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Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by notcorrupt: 8:01pm On Dec 29, 2010
jay bee:

@OP
I bet u work as a contractor in the UK.
What permanent IT jobs pay >7K after tax in the UK or even US?
With 10-20 years experience you had still be earning <5k after tax so asking for 2M is a bit far fetched.

Engineers with >3yrs experience (Oil Coys) in naija earn above >15 M per annum

This was me expecting you to say u work as an IB grin grin grin

Yeah right,

Assuming you earn 50K in the UK which when converted to Naira = 1.25 million , and then you factor in housing , car, inconveniences etc etc, 2m is nothing, especially when you have to pay school fees which otherwise you do not pay in the UK ( free education ) and health care ( again free in the UK ).
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by Mobinga: 8:06pm On Dec 29, 2010
Yes, you can come back. Please stop by and visit Jos soon. Thanks
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by jaybee3(m): 8:08pm On Dec 29, 2010
dude with 50k, ur take home pay is: <3K => <750K Naira
Stop manufacturing figures in your head.

Do you work as a contractor?
Mind u IT professional is pretty generic, What do u specialise in?
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by notcorrupt: 8:14pm On Dec 29, 2010
jay bee:

dude with 50k, your take home pay is: <3K => <750K Naira
Stop manufacturing figures in your head.

Do you work as a contractor?
Mind u IT professional is pretty generic,  What do u specialise in?





grin grin grin grin

I am not manufacturing figures in my head, many of us earn more than £50k in the Cisco and security world and I mean permanent not contracting.

But, I want like for like, before tax. Lets not go down the route of take home pay. 

Nigeria is not exactly an easy place to live in, just like you have London weighting , should there not be Lagos inconveniences allowance  grin, seriously ?
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by jaybee3(m): 8:22pm On Dec 29, 2010
I seriously doubt you earn over 73K per annum before tax working as a permanent staff
Mind you, i'm very familiar with IT.

You'd be lucky to earn 10M per annum in Naija
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by notcorrupt: 8:25pm On Dec 29, 2010
jay bee:

I seriously doubt you earn over 73K per annum before tax working as a permanent staff
Mind you, i'm very familiar with IT.
I work as an analyst programmer so i know my onions

You'd be lucky to earn 10M per annum in Naija

I am even more familiar with IT than you are, lol.

As a senior network designer and implementer, working for large British and American blue chip organizations, 10M is having a laugh , seriously.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by jaybee3(m): 8:28pm On Dec 29, 2010
Not going to argue with you but frankly IT professionals don't earn 2M in naija.
That's just u living in fantasy land.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by Kobojunkie: 8:29pm On Dec 29, 2010
jay bee:

I seriously doubt you earn over 73K per annum before tax working as a permanent staff
Mind you, i'm very familiar with IT.
I work as an analyst programmer so i know my onions

You'd be lucky to earn 10M per annum in Naija

But 10 million per annum is approximately $75000 undecided
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by jaybee3(m): 8:32pm On Dec 29, 2010
^^^^
Quoted figures are in Pound Sterling
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by notcorrupt: 8:33pm On Dec 29, 2010
Kobojunkie:

But 10 million per annum is approximately $75000  undecided
Kobojunkie:

But 10 million per annum is approximately $75000  undecided


Yep.

Is that a lot ?
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by Kobojunkie: 8:34pm On Dec 29, 2010
Naira 10 million per annum is approximately $75 000!

Let's put it this way, I would not advise even my worst enemy to move down to Nigeria for that, especially for a senior position in IT. lol.

Here is an article that might make you feel good about it though


http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2010/09/07/the-perfect-salary-for-happiness-75000-a-year/

[size=13pt]The Perfect Salary for Happiness: $75,000[/size]

The study, which analyzed Gallup surveys of 450,000 Americans in 2008 and 2009, suggested that there were two forms of happiness: day-to-day contentment (emotional well-being) and overall “life assessment,” which means broader satisfaction with one’s place in the world. While a higher income didn’t have much impact on day-to-day contentment, it did boost people’s “life assessment.”

Now we have more details from the study, conducted by the Princeton economist Angus Deaton and famed psychologist Daniel Kahneman. It turns out there is a specific dollar number, or income plateau, after which more money has no measurable effect on day-to-day contentment.

The magic income: $75,000 a year. As people earn more money, their day-to-day happiness rises. Until you hit $75,000. After that, it is just more stuff, with no gain in happiness.

That doesn’t mean wealthy and ultrawealthy are equally happy. More money does boost people’s life assessment, all the way up the income ladder. People who earned $160,000 a year, for instance, reported more overall satisfaction than people earning $120,000, and so on.

“Giving people more income beyond 75K is not going to do much for their daily mood … but it is going to make them feel they have a better life,” Mr. Deaton told the Associated Press.

He added that, “As an economist I tend to think money is good for you, and am pleased to find some evidence for that.”

The results are fascinating, especially in this conflicted age of materialism. But I wonder how they would differ by region or city. Would $75,000 mark the ultimate day-to-day contentment in such high-cost cities as New York City, Los Angeles or San Francisco? I doubt it. Perhaps the salary number would be lower in South Dakota or Mississippi.

What do you think the income threshold would be in your town for maximum day-to-day happiness?
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by notcorrupt: 8:35pm On Dec 29, 2010
jay bee:

Not going to argue with you but frankly IT professionals don't earn 2M in naija.
That's just u living in fantasy land.


If your estimated 10m naira excludes housing and car allowance , then it is something to consider, but if it includes both of these important items it is a joke.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by notcorrupt: 8:36pm On Dec 29, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Naira 10 million per annum is approximately $75 000!

Let's put it this way, I would not advise even my worst enemy to move down to Nigeria for that, especially for a senior position in IT. lol

Don't mind Jay Bee, he is removed from the stark reality on the ground.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by Sharonf(f): 8:42pm On Dec 29, 2010
it is possible, but you may still be mad
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by dayokanu(m): 8:53pm On Dec 29, 2010
You might be mad sha if you think you would get 2m a month?

Are you the Vice president of Microsoft?
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by buzugee(m): 9:11pm On Dec 29, 2010
@ kobojunkie. etisalat pays their directors 4 million naira a month
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by notcorrupt: 9:19pm On Dec 29, 2010
buzugee:

@ kobojunkie. etisalat pays their directors 4 million naira a month

Which one be etisalat , grin grin grin grin
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by buzugee(m): 9:24pm On Dec 29, 2010
notcorrupt:

Which one be etisalat , grin grin grin grin
i think it is one of the telecom companies in nigeria. i know someone who moved from america to nigeria and got a job there as a director. he is on 48 million naira per annum. company car, company house.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by notcorrupt: 9:32pm On Dec 29, 2010
buzugee:

i think it is one of the telecom companies in nigeria. i know someone who moved from america to nigeria and got a job there as a director. he is on 48 million naira per annum. company car, company house.

so 2m monthly for a senior engineer in a similar setup is not asking too much , is it ?
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by buzugee(m): 9:32pm On Dec 29, 2010
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by buzugee(m): 9:36pm On Dec 29, 2010
notcorrupt:

so 2m monthly for a senior engineer in a similar setup is not asking too much , is it ?
2m a month is asking for too much if you are just a 'worker' in the field as you will be if you are a senior engineer. the big bucks comes if when you get in as a 'senior engineer'. you have such a bubbly personality such that you can manage people and people like you and want to achieve their goals because of the respect they have for you. when such qualities are recognized in you as with the guy who is now a director, only then will you be plucked from the field into management, only then can you ask for that kind of money and even more. people on the field dont earn that kinda cash, it is 'managers of men' that earn that.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by Kobojunkie: 9:39pm On Dec 29, 2010
Getting paid $30,000 a month as director in Nigeria? That is at least $360,000 a year in Nigeria --- WOW . . . do you happen to have information the particular job we are speaking of here. . . responsibilities etc?
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by jikings(m): 9:39pm On Dec 29, 2010
@ Poster. 2Million is apporximately £8000 per month. If you are currently earning that much in UK ( which I doubt), then you may need to seroiussly consider your move before heading south.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by buzugee(m): 9:41pm On Dec 29, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Getting paid $30,000 a month as director? WOW . . . do you happen to have information the particular job we are speaking of here. . . responsibilities etc?
oh yes. i will give you the guys name to google but that will not be nice for me to do. but yes he is one of the directors at etisalat. i know him personally so this is not one of those 'i know someone who knows someone who knows someone' story. young guy. in his thirties.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by Kobojunkie: 9:45pm On Dec 29, 2010
Not the guys name but info on this particular job and all. I have myself heard wonder stories of people earning and living like kings in Nigeria only to learn later it was all mostly mouth and nothing more. If this is true, I would definitely love to know more of the kind of job and all. I checked the website and nothing in the career area. I did email the career dept, and I hope to get filled on opportunities that may be available with the company and possibly salary grades for each position too. If I get it, that may help me better gauge what to expect with the company at the end of the day.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by Nobody: 9:50pm On Dec 29, 2010
Hello fellow Nigerians.

Another patriot hustla is about to take a leap into the abyss and return home from the UK

Two questions :

1. Do you think I am mad ? if yes state why

2. What are the possible challenges

3. For a good Job, how much is enough monthly, 2M million Naira a month ?


Your contributions will be appreciated.

abegi patriot ke, cameron is making things hot for foreigners. don't give us any bull about patriotism. just say long throat cheesy cheesy cheesy

2m per month - oil co workers and BIG ogas

mind you , outside of oil co's most other companies that pay that kind of money take their pound of flesh.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by buzugee(m): 9:50pm On Dec 29, 2010
Kobojunkie:

Not the guys name but info on this particular job and all. I have myself heard wonder stories of people earning and living like kings in Nigeria only to learn later it was all mostly mouth and nothing more. If this is true, I would definitely love to know more of the kind of job and all. I checked the website and nothing in the career area. I did email the career dept, and I hope to get filled on opportunities that may be available with the company and possibly salary grades for each position too. If I get it, that may help me better gauge what to expect with the company at the end of the day.
he is a director. that means he is in charge of the daily running of a section of the company. they have director of finance, director of marketing, DIRECTOR OF SALES etc etc. the director of finance is one ABHULIME EHIAGWINA, also someone known to me.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by rebranded(m): 9:52pm On Dec 29, 2010
If you looking for 2m/month, you should be at least a General manager (GM) to get paid that much!

Such jobs are usually not seating and waiting. .you should know the companies you are targeting and begin to do your homework

plus various organisations (KPMG, Careers in Africa, findajobinafrica etc) recruit for top management positions, so will be best you also look into that.

I wont want to return to Nigeria until after the elections if i was you though!

GLTY!
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by lagbaja20: 9:53pm On Dec 29, 2010
Isnt Etisalat owned by a Yoruba person?
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by notcorrupt: 9:55pm On Dec 29, 2010
buzugee:

2m a month is asking for too much if you are just a 'worker' in the field as you will be if you are a senior engineer. the big bucks comes if when you get in as a 'senior engineer'. you have such a bubbly personality such that you can manage people and people like you and want to achieve their goals because of the respect they have for you. when such qualities are recognized in you as with the guy who is now a director, only then will you be plucked from the field into management, only then can you ask for that kind of money and even more. people on the field dont earn that kinda cash, it is 'managers of men' that earn that.



lol. just a worker  

Any senior engineer with over 11 years experience from the UK or USA , having worked with major blue chip companies on up to $1b customer contracts, must be mad to accept less than 2m without house and car allowance.
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by buzugee(m): 9:56pm On Dec 29, 2010
lagbaja20:

Isnt Etisalat owned by a Yoruba person?
arab company
Re: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by notcorrupt: 9:59pm On Dec 29, 2010
rebranded:

If you looking for 2m/month, you should be at least a General manager (GM) to get paid that much!

Such jobs are usually not seating and waiting. .you should know the companies you are targeting and begin to do your homework

plus various organisations (KPMG, Careers in Africa, findajobinafrica etc) recruit for top management positions, so will be best you also look into that.

I wont want to return to Nigeria until after the elections if i was you though!

GLTY!

Thanks for the advice.

As I will be coming on my own, if any trouble ensues after the elections, I will make a dash for the nearest British Embassy grin grin grin grin grin

Companies that advertise through KPMG, Careers in Africa etc , do they pay Well ? If yes, in what region are we talking about.

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