west africa and nigeria are yoruba en. I just keep wondering y u want igbo men to join u people? 1 Like |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 9:28am On Apr 28, 2020 |
hammer0: https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/google-reveals-10-nigerian-states-with-highest-search-for-gay-porn-in-2019/23dz8w4 Despite the law which criminalises gay relationships in Nigeria, Google Trends for 2019 points to the fact that there may be a growing community of same sex groups in the country. The bill, which was signed into law by former President Goodluck Jonathan in 2014, bans same sex marriages, amorous relationships, and membership of gay rights groups. It stipulates a punishment of 14-years jail term for lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgender (LGBT+). But, according to statistics provided by Google Trends for 2019, South-East states rank high among the states searching for gay pornography in Nigeria and is closely followed by South-South states. Imo tops the list closely followed by Enugu, Anambra, Abia and Delta states. The Federal Capital Territory, Abuja comes in at number eight while Lagos places ninth on the list. According to the data, March 10-16 of 2019 accounts for the lowest search period for gay porn while December 22-28 accounts for the highest search. The top 10 states searching for gay porn in Nigeria according to web searches are: Imo Enugu Anambra Abia Delta Edo Rivers Abuja Lagos Bauchi |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by hammer0: 1:43pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
[s] omonnakoda:[/s] I WAS INTERESTED IN THIS, UNTIL I SAW THE SOURCE. YET ANOTHER TRIBALISTIC AFONJA THIRD WORLD NEWS. YORUBA HAVE TURN MEDIA INTO TRIBAL ATTACK PLATFORM. ZOO MEDIA, ZERO CREDIBILITY |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 1:50pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
hammer0: You want to know the source? LAST 12 MONTHS https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=NG&q=Gay%20porn LAST 7 DAYS https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%207-d&geo=NG&q=Gay%20porn LAST 16 YEARS https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=NG&q=Gay%20porn |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by hammer0: 2:16pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
omonnakoda: LOOK, I CANNOT DESPUTE GOOGLE TREND, BUT I HAVE MY RESERVATION ABOUT HOW THEY CAME TO THIS CONCLUSION. BESIDES IT IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE PROVE OF ANYTHING. IT IS VAGUE. |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by hammer0: 2:53pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
MIND U, I THINK HOMOSEXUALS ARE THE MOST DESPICABLE PEOPLE ON EARTH. VERY DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR. I CAN ONLY OFFER PRAYERS THAT THEY MAY RECEIVE HEALING. |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 5:39pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
hammer0: Sure why did they pick those states? Abi they hate Ibos? |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by hammer0: 9:40am On Apr 29, 2020 |
omonnakoda: LIKE I SAID, HOW THEY CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION IS THE MAIN ISSUE. IS IT BASED ON PORN SITE VISIT AND THEY GAY SECTION OR THE NUMBER OF TIMES THE GAY WORD WAS TYPED INTO GOOGLE. THIS IS THE AREA THAT WILL HELP US TO UNDERSTAND MORE. EITHER WAY, ALL REGIONS WERE FEATURED WITH THEIR STATES. IT IS NO PROE OF ANYTHING. |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 9:59am On Apr 29, 2020 |
hammer0:There is no conclusion,no inference so spare me the amateur sophistry Nigeria has the highest search for gay porn in Africa period. The information reflects the number of hits on pornsites searching for gay porn E.g Pornhub where those states are the king .Your people like gay porn period |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by hammer0: 10:04am On Apr 29, 2020 |
omonnakoda: IS IT ALL PORN SITE OR JUST PORNHUB? HOW GOOGLE COLLECTED THE DATA WILL GIVE US AN INSIGHT. IF IT IS ONLY PORNHUB, MAYBE THAT PARTICULAR SITE IS MORE POPULAR IN THAT REGION AS COMPARED TO OTHER REGION WHO MAY PREFER XHAMSTER OR XVIDEOS, REXXX ETC. SO, WE SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO JUMP THE GUN. |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 10:10am On Apr 29, 2020 |
hammer0:This is not a research or academic site the same methodology was used for the WHOLE WORLD This matter came to light when Nigeria passed Antigay legislation and the whole world was asking why the hypocrisy since Nigeria apparently loves gay porn so much. If you want to know the methodology GIYF I am very sure if Ibos were not highlighted we wouldn't be having this ridiculous conversation |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by hammer0: 10:13am On Apr 29, 2020 |
omonnakoda: THAT IS WAT THEY USUALLY SAY WEN PEOPLE OPPOSE HOMOSEXUAL ACTS. THEY DIG UP DATA FROM THEIR ANUS TO CLAIM U LOVE IT. SAME WAS DONE TO RUSSIA. HOMOSEXUALITY IS A DESPICABLE ACT THAT HAVE NO PLACE IN DESCENT SOCIETY. WE ALL HAVE A DUTY TO COME TOGETHER AND OPPOSE THE ANITCHRIST. THEY ARE HERE. |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by hammer0: 10:17am On Apr 29, 2020 |
INTERNET PORN IS ANOTHER EVIL BRAIN CHILD OF THE ANTICHRIST. THE OTHER IS GAMBLING AND PROSTITUTION. ANY PROGRESSIVE SOCIETY, WILL BE WORKING TO ELIMINATE THESE THINGS, ALONGSIDE DRUGS AND ROBBERY. HOW CAN WE DO THIS? BY CREATING JOBS, IMPROVING THE EDUATION SYSTEM, CIVIL SOCIETY AND SOCIAL WELFARE. UNFORTUNATELY NIGERIA IS SO RUN DOWN, THAT WE CANNOT MEET THESE CIVIL RESPONSIBILITIES. |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 10:18am On Apr 29, 2020 |
hammer0: Pray ,do you believe in God are you Christian ,Muslim or traditionalist? |
Re: I Didnt Know Gov Nyesom Wike Is Of Igbo Descent by omonnakoda: 10:19am On Apr 29, 2020 |
hammer0:internet porn,gambling and prostitution create plenty of jobs |
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