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Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by adebayo10977(m): 6:18pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
mrvitalis: On what ground bro, U mean zoning formula for APC or PDP, if it's APC, forget about it concerning the flag bearer come 2023, you don't reap where you didn't sow... |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by Unik3030: 6:31pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
LabDNA:though I never wanted to comment but bro forget it, blackmail will never win u presidency. Nothing like being realistic or wise here,it's agreed d battle is between d south n I believe d Igbos always believe they are superior to other southerners. Oga abeg let's leave blackmail aside,let a Yoruba man n an Igbo man battle it out.the Igbos have supported d PDP for complete 20 years let them get their reward from there n d Yorubas should get their reward from APC......Then leave d rest for the north to judge who to vote for..simple as ABC 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by mrvitalis(m): 6:34pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
adebayo10977:Ok na ... |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by mrvitalis(m): 6:35pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
MetaPhysical:No wahala ...support Joe igbokwe na |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by Unik3030: 6:42pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
LabDNA:this lab rat I are too delusional n too unbelievable, despite what u people have done to buhari I believe d north will vote for u. it's obvious u haven't been to d north b4,if I have been dere then u shouldn't make that careless statement.Though I really don't know much about SS but an average Igbo man should forget d north cause d time they were trying to heal up is the time Nnamdi Kanu pepper old wound |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by LabDNA: 6:55pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
Unik3030: Mr illiterate Ewedurudeen, you are my experimental lab wister rat while I remain your Scientist. That's what your constitution says. The North transcends Buhari. Ahmadu Bello is greater than Buharo yet after Ahmadu Bello was killed, with all the yoruba ant-Igbo propaganda Igbo still got VP and several Senate president position. When Buhari goes and a level headed Northerner come aboard, water will still find it's level. I served in the North and Abokiis consider yorubanza politically unreliable, helping other tribes to win election for the first time just yesterday in 2015 because your son was running mate won't change anything. Buhari is the most incompetent northern leader, many of them are ashamed of him. When he is gone like Ahmadu bello, the north will still play politics, your propaganda nonetheless. Get a proper education. |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by MarrisManah(m): 7:01pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
mrvitalis:Oga stop talking about politics like it's a business of buying and selling cars... It's much more. This is the exact same reason why the Igbo are not getting enough from the federation. All Igbo is saying this and that Everytime.. How many of the Eastern governors and political class are currently gearing up for the office of the president? Instead of putting their houses in order and speaking with one voice, they are busy bringing down some other persons... Even the ones that try to play national politics you criticize them as being slaves to notheners.. Tell me one Igbo man that is seriously vying for the office of the president and have the support of 1/3 of the political class in Igbo land! That should be your concern, not what Yoruba is/is not doing. I hope you understand. |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by mrvitalis(m): 7:05pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
MarrisManah:You guys are funny ? How do you know if they are preparing or not ? You guys just poke nose on other forgetting u are doing same if not worse ... Tell me one thing any Yoruba person has done that an igbo politician hasn't done towards 2023 |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by Unik3030: 7:06pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
LabDNA:so if they are to present an Igbo man n a Yoruba man as presidential candidate,who do I think d northerners will vote? so u think d northerners have forgotten how I called their hero a gworo chewing bastard n how u don't play politics but u hate. with the way u have treated buhari since he became the president n how Nnamdi Kanu embarrassed him n u play along to the extent of d Kaduna declaration,do u think d hausas will vote u? Igbos are d only tribe in d world who will hate I n call u derogatory names only for them to ask for your most prized possession d next minute 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by oyatz(m): 7:29pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
You are talking about a concept that you don't fully understand- ZONING. Let me explain it to you but by bit. 1) Zoning was first suggested as a vehicle for political cohesion in Nigeria by Dr Alex Ekwueme during the formative days of the NPN in 1977-78. 2) The NPN adopted zoning in it's constitution as a winning formula by appealing to ALL sections of Nigeria that they will get shares of the National cake because party and Government positions will be shared and rotated accross board. 3) The PDP borrowed the NPN winning formula called 'Zoning' and incorporated it into it's Constitution. This zoning is not in the Constitution of Nigeria or the Constitution of other parties. 4) In 1999, the PDP zoned it's presidential ticket to the South. ALL Geo-Political zones in the South contested for the ticket but Gen Olusegun Obasanjo clinched it. 5) In 2007, the PDP re-assessed it's zoning formula and rezoned it's presidential ticket to the North. The then Gov Umoru Yar'Adua defeated other contestants to clinched the ticket. 6) In May, 2010, President Yar'Adua died and was succeeded by his deputy, Dr Goodluck Jonathan who contested the 2011 PDP presidential Primaries despite the fact that this action violated the PDP zoning arrangements Most Nigerian voters were sympathetic to his candidacy because he is from a minority tribe and we all stood up for him and he won the elections. 7) In 2015, despite that the PDP hasn't changed it's zoning of the ticket to the North and GEJ had earlier promised to do one term, he contested again but he was defeated at the general election. In 2015, after losing the election, the PDP again zoned it presidential ticket to the North and maintained the same in 2019. 9) In all of these, no region enforced or disregard zoning but individual political parties and politicians did. 10) Asking the Yorubas or any tribe to obey zoning is inappropriate. It's the political parties and NOT tribes that can decide where they will zone their presidential ticket to. 11) The PDP, which ought to be sympathetic to the cause of the Igbo Presidency is opposed to it but rather toying with the idea of still zoning it's ticket to the North in 2023 and this is NOT the fault of the Yorubas. 12) In my personal view, interested Yoruba, Fulani, Nupe, Ebira, Ijaw politicians who nurse presidential ambitions should run in 2023 and damn any consequences. It's better to contest and lose than succumbing to cheap political blackmail by not constisting. In Summary, it is ONLY the political parties that can determine where they will zone their presidential ticket to. mrvitalis: 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by Amumaigwe: 9:07pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
Oshigun: @Bolded; Then you would have woken up from your slumber, hopefully. |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by LabDNA: 9:46pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
Unik3030: Oga, is your skull made of stone? Don't you get my message? There can be no Igbo vs yoruba election situation, there can be no yoruba vs yoruba too. If zoning must be respected it will be Igbo vs Igbo just like it was yoruba vs yoruba in 1999 when they took their share of the zoning formular. If yoruba decides to contest in APC, thereby killing the zoning formular, Hausa and Fulani also has the right to contest, and you'll face them at the polls, specifically on PDP with the SESS region whom you think you can outsmart supporting them strongly Ofcourse we all know how the result will swing. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by AkpaMgbor(m): 10:02pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
mrvitalis:Indeed wisdom is different from knowledge and knowledge is different from intelligence...mrvitalis THIS was my sole reason for voting Jonathan in 2015...we told you and the likes of beremx to see our point for the collective good but you got swayed by the media machinations from the west! It wasn't because Jonathan was all so perfect but that he was a better man(and administrator) than Buhari AND that it was the south's last chance to completely stamp out the stranglehold of the north in power...it was the south's chance of telling the fulani hegemony that they are not born to rule, and that the British didn't hand them Nigeria as their play toy! That was the bigger picture...it was our chance to have equal say in Abuja as southerners..in the ministries and parasatals....in the oil sector and customs...in the army, navy and airforce...to have equal control..I still wonder how learned people(both young and old) from the south couldn't just see this?!! How!?? |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by Unik3030: 10:39pm On Apr 08, 2020 |
LabDNA:can't d Igbos face d Yoruba alone?are they afraid?y are u lumping Se n SS together?can't d Igbos fight alone without any attachment? 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by Adiola(f): 12:23am On Apr 09, 2020 |
mrvitalis:have u forgotten osun state igr is bigger than the whole southeast until breeze blow foul gnash open and we found out the poorest state is actually osun |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by LegendHero(m): 1:31am On Apr 09, 2020 |
AkpaMgbor: @the bolded, what was Jonathan doing during 2011-2015 when the southerners voted him in their majority including southwest? Was he drunk during those 4years that he can’t implement all these beautiful manifesto you laid out here. Why can’t Jonathan give all the southerners equal control in the navy and air force, Abuja and custom, etc during those said period? |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by SharonLoveth(f): 3:56am On Apr 09, 2020 |
FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF AFONJA |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by oyatz(m): 6:31am On Apr 09, 2020 |
Congratulations to you on realizing how democracy works... you have inalienable right to vote for ANY. However you should not question other citizens on who they vote for. Blackfire: |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by AkpaMgbor(m): 6:59am On Apr 09, 2020 |
LegendHero:Oh but he did, albeit gradually. His administration initiated and conducted a national conference for all and sundry including non politicians and professional bodies to work out the creases in this union for the way forward...the endpoint of that exercise? Buhari's government threw it in the trash bin. I know you're from southwest, I know you were part of those who kicked when Jonathan brought in your fellow southerners into government and parasatals, but because they were the 'wrong' southerners, you failed to see the bigger picture too! |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by fulanimafia: 7:04am On Apr 09, 2020 |
Iamgrey5: Lmao no wonder we have a Yoruba emirate in Sokoto. Jokers . |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by Paretomaster1(m): 7:14am On Apr 09, 2020 |
mrvitalis: Unity beggar.. |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by MarrisManah(m): 7:38am On Apr 09, 2020 |
mrvitalis:Anyone critical of Igbo politicians automatically becomes a Yoruba.. anyway, that's not the issue now. 1/3 of Yoruba will gladly support tinubu or whoever he backs come 2023, who do we have in the east that's seriously contemplating to be the head of state and enjoys such support from us..? That should bother any well meaning Igbo man/woman. All the governors are after is going to the Senate to continue siphoning public funds for themselves and cronies. This is time for negotiations, lobbying and compromise not when we're in 2022, you'll see them running from Piller to posts looking for who to blame. As for doing something, my brother, NON OF THEM is doing anything. If they were, we'll be aware. |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by mrvitalis(m): 7:45am On Apr 09, 2020 |
MarrisManah:Umiah ,Peter obi , soludo ,chidoka ,who ever decide to contest would get over 80% support from igbos ...at least 60% from South south And surely 25% from South West can u say the same for tinubu ? There is no politician in South West that's a match for Peter obi or umiah ... absolutely no in terms of performance none Who told u they are not negotiating ? Must they expose their strategy for u to know they are working ? |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by tysontim(m): 8:05am On Apr 09, 2020 |
If igbos don't get it Yorubas won't get it going by the zoning |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by MarrisManah(m): 8:15am On Apr 09, 2020 |
mrvitalis:The people you listed are laughable, reason is non of them have enough appeal outside the Eastern Nigeria! Chidoka and Soludo are way too off the mark- I hope you don't argue this. As for Obi and Umahi, both are pdp... How can they match tinubu(or whoever he's fronting) in terms of nothern votes...? See, politics is not a straight path, you've got to want it to a point it's practically impossible to deny you. I expected Umahi to be a full-time member of Apc by now if indeed he's serious! All the political structures in Ebonyi and Imo should be dominated by the Apc... That's what it means to actually want it bro! Now this is the bombshell- if the Yoruba secures 2023 Apc presidential ticket, Igbos should forget winning with pdp as it's practically and politically impossible! There best bet in pdp will be supporting a northerner, with the hope of getting it by 2032. Yes, politics is that serious even though it sounds funny! In all sincerity (I hope I'm wrong) Igbos are not prepared to be president come 2023. The only high ranking igbo politician in Apc with a lot of appeal in the north has been caged, at least for now- Orji Uzo Kalu. And his brethren are foolishly celebrating.. |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by mrvitalis(m): 8:24am On Apr 09, 2020 |
MarrisManah:PDP is penetrating the north .... PDP would get 40% or more in states like sokoto ,bauchi , zamfara , kaduna and largely Kano and this is largely north west ... without buhari on the ballot ...turn out would drop ...umiah is loved by the north ,.....with a North West vice ....Peter obi or umiah are sure of 35% to 45% of North west votes North east , with it Christian population n PDP strength , PDP can easily get 4O% North Central is going to be shared South south 75% PDP ,and revenge for 2015 South west ...igbos would get 30% no doubt ...we would be ready in Lagos ... violence for violence , blood for blood South east ...98% PDP you self know The maths is simple ....u won't get block vote from the north like PMB simple |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 9:01am On Apr 09, 2020 |
UdechiHD:Stop presenting your primary school sort of analysis,simply go and check the info on generated revenues.The bokoharam ravaged NE is the only region were you generate more than.Ogun state alone is more than the entire SE combined. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by MarrisManah(m): 9:12am On Apr 09, 2020 |
mrvitalis:When you quote abitrary percentages without statistical back up, it's just so amusing. 98% of South east is less/equa to 98% in Kano. Anyways, k'oréé dika isi kwuo... Adios! |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by mrvitalis(m): 9:29am On Apr 09, 2020 |
MarrisManah:Lol ask anyone here my presidential election calculation have never been wrong .... Vote turn out in the east have been low since 2015 ...if north is not contesting same thing is bound to happen There is absolutely no way APC can get more than 60% in Kano without buhari or a northerner on that sit Peter obi would finish anyone from the West in a debate ...your media won't even save u |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by LivingSage: 9:34am On Apr 09, 2020 |
Rule that out, Igbos has NEVER voted Yorubas in history of our politics, they've always been Hausa Ally. You voted Obj in 1999 AGAINST Yoruba wish of Olu Falae, so what are you saying mrvitalis: |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by DEROX: 9:41am On Apr 09, 2020 |
LabDNA:Guy don't be afraid naa deep down you know Yoruba will defeat Igbo in presidential election if they both contest so no vex every tribe hates you |
Re: The Igbos And Yorubas Should Live With This Truth: by mrvitalis(m): 10:43am On Apr 09, 2020 |
LivingSage:Which Igbo have u voted against igbo wish ? 1 Like |
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